Chickenhawks on Parade

[Sandman]

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html

[Arny Krueger]

"Sandman" > wrote in message



> http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html

Ironic that Sanders previously said:

Message-ID: >

" I happen to hail from a generation that led me to become very involved in
.... the anti-Vietnam War movement of the 60's and 70's, and my politics back
then were far to the left of Maxine Waters."

IOW Sanders wasn't exactly breaking down doors to join the Army during the
Vietnam era, either. FWIW I served in the Army during the Vietnam era.

[Robert Morein]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
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> "Sandman" > wrote in message
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> > http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html
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> Ironic that Sanders previously said:
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> Message-ID: >
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> " I happen to hail from a generation that led me to become very involved
in
> ... the anti-Vietnam War movement of the 60's and 70's, and my politics
back
> then were far to the left of Maxine Waters."
>
> IOW Sanders wasn't exactly breaking down doors to join the Army during the
> Vietnam era, either. FWIW I served in the Army during the Vietnam era.
>
Now I understand!
Your job must have been maintaining the company's Zenith Trans Oceanics
radios.

But I don't understand how it turned you into a ***BAD SCIENTIST***
or why the stress would cause you to flip out and accuse Scott Wheeler of
being a rapist.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Sandman" > wrote in message
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Interesting they use RED for their pages.

Not so interesting is that their premise is false. If the airwaves have
been taken over by the right wingers, it's only because they get an
audience. Without one their would be no right wing talk shows.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
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> "Sandman" > wrote in message
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> > http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html
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> Ironic that Sanders previously said:
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> Message-ID: >
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> " I happen to hail from a generation that led me to become very involved
in
> ... the anti-Vietnam War movement of the 60's and 70's, and my politics
back
> then were far to the left of Maxine Waters."
>
And he has no shame over that? Perhaps he's not aware that Maxine Waters is
INSANE.

> IOW Sanders wasn't exactly breaking down doors to join the Army during the
> Vietnam era, either. FWIW I served in the Army during the Vietnam era.
>
>

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Robert Morein" > wrote in message
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> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
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> > "Sandman" > wrote in message
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> > > http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html
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> > Ironic that Sanders previously said:
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> >
> > " I happen to hail from a generation that led me to become very involved
> in
> > ... the anti-Vietnam War movement of the 60's and 70's, and my politics
> back
> > then were far to the left of Maxine Waters."
> >
> > IOW Sanders wasn't exactly breaking down doors to join the Army during
the
> > Vietnam era, either. FWIW I served in the Army during the Vietnam era.
> >
> Now I understand!
> Your job must have been maintaining the company's Zenith Trans Oceanics
> radios.
>
> But I don't understand how it turned you into a ***BAD SCIENTIST***

How did you into a non-scientist?

> or why the stress would cause you to flip out and accuse Scott Wheeler of
> being a rapist.
>
>
What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.

Is it that you have no scientific crediblity at all that makes you repeat
the same lie?

How big was that telescope?

[Sandman]

Bugeater chokes on his diet of Rupert Murdock/Rush Limbaugh pabulum:

"Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
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> "Sandman" > wrote in message
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> > http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html
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> >
> Interesting they use RED for their pages.
>
> Not so interesting is that their premise is false. If the airwaves have
> been taken over by the right wingers, it's only because they get an
> audience. Without one their would be no right wing talk shows.
>
>

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Sandman" > wrote in message
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> Bugeater chokes on his diet of Rupert Murdock/Rush Limbaugh pabulum:
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I notice you don't deny what I said. Without an audience, right wing talk
shows would be gone in a heartbeat.

> "Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
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> > "Sandman" > wrote in message
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> > > http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html
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> > >
> > Interesting they use RED for their pages.
> >
> > Not so interesting is that their premise is false. If the airwaves have
> > been taken over by the right wingers, it's only because they get an
> > audience. Without one their would be no right wing talk shows.
> >
> >
>
>

[Arny Krueger]

"Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message


> "Sandman" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Bugeater chokes on his diet of Rupert Murdock/Rush Limbaugh pabulum:

> I notice you don't deny what I said. Without an audience, right wing
> talk shows would be gone in a heartbeat.

Enough of that free market talk!

In Sanders' ideal managed marketplace, people would be made to listen to
what he thinks is good for them! If it was good enough for Joseph Stalin,
it's good enough for Sanders and people of his mindset.

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>Perhaps he's not aware that Maxine Waters is
>INSANE.
>

And yet she wins her elections by getting as much as 85% of the vote. I guess
all of her constituents must be insane, too.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.

The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in the sand,
wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on audio, as
opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.

You really should wake the **** up one day.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
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> McKelvy said:
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> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.

> The fact that he really did do them,

Where's your proof that I'm a pedophile, Phillips?

There isn't any.

In contrast the google record RAO is covered with proof of your pedophile
fantasies.


> and you're hiding your head in the sand,
> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on audio,
as
> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.

Phillips, how could anything be more disgusting than your lengthy history
of lying, dissembling, deceiving, and libeling?

> You really should wake the **** up one day.


See what I mean?

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
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>> McKelvy said:
>>
>> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.
>
>> The fact that he really did do them,
>
>Where's your proof that I'm a pedophile, Phillips?
>
>There isn't any.
>
>In contrast the google record RAO is covered with proof of your pedophile
>fantasies.
>
>
>> and you're hiding your head in the sand,
>> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on audio,
>as
>> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>
>Phillips, how could anything be more disgusting than your lengthy history
>of lying, dissembling, deceiving, and libeling?
>
>> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>
>
>See what I mean?

No, I don't see what you mean. That's because you are a proven pathological
liar, and your complete dissolution into your own fantasy world isn't
understandable to normal human beings.

You keep saying that I lie, dissemble, deceive and libel, yet NOT ONCE have you
backed this up with any evidence. We've been over this many, many times
before, and you've failed every time. Actually, you run and hide, because you
are the biggest pussy in the history of Usenet.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Arny said:
>
>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> McKelvy said:
>>>
>>>> What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
>>>> untrue.
>>
>>> The fact that he really did do them,
>>
>> Where's your proof that I'm a pedophile, Phillips?
>>
>> There isn't any.
>>
>> In contrast the google record RAO is covered with proof of your
>> pedophile fantasies.
>>
>>
>>> and you're hiding your head in the sand,
>>> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
>>> audio,
>> as
>>> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>>
>> Phillips, how could anything be more disgusting than your lengthy
>> history of lying, dissembling, deceiving, and libeling?
>>
>>> You really should wake the **** up one day.

>> See what I mean?

> No, I don't see what you mean.

Inability to perceive your own reprehensible behavior noted, Phillips.

>That's because you are a proven pathological liar,

Where's that proof, Phillips?

> and your complete dissolution into your own
> fantasy world isn't understandable to normal human beings.

Letsee, and the world in which you live where I'm a

From: (Marc Phillips)
Message-ID:

"...proven pedophile..."

to quote you Phillips, isn't a fantasy world?

If it isn't a fantasy world Phillips, prove that I'm a pedphile.

> You keep saying that I lie, dissemble, deceive and libel, yet NOT
> ONCE have you backed this up with any evidence.

Just prove that I'm a pedophile, Phillips. That requires a criminal
conviction in a court of law, so you should be able to give us a time, date
and court where that happened. Failing that, it would be you Marc Phillips
who live in a fantasy world.

> We've been over this
> many, many times before, and you've failed every time.

Just prove, here and now that I'm a convicted pedophile, Marc Phillips. I
you fail to do that, then it is you that lives in a fantasy world.

> Actually, you run and hide, because you are the biggest pussy in the
history of Usenet.

Prove that too Philips. I believe that a statement from a gynecologist will
do.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
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> McKelvy said:
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> >Perhaps he's not aware that Maxine Waters is
> >INSANE.
> >
>
> And yet she wins her elections by getting as much as 85% of the vote. I
guess
> all of her constituents must be insane, too.
>

She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite' for
another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that district.




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[Marc Phillips]

Yustabe said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
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>> McKelvy said:
>>
>> >Perhaps he's not aware that Maxine Waters is
>> >INSANE.
>> >
>>
>> And yet she wins her elections by getting as much as 85% of the vote. I
>guess
>> all of her constituents must be insane, too.
>>
>
>She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite' for
>another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that district.

I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling her
"insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she does her job
and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she belongs to.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Arny said:
>>
>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>
>>>>> What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
>>>>> untrue.
>>>
>>>> The fact that he really did do them,
>>>
>>> Where's your proof that I'm a pedophile, Phillips?
>>>
>>> There isn't any.
>>>
>>> In contrast the google record RAO is covered with proof of your
>>> pedophile fantasies.
>>>
>>>
>>>> and you're hiding your head in the sand,
>>>> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
>>>> audio,
>>> as
>>>> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>>>
>>> Phillips, how could anything be more disgusting than your lengthy
>>> history of lying, dissembling, deceiving, and libeling?
>>>
>>>> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>
>>> See what I mean?
>
>> No, I don't see what you mean.
>
>Inability to perceive your own reprehensible behavior noted, Phillips.

Noted, in fact, from a known pathological liar, hypocrite and pedophile. In
other words, your comment is meaningless, other than once again showing your
shortcomings when it comes to communicating in English.

>>That's because you are a proven pathological liar,
>
>Where's that proof, Phillips?

I've proved it many, many times before. It doesn't matter if I do it once
more, because you'll simply deny it. You are incapable of admitting when
you're wrong, and you've never admitted to a lie, even when the evidence is
overwhelming. That is because you are mentally ill.

But once again I can prove that you're a liar by merely mentioning all of the
times you've called me a liar and have been unable to prove it.

>
>> and your complete dissolution into your own
>> fantasy world isn't understandable to normal human beings.
>
>Letsee, and the world in which you live where I'm a
>
>From: (Marc Phillips)
>Message-ID:
>
>"...proven pedophile..."
>
>to quote you Phillips, isn't a fantasy world?

No, it isn't. Describing the act of fondling your dead teenaged son in his
coffin to a bunch of strangers on the Internet, something that is factual,
qualifies you as a pedophile.

>
>If it isn't a fantasy world Phillips, prove that I'm a pedphile.

I just did.

>
>> You keep saying that I lie, dissemble, deceive and libel, yet NOT
>> ONCE have you backed this up with any evidence.
>
>Just prove that I'm a pedophile, Phillips.

I just did.

That requires a criminal
>conviction in a court of law, so you should be able to give us a time, date
>and court where that happened.

Wrong. What you are describing is a "convicted" pedophile. What you are
basically saying is that one cannot be pedophile unless they have been arrested
and convicted. That is incorrect.

Failing that, it would be you Marc Phillips
>who live in a fantasy world.

Good thing I succeeded.

>> We've been over this
>> many, many times before, and you've failed every time.
>
>Just prove, here and now that I'm a convicted pedophile, Marc Phillips. I
>you fail to do that, then it is you that lives in a fantasy world.

I just did.

>> Actually, you run and hide, because you are the biggest pussy in the
>history of Usenet.
>
>Prove that too Philips. I believe that a statement from a gynecologist will
>do.
>>

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
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> Yustabe said:
>
> >
> >She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite' for
> >another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
district.
>
> I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling her
> "insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she does
her job
> and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she belongs
to.
>

What matters is the lack of choice.




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[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
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> McKelvy said:
>
> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.
>
> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in the
sand,
> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on audio,
as
> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>
> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>
> Boon

You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
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>> McKelvy said:
>>
>> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.
>>
>> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in the
>sand,
>> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on audio,
>as
>> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>>
>> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>>
>> Boon
>
>You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.

It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the record. I
didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.

You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known pedophile for his
views on audio.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Yustabe said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> Yustabe said:
>>
>> >
>> >She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite' for
>> >another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
>district.
>>
>> I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling her
>> "insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she does
>her job
>> and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she belongs
>to.
>>
>
>What matters is the lack of choice.

True, although I think that if Maxine Waters was truly insane, there'd be a
choice in a heartbeat. Even Ted Kennedy came close to losing his last
election.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>>> Actually, you run and hide, because you are the biggest pussy in the
>>history of Usenet.
>>
>>Prove that too Philips. I believe that a statement from a gynecologist will
>>do.

Let's look at a statement you made last week, and see who's really living in a
fantasy world:

"Hey Marc, I'm not the one with a history of failed marriages, you are. BTW
Marc, did your first wife divorce you when she found out that you are
bisexual or was it all the pedophile fantasies that drove her away? Or, was
it your inability to perform the responsibilities of a husband due to fat
rolls getting in the way?"

This, of course, is your fantasy of who I am, an image you've been obsessing
over for quite some time. In the real world, I am not bisexual, I do not have
pedophile fantasies, nor am I too fat to have sex. I'm five-foot-ten, and I
weigh under 200 pounds. My wife did not divorce me...I divorced her. I could
nitpick and say that "failed marriages" is also a fantasy statement, since it
was a singular event, and that kind of minor detail is the sort of thing you
base an entire argument upon.

In that same post you also boast about hiking, something you only do once a
year or so. That's less physical activity than I do on any given week.
However, you chose to employ your fantasy view of me, where I am "morbidly
obese," and unable to climb up a ladder. That makes you feel better about
spending your life sitting on your ass, playing on the computer. You also made
a rather ignorant comment about the medicine I took that slowed down my
metabolism, that no doctor would give such medicine to an overweight
person...in other words, your fantasy of me. In the real world, I weighed 175
pounds when they put me on the medication. When I gained weight, I complained
to the doctor, and he downplayed it. I wound up firing him and going to
another doctor, who immediately took me off the meds. The weight came back
off.

Now, the only thing people like you and Richard Malesweski have to go on is a
single picture of me taken at my heaviest weight. You two have obsessed over
this picture, because both of you need to find a reason to hate me. You need
to turn me into someone you can hate. That makes you both feel better for
being the failures in life that you are. Like I've said before, the rift here
in RAO has nothing to do with objective v. subjective listening, or LPs v. CDs,
or tube v. solid-state...it's about the Haves v. the Have-Nots. Audiophiles in
general are well-heeled, and that angers people like you and Malesweski.
That's why you have to demonize us and have fantasies about the kind of people
you want us to be, as opposed to the people we really are. Nowhere is this
more evident than in your crusade against John Atkinson, a gentleman if there
ever was one.

The truth is, Arny, I continually attack you for your pedophilia because I want
you to go away. You pollute this place. Many here disagree with me and want
you to stay around because beating up on you is stress relief. You are truly
RAO's clown to them, just as Howard used to be. You, however, sicken me. If
it weren't for you, I would never have had to hear about some sick Internet
geek who made up some e-mails about fondling his dead teenaged son in his
coffin, only to try to disparage some good people who didn't conform to his
fantasies of them.

Stop fantasizing about me, you sick ****.

Boon

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Yustabe said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Yustabe said:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite'
for
> >> >another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
> >district.
> >>
> >> I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling her
> >> "insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she does
> >her job
> >> and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she belongs
> >to.
> >>
> >
> >What matters is the lack of choice.
>
> True, although I think that if Maxine Waters was truly insane, there'd be
a
> choice in a heartbeat. Even Ted Kennedy came close to losing his last
> election.
>

Let's just say she is irrational and erratic.




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[Marc Phillips]

Yustabe said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> Yustabe said:
>>
>> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Yustabe said:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite'
>for
>> >> >another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
>> >district.
>> >>
>> >> I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling her
>> >> "insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she does
>> >her job
>> >> and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she belongs
>> >to.
>> >>
>> >
>> >What matters is the lack of choice.
>>
>> True, although I think that if Maxine Waters was truly insane, there'd be
>a
>> choice in a heartbeat. Even Ted Kennedy came close to losing his last
>> election.
>>
>
>Let's just say she is irrational and erratic.

She certainly was during Clinton's impeachment.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Arny said:
>
>>>> Actually, you run and hide, because you are the biggest pussy in
>>>> the history of Usenet.
>>>
>>> Prove that too Philips. I believe that a statement from a
>>> gynecologist will do.

> Let's look at a statement you made last week, and see who's really
> living in a fantasy world:

> "Hey Marc, I'm not the one with a history of failed marriages, you
> are. BTW Marc, did your first wife divorce you when she found out
> that you are bisexual or was it all the pedophile fantasies that
> drove her away? Or, was it your inability to perform the
> responsibilities of a husband due to fat rolls getting in the way?"

Aha, the long-awaited (this post was made 9 days ago) reply.

> This, of course, is your fantasy of who I am, an image you've been
> obsessing over for quite some time.

Not at all. Very much spur of the moment.

>In the real world, I am not bisexual,

Prove it.

> I do not have pedophile fantasies,

That you have pedophile fantasies is a proven fact, Marc.

> nor am I too fat to have sex.

Maybe you had liposuction.

>I'm five-foot-ten, and I weigh under 200 pounds.

With or without high heels on?

> My wife did not divorce me...I divorced her.

Prove it. That's a legal fact that could actually be proven.

> I could nitpick and say that
> "failed marriages" is also a fantasy statement, since it was a
> singular event, and that kind of minor detail is the sort of thing
> you base an entire argument upon.

Look Marc, you're obviously a very unhappy person with very poor
relationships with the people around you. You live in a world of delusions
and fantasies as demonstrated by your many hateful posts about me on RAO.

Well Marc the only claim we have any evidence of shows you at well over 200
pounds. So I guess that means we can dismiss the rest of your claims as
well.

> In that same post you also boast about hiking, something you only do
> once a year or so.

That would be a fantasy of yours, Phillips.

> That's less physical activity than I do on any given week.

That would be an unsupported claim from a proven liar.

>However, you chose to employ your fantasy view of me,
> where I am "morbidly obese," and unable to climb up a ladder. That
> makes you feel better about spending your life sitting on your ass,
> playing on the computer.

Not at all Marc. That I spend my life sitting in front of a computer is a
fantasy that you have.

> You also made a rather ignorant comment
> about the medicine I took that slowed down my metabolism, that no
> doctor would give such medicine to an overweight person...in other
> words, your fantasy of me.

That would be a fantasy of yours.

> In the real world, I weighed 175 pounds
> when they put me on the medication. When I gained weight, I
> complained to the doctor, and he downplayed it. I wound up firing
> him and going to another doctor, who immediately took me off the
> meds. The weight came back off.

That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9 days to
come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would have come up with
it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9 days to come up with all
these lies.

> Now, the only thing people like you and Richard Malesweski have to go
> on is a single picture of me taken at my heaviest weight. You two
> have obsessed over this picture, because both of you need to find a
> reason to hate me.

Not at all, Marc. First off I don't know who this Malesweski person is,
except that you obsess over him a lot. So, I have no idea if he even exists
or what his state of mind is. Secondly, my attitude towards you is based on
your despicable behavior, not your weight.

> You need to turn me into someone you can hate.

You did a fine job of that all by yourself, Marc.

For example, here are all the posts where you called me a "proven" (i.e.,
convicted) pedophile"

http://www.google.com/groups?as_q=proven%20pedophile&as_uauthors=marc%20phil
lips

There appear to be over 20 instances of this since September 23, 2003 -
about one every three days. Talk about an obsession with me and with
pedophilia!

> That makes you both feel better for being the failures in life that you
are.

Except that I'm not a failure, Marc.

> Like I've said before, the rift here in RAO has nothing to
> do with objective vs.. subjective listening, or LPs vs.. CDs, or tube vs..
> solid-state...it's about the Haves vs.. the Have-Nots.

Speaking as one of the "haves", I just don't know what you are talking about
Marc. Is this one of your fantasies, too?

> Audiophiles in
> general are well-heeled, and that angers people like you and
> Malesweski.

Why can't I consider myself a well-heeled audiophile? Isn't my ownership of
maybe $10,000 or more worth of conventional audio gear enough to qualify me?
(Leaving out my extensive collection of sound cards which seems to irritate
you no end). What about the thousands of dollars worth of recording
equipment and audio test equipment that I own? You're fantasizing again,
Marc.

> That's why you have to demonize us and have fantasies
> about the kind of people you want us to be, as opposed to the people
> we really are. Nowhere is this more evident than in your crusade
> against John Atkinson, a gentleman if there ever was one.

I find it interesting how cheaply small time thugs like you can be
purchased, Marc. One free lunch, and you're signed, sealed and delivered.

> The truth is, Arny, I continually attack you for your pedophilia
> because I want you to go away. You pollute this place. Many here
> disagree with me and want you to stay around because beating up on
> you is stress relief.

As if this is one-sided, Marc. Look, I recently nailed you so hard that it
took you 9 days to make up enough lies to present a reply! LOL!

The fact is that people like you and sockpuppets Yustabe and Wheel are so
embarassed about their lives and their behavior here that you are afraid to
reveal anything true about yourselves.

>You are truly RAO's clown to them, just as
> Howard used to be. You, however, sicken me. If it weren't for you,
> I would never have had to hear about some sick Internet geek who made
> up some e-mails about fondling his dead teenaged son in his coffin,
> only to try to disparage some good people who didn't conform to his
> fantasies of them.

Sorry Marc, but the likely perpetrator of those emails is not me, but
probably you or someone known to you. Anybody who reads your filthy-mouthed
posts can see that you're a person with very poor morals and a filthy mouth.

> Stop fantasizing about me, you sick ****.

Did I say filthy mouth? Case proven and closed!

[dave weil]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9 days to
>come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would have come up with
>it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9 days to come up with all
>these lies.

Logic According To Arnold.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
>
> Look Marc, you're obviously a very unhappy person with very poor
> relationships with the people around you. You live in a world of delusions
> and fantasies as demonstrated by your many hateful posts about me on RAO.
>

My favorite fantasy about you is the one where you hand over a check for
$25,000 to Mr. Wheeler. Maybe some day, my dreams can come true.




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[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Arny said:
>>
>>>>> Actually, you run and hide, because you are the biggest pussy in
>>>>> the history of Usenet.
>>>>
>>>> Prove that too Philips. I believe that a statement from a
>>>> gynecologist will do.
>
>> Let's look at a statement you made last week, and see who's really
>> living in a fantasy world:
>
>> "Hey Marc, I'm not the one with a history of failed marriages, you
>> are. BTW Marc, did your first wife divorce you when she found out
>> that you are bisexual or was it all the pedophile fantasies that
>> drove her away? Or, was it your inability to perform the
>> responsibilities of a husband due to fat rolls getting in the way?"
>
>Aha, the long-awaited (this post was made 9 days ago) reply.

Long-awaited by whom? Obviously a single Internet geek whose life is spent in
front of the computer, waiting for people to acknowledge him since he is
insignificant in the real world. BTW, I did respond to the post before now.

>
>> This, of course, is your fantasy of who I am, an image you've been
>> obsessing over for quite some time.
>
>Not at all. Very much spur of the moment.

Nope. You've been saying the same things for quite some time.

>>In the real world, I am not bisexual,
>
>Prove it.

No. You have to take my word for it. The whole "prove it" thing is
excessively weak and shows that you would rather hold on to your fantasies as
opposed to listening to what people tell you.

>
>> I do not have pedophile fantasies,
>
>That you have pedophile fantasies is a proven fact, Marc.

Not, it's not. You think that because I object to your presence here because
you're a pedophile, that I have pedophile fantasies. You couldn't possibly
sound more stupid or desperate to shed your image as a child pornographer.

>
>> nor am I too fat to have sex.
>
>Maybe you had liposuction.

Again, your fantasy.

>
>>I'm five-foot-ten, and I weigh under 200 pounds.
>
>With or without high heels on?

Again, your fantasy.

>
>> My wife did not divorce me...I divorced her.
>
>Prove it. That's a legal fact that could actually be proven.

Oh, I can prove it. I have the paperwork and everything. Will I prove it to
an Internet geek who is known for being a liar, hypocrite, and pedophile? Why
should I? What kind of credibility do you have?

>
>> I could nitpick and say that
>> "failed marriages" is also a fantasy statement, since it was a
>> singular event, and that kind of minor detail is the sort of thing
>> you base an entire argument upon.
>
>Look Marc, you're obviously a very unhappy person with very poor
>relationships with the people around you.

Again, your fantasy.

You live in a world of delusions
>and fantasies as demonstrated by your many hateful posts about me on RAO.

Again, your fantasy.

>
>Well Marc the only claim we have any evidence of shows you at well over 200
>pounds. So I guess that means we can dismiss the rest of your claims as
>well.

Again, your fantasy.

>
>> In that same post you also boast about hiking, something you only do
>> once a year or so.
>
>That would be a fantasy of yours, Phillips.

Nope. That would be based upon the number of times you mention it here.
That's usually only once a year, when you go on your annual vacation. If you
now magically and conveniently hike more than that, I'm sure you'll mention it
now.

>
>> That's less physical activity than I do on any given week.
>
>That would be an unsupported claim from a proven liar.

Again, your fantasy.

>
>>However, you chose to employ your fantasy view of me,
>> where I am "morbidly obese," and unable to climb up a ladder. That
>> makes you feel better about spending your life sitting on your ass,
>> playing on the computer.
>
>Not at all Marc. That I spend my life sitting in front of a computer is a
>fantasy that you have.

No, it's supported by the number of posts you make.

>
>> You also made a rather ignorant comment
>> about the medicine I took that slowed down my metabolism, that no
>> doctor would give such medicine to an overweight person...in other
>> words, your fantasy of me.
>
>That would be a fantasy of yours.

No, it would be a fantasy of yours.

>
>> In the real world, I weighed 175 pounds
>> when they put me on the medication. When I gained weight, I
>> complained to the doctor, and he downplayed it. I wound up firing
>> him and going to another doctor, who immediately took me off the
>> meds. The weight came back off.
>
>That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9 days to
>come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would have come up with
>it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9 days to come up with all
>these lies.
>

That would be a fantasy of yours. I did respond to your post earlier.

>> Now, the only thing people like you and Richard Malesweski have to go
>> on is a single picture of me taken at my heaviest weight. You two
>> have obsessed over this picture, because both of you need to find a
>> reason to hate me.
>
>Not at all, Marc. First off I don't know who this Malesweski person is,
>except that you obsess over him a lot.

No, he obsesses over me a lot. Aren't you paying attention, or is this another
fantasy of yours?

So, I have no idea if he even exists
>or what his state of mind is.

I'm not asking you to be responsible for his behavior. You two merely think
the same way.

Secondly, my attitude towards you is based on
>your despicable behavior, not your weight.
>
>> You need to turn me into someone you can hate.
>
>You did a fine job of that all by yourself, Marc.

Nope. As with the evidence of your pedophilia, I didn't make these claims.
I'm just reacting to them.

>
>For example, here are all the posts where you called me a "proven" (i.e.,
>convicted) pedophile"
>
>http://www.google.com/groups?as_q=proven%20pedophile&as_uauthors=marc%20phil
>lips
>
>There appear to be over 20 instances of this since September 23, 2003 -
>about one every three days. Talk about an obsession with me and with
>pedophilia!

If I'm obsessed, it's with getting a disgusting pedophile such as you off of
this newgroup. Only in your fantasy world would you equate this with an
obsession with child pornography.


>
>> That makes you both feel better for being the failures in life that you
>are.
>
>Except that I'm not a failure, Marc.

Prove it!

>
>> Like I've said before, the rift here in RAO has nothing to
>> do with objective vs.. subjective listening, or LPs vs.. CDs, or tube vs..
>> solid-state...it's about the Haves vs.. the Have-Nots.
>
>Speaking as one of the "haves", I just don't know what you are talking about
>Marc. Is this one of your fantasies, too?

People who "have" lead productive lives, instead of living their lives in front
of the computer.

>
>> Audiophiles in
>> general are well-heeled, and that angers people like you and
>> Malesweski.
>
>Why can't I consider myself a well-heeled audiophile? Isn't my ownership of
>maybe $10,000 or more worth of conventional audio gear enough to qualify me?

You have a bunch of crap laying around in your basement. That doesn't qualify.
Neither does a specific dollar amount.

>(Leaving out my extensive collection of sound cards which seems to irritate
>you no end). What about the thousands of dollars worth of recording
>equipment and audio test equipment that I own? You're fantasizing again,
>Marc.
>

Again, that has nothing to do with being a well-heeled audiophile. It's about
having a taste for the finer things in life. It's not about affixing a price
tag to everything that you own.

>> That's why you have to demonize us and have fantasies
>> about the kind of people you want us to be, as opposed to the people
>> we really are. Nowhere is this more evident than in your crusade
>> against John Atkinson, a gentleman if there ever was one.
>
>I find it interesting how cheaply small time thugs like you can be
>purchased, Marc. One free lunch, and you're signed, sealed and delivered.

I have no idea what you're talking about here. I suppose that it's because
your fantasies are becoming less and less attached to reality.

>
>> The truth is, Arny, I continually attack you for your pedophilia
>> because I want you to go away. You pollute this place. Many here
>> disagree with me and want you to stay around because beating up on
>> you is stress relief.
>
>As if this is one-sided, Marc. Look, I recently nailed you so hard that it
>took you 9 days to make up enough lies to present a reply! LOL!


Again, I replied, almost immediately.

>
>The fact is that people like you and sockpuppets Yustabe and Wheel are so
>embarassed about their lives and their behavior here that you are afraid to
>reveal anything true about yourselves.

Again, your fantasy. I've revealed plenty about my life here, probably too
much.

>
>>You are truly RAO's clown to them, just as
>> Howard used to be. You, however, sicken me. If it weren't for you,
>> I would never have had to hear about some sick Internet geek who made
>> up some e-mails about fondling his dead teenaged son in his coffin,
>> only to try to disparage some good people who didn't conform to his
>> fantasies of them.
>
>Sorry Marc, but the likely perpetrator of those emails is not me, but
>probably you or someone known to you.

It was proven otherwise.

Anybody who reads your filthy-mouthed
>posts can see that you're a person with very poor morals and a filthy mouth.

Again, your fantasy. I'm surprised how scared you are of simple words, too.

>
>> Stop fantasizing about me, you sick ****.
>
>Did I say filthy mouth? Case proven and closed!

So you think that calling you a sick **** is worse than talking about fondling
your dead teenaged son in his coffin? That figures.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

dave said:

>On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
>wrote:
>
>>That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9 days to
>>come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would have come up with
>>it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9 days to come up with all
>>these lies.
>
>Logic According To Arnold.

Not to mention that I did respond almost immediately.

Boon

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> McKelvy said:
> >>
> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
untrue.
> >>
> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in the
> >sand,
> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
audio,
> >as
> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
> >>
> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
> >>
> >> Boon
> >
> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
>
> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the record.
I
> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
>
> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known pedophile for
his
> views on audio.
>
> Boon

But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless stream of
lies.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >Perhaps he's not aware that Maxine Waters is
> >INSANE.
> >
>
> And yet she wins her elections by getting as much as 85% of the vote. I
guess
> all of her constituents must be insane, too.
>
> Boon
>
>
Well, you do have to be a liar a fool, or someomone wanting to feed at the
government trough to keep someone like her in office.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Yustabe said:
> >
> > >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> Yustabe said:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite'
> for
> > >> >another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
> > >district.
> > >>
> > >> I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling
her
> > >> "insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she
does
> > >her job
> > >> and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she
belongs
> > >to.
> > >>
> > >
> > >What matters is the lack of choice.
> >
> > True, although I think that if Maxine Waters was truly insane, there'd
be
> a
> > choice in a heartbeat. Even Ted Kennedy came close to losing his last
> > election.
> >
>
> Let's just say she is irrational and erratic.
>
IOW, insane. You'd probably get along well with her.
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[Arny Krueger]

"dave weil" > wrote in message

> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>> That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9
>> days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
>> have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
>> days to come up with all these lies.
>
> Logic According To Arnold.

Not only that, but it's taken Phillips about 20 months to come up with this
lame excuse about his obesity being due to medication.

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> dave said:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you
>>> 9 days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
>>> have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
>>> days to come up with all these lies.
>>
>> Logic According To Arnold.
>
> Not to mention that I did respond almost immediately.

Not with this pile of crap, Phillips. It took you 9 days to make up all
these fairy tales. It took you 20 months to come up with the fairy tale
about your obesity. In contrast, it takes almost no time to tell the truth.
You should try it some time.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Yustabe said:
> > >
> > > >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >> Yustabe said:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not
'polite'
> > for
> > > >> >another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
> > > >district.
> > > >>
> > > >> I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling
> her
> > > >> "insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she
> does
> > > >her job
> > > >> and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she
> belongs
> > > >to.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >What matters is the lack of choice.
> > >
> > > True, although I think that if Maxine Waters was truly insane, there'd
> be
> > a
> > > choice in a heartbeat. Even Ted Kennedy came close to losing his last
> > > election.
> > >
> >
> > Let's just say she is irrational and erratic.
> >
> IOW, insane. You'd probably get along well with her.


Irrational and erratic is not necesarily insane. The insane ones
like you and Arny are irrational and predictable.




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[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"dave weil" > wrote in message

>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9
>>> days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
>>> have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
>>> days to come up with all these lies.
>>
>> Logic According To Arnold.
>
>Not only that, but it's taken Phillips about 20 months to come up with this
>lame excuse about his obesity being due to medication.

Wrong. I've mentioned it several times.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> dave said:
>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you
>>>> 9 days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
>>>> have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
>>>> days to come up with all these lies.
>>>
>>> Logic According To Arnold.
>>
>> Not to mention that I did respond almost immediately.
>
>Not with this pile of crap, Phillips. It took you 9 days to make up all
>these fairy tales. It took you 20 months to come up with the fairy tale
>about your obesity. In contrast, it takes almost no time to tell the truth.
>You should try it some time.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> McKelvy said:
>>
>> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> McKelvy said:
>> >>
>> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
>untrue.
>> >>
>> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in the
>> >sand,
>> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
>audio,
>> >as
>> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>> >>
>> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>> >>
>> >> Boon
>> >
>> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
>>
>> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the record.
>I
>> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
>>
>> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known pedophile for
>his
>> views on audio.
>>
>> Boon
>
>But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless stream of
>lies.

If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with Arny's
sickness, then so be it.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>It took you 20 months to come up with the fairy tale
>>about your obesity.

Oh, look at this, from October 9, 2002:

"I did. You see, when that picture was taken, Bill, I was on a medication for
diabetes (Glyburide) that is famous for not only making someone gain weight and
slowing their metabolism, but also raising their cholesterol. My doctor seemed
rather unresponsive to my concerns, even when I told him about mood swings and
periods of depression, which are other side effects of that particular
medication. As a result, I gained forty pounds over a year, and was very
depressed about it to boot. Then I attended CES at my heaviest, saw the
picture of myself, and decided I had enough. I found another doctor, who was
alarmed at the lack of competence in my medical treatment. He switched me to
another med, Glucophage, and the weight started coming back off on its own. It
had nothing to do with cheeseburgers...that was a joke I made in order to try
to be a little sunnier about the situation. Of course that didn't stop
vultures like yourself from swooping in.

I didn't mention it before because I didn't want to keep making excuses for
what was going on with my body. And the medication also affected my judgment,
allowing my situation to get worse. Now that I have a good doctor, things are
much better, and other than my recent bout with food poisoning (which has
caused me to lose another 10 pounds), I feel and look better than ever. But
don't believe that this will stop me from thinking that people like you and
Arny and Ratso Rizzo, who aren't above making fat jokes, are absolute pieces of
****."

Now, by your rationale, if waiting to respond to a post constitutes spending
time to make up lies, then why did it take you EIGHTEEN MONTHS to reply to my
question about why you made this statement:

"Still smarting about having the whistle blown on your sad power amplifier
game?"

Your reply was that you had no idea why you made that remark. So, by your own
logic, you must have lied, since it took you eighteen months to come up with an
answer.

Also, since you have failed to answer my question posed a couple of days about
Quad ESLs and tube amps, by your logic, we must assume that you are still
trying to come up with a lie.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you
>>>>> 9 days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
>>>>> have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
>>>>> days to come up with all these lies.

Here is my immediate response:

http://www.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=20031118140947.29
211.00000425%40mb-m12.aol.com

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Arny said:
>
>> It took you 20 months to come up with the fairy tale
>>> about your obesity.

> Oh, look at this, from October 9, 2002:

Letsee, that was 13 months ago.

OK, so it wasn't 20 months, it took you more like 7 months to make up the
lie.

Pardon me for not keeping better track of your lies.

You're still pretty slow-witted, aren't you Phillips?

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Arny said:
>
>> That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you
>>>>>> 9 days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you
>>>>>> would have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took
>>>>>> you 9 days to come up with all these lies.
>
> Here is my immediate response:
>
> http://www.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=20031118140947.29
> 211.00000425%40mb-m12.aol.com

But that post doesn'tt contain the lame excuses you just made up and posted

Do try to follow the conversation, Phillps.

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Arny said:
>
>> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you
>>>> 9 days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
>>>> have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
>>>> days to come up with all these lies.
>>>
>>> Logic According To Arnold.
>>
>> Not only that, but it's taken Phillips about 20 months to come up
>> with this lame excuse about his obesity being due to medication.
>
> Wrong. I've mentioned it several times.
>

The first time something like 7 months later. Like I said, the truth is
immediately accessible, but lies can take a while to make up.

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message


> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with
> Arny's sickness, then so be it.

Let's talk about the sickness that frequent posting of your pedophile
fantasies represents, Phillips.

Let's talk about the sickness that frequent posting of your lies about me
being financially impoverished represents, Phillips.

The proper interpretation of your posts Phillips is that they are
autobiographical. For example, when you were claiming that I couldn't climb
ladders due to my alleged fat ass, it was you that by your own account was
suffering from gross obesity.

[Arny Krueger]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message

>
> The insane ones like you and Arny are irrational and predictable.

Thanks for providing more evidence that you think that everybody who
disagrees in public with you is insane, sockpuppet Yustabe.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
>
> >
> > The insane ones like you and Arny are irrational and predictable.
>
> Thanks for providing more evidence that you think that everybody who
> disagrees in public with you is insane, sockpuppet Yustabe.
>

Heavens No!

George, Signal, Wheel, ScottW, and Sanders are certainly not insane.




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[Arny Krueger]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
>>
>>>
>>> The insane ones like you and Arny are irrational and predictable.
>>
>> Thanks for providing more evidence that you think that everybody who
>> disagrees in public with you is insane, sockpuppet Yustabe.
>>
>
> Heavens No!
>
> George, Signal, Wheel, ScottW, and Sanders are certainly not insane.

If irony killed!

[dave weil]

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:02:45 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Arny said:
>>
>>> It took you 20 months to come up with the fairy tale
>>>> about your obesity.
>
>> Oh, look at this, from October 9, 2002:
>
>Letsee, that was 13 months ago.
>
>OK, so it wasn't 20 months, it took you more like 7 months to make up the
>lie.

Ahhhh, so you admit to lying.

Well done, Arnold.

>Pardon me for not keeping better track of your lies.

No pardons for you, Mr. Nasty.

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Arny said:
>>
>>> That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you
>>>>>>> 9 days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you
>>>>>>> would have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took
>>>>>>> you 9 days to come up with all these lies.
>>
>> Here is my immediate response:
>>
>> http://www.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=20031118140947.29
>> 211.00000425%40mb-m12.aol.com
>
>But that post doesn'tt contain the lame excuses you just made up and posted

I didn't post any lame excuses.

>
>Do try to follow the conversation, Phillps.

Oh, I think I'm about three steps ahead of you, as usual.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Arny said:
>>
>>> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you
>>>>> 9 days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
>>>>> have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
>>>>> days to come up with all these lies.
>>>>
>>>> Logic According To Arnold.
>>>
>>> Not only that, but it's taken Phillips about 20 months to come up
>>> with this lame excuse about his obesity being due to medication.
>>
>> Wrong. I've mentioned it several times.
>>
>
>The first time something like 7 months later. Like I said, the truth is
>immediately accessible, but lies can take a while to make up.

You didn't read it closely enough. The explanation is contained within.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>
>> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with
>> Arny's sickness, then so be it.
>
>Let's talk about the sickness that frequent posting of your pedophile
>fantasies represents, Phillips.

That would be your fantasy.

>
>Let's talk about the sickness that frequent posting of your lies about me
>being financially impoverished represents, Phillips.

Again, that would be your fantasy.

>
>The proper interpretation of your posts Phillips is that they are
>autobiographical. For example, when you were claiming that I couldn't climb
>ladders due to my alleged fat ass, it was you that by your own account was
>suffering from gross obesity.

Again, your fantasy.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Arny said:
>>
>>> It took you 20 months to come up with the fairy tale
>>>> about your obesity.
>
>> Oh, look at this, from October 9, 2002:
>
>Letsee, that was 13 months ago.
>
>OK, so it wasn't 20 months, it took you more like 7 months to make up the
>lie.

That would be your fantasy. Of course, the real answer is contained in the
part you just snipped.

>
>Pardon me for not keeping better track of your lies.

That would be your fantasy. In the real world, I just proved you lied...again.

>
>You're still pretty slow-witted, aren't you Phillips?

That would be your fantasy. In the real world, I just kicked your ass.

Boon

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> McKelvy said:
> >>
> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >>
> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
> >untrue.
> >> >>
> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in
the
> >> >sand,
> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
> >audio,
> >> >as
> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
> >> >>
> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
> >> >>
> >> >> Boon
> >> >
> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
> >>
> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the
record.
> >I
> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
> >>
> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known pedophile
for
> >his
> >> views on audio.
> >>
> >> Boon
> >
> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless stream of
> >lies.
>
> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with Arny's
> sickness, then so be it.
>
> Boon

Isn't that what you're doing? You repeat the same lies over and over
denying that they are lies? I know who the sick ones are.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Yustabe said:
> > > >
> > > > >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > >> Yustabe said:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not
> 'polite'
> > > for
> > > > >> >another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in
that
> > > > >district.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But
calling
> > her
> > > > >> "insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that
she
> > does
> > > > >her job
> > > > >> and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she
> > belongs
> > > > >to.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >What matters is the lack of choice.
> > > >
> > > > True, although I think that if Maxine Waters was truly insane,
there'd
> > be
> > > a
> > > > choice in a heartbeat. Even Ted Kennedy came close to losing his
last
> > > > election.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Let's just say she is irrational and erratic.
> > >
> > IOW, insane. You'd probably get along well with her.
>
>
> Irrational and erratic is not necesarily insane. The insane ones
> like you and Arny are irrational and predictable.
>
>
Gotta get you a good dictionary.
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[tor b]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message >...

<s-n-i-p>

Marc "I'm actually only 25% overweight!" Phillips whined:
>
> > Now, the only thing people like you and Richard Malesweski have to go
> > on is a single picture of me taken at my heaviest weight. You two
> > have obsessed over this picture, because both of you need to find a
> > reason to hate me.
>
> Not at all, Marc. First off I don't know who this Malesweski person is,
> except that you obsess over him a lot. So, I have no idea if he even exists
> or what his state of mind is. Secondly, my attitude towards you is based on
> your despicable behavior, not your weight.
>
Virtually every time the Porcine One replies to one of my posts, he
inserts "Richard Malesweski wrote:". Interestingly, however, if we
look at this post, we can see how really ****ed-up-in-the-head Porky
is:

http://tinyurl.com/wwz3

Begin quote:

>Personally, I don't know that you're Malesweski.

End quote

From what I can see, this Malesweski guy hasn't made a post anywhere
on Usenet since late 1999. And I can't find any posts where he and
Phillips were hostile toward each other. So, why does Porky obsess
over him? And why does he insert "Richard Malesweski wrote:" into my
posts when he replies to them even though he himself is on the record
saying (to me): "Personally, I don't know that you're Malesweski."?
Just how nuts is the Porkster, anyway? ;-)
>
> > You need to turn me into someone you can hate.
>
> You did a fine job of that all by yourself, Marc.
>
He sure did. And continues to do so.

[Marc Phillips]

Richard Malesweski said:

><s-n-i-p>
>
>Marc "I'm actually only 25% overweight!" Phillips whined:

Ah, another Internet geek living in a fantasy world comes to Arny's rescue!
How romantic.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> McKelvy said:
>>
>> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> McKelvy said:
>> >>
>> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
>> >untrue.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in
>the
>> >> >sand,
>> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
>> >audio,
>> >> >as
>> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Boon
>> >> >
>> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
>> >>
>> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the
>record.
>> >I
>> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
>> >>
>> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known pedophile
>for
>> >his
>> >> views on audio.
>> >>
>> >> Boon
>> >
>> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless stream of
>> >lies.
>>
>> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with Arny's
>> sickness, then so be it.
>>
>> Boon
>
>Isn't that what you're doing?

Of course not.

You repeat the same lies over and over
>denying that they are lies?

Of course not.

>I know who the sick ones are.

So if you're such a good friend of Arny's, why don't you help him with his
sickness? By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.

Boon

[Torresists]

>From: (Marc Phillips)
>Date: 11/28/2003 2:18 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Richard Malesweski said:
>
http://tinyurl.com/wwz3

Marc Phillips wrote:

Begin quote:

>Personally, I don't know that you're Malesweski."

End quote

What about it, Porky? Is I or is I not "Malesweski"?

(note deliberate use of bad English to accompany the bad "Porkster logic".)

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> McKelvy said:
> >>
> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
> >> >untrue.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head
in
> >the
> >> >> >sand,
> >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
> >> >audio,
> >> >> >as
> >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the
> >record.
> >> >I
> >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
> >> >>
> >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
pedophile
> >for
> >> >his
> >> >> views on audio.
> >> >>
> >> >> Boon
> >> >
> >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless stream
of
> >> >lies.
> >>
> >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with Arny's
> >> sickness, then so be it.
> >>
> >> Boon
> >
> >Isn't that what you're doing?
>
> Of course not.
>
> You repeat the same lies over and over
> >denying that they are lies?
>
> Of course not.
>
> >I know who the sick ones are.
>
> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,

Implies facts not in evidence.

why don't you help him with his
> sickness?

Implies facts not in evidence.

By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.
>

See above.

> Boon
>
You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness. You
have therefore engaged in slander.

[Torresists]

>From: "Michael Mckelvy"
>Date: 11/28/2003 3:13 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>
>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> McKelvy said:
>>
>> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> McKelvy said:
>> >>
>> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
>> >> >untrue.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head
>in
>> >the
>> >> >> >sand,
>> >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
>> >> >audio,
>> >> >> >as
>> >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Boon
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the
>> >record.
>> >> >I
>> >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
>pedophile
>> >for
>> >> >his
>> >> >> views on audio.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Boon
>> >> >
>> >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless stream
>of
>> >> >lies.
>> >>
>> >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with Arny's
>> >> sickness, then so be it.
>> >>
>> >> Boon
>> >
>> >Isn't that what you're doing?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> You repeat the same lies over and over
>> >denying that they are lies?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> >I know who the sick ones are.
>>
>> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
>
>Implies facts not in evidence.
>
> why don't you help him with his
>> sickness?
>
>Implies facts not in evidence.
>
> By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.
>>
>
>See above.
>
>> Boon
>>
>You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness. You
>have therefore engaged in slander.
>
If you remove slander, lies and deceptions from Phillips' posts, there is
little left.

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> McKelvy said:
>>
>> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> McKelvy said:
>> >>
>> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
>> >> >untrue.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head
>in
>> >the
>> >> >> >sand,
>> >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
>> >> >audio,
>> >> >> >as
>> >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Boon
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the
>> >record.
>> >> >I
>> >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
>pedophile
>> >for
>> >> >his
>> >> >> views on audio.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Boon
>> >> >
>> >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless stream
>of
>> >> >lies.
>> >>
>> >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with Arny's
>> >> sickness, then so be it.
>> >>
>> >> Boon
>> >
>> >Isn't that what you're doing?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> You repeat the same lies over and over
>> >denying that they are lies?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> >I know who the sick ones are.
>>
>> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
>
>Implies facts not in evidence.
>
> why don't you help him with his
>> sickness?
>
>Implies facts not in evidence.
>
> By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.
>>
>
>See above.
>
>> Boon
>>
>You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness. You
>have therefore engaged in slander.

So tell us about the killer deal on computer hardware Arny gave you.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Richard Malesweski said:

>If you remove slander, lies and deceptions from Phillips' posts, there is
>little left.

And you? What did you buy for a low, low price from Arny?

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Torresists" > wrote in message


> If you remove slander, lies and deceptions from Phillips' posts,
> there is little left.

Agreed.

BTW have you ever looked at the other "Marc Phillips" posts, prior to June
12, 1999?

[Marc Phillips]

Richard Malesweski said:

>>From: (Marc Phillips)
>>Date: 11/28/2003 2:18 PM Central Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>Richard Malesweski said:
>>
>http://tinyurl.com/wwz3
>
>Marc Phillips wrote:
>
>Begin quote:
>
>>Personally, I don't know that you're Malesweski."
>
>End quote
>
>What about it, Porky? Is I or is I not "Malesweski"?
>
>(note deliberate use of bad English to accompany the bad "Porkster logic".)

Here's an example of YOUR logic, as shown above:

"Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO. ****, what can I do? I
know...I can try to distract him by bringing up my glory days (all
one-and-a-half of them), where I actually annoyed him! Yeah, yeah, Porky!
First you thought I was Haugen! Then you thought I was Malesweski! Well,
which is it? Huh? Huh?"

LOL!

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Torresists" > wrote in message

>
>> If you remove slander, lies and deceptions from Phillips' posts,
>> there is little left.
>
>Agreed.
>
>BTW have you ever looked at the other "Marc Phillips" posts, prior to June
>12, 1999?

Let me ask you a question, Arny. Right now, are you really desperate to dig up
any dirt you can on me because I've beaten you so thoroughly lately, or you a
masochist and this is really getting you off right now?

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>
> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.

Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?

[Torresists]

>From: (Marc Phillips)
>Date: 11/28/2003 3:30 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Richard Malesweski said:
>
http://tinyurl.com/wwz3
>
>>>From: (Marc Phillips)
>>>Date: 11/28/2003 2:18 PM Central Standard Time
>>>Message-id: >
>>>
>>>Richard Malesweski said:
>>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/wwz3
>>
>>Marc Phillips wrote:
>>
>>Begin quote:
>>
>>>Personally, I don't know that you're Malesweski."
>>
>>End quote
>>
>>What about it, Porky? Is I or is I not "Malesweski"?
>>
>>(note deliberate use of bad English to accompany the bad "Porkster logic".)
>
>Here's an example of YOUR logic, as shown above:
>
>"Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO. ****, what can I do? I
>know...I can try to distract him by bringing up my glory days (all
>one-and-a-half of them), where I actually annoyed him! Yeah, yeah, Porky!
>First you thought I was Haugen! Then you thought I was Malesweski! Well,
>which is it? Huh? Huh?"
>
>LOL!
>
Avoiding the issue, Porky? Trying to buy time while you concoct a new lie? Why
not just recycle one of your old lies? ;-)

[Torresists]

>From: "Arny Krueger"
>Date: 11/28/2003 3:40 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>>
>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
>
>Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?
>
He's trying to tell you that you got him 'excited', Arny.

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>>
>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
>
>Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?

Since you're a proven pedophile, you may have a different definition than I do.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Richard Malesweski said:

>>From: "Arny Krueger"
>>Date: 11/28/2003 3:40 PM Central Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>>>
>>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
>>
>>Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?
>>
>He's trying to tell you that you got him 'excited', Arny.

Now I'm convinced that the reason you support Arny is because you're partners
in pedophilia.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Richard Malesweski said:

>>From: (Marc Phillips)
>>Date: 11/28/2003 3:30 PM Central Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>Richard Malesweski said:
>>
>http://tinyurl.com/wwz3
>>
>>>>From: (Marc Phillips)
>>>>Date: 11/28/2003 2:18 PM Central Standard Time
>>>>Message-id: >
>>>>
>>>>Richard Malesweski said:
>>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/wwz3
>>>
>>>Marc Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>>Begin quote:
>>>
>>>>Personally, I don't know that you're Malesweski."
>>>
>>>End quote
>>>
>>>What about it, Porky? Is I or is I not "Malesweski"?
>>>
>>>(note deliberate use of bad English to accompany the bad "Porkster logic".)
>>
>>Here's an example of YOUR logic, as shown above:
>>
>>"Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO. ****, what can I do? I
>>know...I can try to distract him by bringing up my glory days (all
>>one-and-a-half of them), where I actually annoyed him! Yeah, yeah, Porky!
>>First you thought I was Haugen! Then you thought I was Malesweski! Well,
>>which is it? Huh? Huh?"
>>
>>LOL!
>>
>Avoiding the issue, Porky? Trying to buy time while you concoct a new lie?
>Why
>not just recycle one of your old lies? ;-)

Avoiding what issue? I spelled it out pretty plainly for you.

Boon

[Torresists]

>From: G.S. Nail
>Date: 11/26/2003 6:12 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>>Just prove that I'm a pedophile, Phillips. That requires a criminal
>>conviction in a court of law <>
>
>Nonsense. 'Paedophile' is not a specific legal term. A person cannot
>be convicted of 'being a paedophile' as it is simply a mental
>condition.
>
>What the word means : An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or
>children.
>
>When you fabricated and posted graphic descriptions of child sex acts,
>you set yourself up as a paedophile. No court of law can prove that,
>unless you act out your fantasies. Of course a pedophile can be
>identified and prosecuted and officially branded as such for
>committing offences such as child pornography, molestation or indecent
>exposure. It's well documented that you like to expose yourself in
>public, so in the absense of a criminal investigation one can only
>hope that you are not guilty of these crimes.
>
>
>
>--
>S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t
>
>
>
>
>
>

-

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Arny said:
>
>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>
>>>
>>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
>>
>> Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?
>
> Since you're a proven pedophile, you may have a different definition
> than I do.

So that means you're not going to be accoutable for your choice of words, eh
Marc?

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Arny said:
>
>> "Torresists" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> If you remove slander, lies and deceptions from Phillips' posts,
>>> there is little left.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> BTW have you ever looked at the other "Marc Phillips" posts, prior
>> to June 12, 1999?
>
> Let me ask you a question, Arny. Right now, are you really desperate
> to dig up any dirt you can on me because I've beaten you so
> thoroughly lately, or you a masochist and this is really getting you
> off right now?

Just some curious old business.

But since you've injected yourself into the discussion Marc, why don't you
tell us all about your involvement in this topic.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> > McKelvy said:
> >
> > >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> McKelvy said:
> > >>
> > >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> >> McKelvy said:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > >> >> ...
> > >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that
are
> > >> >untrue.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your
head
> in
> > >the
> > >> >> >sand,
> > >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views
on
> > >> >audio,
> > >> >> >as
> > >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Boon
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the
> > >record.
> > >> >I
> > >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
> pedophile
> > >for
> > >> >his
> > >> >> views on audio.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Boon
> > >> >
> > >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless stream
> of
> > >> >lies.
> > >>
> > >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with
Arny's
> > >> sickness, then so be it.
> > >>
> > >> Boon
> > >
> > >Isn't that what you're doing?
> >
> > Of course not.
> >
> > You repeat the same lies over and over
> > >denying that they are lies?
> >
> > Of course not.
> >
> > >I know who the sick ones are.
> >
> > So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
>
> Implies facts not in evidence.
>
> why don't you help him with his
> > sickness?
>
> Implies facts not in evidence.
>
> By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.
> >
>
> See above.
>
> > Boon
> >
> You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness. You
> have therefore engaged in slander.
>

We will eagerly await a lawsuit.




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[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Richard Malesweski said:
>
> >If you remove slander, lies and deceptions from Phillips' posts, there is
> >little left.
>
> And you? What did you buy for a low, low price from Arny?
>
> Boon
>

I want in on the action. Arny!?!?! Hear that? you're a nice guy.
anyone who says you are an asshole is crazy.




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[George M. Middius]

SockY said to the Bug Eater:

> > You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness. You
> > have therefore engaged in slander.

> We will eagerly await a lawsuit.

I'm wondering why Mikey refuses to give us his own explanation for
Krooger's deliberate posting of pedophile fantasies on RAO. Sane
people are able to understand a short chain of events and arrive at
the only tenable conclusion. Perhaps you could escort duh-Mikey
through what will no doubt be, for him, a very challenging maze of
daunting logic.


It all started when Kroo****, in a typical frenzy of MasterLying,
posted "excerpts" that he claimed were taken from some "e-mails"
that he claimed had been "sent" to him. These excerpts were deviant
and pedophiliac in nature, including one about Arnii allegedly
fondling his son's corpse. While reciting these lewd and lurid
passages, Krooger accused various RAOers of having conspired to
"send" the "e-mails" to him.

Some time later, an RAO poster raised the issue of whether there had
actually been any emails to begin with. If not, said this poster,
then Krooger had invented the "excerpts". There followed several
exchanges concerning the headers of the "e-mails", the contents of
which might be able to establish whether Turdy had received any
e-mails to begin with, and further who might have "sent" them. The
issue came to a head with a demand from several RAOers that Mr. ****
post the alleged headers. Several days later, Turdborg did post the
"headers".

Immediately thereafter, a sometime RAO poster who has professional
experience as an Internet investigator analyzed the "headers" to
determine whether they were genuine. He concluded they were not
genuine, meaning there were no emails in the first place. That in
turn meant that Krooger himself made up those smutty, perverted
passages about having sex with his son, both pre- and post-mortem.

The grotesque passages describing deviant sexual activity were thus
proven to have originated in Krooger's alleged mind. That is why the
accusation that Krooger is a known pedophile is reasonable and, in
fact, patent and proven.


See what duh-Mikey has to say about this. If he disputes the
existence of the post in question, we can help him find it. If he
disputes the analyis of the nonexistent "headers" that Krooger
invented, we can help him understand that. If he disputes the
obvious conclusion that anybody who has this type of fantasy is
disturbed and a sexual deviant, God help him.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> McKelvy said:
> >>
> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that
are
> >> >> >untrue.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your
head
> >in
> >> >the
> >> >> >> >sand,
> >> >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views
on
> >> >> >audio,
> >> >> >> >as
> >> >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the
> >> >record.
> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
> >pedophile
> >> >for
> >> >> >his
> >> >> >> views on audio.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >
> >> >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless
stream
> >of
> >> >> >lies.
> >> >>
> >> >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with
Arny's
> >> >> sickness, then so be it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Boon
> >> >
> >> >Isn't that what you're doing?
> >>
> >> Of course not.
> >>
> >> You repeat the same lies over and over
> >> >denying that they are lies?
> >>
> >> Of course not.
> >>
> >> >I know who the sick ones are.
> >>
> >> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
> >
> >Implies facts not in evidence.
> >
> > why don't you help him with his
> >> sickness?
> >
> >Implies facts not in evidence.
> >
> > By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.
> >>
> >
> >See above.
> >
> >> Boon
> >>
> >You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness. You
> >have therefore engaged in slander.
>
> So tell us about the killer deal on computer hardware Arny gave you.
>
> Boon

I've never purchased anything from Arny.

Yopu might also notice that I don't respond to many of his posts.

I also don't think he always handles every situation here with wisdom.

I criticise those who make up things and try to insist they are true.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > McKelvy said:
> > >
> > > >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >> McKelvy said:
> > > >>
> > > >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > >> ...
> > > >> >> McKelvy said:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > >> >> ...
> > > >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that
> are
> > > >> >untrue.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your
> head
> > in
> > > >the
> > > >> >> >sand,
> > > >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his
views
> on
> > > >> >audio,
> > > >> >> >as
> > > >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Boon
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the
> > > >record.
> > > >> >I
> > > >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
> > pedophile
> > > >for
> > > >> >his
> > > >> >> views on audio.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Boon
> > > >> >
> > > >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless
stream
> > of
> > > >> >lies.
> > > >>
> > > >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with
> Arny's
> > > >> sickness, then so be it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Boon
> > > >
> > > >Isn't that what you're doing?
> > >
> > > Of course not.
> > >
> > > You repeat the same lies over and over
> > > >denying that they are lies?
> > >
> > > Of course not.
> > >
> > > >I know who the sick ones are.
> > >
> > > So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
> >
> > Implies facts not in evidence.
> >
> > why don't you help him with his
> > > sickness?
> >
> > Implies facts not in evidence.
> >
> > By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.
> > >
> >
> > See above.
> >
> > > Boon
> > >
> > You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness. You
> > have therefore engaged in slander.
> >
>
> We will eagerly await a lawsuit.
>
>
From whom?


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[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> SockY said to the Bug Eater:
>
> > > You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness.
You
> > > have therefore engaged in slander.
>
> > We will eagerly await a lawsuit.
>
> I'm wondering why Mikey refuses to give us his own explanation for
> Krooger's deliberate posting of pedophile fantasies on RAO. Sane
> people are able to understand a short chain of events and arrive at
> the only tenable conclusion. Perhaps you could escort duh-Mikey
> through what will no doubt be, for him, a very challenging maze of
> daunting logic.
>

I am not willing to 'sacrifice' so much time and energy.


>
> It all started when Kroo****, in a typical frenzy of MasterLying,
> posted "excerpts" that he claimed were taken from some "e-mails"
> that he claimed had been "sent" to him. These excerpts were deviant
> and pedophiliac in nature, including one about Arnii allegedly
> fondling his son's corpse. While reciting these lewd and lurid
> passages, Krooger accused various RAOers of having conspired to
> "send" the "e-mails" to him.
>
> Some time later, an RAO poster raised the issue of whether there had
> actually been any emails to begin with. If not, said this poster,
> then Krooger had invented the "excerpts". There followed several
> exchanges concerning the headers of the "e-mails", the contents of
> which might be able to establish whether Turdy had received any
> e-mails to begin with, and further who might have "sent" them. The
> issue came to a head with a demand from several RAOers that Mr. ****
> post the alleged headers. Several days later, Turdborg did post the
> "headers".
>
> Immediately thereafter, a sometime RAO poster who has professional
> experience as an Internet investigator analyzed the "headers" to
> determine whether they were genuine. He concluded they were not
> genuine, meaning there were no emails in the first place. That in
> turn meant that Krooger himself made up those smutty, perverted
> passages about having sex with his son, both pre- and post-mortem.
>
> The grotesque passages describing deviant sexual activity were thus
> proven to have originated in Krooger's alleged mind. That is why the
> accusation that Krooger is a known pedophile is reasonable and, in
> fact, patent and proven.
>
>
> See what duh-Mikey has to say about this. If he disputes the
> existence of the post in question, we can help him find it. If he
> disputes the analyis of the nonexistent "headers" that Krooger
> invented, we can help him understand that. If he disputes the
> obvious conclusion that anybody who has this type of fantasy is
> disturbed and a sexual deviant, God help him.
>
>
>
>




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[Michael Mckelvy]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> SockY said to the Bug Eater:
>
> > > You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness.
You
> > > have therefore engaged in slander.
>
> > We will eagerly await a lawsuit.
>
> I'm wondering why Mikey refuses to give us his own explanation for
> Krooger's deliberate posting of pedophile fantasies on RAO.

Why don't you give us your explanation fopr why you are the USENET version
of a stalker?

Why do you care what I think?

Sane
> people are able to understand a short chain of events and arrive at
> the only tenable conclusion.

I have, you are a miserable excuse for a human.

Perhaps you could escort duh-Mikey
> through what will no doubt be, for him, a very challenging maze of
> daunting logic.
>
>
> It all started when Kroo****, in a typical frenzy of MasterLying,
> posted "excerpts" that he claimed were taken from some "e-mails"
> that he claimed had been "sent" to him. These excerpts were deviant
> and pedophiliac in nature, including one about Arnii allegedly
> fondling his son's corpse.

Exactly the type of thing that you might write.

While reciting these lewd and lurid
> passages, Krooger accused various RAOers of having conspired to
> "send" the "e-mails" to him.
>
A very reasonable conclusion.

> Some time later, an RAO poster raised the issue of whether there had
> actually been any emails to begin with. If not, said this poster,
> then Krooger had invented the "excerpts". There followed several
> exchanges concerning the headers of the "e-mails", the contents of
> which might be able to establish whether Turdy had received any
> e-mails to begin with, and further who might have "sent" them. The
> issue came to a head with a demand from several RAOers that Mr. ****
> post the alleged headers. Several days later, Turdborg did post the
> "headers".
>
> Immediately thereafter, a sometime RAO poster who has professional
> experience as an Internet investigator analyzed the "headers" to
> determine whether they were genuine.

The poster you are referring to has not been even confirmed to be a real
person. Nothing he said can be taken as factual.

He concluded they were not
> genuine, meaning there were no emails in the first place.

Anybody that says anything bad about Arny somehow has instant credibility
with you.

That in
> turn meant that Krooger himself made up those smutty, perverted
> passages about having sex with his son, both pre- and post-mortem.
>
> The grotesque passages describing deviant sexual activity were thus
> proven to have originated in Krooger's alleged mind.

No they were alleged to have been, by someone that nobody has any actual
knowledge of.

That is why the
> accusation that Krooger is a known pedophile is reasonable and, in
> fact, patent and proven.
>
No, this is why you are an idiot. You beleive unsubstaniated rumors from a
sockpuppet. Possibly your sockpuppet.

>
> See what duh-Mikey has to say about this. If he disputes the
> existence of the post in question, we can help him find it.

I've seen it you ****head.

If he
> disputes the analyis of the nonexistent "headers" that Krooger
> invented, we can help him understand that. If he disputes the
> obvious conclusion that anybody who has this type of fantasy is
> disturbed and a sexual deviant, God help him.
>
>

I dispute all of it, except that it's very possible, even likely that some
other RAO **** head would generate such a disgusting story.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > McKelvy said:
> > > >
> > > > >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > >> McKelvy said:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > > >> ...
> > > > >> >> McKelvy said:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > > >> >> ...
> > > > >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things
that
> > are
> > > > >> >untrue.
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your
> > head
> > > in
> > > > >the
> > > > >> >> >sand,
> > > > >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his
> views
> > on
> > > > >> >audio,
> > > > >> >> >as
> > > > >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> Boon
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on
the
> > > > >record.
> > > > >> >I
> > > > >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
> > > pedophile
> > > > >for
> > > > >> >his
> > > > >> >> views on audio.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Boon
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless
> stream
> > > of
> > > > >> >lies.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with
> > Arny's
> > > > >> sickness, then so be it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Boon
> > > > >
> > > > >Isn't that what you're doing?
> > > >
> > > > Of course not.
> > > >
> > > > You repeat the same lies over and over
> > > > >denying that they are lies?
> > > >
> > > > Of course not.
> > > >
> > > > >I know who the sick ones are.
> > > >
> > > > So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
> > >
> > > Implies facts not in evidence.
> > >
> > > why don't you help him with his
> > > > sickness?
> > >
> > > Implies facts not in evidence.
> > >
> > > By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.
> > > >
> > >
> > > See above.
> > >
> > > > Boon
> > > >
> > > You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness.
You
> > > have therefore engaged in slander.
> > >
> >
> > We will eagerly await a lawsuit.
> >
> >
> From whom?
>
>
you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a lawsuit
against Marc, filed by Arny.




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[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> McKelvy said:
>>
>> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> McKelvy said:
>> >>
>> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that
>are
>> >> >> >untrue.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your
>head
>> >in
>> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >sand,
>> >> >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views
>on
>> >> >> >audio,
>> >> >> >> >as
>> >> >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Boon
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the
>> >> >record.
>> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
>> >pedophile
>> >> >for
>> >> >> >his
>> >> >> >> views on audio.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Boon
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless
>stream
>> >of
>> >> >> >lies.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with
>Arny's
>> >> >> sickness, then so be it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Boon
>> >> >
>> >> >Isn't that what you're doing?
>> >>
>> >> Of course not.
>> >>
>> >> You repeat the same lies over and over
>> >> >denying that they are lies?
>> >>
>> >> Of course not.
>> >>
>> >> >I know who the sick ones are.
>> >>
>> >> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
>> >
>> >Implies facts not in evidence.
>> >
>> > why don't you help him with his
>> >> sickness?
>> >
>> >Implies facts not in evidence.
>> >
>> > By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.
>> >>
>> >
>> >See above.
>> >
>> >> Boon
>> >>
>> >You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness. You
>> >have therefore engaged in slander.
>>
>> So tell us about the killer deal on computer hardware Arny gave you.
>>
>> Boon
>
>I've never purchased anything from Arny.
>
>Yopu might also notice that I don't respond to many of his posts.
>
>I also don't think he always handles every situation here with wisdom.
>
>I criticise those who make up things and try to insist they are true.

That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Arny said:
>>
>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
>>>
>>> Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?
>>
>> Since you're a proven pedophile, you may have a different definition
>> than I do.
>
>So that means you're not going to be accoutable for your choice of words, eh
>Marc?

I'm not sure what "accoutable" means. If you mean accountable, I've always
been accountable for every word I've said here, unlike you.

"Creamed" is slang for crashed, or wiped out, as in a car. "I really got
creamed in that accident." By saying that I creamed you all over RAO, I meant
that I caused you to lose control of your so-called arguments and skid out of
control and crash. If you think I meant "creamed" in a sexual way, you will
note that it doesn't make sense that way. Since your mastery of the English
language is so marginal, this may be hard for you to understand. Hence, you'll
assuredly come up with another lame excuse as to why you choose to live in a
fantasy world.

I'm waiting.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Arny said:
>>
>>> "Torresists" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you remove slander, lies and deceptions from Phillips' posts,
>>>> there is little left.
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> BTW have you ever looked at the other "Marc Phillips" posts, prior
>>> to June 12, 1999?
>>
>> Let me ask you a question, Arny. Right now, are you really desperate
>> to dig up any dirt you can on me because I've beaten you so
>> thoroughly lately, or you a masochist and this is really getting you
>> off right now?
>
>Just some curious old business.
>
>But since you've injected yourself into the discussion Marc, why don't you
>tell us all about your involvement in this topic.

If you're referring to posts previous to Usenet prior to June of 1999 under the
name of Marc Phillips, I'll say what I said to you the last time you brought
this up, that they're not from me. If you feel you can prove otherwise, by all
means try. I won't hold my breath waiting for you to support your false
claims, though.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Yustabe said:

>you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a lawsuit
>against Marc, filed by Arny.
>

The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement already has
a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message


'> you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a lawsuit
> against Marc, filed by Arny.

Pleas huld yur braTH.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Yustabe said:
>
> >you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a lawsuit
> >against Marc, filed by Arny.
> >
>
> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement already
has
> a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>
well, that's "at least" one of the many reasons.




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[George M. Middius]

SockY said:

> > The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement already has
> > a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.

> well, that's "at least" one of the many reasons.

The first one I think of is that somewhere in that maelstrom of
bizarreness that Krooger calls a "mind", he's aware of how futile it
would be to try his "debating trade" nonsense in the real world. He
probably learned that lesson by bitter experience.





This post reformatted by the Resistance,
laboring tirelessly to de-Kroogerize Usenet.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> McKelvy said:
> >>
> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things
that
> >are
> >> >> >> >untrue.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your
> >head
> >> >in
> >> >> >the
> >> >> >> >> >sand,
> >> >> >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his
views
> >on
> >> >> >> >audio,
> >> >> >> >> >as
> >> >> >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on
the
> >> >> >record.
> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
> >> >pedophile
> >> >> >for
> >> >> >> >his
> >> >> >> >> views on audio.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless
> >stream
> >> >of
> >> >> >> >lies.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with
> >Arny's
> >> >> >> sickness, then so be it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Isn't that what you're doing?
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course not.
> >> >>
> >> >> You repeat the same lies over and over
> >> >> >denying that they are lies?
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course not.
> >> >>
> >> >> >I know who the sick ones are.
> >> >>
> >> >> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
> >> >
> >> >Implies facts not in evidence.
> >> >
> >> > why don't you help him with his
> >> >> sickness?
> >> >
> >> >Implies facts not in evidence.
> >> >
> >> > By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >See above.
> >> >
> >> >> Boon
> >> >>
> >> >You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness.
You
> >> >have therefore engaged in slander.
> >>
> >> So tell us about the killer deal on computer hardware Arny gave you.
> >>
> >> Boon
> >
> >I've never purchased anything from Arny.
> >
> >Yopu might also notice that I don't respond to many of his posts.
> >
> >I also don't think he always handles every situation here with wisdom.
> >
> >I criticise those who make up things and try to insist they are true.
>
> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.
>
> Boon

Still lying. Don't you have a real life?

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > McKelvy said:
> > > > >
> > > > > >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >> McKelvy said:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > > > >> ...
> > > > > >> >> McKelvy said:
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> > > > > >> >> ...
> > > > > >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things
> that
> > > are
> > > > > >> >untrue.
> > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding
your
> > > head
> > > > in
> > > > > >the
> > > > > >> >> >sand,
> > > > > >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his
> > views
> > > on
> > > > > >> >audio,
> > > > > >> >> >as
> > > > > >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
> > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
> > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >> Boon
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on
> the
> > > > > >record.
> > > > > >> >I
> > > > > >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
> > > > pedophile
> > > > > >for
> > > > > >> >his
> > > > > >> >> views on audio.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Boon
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless
> > stream
> > > > of
> > > > > >> >lies.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity
with
> > > Arny's
> > > > > >> sickness, then so be it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Boon
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Isn't that what you're doing?
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course not.
> > > > >
> > > > > You repeat the same lies over and over
> > > > > >denying that they are lies?
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course not.
> > > > >
> > > > > >I know who the sick ones are.
> > > > >
> > > > > So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
> > > >
> > > > Implies facts not in evidence.
> > > >
> > > > why don't you help him with his
> > > > > sickness?
> > > >
> > > > Implies facts not in evidence.
> > > >
> > > > By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > See above.
> > > >
> > > > > Boon
> > > > >
> > > > You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness.
> You
> > > > have therefore engaged in slander.
> > > >
> > >
> > > We will eagerly await a lawsuit.
> > >
> > >
> > From whom?
> >
> >
> you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a lawsuit
> against Marc, filed by Arny.
>
>
I doubt he would, since this is RAO and not real life.



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[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Yustabe said:
>
> >you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a lawsuit
> >against Marc, filed by Arny.
> >
>
> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement already
has
> a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>
> Boon

As I understand it being in possession of the sort of material that's been
described is a crime. If he had such material at any time that he had
downloaded he'd be in jail now.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Arny said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>
> >> Arny said:
> >>
> >>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
> >>>
> >>> Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?
> >>
> >> Since you're a proven pedophile, you may have a different definition
> >> than I do.
> >
> >So that means you're not going to be accoutable for your choice of words,
eh
> >Marc?
>
> I'm not sure what "accoutable" means. If you mean accountable, I've
always
> been accountable for every word I've said here, unlike you.
>
> "Creamed" is slang for crashed, or wiped out, as in a car. "I really got
> creamed in that accident." By saying that I creamed you all over RAO, I
meant
> that I caused you to lose control of your so-called arguments and skid out
of
> control and crash. If you think I meant "creamed" in a sexual way, you
will
> note that it doesn't make sense that way. Since your mastery of the
English
> language is so marginal, this may be hard for you to understand. Hence,
you'll
> assuredly come up with another lame excuse as to why you choose to live in
a
> fantasy world.
>
That would be YOUR fantasy.

[Sandman]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Yustabe said:

> >Let's just say she is irrational and erratic.
>
> She certainly was during Clinton's impeachment.

I thought she added some much needed comic relief. :-)

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>
> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.

Marc why don't you show us how you justify your claims that I'm a "proven
pedophile".

You've made this claim dozens of times under your own name.

Where's your proof?

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Yustabe said:
>
>> you claimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waiting for a lawsuit
>> against Marc, filed by Arny.

> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.

No the reason why I won't do this is that I'm not a immature crybaby like
sockpuppet wheeler. I realize that RAO is a disorderly place and much of
what is said here has zero credibility anyplace in the real world.

I'd like to see Marc produce reliable evidence the files he claims exist
actually exist. He should be able to provide the name of the law enforcement
organization and a file number. If he can't he's obviously lying.

So Marc, name the law enforcement organization and the file number, or admit
that you're fantasizing, again.

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message

> SockY said:
>
>>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
>>> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>
>> well, that's "at least" one of the many reasons.
>
> The first one I think of is that somewhere in that maelstrom of
> bizarreness that Krooger calls a "mind", he's aware of how futile it
> would be to try his "debating trade" nonsense in the real world. He
> probably learned that lesson by bitter experience.

How did you learn it, Middius?

[Arny Krueger]

"Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message

> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Yustabe said:
>>
>>> you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a
>>> lawsuit against Marc, filed by Arny.
>>>
>>
>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
>> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>>
>> Boon
>
> As I understand it being in possession of the sort of material that's
> been described is a crime. If he had such material at any time that
> he had downloaded he'd be in jail now.

This is the real world and law enforcement officers have finite resources.
I've talked to an undercover officer of the Michigan State Police about this
at length in a conversation I initiated, partially as a result of Marc's
reprehensible online behavior.

The typical pedophile that they target has thousands of pieces of pedophile
pornography.

What you hear said about Michael Jackson appears to be true - pedophiles
strongly tend to be repeat offenders. There isn't just one child, and there
isn't just one piece of pornography or even just a small number thereof.

There's no way the MSP would try to make a case based on just one piece of
kiddie porn. Too risky because the rules of evidence with respect to child
porn are fuzzy, and of course they have much bigger fish to fry. The hot
buttons w/r/t pedophiles are chat rooms and the like.

Marc Phillips might be a good target for the California law enforcement
officials because he likes to initiate so many discussions about child
pornography. Marc's comments on RAO just scream "Send me kiddie porn
because I Marc Phillips obsess over it".

In contrast, my comments indicate that I hate kiddie porn, and know how to
get the MSP involved if anybody tries to send me some. The phone number of
that MSP undercover officer is in my auto-dialer. The possibility that the
source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies Yustabe
or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore at this
point.

[Arny Krueger]

"Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message

>>>
>> you claimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waiting for a lawsuit
>> against Marc, filed by Arny.

> I doubt he would, since this is RAO and not real life.


Exactly right. Notice that it is sockpuppet wheel who has so thoroughly
confused RAO with real life that he is trying to take me to court in
California over a casual remark that I have been the butt of dozens if not
hundreds of times.

Sockpuppet wheel is so confused that he thinks that a casual comment on RAO
has impacted his real-world life, and I have a signed, court-approved
document that proves it. In short, it's a legal document that proves that he
is delusional and has thoroughly lost it mentally.

It's ironic how thoroughly so many of these guys false claims about me,
apply exactly to them.

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> Yustabe said:
>>
>> >you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a lawsuit
>> >against Marc, filed by Arny.
>> >
>>
>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement already
>has
>> a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>>
>> Boon
>
>As I understand it being in possession of the sort of material that's been
>described is a crime. If he had such material at any time that he had
>downloaded he'd be in jail now.

Arny himself admitting to having the material for over three years. You know,
McKelvy, it's pretty clear that you have no idea what you're talking about on
this matter. It's clear that you lied when you said you looked at all the
evidence.

You are an idiot.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message

>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Yustabe said:
>>>
>>>> you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a
>>>> lawsuit against Marc, filed by Arny.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
>>> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>>>
>>> Boon
>>
>> As I understand it being in possession of the sort of material that's
>> been described is a crime. If he had such material at any time that
>> he had downloaded he'd be in jail now.
>
>This is the real world and law enforcement officers have finite resources.
>I've talked to an undercover officer of the Michigan State Police about this
>at length in a conversation I initiated, partially as a result of Marc's
>reprehensible online behavior.
>
>The typical pedophile that they target has thousands of pieces of pedophile
>pornography.
>
>What you hear said about Michael Jackson appears to be true - pedophiles
>strongly tend to be repeat offenders. There isn't just one child, and there
>isn't just one piece of pornography or even just a small number thereof.
>
>There's no way the MSP would try to make a case based on just one piece of
>kiddie porn. Too risky because the rules of evidence with respect to child
>porn are fuzzy, and of course they have much bigger fish to fry. The hot
>buttons w/r/t pedophiles are chat rooms and the like.
>
>Marc Phillips might be a good target for the California law enforcement
>officials because he likes to initiate so many discussions about child
>pornography. Marc's comments on RAO just scream "Send me kiddie porn
>because I Marc Phillips obsess over it".
>
>In contrast, my comments indicate that I hate kiddie porn, and know how to
>get the MSP involved if anybody tries to send me some. The phone number of
>that MSP undercover officer is in my auto-dialer. The possibility that the
>source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies Yustabe
>or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore at this
>point.

Again, more fantasy. What a wonderful, carefree world you live in, pervert.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> McKelvy said:
>>
>> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> McKelvy said:
>> >>
>> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things
>that
>> >are
>> >> >> >> >untrue.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your
>> >head
>> >> >in
>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >> >sand,
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his
>views
>> >on
>> >> >> >> >audio,
>> >> >> >> >> >as
>> >> >> >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Boon
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on
>the
>> >> >> >record.
>> >> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
>> >> >pedophile
>> >> >> >for
>> >> >> >> >his
>> >> >> >> >> views on audio.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Boon
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless
>> >stream
>> >> >of
>> >> >> >> >lies.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with
>> >Arny's
>> >> >> >> sickness, then so be it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Boon
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Isn't that what you're doing?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Of course not.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You repeat the same lies over and over
>> >> >> >denying that they are lies?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Of course not.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I know who the sick ones are.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
>> >> >
>> >> >Implies facts not in evidence.
>> >> >
>> >> > why don't you help him with his
>> >> >> sickness?
>> >> >
>> >> >Implies facts not in evidence.
>> >> >
>> >> > By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling him.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >See above.
>> >> >
>> >> >> Boon
>> >> >>
>> >> >You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness.
>You
>> >> >have therefore engaged in slander.
>> >>
>> >> So tell us about the killer deal on computer hardware Arny gave you.
>> >>
>> >> Boon
>> >
>> >I've never purchased anything from Arny.
>> >
>> >Yopu might also notice that I don't respond to many of his posts.
>> >
>> >I also don't think he always handles every situation here with wisdom.
>> >
>> >I criticise those who make up things and try to insist they are true.
>>
>> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.
>>
>> Boon
>
>Still lying. Don't you have a real life?

Considering that I just caught you lying about looking at the entire case, I'd
say you need to shut the **** up about now.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> Arny said:
>>
>> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> Arny said:
>> >>
>> >>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
>> >>>
>> >>> Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?
>> >>
>> >> Since you're a proven pedophile, you may have a different definition
>> >> than I do.
>> >
>> >So that means you're not going to be accoutable for your choice of words,
>eh
>> >Marc?
>>
>> I'm not sure what "accoutable" means. If you mean accountable, I've
>always
>> been accountable for every word I've said here, unlike you.
>>
>> "Creamed" is slang for crashed, or wiped out, as in a car. "I really got
>> creamed in that accident." By saying that I creamed you all over RAO, I
>meant
>> that I caused you to lose control of your so-called arguments and skid out
>of
>> control and crash. If you think I meant "creamed" in a sexual way, you
>will
>> note that it doesn't make sense that way. Since your mastery of the
>English
>> language is so marginal, this may be hard for you to understand. Hence,
>you'll
>> assuredly come up with another lame excuse as to why you choose to live in
>a
>> fantasy world.
>>
>That would be YOUR fantasy.

So you agree that it was a good idea for Arny to ask for proof of my
mother-in-law's death.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>>
>> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.
>
>Marc why don't you show us how you justify your claims that I'm a "proven
>pedophile".
>
>You've made this claim dozens of times under your own name.
>
>Where's your proof?

In your fantasy world, when you wait long enough, people will forget, and the
proof will disappear. Does that pretty much sum it up for you?

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Yustabe said:
>>
>>> you claimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waiting for a lawsuit
>>> against Marc, filed by Arny.
>
>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
>> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>
>No the reason why I won't do this is that I'm not a immature crybaby like
>sockpuppet wheeler. I realize that RAO is a disorderly place and much of
>what is said here has zero credibility anyplace in the real world.
>
>I'd like to see Marc produce reliable evidence the files he claims exist
>actually exist. He should be able to provide the name of the law enforcement
>organization and a file number. If he can't he's obviously lying.
>
>So Marc, name the law enforcement organization and the file number, or admit
>that you're fantasizing, again.

It's funny that when we originally dealt with this matter, you were all too
aware with what I was talking about. The you changed your mind and pretended
you didn't know. Then you did know. And now today, you don't.

Maybe you should make a diagram to keep your lies straight.

Boon

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...


>. The possibility that the
> source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
Yustabe
> or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore at this
> point.
>
>

You are truly one sick puppy.

BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.
At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts,
I did not even know of your existence.




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[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
>
> >>>
> >> you claimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waiting for a lawsuit
> >> against Marc, filed by Arny.
>
> > I doubt he would, since this is RAO and not real life.
>
>
> Exactly right. Notice that it is sockpuppet wheel who has so thoroughly
> confused RAO with real life that he is trying to take me to court in
> California over a casual remark that I have been the butt of dozens if not
> hundreds of times.
>

You were given ample opportunity to rescind it,
and you did not.


> Sockpuppet wheel is so confused that he thinks that a casual comment on
RAO
> has impacted his real-world life, and I have a signed, court-approved
> document that proves it. In short, it's a legal document that proves that
he
> is delusional and has thoroughly lost it mentally.
>
> It's ironic how thoroughly so many of these guys false claims about me,
> apply exactly to them.
>

A great tort defense has been invented! Its the insanity defense with
a twist, instead of claiming that the defendant is insane, you
claim that the plaintiff is insane!!!!
plaintiff is insane!




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[S888Wheel]

<<

Exactly right. Notice that it is sockpuppet wheel who has so thoroughly
confused RAO with real life that he is trying to take me to court in
California over a casual remark that I have been the butt of dozens if not
hundreds of times.
>><BR><BR>


I'm not trying Arny. You have been sued and you now face a default judgement.
We will see if a judge considers posting a false accusation of pedophilis as "a
causual remark." I fidn your characterization of this false accusation a sign
of twisted moral values. how often do you make these kinds of "casual remarks"
in your church?

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> McKelvy said:
>
>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Arny said:
>>>
>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Arny said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you're a proven pedophile, you may have a different
>>>>> definition than I do.
>>>>
>>>> So that means you're not going to be accoutable for your choice of
>>>> words, eh Marc?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what "accoutable" means. If you mean accountable,
>>> I've always been accountable for every word I've said here, unlike
>>> you.
>>>
>>> "Creamed" is slang for crashed, or wiped out, as in a car. "I
>>> really got creamed in that accident." By saying that I creamed you
>>> all over RAO, I meant that I caused you to lose control of your
>>> so-called arguments and skid out of control and crash. If you
>>> think I meant "creamed" in a sexual way, you will note that it
>>> doesn't make sense that way. Since your mastery of the English
>>> language is so marginal, this may be hard for you to understand.
>>> Hence, you'll assuredly come up with another lame excuse as to why
>>> you choose to live in a fantasy world.
>>>
>> That would be YOUR fantasy.
>
> So you agree that it was a good idea for Arny to ask for proof of my
> mother-in-law's death.

So you agree that when I was asked for proof of evidence of my son's death,
the people who did it were out of place.

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> McKelvy said:
>
>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> McKelvy said:
>>>
>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things
>> that
>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> untrue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>> head
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> sand,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his
>> views
>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> audio,
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Boon
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on
>> the
>>>>>>>> record.
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
>>>>>> pedophile
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>> views on audio.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Boon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your
>>>>>>>>>> enless stream of lies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity
>>>>>>>>> with Arny's sickness, then so be it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Boon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Isn't that what you're doing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You repeat the same lies over and over
>>>>>>>> denying that they are lies?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know who the sick ones are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Implies facts not in evidence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> why don't you help him with his
>>>>>>> sickness?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Implies facts not in evidence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling
>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Boon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any
>>>>>> sickness.
>> You
>>>>>> have therefore engaged in slander.
>>>>>
>>>>> So tell us about the killer deal on computer hardware Arny gave
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Boon
>>>>
>>>> I've never purchased anything from Arny.
>>>>
>>>> Yopu might also notice that I don't respond to many of his posts.
>>>>
>>>> I also don't think he always handles every situation here with
>>>> wisdom.
>>>>
>>>> I criticise those who make up things and try to insist they are
>>>> true.
>>>
>>> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.
>>>
>>> Boon
>>
>> Still lying. Don't you have a real life?
>
> Considering that I just caught you lying about looking at the entire
> case,

You did no such thing, Phillips. Indeed you've got a little test to take
about how you looked at the entire case of how Middius abused my son's
death.

>I'd say you need to shut the **** up about now.

Typical of your abusive, obsessive fantasies, Phillips.

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Arny said:
>
>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>
>>>
>>> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.
>>
>> Marc why don't you show us how you justify your claims that I'm a
>> "proven pedophile".
>>
>> You've made this claim dozens of times under your own name.
>>
>> Where's your proof?
>
> In your fantasy world, when you wait long enough, people will forget,
> and the proof will disappear. Does that pretty much sum it up for
> you?

Phillips, this non-answer sums up my claim that you have no proof. You're
just blustering and anybody with a brain can see it.

Where's your proof that I'm a proven pedophile, Marc?

[Arny Krueger]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...

>> . The possibility that the
>> source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
Yustabe
>> or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore
>> at this point.

> You are truly one sick puppy.

> BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.

Really? That means you aren't Art Sackman.

Here's a sample post from Art Sackman on RAO from before my son's death:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc29ba%243527fc00%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
art.net

Google estimates that there are about 315 "Art Sackman" posts, all on RAO
and all before my son's death.

Here's one post of about 78 posts that google finds from Art Sackman, from
before my son's death, and that mentions me specifically:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc28f0%242f2a61a0%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
art.net

> At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts, I did
not even know of your existence.

The kiddie porn posts happened since my son's death, so this is another
claim that you aren't Art Sackman.

Thanks for admitting that you and your friends are lying about your
identity, sockpuppet Yustabe. Here's an example of a more recent post that
interestingly enough uses a very similar email address:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=sRbf8.86489%248d1.30337017%40news1.rdc 1.md
..home.com

Here's a very recent post where sockpuppet wheel calls you "Art Sackman"

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030522182138.18798.00000108%40mb-m20.
aol.com

Here's recent a post where Middius calls you "Sackman"

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bnbtovg1dr5f7u4t44urtl98jgr40f9upd%404 a
x.com

Here's a very recent post where Weil calls you "Art Sackman"

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c3dkrvcjotn4euhg1da6pu2pvnuhpkor01%404 a
x.com

Here's a recent post where Phillips calls you "Sackman"

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030625211031.00862.00001789%40mb-m18.
aol.com

<let the lying begin!>

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> McKelvy said:
>
>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Yustabe said:
>>>
>>>> you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a
>>>> lawsuit against Marc, filed by Arny.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
>>> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>>>
>>> Boon
>>
>> As I understand it being in possession of the sort of material
>> that's been described is a crime. If he had such material at any
>> time that he had downloaded he'd be in jail now.
>
> Arny himself admitting to having the material for over three years.

Wrong Phillips. I have a professional opinion that said material is not
child pornography. I had a MSP officer look at them because of your
reprehensible behavior on RAO.

[Arny Krueger]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Arny said:
>
>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>
>>> Yustabe said:
>>>
>>>> you claimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waiting for a
>>>> lawsuit against Marc, filed by Arny.
>>
>>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
>>> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>>
>> No the reason why I won't do this is that I'm not a immature crybaby
>> like sockpuppet wheeler. I realize that RAO is a disorderly place
>> and much of what is said here has zero credibility anyplace in the
>> real world.
>>
>> I'd like to see Marc produce reliable evidence the files he claims
>> exist actually exist. He should be able to provide the name of the
>> law enforcement organization and a file number. If he can't he's
>> obviously lying.
>>
>> So Marc, name the law enforcement organization and the file number,
>> or admit that you're fantasizing, again.
>
> It's funny that when we originally dealt with this matter, you were
> all too aware with what I was talking about. The you changed your
> mind and pretended you didn't know. Then you did know. And now
> today, you don't.

> Maybe you should make a diagram to keep your lies straight.

That's a non-answer if I ever saw one.

So Marc, name the law enforcement organization and the file number, or
admit that you're fantasizing, again

[Arny Krueger]

"S888Wheel" > wrote in message

> <<
>
> Exactly right. Notice that it is sockpuppet wheel who has so
> thoroughly confused RAO with real life that he is trying to take me
> to court in California over a casual remark that I have been the butt
> of dozens if not hundreds of times.
> >><BR><BR>

> I'm not trying Arny.

Sure you are trying sockpuppet wheel. Just another example of how you lie
and twist words to deceive yourself and others.

>You have been sued and you now face a default
> judgment.

You did this without raising a finger? No, you raised a finger. That means
you tried to do it.

> We will see if a judge considers posting a false
> accusation of pedophilis as "a casual remark." I find your
> characterization of this false accusation a sign of twisted moral
> values. how often do you make these kinds of "casual remarks" in your
> church?

RAO may be your church sockpuppet wheel, but RAO isn't my church, you
numskull!

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
>
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> > ...
>
> >> . The possibility that the
> >> source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
> Yustabe
> >> or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore
> >> at this point.
>
> > You are truly one sick puppy.
>
> > BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.
>
> Really? That means you aren't Art Sackman.
>
> Here's a sample post from Art Sackman on RAO from before my son's death:
>
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc29ba%243527fc00%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
> art.net
>
> Google estimates that there are about 315 "Art Sackman" posts, all on RAO
> and all before my son's death.
>
> Here's one post of about 78 posts that google finds from Art Sackman,
from
> before my son's death, and that mentions me specifically:
>
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc28f0%242f2a61a0%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
> art.net
>
> > At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts, I did
> not even know of your existence.
>
> The kiddie porn posts happened since my son's death, so this is another
> claim that you aren't Art Sackman.
>
> Thanks for admitting that you and your friends are lying about your
> identity, sockpuppet Yustabe. Here's an example of a more recent post that
> interestingly enough uses a very similar email address:
>
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=sRbf8.86489%248d1.30337017%40news1.rdc 1.md
> .home.com
>
> Here's a very recent post where sockpuppet wheel calls you "Art Sackman"
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030522182138.18798.00000108%40mb-m20.
> aol.com
>
> Here's recent a post where Middius calls you "Sackman"
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bnbtovg1dr5f7u4t44urtl98jgr40f9upd%404 a
> x.com
>
> Here's a very recent post where Weil calls you "Art Sackman"
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c3dkrvcjotn4euhg1da6pu2pvnuhpkor01%404 a
> x.com
>
> Here's a recent post where Phillips calls you "Sackman"
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030625211031.00862.00001789%40mb-m18.
> aol.com
>
> <let the lying begin!>
>
>
>
MELTDOWN!!!!!




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[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
>
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> > ...
>
> >> . The possibility that the
> >> source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
> Yustabe
> >> or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore
> >> at this point.
>
> > You are truly one sick puppy.
>
> > BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.
>
> Really? That means you aren't Art Sackman.
>
> Here's a sample post from Art Sackman on RAO from before my son's death:
>
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc29ba%243527fc00%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
> art.net
>
> Google estimates that there are about 315 "Art Sackman" posts, all on RAO
> and all before my son's death.
>
> Here's one post of about 78 posts that google finds from Art Sackman,
from
> before my son's death, and that mentions me specifically:
>
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc28f0%242f2a61a0%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
> art.net
>
> > At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts, I did
> not even know of your existence.
>
> The kiddie porn posts happened since my son's death, so this is another
> claim that you aren't Art Sackman.
>
> Thanks for admitting that you and your friends are lying about your
> identity, sockpuppet Yustabe. Here's an example of a more recent post that
> interestingly enough uses a very similar email address:
>
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=sRbf8.86489%248d1.30337017%40news1.rdc 1.md
> .home.com
>
> Here's a very recent post where sockpuppet wheel calls you "Art Sackman"
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030522182138.18798.00000108%40mb-m20.
> aol.com
>
> Here's recent a post where Middius calls you "Sackman"
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bnbtovg1dr5f7u4t44urtl98jgr40f9upd%404 a
> x.com
>
> Here's a very recent post where Weil calls you "Art Sackman"
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c3dkrvcjotn4euhg1da6pu2pvnuhpkor01%404 a
> x.com
>
> Here's a recent post where Phillips calls you "Sackman"
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030625211031.00862.00001789%40mb-m18.
> aol.com
>
> <let the lying begin!>
>

Look, Arny, I don't really know when your son died, all I know is that
whenever it happened,
I was not posting or eading RAO. There was a time when I took a long break
form USENET.
The Art Sackman posts must have been from my first USENET era. When I came
back, I
was known as idkwid, yustabe slim, and sockpuppet yustabe. These are
nicknames, no, it is not
a nefarious plot against you. Please note that when I posted as Art Sackman,
my email address
was listed as . JUST LIKE IT IS NOW!!!!!!

Ya big lovable dummy, you!!!!




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[George M. Middius]

SockY said:

> >. The possibility that the
> > source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies Yustabe
> > or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore at this
> > point.

Why does the Beast tell us his fantasies are "tasty"? I suppose he
must be "creaming" over them. As Krooger has told us, he is not
permitted to deal with serious issues that affect his family. That
duty is left to the sane members of the family, i.e. everybody else.
One can only imagine.....


Arnii: Dear, I got some emails today. I think somebody knows about
me and Nate....

Kroobitch: SHUT THE **** UP YOU DISGUSTING SICKO! DO YOU THINK I
CARE WHETHER YOU GET CAUGHT? GO TEST YOUR SOUNDCARDS, YOU FILTHY
PERVERTED CHICKENHAWK!

Arnii: Yes, dear.


> You are truly one sick puppy.
>
> BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.
> At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts,
> I did not even know of your existence.

Not true. You were fully acquainted with Mr. **** as early as
February 1997.





This post reformatted by the Resistance,
laboring tirelessly to de-Kroogerize Usenet.

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> SockY said:
>
> > >. The possibility that the
> > > source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
Yustabe
> > > or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore at
this
> > > point.
>
> Why does the Beast tell us his fantasies are "tasty"? I suppose he
> must be "creaming" over them. As Krooger has told us, he is not
> permitted to deal with serious issues that affect his family. That
> duty is left to the sane members of the family, i.e. everybody else.
> One can only imagine.....
>
>
> Arnii: Dear, I got some emails today. I think somebody knows about
> me and Nate....
>
> Kroobitch: SHUT THE **** UP YOU DISGUSTING SICKO! DO YOU THINK I
> CARE WHETHER YOU GET CAUGHT? GO TEST YOUR SOUNDCARDS, YOU FILTHY
> PERVERTED CHICKENHAWK!
>
> Arnii: Yes, dear.
>
>
> > You are truly one sick puppy.
> >
> > BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.
> > At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts,
> > I did not even know of your existence.
>
> Not true. You were fully acquainted with Mr. **** as early as
> February 1997.
>

Sorry, I thought the Arny's kddie porn rantings predated that.
I mistakenly tied his son's death and his kiddie porn rantings
as being from approxiamtely the same period.

At any rate, when that issue came up, I was not present.




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[Arny Krueger]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
>>
>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>
>>>> . The possibility that the
>>>> source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
>> Yustabe
>>>> or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore
>>>> at this point.
>>
>>> You are truly one sick puppy.
>>
>>> BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.
>>
>> Really? That means you aren't Art Sackman.
>>
>> Here's a sample post from Art Sackman on RAO from before my son's
>> death:
>>
>>
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc29ba%243527fc00%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
>> art.net
>>
>> Google estimates that there are about 315 "Art Sackman" posts, all
>> on RAO and all before my son's death.
>>
>> Here's one post of about 78 posts that google finds from Art
>> Sackman,
> from
>> before my son's death, and that mentions me specifically:
>>
>>
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc28f0%242f2a61a0%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
>> art.net
>>
>>> At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts,
>>> I did
>> not even know of your existence.
>>
>> The kiddie porn posts happened since my son's death, so this is
>> another claim that you aren't Art Sackman.
>>
>> Thanks for admitting that you and your friends are lying about your
>> identity, sockpuppet Yustabe. Here's an example of a more recent
>> post that interestingly enough uses a very similar email address:
>>
>>
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=sRbf8.86489%248d1.30337017%40news1.rdc 1.md
>> .home.com
>>
>> Here's a very recent post where sockpuppet wheel calls you "Art
>> Sackman"
>>
>>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030522182138.18798.00000108%40mb-m20.
>> aol.com
>>
>> Here's recent a post where Middius calls you "Sackman"
>>
>>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bnbtovg1dr5f7u4t44urtl98jgr40f9upd%404 a
>> x.com
>>
>> Here's a very recent post where Weil calls you "Art Sackman"
>>
>>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c3dkrvcjotn4euhg1da6pu2pvnuhpkor01%404 a
>> x.com
>>
>> Here's a recent post where Phillips calls you "Sackman"
>>
>>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030625211031.00862.00001789%40mb-m18.
>> aol.com
>>
>> <let the lying begin!>
>>
>>
>>
> MELTDOWN!!!!!

Phase one deception: dismissal.

Note that there's more to come.

[Arny Krueger]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
>>
>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>>> ...

>>>> . The possibility that the
>>>> source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
>> Yustabe
>>>> or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore
>>>> at this point.

>>> You are truly one sick puppy.

>>> BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.

Notice that when presented with incontrovertible evidence to the contrary,
Art changes his story. Kinda begs the question: "Where is the real Art
Sackman"?

>> Really? That means you aren't Art Sackman.

>> Here's a sample post from Art Sackman on RAO from before my son's
>> death:

>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc29ba%243527fc00%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
>> art.net

>> Google estimates that there are about 315 "Art Sackman" posts, all
>> on RAO and all before my son's death.

>> Here's one post of about 78 posts that google finds from Art Sackman,
>> from before my son's death, and that mentions me specifically:

>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc28f0%242f2a61a0%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
>> art.net

>>> At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts, I did
>> not even know of your existence.

Notice that when presented with incontrovertible evidence to the contrary,
Art changes his story. Kinda begs the question: "Where is the real Art
Sackman"?


>> The kiddie porn posts happened since my son's death, so this is
>> another claim that you aren't Art Sackman.

>> Thanks for admitting that you and your friends are lying about your
>> identity, sockpuppet Yustabe. Here's an example of a more recent
>> post that interestingly enough uses a very similar email address:

>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=sRbf8.86489%248d1.30337017%40news1.rdc 1.md
>> .home.com

>> Here's a very recent post where sockpuppet wheel calls you "Art
>> Sackman"

>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030522182138.18798.00000108%40mb-m20.
>> aol.com

>> Here's recent a post where Middius calls you "Sackman"
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bnbtovg1dr5f7u4t44urtl98jgr40f9upd%404 a
>> x.com

>> Here's a very recent post where Weil calls you "Art Sackman"

>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c3dkrvcjotn4euhg1da6pu2pvnuhpkor01%404 a
>> x.com

>> Here's a recent post where Phillips calls you "Sackman"

>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030625211031.00862.00001789%40mb-m18.
>> aol.com

>> <let the lying begin!>

> Look, Arny, I don't really know when your son died, all I know is that
> whenever it happened,
> I was not posting or eading RAO.

Well, I've never been "eading" RAO in my life, so of course this statement
can possibly be true.

> There was a time when I took a long break form USENET.

Right, and you were aware of it when you returned or shortly thereafter.

> The Art Sackman posts must have been from my first USENET era. When I came
back, I
> was known as idkwid, yustabe slim, and sockpuppet yustabe. These are
nicknames, no, it is not
> a nefarious plot against you. Please note that when I posted as Art
> Sackman, my email address
> was listed as . JUST LIKE IT IS NOW!!!!!!

Except that you're lying again, Art. The post of yours from 1997 on my
screen
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc2727%24d2932e00%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
art.net
says: which is not the same as .

> Ya big lovable dummy, you!!!!

Interesting "Art" to see how quickly you've changed your story when the
extent of the evidence against you sank in.

Of course, you just turned around and told another lie.

With a little work I can pull up posts showing that you were fully aware of
Middius's reprehensible behavior in this matter, and cruelly dismissed it
all as a joke. Just as you tried to do with your previous post and with a
lie in this post.

Wanna try again?

;-)

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message

> SockY said:
>
>>> . The possibility that the
>>> source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
>>> Yustabe or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just
>>> ignore at this point.
>
> Why does the Beast tell us his fantasies are "tasty"? I suppose he
> must be "creaming" over them. As Krooger has told us, he is not
> permitted to deal with serious issues that affect his family. That
> duty is left to the sane members of the family, i.e. everybody else.
> One can only imagine.....
>
>
> Arnii: Dear, I got some emails today. I think somebody knows about
> me and Nate....
>
> Kroobitch: SHUT THE **** UP YOU DISGUSTING SICKO! DO YOU THINK I
> CARE WHETHER YOU GET CAUGHT? GO TEST YOUR SOUNDCARDS, YOU FILTHY
> PERVERTED CHICKENHAWK!
>
> Arnii: Yes, dear.
>
>
>> You are truly one sick puppy.
>>
>> BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.
>> At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts,
>> I did not even know of your existence.
>
> Not true. You were fully acquainted with Mr. **** as early as
> February 1997.

Wow! Total meltdown.

[Arny Krueger]

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message

> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> SockY said:
>>
>>>> . The possibility that the
>>>> source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
> Yustabe
>>>> or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore
>>>> at
> this
>>>> point.
>>
>> Why does the Beast tell us his fantasies are "tasty"? I suppose he
>> must be "creaming" over them. As Krooger has told us, he is not
>> permitted to deal with serious issues that affect his family. That
>> duty is left to the sane members of the family, i.e. everybody else.
>> One can only imagine.....
>>
>>
>> Arnii: Dear, I got some emails today. I think somebody knows about
>> me and Nate....
>>
>> Kroobitch: SHUT THE **** UP YOU DISGUSTING SICKO! DO YOU THINK I
>> CARE WHETHER YOU GET CAUGHT? GO TEST YOUR SOUNDCARDS, YOU FILTHY
>> PERVERTED CHICKENHAWK!
>>
>> Arnii: Yes, dear.
>>
>>
>>> You are truly one sick puppy.
>>>
>>> BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.
>>> At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts,
>>> I did not even know of your existence.

>> Not true. You were fully acquainted with Mr. **** as early as
>> February 1997.

Middius blows the whistle on his good buddy, it seems

> Sorry, I thought the Arny's kddie porn rantings predated that.
> I mistakenly tied his son's death and his kiddie porn rantings
> as being from approxiamtely the same period.

I date Sackman's return to RAO as being on or about 5/29/2001

Mark Phillips and Jamie Benchimol did their kiddie porn thing in 2002.

So here is poor Yustabe caught in yet another lie.

> At any rate, when that issue came up, I was not present.

Which issue?

LOL!

[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
>
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
>
> >>>> . The possibility that the
> >>>> source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
> >> Yustabe
> >>>> or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore
> >>>> at this point.
>
> >>> You are truly one sick puppy.
>
> >>> BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.
>
> Notice that when presented with incontrovertible evidence to the contrary,
> Art changes his story. Kinda begs the question: "Where is the real Art
> Sackman"?
>
> >> Really? That means you aren't Art Sackman.
>
> >> Here's a sample post from Art Sackman on RAO from before my son's
> >> death:
>
> >
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc29ba%243527fc00%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
> >> art.net
>
> >> Google estimates that there are about 315 "Art Sackman" posts, all
> >> on RAO and all before my son's death.
>
> >> Here's one post of about 78 posts that google finds from Art Sackman,
> >> from before my son's death, and that mentions me specifically:
>
> >
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc28f0%242f2a61a0%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
> >> art.net
>
> >>> At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts, I
did
> >> not even know of your existence.
>
> Notice that when presented with incontrovertible evidence to the contrary,
> Art changes his story. Kinda begs the question: "Where is the real Art
> Sackman"?
>
>
> >> The kiddie porn posts happened since my son's death, so this is
> >> another claim that you aren't Art Sackman.
>
> >> Thanks for admitting that you and your friends are lying about your
> >> identity, sockpuppet Yustabe. Here's an example of a more recent
> >> post that interestingly enough uses a very similar email address:
>
> >
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=sRbf8.86489%248d1.30337017%40news1.rdc 1.md
> >> .home.com
>
> >> Here's a very recent post where sockpuppet wheel calls you "Art
> >> Sackman"
>
> >
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030522182138.18798.00000108%40mb-m20.
> >> aol.com
>
> >> Here's recent a post where Middius calls you "Sackman"
> >
> >
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bnbtovg1dr5f7u4t44urtl98jgr40f9upd%404 a
> >> x.com
>
> >> Here's a very recent post where Weil calls you "Art Sackman"
>
> >
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c3dkrvcjotn4euhg1da6pu2pvnuhpkor01%404 a
> >> x.com
>
> >> Here's a recent post where Phillips calls you "Sackman"
>
> >
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030625211031.00862.00001789%40mb-m18.
> >> aol.com
>
> >> <let the lying begin!>
>
> > Look, Arny, I don't really know when your son died, all I know is that
> > whenever it happened,
> > I was not posting or eading RAO.
>
> Well, I've never been "eading" RAO in my life, so of course this statement
> can possibly be true.
>
> > There was a time when I took a long break form USENET.
>
> Right, and you were aware of it when you returned or shortly thereafter.
>
> > The Art Sackman posts must have been from my first USENET era. When I
came
> back, I
> > was known as idkwid, yustabe slim, and sockpuppet yustabe. These are
> nicknames, no, it is not
> > a nefarious plot against you. Please note that when I posted as Art
> > Sackman, my email address
> > was listed as . JUST LIKE IT IS NOW!!!!!!
>
> Except that you're lying again, Art. The post of yours from 1997 on my
> screen
>
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=01bc2727%24d2932e00%24b83199ce%40idkwi d.sm
> art.net
> says: which is not the same as .
>
> > Ya big lovable dummy, you!!!!
>
> Interesting "Art" to see how quickly you've changed your story when the
> extent of the evidence against you sank in.
>
> Of course, you just turned around and told another lie.
>
> With a little work I can pull up posts showing that you were fully aware
of
> Middius's reprehensible behavior in this matter, and cruelly dismissed it
> all as a joke. Just as you tried to do with your previous post and with a
> lie in this post.
>
> Wanna try again?
>
MELTDOWN nunber 2 !!!!!!

My reactions to George's hilarious descrptption has nothng to do with
anything!!
That was after you first posted your pedophilic fantasies.
I wasn't around at that time that you were claiming to receive
pedophilic emails from aliens on Zorc!




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[Sockpuppet Yustabe]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
>

>
> > At any rate, when that issue came up, I was not present.
>
> Which issue?
>
> LOL!
>
Lordy!!!
Your presentation of forged emails allegeing to
contain kiddie porn!




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[S888Wheel]

Arny said

<<
> Exactly right. Notice that it is sockpuppet wheel who has so
> thoroughly confused RAO with real life that he is trying to take me
> to court in California over a casual remark that I have been the butt
> of dozens if not hundreds of times.


<<
> I'm not trying Arny.



Arny said


<<
Sure you are trying sockpuppet wheel. Just another example of how you lie
and twist words to deceive yourself and others.

Ridiculous. I am not tying to take you to court. I am suing you. I am trying to
get a judgment against you via default. Don't blame me for your weak
comprehension skills.

I said


<<
>You have been sued and you now face a default
> judgment.

Arny said



<<
You did this without raising a finger? No, you raised a finger. That means
you tried to do it.

Were you absent the day they taught the lesson on tense? Or should I say are
you absent the day they are teaching tense back in the days when you are going
to school? Yes I *tried* (past tense) and succeeded in suing you. Whether or
not you showed up was no concern of mine. I fully expected to win either way.

I said


<<
> We will see if a judge considers posting a false
> accusation of pedophilis as "a casual remark." I find your
> characterization of this false accusation a sign of twisted moral
> values. how often do you make these kinds of "casual remarks" in your
> church?

Arny said


<<
RAO may be your church sockpuppet wheel, but RAO isn't my church, you
numskull!


I see you don't want to answer that question for obvious reasons. It does seem
you want to invent a new fantasy though. Arny, comparing the time I spend on
RAO to the time you spend on it is a joke.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Arny said:
> >>
> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >>
> >> >> Arny said:
> >> >>
> >> >>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?
> >> >>
> >> >> Since you're a proven pedophile, you may have a different definition
> >> >> than I do.
> >> >
> >> >So that means you're not going to be accoutable for your choice of
words,
> >eh
> >> >Marc?
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what "accoutable" means. If you mean accountable, I've
> >always
> >> been accountable for every word I've said here, unlike you.
> >>
> >> "Creamed" is slang for crashed, or wiped out, as in a car. "I really
got
> >> creamed in that accident." By saying that I creamed you all over RAO,
I
> >meant
> >> that I caused you to lose control of your so-called arguments and skid
out
> >of
> >> control and crash. If you think I meant "creamed" in a sexual way, you
> >will
> >> note that it doesn't make sense that way. Since your mastery of the
> >English
> >> language is so marginal, this may be hard for you to understand.
Hence,
> >you'll
> >> assuredly come up with another lame excuse as to why you choose to live
in
> >a
> >> fantasy world.
> >>
> >That would be YOUR fantasy.
>
> So you agree that it was a good idea for Arny to ask for proof of my
> mother-in-law's death.
>
> Boon
>
Not knowing the details, I can only guess that it was probably in response
to some smarmy, vile, hurtful comments made by you and others to Arny.

There were some at the time, Middius stands out, who were absolutely
despicable.

I hope they suffer a similar pain, it would be karmic justice.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> McKelvy said:
> >>
> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things
> >that
> >> >are
> >> >> >> >> >untrue.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding
your
> >> >head
> >> >> >in
> >> >> >> >the
> >> >> >> >> >> >sand,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his
> >views
> >> >on
> >> >> >> >> >audio,
> >> >> >> >> >> >as
> >> >> >> >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is
on
> >the
> >> >> >> >record.
> >> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
> >> >> >pedophile
> >> >> >> >for
> >> >> >> >> >his
> >> >> >> >> >> views on audio.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless
> >> >stream
> >> >> >of
> >> >> >> >> >lies.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity
with
> >> >Arny's
> >> >> >> >> sickness, then so be it.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Isn't that what you're doing?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Of course not.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You repeat the same lies over and over
> >> >> >> >denying that they are lies?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Of course not.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I know who the sick ones are.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Implies facts not in evidence.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > why don't you help him with his
> >> >> >> sickness?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Implies facts not in evidence.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling
him.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >See above.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness.
> >You
> >> >> >have therefore engaged in slander.
> >> >>
> >> >> So tell us about the killer deal on computer hardware Arny gave you.
> >> >>
> >> >> Boon
> >> >
> >> >I've never purchased anything from Arny.
> >> >
> >> >Yopu might also notice that I don't respond to many of his posts.
> >> >
> >> >I also don't think he always handles every situation here with wisdom.
> >> >
> >> >I criticise those who make up things and try to insist they are true.
> >>
> >> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.
> >>
> >> Boon
> >
> >Still lying. Don't you have a real life?
>
> Considering that I just caught you lying about looking at the entire case,
I'd
> say you need to shut the **** up about now.
>
> Boon

Considering that you don't know what the **** you're talking about, I could
say the same about you.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Arny said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>
> >>
> >> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.
> >
> >Marc why don't you show us how you justify your claims that I'm a "proven
> >pedophile".
> >
> >You've made this claim dozens of times under your own name.
> >
> >Where's your proof?
>
> In your fantasy world, when you wait long enough, people will forget, and
the
> proof will disappear. Does that pretty much sum it up for you?
>
> Boon

There is no proof, only an allegation by some phantom whop claimed to be
someone called Leon North.

I hope you never get jury duty.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Arny said:
>
> >"Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
>
> >> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Yustabe said:
> >>>
> >>>> you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a
> >>>> lawsuit against Marc, filed by Arny.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
> >>> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
> >>>
> >>> Boon
> >>
> >> As I understand it being in possession of the sort of material that's
> >> been described is a crime. If he had such material at any time that
> >> he had downloaded he'd be in jail now.
> >
> >This is the real world and law enforcement officers have finite
resources.
> >I've talked to an undercover officer of the Michigan State Police about
this
> >at length in a conversation I initiated, partially as a result of Marc's
> >reprehensible online behavior.
> >
> >The typical pedophile that they target has thousands of pieces of
pedophile
> >pornography.
> >
> >What you hear said about Michael Jackson appears to be true - pedophiles
> >strongly tend to be repeat offenders. There isn't just one child, and
there
> >isn't just one piece of pornography or even just a small number thereof.
> >
> >There's no way the MSP would try to make a case based on just one piece
of
> >kiddie porn. Too risky because the rules of evidence with respect to
child
> >porn are fuzzy, and of course they have much bigger fish to fry. The hot
> >buttons w/r/t pedophiles are chat rooms and the like.
> >
> >Marc Phillips might be a good target for the California law enforcement
> >officials because he likes to initiate so many discussions about child
> >pornography. Marc's comments on RAO just scream "Send me kiddie porn
> >because I Marc Phillips obsess over it".
> >
> >In contrast, my comments indicate that I hate kiddie porn, and know how
to
> >get the MSP involved if anybody tries to send me some. The phone number
of
> >that MSP undercover officer is in my auto-dialer. The possibility that
the
> >source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
Yustabe
> >or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore at
this
> >point.
>
> Again, more fantasy. What a wonderful, carefree world you live in,
pervert.
>
> Boon

It's a much more logical scenario than the one you're trying to sell.

[tor 2 u]

Michael Mckelvy wrote in message >:


(I snipped all that stuff because it's boring.)


> I've never purchased anything from Arny.
>

You should buy something. Arny gives a warranty.


> Yopu might also notice that I don't respond to many of his posts.
>
> I also don't think he always handles every situation here with wisdom.
>
> I criticise those who make up things and try to insist they are true.
>
Don't you mean you criticize some of those who do that stuff? Arny has been
lying his ass off for years and you never say a word.



Arny is My Kroo-Daddy

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> Arny said:
>>
>> >"Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>> Yustabe said:
>> >>>
>> >>>> you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a
>> >>>> lawsuit against Marc, filed by Arny.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
>> >>> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>> >>>
>> >>> Boon
>> >>
>> >> As I understand it being in possession of the sort of material that's
>> >> been described is a crime. If he had such material at any time that
>> >> he had downloaded he'd be in jail now.
>> >
>> >This is the real world and law enforcement officers have finite
>resources.
>> >I've talked to an undercover officer of the Michigan State Police about
>this
>> >at length in a conversation I initiated, partially as a result of Marc's
>> >reprehensible online behavior.
>> >
>> >The typical pedophile that they target has thousands of pieces of
>pedophile
>> >pornography.
>> >
>> >What you hear said about Michael Jackson appears to be true - pedophiles
>> >strongly tend to be repeat offenders. There isn't just one child, and
>there
>> >isn't just one piece of pornography or even just a small number thereof.
>> >
>> >There's no way the MSP would try to make a case based on just one piece
>of
>> >kiddie porn. Too risky because the rules of evidence with respect to
>child
>> >porn are fuzzy, and of course they have much bigger fish to fry. The hot
>> >buttons w/r/t pedophiles are chat rooms and the like.
>> >
>> >Marc Phillips might be a good target for the California law enforcement
>> >officials because he likes to initiate so many discussions about child
>> >pornography. Marc's comments on RAO just scream "Send me kiddie porn
>> >because I Marc Phillips obsess over it".
>> >
>> >In contrast, my comments indicate that I hate kiddie porn, and know how
>to
>> >get the MSP involved if anybody tries to send me some. The phone number
>of
>> >that MSP undercover officer is in my auto-dialer. The possibility that
>the
>> >source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
>Yustabe
>> >or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore at
>this
>> >point.
>>
>> Again, more fantasy. What a wonderful, carefree world you live in,
>pervert.
>>
>> Boon
>
>It's a much more logical scenario than the one you're trying to sell.

The problem is that I'm not trying to sell anything.

Actually, the problem is that you lied to everyone when you said that you had
looked at all the evidence, and you didn't. You didn't know that the whole
problem escalated when Arny said that he had kept the pics stored in his hard
drive for three years. That was the flash point for the entire incident, and
if you had looked at the evidence, that would have been the first thing you
would have noticed.

Stick a fork in yourself, McKelvy. You're done. You're toast. You've been
caught lying in order to protect a pedophile. Your credibility is shot, and
your reputation soiled. At least have the dignity to slink away without
trying, Arny-like, to twist your huge gaffe into something else by lying some
more.

I'm sick of disgusting sick pukes like you and Arny. Really sick.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>There is no proof, only an allegation by some

Dude, you blew it. You ****ed up. Now shut up and go away.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> McKelvy said:
>>
>> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Arny said:
>> >>
>> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> >> Arny said:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Since you're a proven pedophile, you may have a different definition
>> >> >> than I do.
>> >> >
>> >> >So that means you're not going to be accoutable for your choice of
>words,
>> >eh
>> >> >Marc?
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure what "accoutable" means. If you mean accountable, I've
>> >always
>> >> been accountable for every word I've said here, unlike you.
>> >>
>> >> "Creamed" is slang for crashed, or wiped out, as in a car. "I really
>got
>> >> creamed in that accident." By saying that I creamed you all over RAO,
>I
>> >meant
>> >> that I caused you to lose control of your so-called arguments and skid
>out
>> >of
>> >> control and crash. If you think I meant "creamed" in a sexual way, you
>> >will
>> >> note that it doesn't make sense that way. Since your mastery of the
>> >English
>> >> language is so marginal, this may be hard for you to understand.
>Hence,
>> >you'll
>> >> assuredly come up with another lame excuse as to why you choose to live
>in
>> >a
>> >> fantasy world.
>> >>
>> >That would be YOUR fantasy.
>>
>> So you agree that it was a good idea for Arny to ask for proof of my
>> mother-in-law's death.
>>
>> Boon
>>
>Not knowing the details, I can only guess that it was probably in response
>to some smarmy, vile, hurtful comments made by you and others to Arny.
>
>There were some at the time, Middius stands out, who were absolutely
>despicable.
>
>I hope they suffer a similar pain, it would be karmic justice.

In other words, you're going to blindly align yourself with Arny without
actually looking at the posts.

That's what you're going to be remembered for on this newsgroup from now on.
Lying to protect a known pedophile.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> McKelvy said:
>>
>> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> McKelvy said:
>> >>
>> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things
>> >that
>> >> >are
>> >> >> >> >> >untrue.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding
>your
>> >> >head
>> >> >> >in
>> >> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >sand,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his
>> >views
>> >> >on
>> >> >> >> >> >audio,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Boon
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is
>on
>> >the
>> >> >> >> >record.
>> >> >> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
>> >> >> >pedophile
>> >> >> >> >for
>> >> >> >> >> >his
>> >> >> >> >> >> views on audio.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Boon
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless
>> >> >stream
>> >> >> >of
>> >> >> >> >> >lies.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity
>with
>> >> >Arny's
>> >> >> >> >> sickness, then so be it.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Boon
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Isn't that what you're doing?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Of course not.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You repeat the same lies over and over
>> >> >> >> >denying that they are lies?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Of course not.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >I know who the sick ones are.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Implies facts not in evidence.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > why don't you help him with his
>> >> >> >> sickness?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Implies facts not in evidence.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling
>him.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >See above.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Boon
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any sickness.
>> >You
>> >> >> >have therefore engaged in slander.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So tell us about the killer deal on computer hardware Arny gave you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Boon
>> >> >
>> >> >I've never purchased anything from Arny.
>> >> >
>> >> >Yopu might also notice that I don't respond to many of his posts.
>> >> >
>> >> >I also don't think he always handles every situation here with wisdom.
>> >> >
>> >> >I criticise those who make up things and try to insist they are true.
>> >>
>> >> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.
>> >>
>> >> Boon
>> >
>> >Still lying. Don't you have a real life?
>>
>> Considering that I just caught you lying about looking at the entire case,
>I'd
>> say you need to shut the **** up about now.
>>
>> Boon
>
>Considering that you don't know what the **** you're talking about, I could
>say the same about you.

Is that going to be your strategy? Pretending it all didn't happen?
Great...another Internet pussy clings onto a newsgroup because he has nowhere
else to go.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Yustabe said:

>"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>>. The possibility that the
>> source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
>Yustabe
>> or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore at this
>> point.
>>
>>
>
>You are truly one sick puppy.
>
>BTW, I have neither read, nor posted to, RAO that far back.
>At the time of your kiddie porno (so called) email related posts,
>I did not even know of your existence.

The same goes for me, which goes a way toward explaining why Arny is suddenly
interested in Usenet posts from someone else named Marc Phillips from a long
time ago. I didn't even own a computer until 1998.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> McKelvy said:
>>
>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Arny said:
>>>>
>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> Arny said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since you're a proven pedophile, you may have a different
>>>>>> definition than I do.
>>>>>
>>>>> So that means you're not going to be accoutable for your choice of
>>>>> words, eh Marc?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what "accoutable" means. If you mean accountable,
>>>> I've always been accountable for every word I've said here, unlike
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> "Creamed" is slang for crashed, or wiped out, as in a car. "I
>>>> really got creamed in that accident." By saying that I creamed you
>>>> all over RAO, I meant that I caused you to lose control of your
>>>> so-called arguments and skid out of control and crash. If you
>>>> think I meant "creamed" in a sexual way, you will note that it
>>>> doesn't make sense that way. Since your mastery of the English
>>>> language is so marginal, this may be hard for you to understand.
>>>> Hence, you'll assuredly come up with another lame excuse as to why
>>>> you choose to live in a fantasy world.
>>>>
>>> That would be YOUR fantasy.
>>
>> So you agree that it was a good idea for Arny to ask for proof of my
>> mother-in-law's death.
>
>So you agree that when I was asked for proof of evidence of my son's death,
>the people who did it were out of place.

I have never seen anyone ask you for proof of your son's death. I do remember
that when you announced your son's passing on RAO, Greg Singh was the first to
offer you heartfelt condolences, and George wasn't far behind.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> McKelvy said:
>>
>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>
>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McKelvy said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things
>>> that
>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> untrue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>> head
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sand,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrongly believing that this has something to do with his
>>> views
>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> audio,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really should wake the **** up one day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Boon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> record.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known
>>>>>>> pedophile
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>> views on audio.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Boon
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your
>>>>>>>>>>> enless stream of lies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity
>>>>>>>>>> with Arny's sickness, then so be it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Boon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Isn't that what you're doing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You repeat the same lies over and over
>>>>>>>>> denying that they are lies?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know who the sick ones are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Implies facts not in evidence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> why don't you help him with his
>>>>>>>> sickness?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Implies facts not in evidence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling
>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Boon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any
>>>>>>> sickness.
>>> You
>>>>>>> have therefore engaged in slander.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So tell us about the killer deal on computer hardware Arny gave
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Boon
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never purchased anything from Arny.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yopu might also notice that I don't respond to many of his posts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also don't think he always handles every situation here with
>>>>> wisdom.
>>>>>
>>>>> I criticise those who make up things and try to insist they are
>>>>> true.
>>>>
>>>> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.
>>>>
>>>> Boon
>>>
>>> Still lying. Don't you have a real life?
>>
>> Considering that I just caught you lying about looking at the entire
>> case,
>
>You did no such thing, Phillips. Indeed you've got a little test to take
>about how you looked at the entire case of how Middius abused my son's
>death.
>
>>I'd say you need to shut the **** up about now.
>
>Typical of your abusive, obsessive fantasies, Phillips.

You're not making any sense here. I'm starting to think that discussing Nate's
passing is really upsetting you to the point where you're becoming incredibly
irrational. If that is the case, I'd rather stop talking about the whole thing.

McKelvy, however, is not off the hook for lying.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Arny said:
>>
>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.
>>>
>>> Marc why don't you show us how you justify your claims that I'm a
>>> "proven pedophile".
>>>
>>> You've made this claim dozens of times under your own name.
>>>
>>> Where's your proof?
>>
>> In your fantasy world, when you wait long enough, people will forget,
>> and the proof will disappear. Does that pretty much sum it up for
>> you?
>
>Phillips, this non-answer sums up my claim that you have no proof. You're
>just blustering and anybody with a brain can see it.
>
>Where's your proof that I'm a proven pedophile, Marc?

You know, when I post the proof, you say I'm obsessed with pedophilia. And
when I don't, the proof doesn't exist.

Who do you think you're fooling?

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> McKelvy said:
>>
>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Yustabe said:
>>>>
>>>>> you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a
>>>>> lawsuit against Marc, filed by Arny.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
>>>> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>>>>
>>>> Boon
>>>
>>> As I understand it being in possession of the sort of material
>>> that's been described is a crime. If he had such material at any
>>> time that he had downloaded he'd be in jail now.
>>
>> Arny himself admitting to having the material for over three years.
>
>Wrong Phillips. I have a professional opinion that said material is not
>child pornography. I had a MSP officer look at them because of your
>reprehensible behavior on RAO.

Prove it!

After all, there is no record of the MSP having contacted you, but there is a
record with your local PD of having received SEVERAL complaints about you.

Check it out for yourself. Oh, wait, I'm sure you already have. That explains
my "reprehensible behavior on RAO," doesn't it.

Boon

[George M. Middius]

Marc Phillips said to ****-for-Brains:

> I have never seen anyone ask you for proof of your son's death. I do remember
> that when you announced your son's passing on RAO, Greg Singh was the first to
> offer you heartfelt condolences, and George wasn't far behind.

That was before I knew Turdy secretly harbored sexual desires for
Nate. In light of Krooger's horrid confession, one might reasonably
wonder how bad the kid had it.

[Marc Phillips]

Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Arny said:
>>
>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Yustabe said:
>>>>
>>>>> you claimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waiting for a
>>>>> lawsuit against Marc, filed by Arny.
>>>
>>>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
>>>> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
>>>
>>> No the reason why I won't do this is that I'm not a immature crybaby
>>> like sockpuppet wheeler. I realize that RAO is a disorderly place
>>> and much of what is said here has zero credibility anyplace in the
>>> real world.
>>>
>>> I'd like to see Marc produce reliable evidence the files he claims
>>> exist actually exist. He should be able to provide the name of the
>>> law enforcement organization and a file number. If he can't he's
>>> obviously lying.
>>>
>>> So Marc, name the law enforcement organization and the file number,
>>> or admit that you're fantasizing, again.
>>
>> It's funny that when we originally dealt with this matter, you were
>> all too aware with what I was talking about. The you changed your
>> mind and pretended you didn't know. Then you did know. And now
>> today, you don't.
>
>> Maybe you should make a diagram to keep your lies straight.
>
>That's a non-answer if I ever saw one.
>
>So Marc, name the law enforcement organization and the file number, or
>admit that you're fantasizing, again

I posted the entire e-mail I received from James Fowler of the Grosse Pointe
Woods PD right here on RAO at least twice. You denied its authenticity. So,
in your fantasy world, it must not exist. But in the real world, well, you
have a file at your local PD, and they're watching you. Beyond that, I have no
idea, because it's not their policy to publicly announce every move they make
in an investigation.

Remember, Det. Fowler told me that mine was not the only complaint.

Boon

[George M. Middius]

Marc Phillips said to PedoBorg:

> You know, when I post the proof, you say I'm obsessed with pedophilia. And
> when I don't, the proof doesn't exist.
>
> Who do you think you're fooling?

I can answer that. So far, he's fooled duh-Mikey, Lionella la
Salope, and The Thing. Quite a brain trust, note. ;-)

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> McKelvy said:
> >>
> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Arny said:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Arny said:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> "Wow. The Porkster just creamed Arny all over RAO.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Exactly what do you mean by the word "creamed", Marc?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Since you're a proven pedophile, you may have a different
definition
> >> >> >> than I do.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >So that means you're not going to be accoutable for your choice of
> >words,
> >> >eh
> >> >> >Marc?
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not sure what "accoutable" means. If you mean accountable, I've
> >> >always
> >> >> been accountable for every word I've said here, unlike you.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Creamed" is slang for crashed, or wiped out, as in a car. "I
really
> >got
> >> >> creamed in that accident." By saying that I creamed you all over
RAO,
> >I
> >> >meant
> >> >> that I caused you to lose control of your so-called arguments and
skid
> >out
> >> >of
> >> >> control and crash. If you think I meant "creamed" in a sexual way,
you
> >> >will
> >> >> note that it doesn't make sense that way. Since your mastery of the
> >> >English
> >> >> language is so marginal, this may be hard for you to understand.
> >Hence,
> >> >you'll
> >> >> assuredly come up with another lame excuse as to why you choose to
live
> >in
> >> >a
> >> >> fantasy world.
> >> >>
> >> >That would be YOUR fantasy.
> >>
> >> So you agree that it was a good idea for Arny to ask for proof of my
> >> mother-in-law's death.
> >>
> >> Boon
> >>
> >Not knowing the details, I can only guess that it was probably in
response
> >to some smarmy, vile, hurtful comments made by you and others to Arny.
> >
> >There were some at the time, Middius stands out, who were absolutely
> >despicable.
> >
> >I hope they suffer a similar pain, it would be karmic justice.
>
> In other words, you're going to blindly align yourself with Arny without
> actually looking at the posts.
>
No, I'm going to go with history until actual evidence to the contrary comes
to light.

> That's what you're going to be remembered for on this newsgroup from now
on.
> Lying to protect a known pedophile.
>
As opposed to you lying that someone is a pedophile?
I'm not worried about how I'm remembered amongst the least objective gang of
thugs on usenet.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> McKelvy said:
> >>
> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> McKelvy said:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of
things
> >> >that
> >> >> >are
> >> >> >> >> >> >untrue.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The fact that he really did do them, and you're
hiding
> >your
> >> >> >head
> >> >> >> >in
> >> >> >> >> >the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >sand,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrongly believing that this has something to do with
his
> >> >views
> >> >> >on
> >> >> >> >> >> >audio,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >as
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You really should wake the **** up one day.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what
is
> >on
> >> >the
> >> >> >> >> >record.
> >> >> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >> >> >> didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of
it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a
known
> >> >> >> >pedophile
> >> >> >> >> >for
> >> >> >> >> >> >his
> >> >> >> >> >> >> views on audio.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your
enless
> >> >> >stream
> >> >> >> >of
> >> >> >> >> >> >lies.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity
> >with
> >> >> >Arny's
> >> >> >> >> >> sickness, then so be it.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Isn't that what you're doing?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Of course not.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You repeat the same lies over and over
> >> >> >> >> >denying that they are lies?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Of course not.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >I know who the sick ones are.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> So if you're such a good friend of Arny's,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Implies facts not in evidence.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > why don't you help him with his
> >> >> >> >> sickness?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Implies facts not in evidence.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > By denying that his sick behavior exists, you're only enabling
> >him.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >See above.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >You've produced no facts to demonstrate that Arny has any
sickness.
> >> >You
> >> >> >> >have therefore engaged in slander.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So tell us about the killer deal on computer hardware Arny gave
you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Boon
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I've never purchased anything from Arny.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Yopu might also notice that I don't respond to many of his posts.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I also don't think he always handles every situation here with
wisdom.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I criticise those who make up things and try to insist they are
true.
> >> >>
> >> >> That's what Arny does. That's not what I do.
> >> >>
> >> >> Boon
> >> >
> >> >Still lying. Don't you have a real life?
> >>
> >> Considering that I just caught you lying about looking at the entire
case,
> >I'd
> >> say you need to shut the **** up about now.
> >>
> >> Boon
> >
> >Considering that you don't know what the **** you're talking about, I
could
> >say the same about you.
>
> Is that going to be your strategy? Pretending it all didn't happen?

I'm just not pretending that something was proven when it was not.

> Great...another Internet pussy clings onto a newsgroup because he has
nowhere
> else to go.
>
So leave, pussy.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >There is no proof, only an allegation by some
>
> Dude, you blew it. You ****ed up. Now shut up and go away.
>
> Boon

Yeah, right. That'll happen.

Keep lying though, it will at least make you consistent.

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Arny said:
> >>
> >> >"Michael Mckelvy" > wrote in message
> >>
> >> >> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >>> Yustabe said:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> you clalimed that Marc slandered Arny, so we are waitng for a
> >> >>>> lawsuit against Marc, filed by Arny.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The reason Arny won't do this is because the local law enforcement
> >> >>> already has a file on him in regards to his pedophilia.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Boon
> >> >>
> >> >> As I understand it being in possession of the sort of material
that's
> >> >> been described is a crime. If he had such material at any time that
> >> >> he had downloaded he'd be in jail now.
> >> >
> >> >This is the real world and law enforcement officers have finite
> >resources.
> >> >I've talked to an undercover officer of the Michigan State Police
about
> >this
> >> >at length in a conversation I initiated, partially as a result of
Marc's
> >> >reprehensible online behavior.
> >> >
> >> >The typical pedophile that they target has thousands of pieces of
> >pedophile
> >> >pornography.
> >> >
> >> >What you hear said about Michael Jackson appears to be true -
pedophiles
> >> >strongly tend to be repeat offenders. There isn't just one child, and
> >there
> >> >isn't just one piece of pornography or even just a small number
thereof.
> >> >
> >> >There's no way the MSP would try to make a case based on just one
piece
> >of
> >> >kiddie porn. Too risky because the rules of evidence with respect to
> >child
> >> >porn are fuzzy, and of course they have much bigger fish to fry. The
hot
> >> >buttons w/r/t pedophiles are chat rooms and the like.
> >> >
> >> >Marc Phillips might be a good target for the California law
enforcement
> >> >officials because he likes to initiate so many discussions about child
> >> >pornography. Marc's comments on RAO just scream "Send me kiddie porn
> >> >because I Marc Phillips obsess over it".
> >> >
> >> >In contrast, my comments indicate that I hate kiddie porn, and know
how
> >to
> >> >get the MSP involved if anybody tries to send me some. The phone
number
> >of
> >> >that MSP undercover officer is in my auto-dialer. The possibility that
> >the
> >> >source of the porno email would be someone like Marc or his buddies
> >Yustabe
> >> >or Middius is way too tasty of a proposition for me to just ignore at
> >this
> >> >point.
> >>
> >> Again, more fantasy. What a wonderful, carefree world you live in,
> >pervert.
> >>
> >> Boon
> >
> >It's a much more logical scenario than the one you're trying to sell.
>
> The problem is that I'm not trying to sell anything.
>
> Actually, the problem is that you lied to everyone when you said that you
had
> looked at all the evidence, and you didn't. You didn't know that the
whole
> problem escalated when Arny said that he had kept the pics stored in his
hard
> drive for three years.

But I did know that detail, I unlike you have lied about nothing.

That was the flash point for the entire incident, and
> if you had looked at the evidence, that would have been the first thing
you
> would have noticed.
>

The first thing I noticed was a smear campaign, again.

> Stick a fork in yourself, McKelvy. You're done. You're toast. You've
been
> caught lying in order to protect a pedophile.

Go **** yourself, you don't know ****. I read the whole ****ing thing and
one thing is very clear, you have a hate filled agenda.

Your credibility is shot, and
> your reputation soiled.

That still keeps me head and shoulders above you.

At least have the dignity to slink away without
> trying, Arny-like, to twist your huge gaffe into something else by lying
some
> more.
>
How about you just admitting that you are prepared to take the least amount
of "proof" and spin it to make somebody whom you don't like look as bad as
possible.

> I'm sick of disgusting sick pukes like you and Arny. Really sick.
>
> Boon

The go the **** away, and stop your masochistic little rants. You fool
nobody, except maybe yourself.

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>I'm going to go with history until actual evidence to the contrary comes...

Dude, you blew it. You lied. You are excused.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>I'm just not pretending that something was proven when...

Dude, you blew it. You lied. You are excused.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>Keep lying though, it will at least make...

Dude, you blew it. You lied. You are excused.

Boon

[Marc Phillips]

McKelvy said:

>But I did know that detail, I unlike you have lied...

Dude, you blew it. You lied. You are excused.

Boon

[tor b]

(Marc Phillips) wrote in message >...

<snip>

Arny Krueger wrote:

> >So you agree that when I was asked for proof of evidence of my son's death,
> >the people who did it were out of place.
>
"Porky" Phillips lied:
>
> I have never seen anyone ask you for proof of your son's death. I do remember
> that when you announced your son's passing on RAO, Greg Singh was the first to
> offer you heartfelt condolences, and George wasn't far behind.
>


Here is an example of Singh's "heartfelt condolences":

http://tinyurl.com/x30m

Begin quote:

>And I still find the cause of death questionable, btw.

End quote

I guess that passes for "heartfelt condolences" amongst a band of
usenet thugs such as Singh, Middius and "Porky" Phillips!

[Michael Mckelvy]

"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> McKelvy said:
>
> >But I did know that detail, I unlike you have lied...
>
> Dude, you blew it. You lied. You are excused.
>
> >
>
Dude, you proved nothing. You are without excuse.

[Marc Phillips]

Richard Malesweski said:



(Marc Phillips) wrote in message
>...
>
><snip>
>
>Arny Krueger wrote:
>
>> >So you agree that when I was asked for proof of evidence of my son's
>death,
>> >the people who did it were out of place.
>>
>"Porky" Phillips lied:
>>
>> I have never seen anyone ask you for proof of your son's death. I do
>remember
>> that when you announced your son's passing on RAO, Greg Singh was the first
>to
>> offer you heartfelt condolences, and George wasn't far behind.
>>
>
>
>Here is an example of Singh's "heartfelt condolences":
>
>http://tinyurl.com/x30m
>
>Begin quote:
>
>>And I still find the cause of death questionable, btw.
>
>End quote
>
>I guess that passes for "heartfelt condolences" amongst a band of
>usenet thugs such as Singh, Middius and "Porky" Phillips!

Is that the post I was referring to, dickless? No, it wasn't. Why don't you
go back to Arny's original post about Nate, and then see who is the first to
respond.

In other words, I just caught YOU in a lie. You Kroopologists are such ****ing
idiots, really.

Boon