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Ironic that Sanders previously said:

Message-ID:

" I happen to hail from a generation that led me to become very involved in
.... the anti-Vietnam War movement of the 60's and 70's, and my politics back
then were far to the left of Maxine Waters."

IOW Sanders wasn't exactly breaking down doors to join the Army during the
Vietnam era, either. FWIW I served in the Army during the Vietnam era.

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Ironic that Sanders previously said:

Message-ID:

" I happen to hail from a generation that led me to become very involved
in
... the anti-Vietnam War movement of the 60's and 70's, and my politics
back
then were far to the left of Maxine Waters."

IOW Sanders wasn't exactly breaking down doors to join the Army during the
Vietnam era, either. FWIW I served in the Army during the Vietnam era.

Now I understand!
Your job must have been maintaining the company's Zenith Trans Oceanics
radios.

But I don't understand how it turned you into a ***BAD SCIENTIST***
or why the stress would cause you to flip out and accuse Scott Wheeler of
being a rapist.

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Interesting they use RED for their pages.

Not so interesting is that their premise is false. If the airwaves have
been taken over by the right wingers, it's only because they get an
audience. Without one their would be no right wing talk shows.

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http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html

Ironic that Sanders previously said:

Message-ID:

" I happen to hail from a generation that led me to become very involved
in
... the anti-Vietnam War movement of the 60's and 70's, and my politics
back
then were far to the left of Maxine Waters."

And he has no shame over that? Perhaps he's not aware that Maxine Waters is
INSANE.

IOW Sanders wasn't exactly breaking down doors to join the Army during the
Vietnam era, either. FWIW I served in the Army during the Vietnam era.

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http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html

Ironic that Sanders previously said:

Message-ID:

" I happen to hail from a generation that led me to become very involved
in
... the anti-Vietnam War movement of the 60's and 70's, and my politics
back
then were far to the left of Maxine Waters."

IOW Sanders wasn't exactly breaking down doors to join the Army during
the
Vietnam era, either. FWIW I served in the Army during the Vietnam era.

Now I understand!
Your job must have been maintaining the company's Zenith Trans Oceanics
radios.

But I don't understand how it turned you into a ***BAD SCIENTIST***

How did you into a non-scientist?

or why the stress would cause you to flip out and accuse Scott Wheeler of
being a rapist.


What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.

Is it that you have no scientific crediblity at all that makes you repeat
the same lie?

How big was that telescope?

Bugeater chokes on his diet of Rupert Murdock/Rush Limbaugh pabulum:

"Michael Mckelvy" wrote in message
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Interesting they use RED for their pages.

Not so interesting is that their premise is false. If the airwaves have
been taken over by the right wingers, it's only because they get an
audience. Without one their would be no right wing talk shows.

"Sandman" wrote in message
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Bugeater chokes on his diet of Rupert Murdock/Rush Limbaugh pabulum:

I notice you don't deny what I said. Without an audience, right wing talk
shows would be gone in a heartbeat.

"Michael Mckelvy" wrote in message
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"Sandman" wrote in message
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Interesting they use RED for their pages.

Not so interesting is that their premise is false. If the airwaves have
been taken over by the right wingers, it's only because they get an
audience. Without one their would be no right wing talk shows.

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"Sandman" wrote in message
...
Bugeater chokes on his diet of Rupert Murdock/Rush Limbaugh pabulum:

I notice you don't deny what I said. Without an audience, right wing
talk shows would be gone in a heartbeat.

Enough of that free market talk!

In Sanders' ideal managed marketplace, people would be made to listen to
what he thinks is good for them! If it was good enough for Joseph Stalin,
it's good enough for Sanders and people of his mindset.

McKelvy said:

Perhaps he's not aware that Maxine Waters is
INSANE.


And yet she wins her elections by getting as much as 85% of the vote. I guess
all of her constituents must be insane, too.

Boon

McKelvy said:

What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.

The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in the sand,
wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on audio, as
opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.

You really should wake the **** up one day.

Boon

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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McKelvy said:

What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.

The fact that he really did do them,

Where's your proof that I'm a pedophile, Phillips?

There isn't any.

In contrast the google record RAO is covered with proof of your pedophile
fantasies.


and you're hiding your head in the sand,
wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on audio,
as
opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.

Phillips, how could anything be more disgusting than your lengthy history
of lying, dissembling, deceiving, and libeling?

You really should wake the **** up one day.


See what I mean?

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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McKelvy said:

What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.

The fact that he really did do them,

Where's your proof that I'm a pedophile, Phillips?

There isn't any.

In contrast the google record RAO is covered with proof of your pedophile
fantasies.


and you're hiding your head in the sand,
wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on audio,
as
opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.

Phillips, how could anything be more disgusting than your lengthy history
of lying, dissembling, deceiving, and libeling?

You really should wake the **** up one day.


See what I mean?

No, I don't see what you mean. That's because you are a proven pathological
liar, and your complete dissolution into your own fantasy world isn't
understandable to normal human beings.

You keep saying that I lie, dissemble, deceive and libel, yet NOT ONCE have you
backed this up with any evidence. We've been over this many, many times
before, and you've failed every time. Actually, you run and hide, because you
are the biggest pussy in the history of Usenet.

Boon

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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McKelvy said:

What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
untrue.

The fact that he really did do them,

Where's your proof that I'm a pedophile, Phillips?

There isn't any.

In contrast the google record RAO is covered with proof of your
pedophile fantasies.


and you're hiding your head in the sand,
wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
audio,
as
opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.

Phillips, how could anything be more disgusting than your lengthy
history of lying, dissembling, deceiving, and libeling?

You really should wake the **** up one day.

See what I mean?

No, I don't see what you mean.

Inability to perceive your own reprehensible behavior noted, Phillips.

That's because you are a proven pathological liar,

Where's that proof, Phillips?

and your complete dissolution into your own
fantasy world isn't understandable to normal human beings.

Letsee, and the world in which you live where I'm a

From: (Marc Phillips)
Message-ID:

"...proven pedophile..."

to quote you Phillips, isn't a fantasy world?

If it isn't a fantasy world Phillips, prove that I'm a pedphile.

You keep saying that I lie, dissemble, deceive and libel, yet NOT
ONCE have you backed this up with any evidence.

Just prove that I'm a pedophile, Phillips. That requires a criminal
conviction in a court of law, so you should be able to give us a time, date
and court where that happened. Failing that, it would be you Marc Phillips
who live in a fantasy world.

We've been over this
many, many times before, and you've failed every time.

Just prove, here and now that I'm a convicted pedophile, Marc Phillips. I
you fail to do that, then it is you that lives in a fantasy world.

Actually, you run and hide, because you are the biggest pussy in the
history of Usenet.

Prove that too Philips. I believe that a statement from a gynecologist will
do.

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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McKelvy said:

Perhaps he's not aware that Maxine Waters is
INSANE.


And yet she wins her elections by getting as much as 85% of the vote. I
guess
all of her constituents must be insane, too.


She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite' for
another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that district.




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Yustabe said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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McKelvy said:

Perhaps he's not aware that Maxine Waters is
INSANE.


And yet she wins her elections by getting as much as 85% of the vote. I
guess
all of her constituents must be insane, too.


She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite' for
another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that district.

I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling her
"insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she does her job
and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she belongs to.

Boon

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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McKelvy said:

What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
untrue.

The fact that he really did do them,

Where's your proof that I'm a pedophile, Phillips?

There isn't any.

In contrast the google record RAO is covered with proof of your
pedophile fantasies.


and you're hiding your head in the sand,
wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
audio,
as
opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.

Phillips, how could anything be more disgusting than your lengthy
history of lying, dissembling, deceiving, and libeling?

You really should wake the **** up one day.

See what I mean?

No, I don't see what you mean.

Inability to perceive your own reprehensible behavior noted, Phillips.

Noted, in fact, from a known pathological liar, hypocrite and pedophile. In
other words, your comment is meaningless, other than once again showing your
shortcomings when it comes to communicating in English.

That's because you are a proven pathological liar,

Where's that proof, Phillips?

I've proved it many, many times before. It doesn't matter if I do it once
more, because you'll simply deny it. You are incapable of admitting when
you're wrong, and you've never admitted to a lie, even when the evidence is
overwhelming. That is because you are mentally ill.

But once again I can prove that you're a liar by merely mentioning all of the
times you've called me a liar and have been unable to prove it.


and your complete dissolution into your own
fantasy world isn't understandable to normal human beings.

Letsee, and the world in which you live where I'm a

From: (Marc Phillips)
Message-ID:

"...proven pedophile..."

to quote you Phillips, isn't a fantasy world?

No, it isn't. Describing the act of fondling your dead teenaged son in his
coffin to a bunch of strangers on the Internet, something that is factual,
qualifies you as a pedophile.


If it isn't a fantasy world Phillips, prove that I'm a pedphile.

I just did.


You keep saying that I lie, dissemble, deceive and libel, yet NOT
ONCE have you backed this up with any evidence.

Just prove that I'm a pedophile, Phillips.

I just did.

That requires a criminal
conviction in a court of law, so you should be able to give us a time, date
and court where that happened.

Wrong. What you are describing is a "convicted" pedophile. What you are
basically saying is that one cannot be pedophile unless they have been arrested
and convicted. That is incorrect.

Failing that, it would be you Marc Phillips
who live in a fantasy world.

Good thing I succeeded.

We've been over this
many, many times before, and you've failed every time.

Just prove, here and now that I'm a convicted pedophile, Marc Phillips. I
you fail to do that, then it is you that lives in a fantasy world.

I just did.

Actually, you run and hide, because you are the biggest pussy in the
history of Usenet.

Prove that too Philips. I believe that a statement from a gynecologist will
do.

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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Yustabe said:


She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite' for
another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
district.

I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling her
"insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she does
her job
and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she belongs
to.


What matters is the lack of choice.




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"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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McKelvy said:

What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.

The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in the
sand,
wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on audio,
as
opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.

You really should wake the **** up one day.

Boon

You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.

McKelvy said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
McKelvy said:

What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are untrue.

The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in the
sand,
wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on audio,
as
opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.

You really should wake the **** up one day.

Boon

You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.

It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the record. I
didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.

You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known pedophile for his
views on audio.

Boon

Yustabe said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Yustabe said:


She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite' for
another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
district.

I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling her
"insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she does
her job
and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she belongs
to.


What matters is the lack of choice.

True, although I think that if Maxine Waters was truly insane, there'd be a
choice in a heartbeat. Even Ted Kennedy came close to losing his last
election.

Boon

Arny said:

Actually, you run and hide, because you are the biggest pussy in the
history of Usenet.

Prove that too Philips. I believe that a statement from a gynecologist will
do.

Let's look at a statement you made last week, and see who's really living in a
fantasy world:

"Hey Marc, I'm not the one with a history of failed marriages, you are. BTW
Marc, did your first wife divorce you when she found out that you are
bisexual or was it all the pedophile fantasies that drove her away? Or, was
it your inability to perform the responsibilities of a husband due to fat
rolls getting in the way?"

This, of course, is your fantasy of who I am, an image you've been obsessing
over for quite some time. In the real world, I am not bisexual, I do not have
pedophile fantasies, nor am I too fat to have sex. I'm five-foot-ten, and I
weigh under 200 pounds. My wife did not divorce me...I divorced her. I could
nitpick and say that "failed marriages" is also a fantasy statement, since it
was a singular event, and that kind of minor detail is the sort of thing you
base an entire argument upon.

In that same post you also boast about hiking, something you only do once a
year or so. That's less physical activity than I do on any given week.
However, you chose to employ your fantasy view of me, where I am "morbidly
obese," and unable to climb up a ladder. That makes you feel better about
spending your life sitting on your ass, playing on the computer. You also made
a rather ignorant comment about the medicine I took that slowed down my
metabolism, that no doctor would give such medicine to an overweight
person...in other words, your fantasy of me. In the real world, I weighed 175
pounds when they put me on the medication. When I gained weight, I complained
to the doctor, and he downplayed it. I wound up firing him and going to
another doctor, who immediately took me off the meds. The weight came back
off.

Now, the only thing people like you and Richard Malesweski have to go on is a
single picture of me taken at my heaviest weight. You two have obsessed over
this picture, because both of you need to find a reason to hate me. You need
to turn me into someone you can hate. That makes you both feel better for
being the failures in life that you are. Like I've said before, the rift here
in RAO has nothing to do with objective v. subjective listening, or LPs v. CDs,
or tube v. solid-state...it's about the Haves v. the Have-Nots. Audiophiles in
general are well-heeled, and that angers people like you and Malesweski.
That's why you have to demonize us and have fantasies about the kind of people
you want us to be, as opposed to the people we really are. Nowhere is this
more evident than in your crusade against John Atkinson, a gentleman if there
ever was one.

The truth is, Arny, I continually attack you for your pedophilia because I want
you to go away. You pollute this place. Many here disagree with me and want
you to stay around because beating up on you is stress relief. You are truly
RAO's clown to them, just as Howard used to be. You, however, sicken me. If
it weren't for you, I would never have had to hear about some sick Internet
geek who made up some e-mails about fondling his dead teenaged son in his
coffin, only to try to disparage some good people who didn't conform to his
fantasies of them.

Stop fantasizing about me, you sick ****.

Boon

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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Yustabe said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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Yustabe said:


She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite'
for
another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
district.

I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling her
"insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she does
her job
and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she belongs
to.


What matters is the lack of choice.

True, although I think that if Maxine Waters was truly insane, there'd be
a
choice in a heartbeat. Even Ted Kennedy came close to losing his last
election.


Let's just say she is irrational and erratic.




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Yustabe said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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Yustabe said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Yustabe said:


She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite'
for
another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
district.

I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling her
"insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she does
her job
and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she belongs
to.


What matters is the lack of choice.

True, although I think that if Maxine Waters was truly insane, there'd be
a
choice in a heartbeat. Even Ted Kennedy came close to losing his last
election.


Let's just say she is irrational and erratic.

She certainly was during Clinton's impeachment.

Boon

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

Actually, you run and hide, because you are the biggest pussy in
the history of Usenet.

Prove that too Philips. I believe that a statement from a
gynecologist will do.

Let's look at a statement you made last week, and see who's really
living in a fantasy world:

"Hey Marc, I'm not the one with a history of failed marriages, you
are. BTW Marc, did your first wife divorce you when she found out
that you are bisexual or was it all the pedophile fantasies that
drove her away? Or, was it your inability to perform the
responsibilities of a husband due to fat rolls getting in the way?"

Aha, the long-awaited (this post was made 9 days ago) reply.

This, of course, is your fantasy of who I am, an image you've been
obsessing over for quite some time.

Not at all. Very much spur of the moment.

In the real world, I am not bisexual,

Prove it.

I do not have pedophile fantasies,

That you have pedophile fantasies is a proven fact, Marc.

nor am I too fat to have sex.

Maybe you had liposuction.

I'm five-foot-ten, and I weigh under 200 pounds.

With or without high heels on?

My wife did not divorce me...I divorced her.

Prove it. That's a legal fact that could actually be proven.

I could nitpick and say that
"failed marriages" is also a fantasy statement, since it was a
singular event, and that kind of minor detail is the sort of thing
you base an entire argument upon.

Look Marc, you're obviously a very unhappy person with very poor
relationships with the people around you. You live in a world of delusions
and fantasies as demonstrated by your many hateful posts about me on RAO.

Well Marc the only claim we have any evidence of shows you at well over 200
pounds. So I guess that means we can dismiss the rest of your claims as
well.

In that same post you also boast about hiking, something you only do
once a year or so.

That would be a fantasy of yours, Phillips.

That's less physical activity than I do on any given week.

That would be an unsupported claim from a proven liar.

However, you chose to employ your fantasy view of me,
where I am "morbidly obese," and unable to climb up a ladder. That
makes you feel better about spending your life sitting on your ass,
playing on the computer.

Not at all Marc. That I spend my life sitting in front of a computer is a
fantasy that you have.

You also made a rather ignorant comment
about the medicine I took that slowed down my metabolism, that no
doctor would give such medicine to an overweight person...in other
words, your fantasy of me.

That would be a fantasy of yours.

In the real world, I weighed 175 pounds
when they put me on the medication. When I gained weight, I
complained to the doctor, and he downplayed it. I wound up firing
him and going to another doctor, who immediately took me off the
meds. The weight came back off.

That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9 days to
come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would have come up with
it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9 days to come up with all
these lies.

Now, the only thing people like you and Richard Malesweski have to go
on is a single picture of me taken at my heaviest weight. You two
have obsessed over this picture, because both of you need to find a
reason to hate me.

Not at all, Marc. First off I don't know who this Malesweski person is,
except that you obsess over him a lot. So, I have no idea if he even exists
or what his state of mind is. Secondly, my attitude towards you is based on
your despicable behavior, not your weight.

You need to turn me into someone you can hate.

You did a fine job of that all by yourself, Marc.

For example, here are all the posts where you called me a "proven" (i.e.,
convicted) pedophile"

http://www.google.com/groups?as_q=pr...=marc%20 phil
lips

There appear to be over 20 instances of this since September 23, 2003 -
about one every three days. Talk about an obsession with me and with
pedophilia!

That makes you both feel better for being the failures in life that you
are.

Except that I'm not a failure, Marc.

Like I've said before, the rift here in RAO has nothing to
do with objective vs.. subjective listening, or LPs vs.. CDs, or tube vs..
solid-state...it's about the Haves vs.. the Have-Nots.

Speaking as one of the "haves", I just don't know what you are talking about
Marc. Is this one of your fantasies, too?

Audiophiles in
general are well-heeled, and that angers people like you and
Malesweski.

Why can't I consider myself a well-heeled audiophile? Isn't my ownership of
maybe $10,000 or more worth of conventional audio gear enough to qualify me?
(Leaving out my extensive collection of sound cards which seems to irritate
you no end). What about the thousands of dollars worth of recording
equipment and audio test equipment that I own? You're fantasizing again,
Marc.

That's why you have to demonize us and have fantasies
about the kind of people you want us to be, as opposed to the people
we really are. Nowhere is this more evident than in your crusade
against John Atkinson, a gentleman if there ever was one.

I find it interesting how cheaply small time thugs like you can be
purchased, Marc. One free lunch, and you're signed, sealed and delivered.

The truth is, Arny, I continually attack you for your pedophilia
because I want you to go away. You pollute this place. Many here
disagree with me and want you to stay around because beating up on
you is stress relief.

As if this is one-sided, Marc. Look, I recently nailed you so hard that it
took you 9 days to make up enough lies to present a reply! LOL!

The fact is that people like you and sockpuppets Yustabe and Wheel are so
embarassed about their lives and their behavior here that you are afraid to
reveal anything true about yourselves.

You are truly RAO's clown to them, just as
Howard used to be. You, however, sicken me. If it weren't for you,
I would never have had to hear about some sick Internet geek who made
up some e-mails about fondling his dead teenaged son in his coffin,
only to try to disparage some good people who didn't conform to his
fantasies of them.

Sorry Marc, but the likely perpetrator of those emails is not me, but
probably you or someone known to you. Anybody who reads your filthy-mouthed
posts can see that you're a person with very poor morals and a filthy mouth.

Stop fantasizing about me, you sick ****.

Did I say filthy mouth? Case proven and closed!

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9 days to
come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would have come up with
it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9 days to come up with all
these lies.

Logic According To Arnold.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

Look Marc, you're obviously a very unhappy person with very poor
relationships with the people around you. You live in a world of delusions
and fantasies as demonstrated by your many hateful posts about me on RAO.


My favorite fantasy about you is the one where you hand over a check for
$25,000 to Mr. Wheeler. Maybe some day, my dreams can come true.




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Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

Actually, you run and hide, because you are the biggest pussy in
the history of Usenet.

Prove that too Philips. I believe that a statement from a
gynecologist will do.

Let's look at a statement you made last week, and see who's really
living in a fantasy world:

"Hey Marc, I'm not the one with a history of failed marriages, you
are. BTW Marc, did your first wife divorce you when she found out
that you are bisexual or was it all the pedophile fantasies that
drove her away? Or, was it your inability to perform the
responsibilities of a husband due to fat rolls getting in the way?"

Aha, the long-awaited (this post was made 9 days ago) reply.

Long-awaited by whom? Obviously a single Internet geek whose life is spent in
front of the computer, waiting for people to acknowledge him since he is
insignificant in the real world. BTW, I did respond to the post before now.


This, of course, is your fantasy of who I am, an image you've been
obsessing over for quite some time.

Not at all. Very much spur of the moment.

Nope. You've been saying the same things for quite some time.

In the real world, I am not bisexual,

Prove it.

No. You have to take my word for it. The whole "prove it" thing is
excessively weak and shows that you would rather hold on to your fantasies as
opposed to listening to what people tell you.


I do not have pedophile fantasies,

That you have pedophile fantasies is a proven fact, Marc.

Not, it's not. You think that because I object to your presence here because
you're a pedophile, that I have pedophile fantasies. You couldn't possibly
sound more stupid or desperate to shed your image as a child pornographer.


nor am I too fat to have sex.

Maybe you had liposuction.

Again, your fantasy.


I'm five-foot-ten, and I weigh under 200 pounds.

With or without high heels on?

Again, your fantasy.


My wife did not divorce me...I divorced her.

Prove it. That's a legal fact that could actually be proven.

Oh, I can prove it. I have the paperwork and everything. Will I prove it to
an Internet geek who is known for being a liar, hypocrite, and pedophile? Why
should I? What kind of credibility do you have?


I could nitpick and say that
"failed marriages" is also a fantasy statement, since it was a
singular event, and that kind of minor detail is the sort of thing
you base an entire argument upon.

Look Marc, you're obviously a very unhappy person with very poor
relationships with the people around you.

Again, your fantasy.

You live in a world of delusions
and fantasies as demonstrated by your many hateful posts about me on RAO.

Again, your fantasy.


Well Marc the only claim we have any evidence of shows you at well over 200
pounds. So I guess that means we can dismiss the rest of your claims as
well.

Again, your fantasy.


In that same post you also boast about hiking, something you only do
once a year or so.

That would be a fantasy of yours, Phillips.

Nope. That would be based upon the number of times you mention it here.
That's usually only once a year, when you go on your annual vacation. If you
now magically and conveniently hike more than that, I'm sure you'll mention it
now.


That's less physical activity than I do on any given week.

That would be an unsupported claim from a proven liar.

Again, your fantasy.


However, you chose to employ your fantasy view of me,
where I am "morbidly obese," and unable to climb up a ladder. That
makes you feel better about spending your life sitting on your ass,
playing on the computer.

Not at all Marc. That I spend my life sitting in front of a computer is a
fantasy that you have.

No, it's supported by the number of posts you make.


You also made a rather ignorant comment
about the medicine I took that slowed down my metabolism, that no
doctor would give such medicine to an overweight person...in other
words, your fantasy of me.

That would be a fantasy of yours.

No, it would be a fantasy of yours.


In the real world, I weighed 175 pounds
when they put me on the medication. When I gained weight, I
complained to the doctor, and he downplayed it. I wound up firing
him and going to another doctor, who immediately took me off the
meds. The weight came back off.

That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9 days to
come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would have come up with
it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9 days to come up with all
these lies.


That would be a fantasy of yours. I did respond to your post earlier.

Now, the only thing people like you and Richard Malesweski have to go
on is a single picture of me taken at my heaviest weight. You two
have obsessed over this picture, because both of you need to find a
reason to hate me.

Not at all, Marc. First off I don't know who this Malesweski person is,
except that you obsess over him a lot.

No, he obsesses over me a lot. Aren't you paying attention, or is this another
fantasy of yours?

So, I have no idea if he even exists
or what his state of mind is.

I'm not asking you to be responsible for his behavior. You two merely think
the same way.

Secondly, my attitude towards you is based on
your despicable behavior, not your weight.

You need to turn me into someone you can hate.

You did a fine job of that all by yourself, Marc.

Nope. As with the evidence of your pedophilia, I didn't make these claims.
I'm just reacting to them.


For example, here are all the posts where you called me a "proven" (i.e.,
convicted) pedophile"

http://www.google.com/groups?as_q=pr...=marc%20 phil
lips

There appear to be over 20 instances of this since September 23, 2003 -
about one every three days. Talk about an obsession with me and with
pedophilia!

If I'm obsessed, it's with getting a disgusting pedophile such as you off of
this newgroup. Only in your fantasy world would you equate this with an
obsession with child pornography.



That makes you both feel better for being the failures in life that you
are.

Except that I'm not a failure, Marc.

Prove it!


Like I've said before, the rift here in RAO has nothing to
do with objective vs.. subjective listening, or LPs vs.. CDs, or tube vs..
solid-state...it's about the Haves vs.. the Have-Nots.

Speaking as one of the "haves", I just don't know what you are talking about
Marc. Is this one of your fantasies, too?

People who "have" lead productive lives, instead of living their lives in front
of the computer.


Audiophiles in
general are well-heeled, and that angers people like you and
Malesweski.

Why can't I consider myself a well-heeled audiophile? Isn't my ownership of
maybe $10,000 or more worth of conventional audio gear enough to qualify me?

You have a bunch of crap laying around in your basement. That doesn't qualify.
Neither does a specific dollar amount.

(Leaving out my extensive collection of sound cards which seems to irritate
you no end). What about the thousands of dollars worth of recording
equipment and audio test equipment that I own? You're fantasizing again,
Marc.


Again, that has nothing to do with being a well-heeled audiophile. It's about
having a taste for the finer things in life. It's not about affixing a price
tag to everything that you own.

That's why you have to demonize us and have fantasies
about the kind of people you want us to be, as opposed to the people
we really are. Nowhere is this more evident than in your crusade
against John Atkinson, a gentleman if there ever was one.

I find it interesting how cheaply small time thugs like you can be
purchased, Marc. One free lunch, and you're signed, sealed and delivered.

I have no idea what you're talking about here. I suppose that it's because
your fantasies are becoming less and less attached to reality.


The truth is, Arny, I continually attack you for your pedophilia
because I want you to go away. You pollute this place. Many here
disagree with me and want you to stay around because beating up on
you is stress relief.

As if this is one-sided, Marc. Look, I recently nailed you so hard that it
took you 9 days to make up enough lies to present a reply! LOL!


Again, I replied, almost immediately.


The fact is that people like you and sockpuppets Yustabe and Wheel are so
embarassed about their lives and their behavior here that you are afraid to
reveal anything true about yourselves.

Again, your fantasy. I've revealed plenty about my life here, probably too
much.


You are truly RAO's clown to them, just as
Howard used to be. You, however, sicken me. If it weren't for you,
I would never have had to hear about some sick Internet geek who made
up some e-mails about fondling his dead teenaged son in his coffin,
only to try to disparage some good people who didn't conform to his
fantasies of them.

Sorry Marc, but the likely perpetrator of those emails is not me, but
probably you or someone known to you.

It was proven otherwise.

Anybody who reads your filthy-mouthed
posts can see that you're a person with very poor morals and a filthy mouth.

Again, your fantasy. I'm surprised how scared you are of simple words, too.


Stop fantasizing about me, you sick ****.

Did I say filthy mouth? Case proven and closed!

So you think that calling you a sick **** is worse than talking about fondling
your dead teenaged son in his coffin? That figures.

Boon

dave said:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9 days to
come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would have come up with
it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9 days to come up with all
these lies.

Logic According To Arnold.

Not to mention that I did respond almost immediately.

Boon

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
McKelvy said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
McKelvy said:

What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
untrue.

The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in the
sand,
wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
audio,
as
opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.

You really should wake the **** up one day.

Boon

You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.

It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the record.
I
didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.

You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known pedophile for
his
views on audio.

Boon

But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless stream of
lies.

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
McKelvy said:

Perhaps he's not aware that Maxine Waters is
INSANE.


And yet she wins her elections by getting as much as 85% of the vote. I
guess
all of her constituents must be insane, too.

Boon


Well, you do have to be a liar a fool, or someomone wanting to feed at the
government trough to keep someone like her in office.

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
...

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Yustabe said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Yustabe said:


She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not 'polite'
for
another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
district.

I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling
her
"insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she
does
her job
and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she
belongs
to.


What matters is the lack of choice.

True, although I think that if Maxine Waters was truly insane, there'd
be
a
choice in a heartbeat. Even Ted Kennedy came close to losing his last
election.


Let's just say she is irrational and erratic.

IOW, insane. You'd probably get along well with her.

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"dave weil" wrote in message

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9
days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
days to come up with all these lies.

Logic According To Arnold.

Not only that, but it's taken Phillips about 20 months to come up with this
lame excuse about his obesity being due to medication.

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

dave said:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you
9 days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
days to come up with all these lies.

Logic According To Arnold.

Not to mention that I did respond almost immediately.

Not with this pile of crap, Phillips. It took you 9 days to make up all
these fairy tales. It took you 20 months to come up with the fairy tale
about your obesity. In contrast, it takes almost no time to tell the truth.
You should try it some time.

"Michael Mckelvy" wrote in message
...

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
...

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Yustabe said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Yustabe said:


She gets no competiton in the Democratic primary - It's not
'polite'
for
another Dem to take her on. And there are few Republicans in that
district.

I certainly don't like her or agree with her politics. But calling
her
"insane," as duh-Mikey has done, seems to ignore the fact that she
does
her job
and serves her constituents. It doesn't matter which party she
belongs
to.


What matters is the lack of choice.

True, although I think that if Maxine Waters was truly insane, there'd
be
a
choice in a heartbeat. Even Ted Kennedy came close to losing his last
election.


Let's just say she is irrational and erratic.

IOW, insane. You'd probably get along well with her.


Irrational and erratic is not necesarily insane. The insane ones
like you and Arny are irrational and predictable.




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Arny said:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you 9
days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
days to come up with all these lies.

Logic According To Arnold.

Not only that, but it's taken Phillips about 20 months to come up with this
lame excuse about his obesity being due to medication.

Wrong. I've mentioned it several times.

Boon

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

dave said:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you
9 days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
days to come up with all these lies.

Logic According To Arnold.

Not to mention that I did respond almost immediately.

Not with this pile of crap, Phillips. It took you 9 days to make up all
these fairy tales. It took you 20 months to come up with the fairy tale
about your obesity. In contrast, it takes almost no time to tell the truth.
You should try it some time.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Boon

McKelvy said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
McKelvy said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
McKelvy said:

What caused so many to accuse Arny of a host of things that are
untrue.

The fact that he really did do them, and you're hiding your head in the
sand,
wrongly believing that this has something to do with his views on
audio,
as
opposed to his disgusting behavior on this forum.

You really should wake the **** up one day.

Boon

You really should stop lying, it fools nobody.

It's not a matter of what I say, it's a matter of what is on the record.
I
didn't make a claim, I'm merely reacting to evidence of it.

You'd react similarly if you didn't have to protect a known pedophile for
his
views on audio.

Boon

But I'm not protecting one. It's just another in your enless stream of
lies.

If denial is the only way you can deal with your complicity with Arny's
sickness, then so be it.

Boon

Arny said:

It took you 20 months to come up with the fairy tale
about your obesity.

Oh, look at this, from October 9, 2002:

"I did. You see, when that picture was taken, Bill, I was on a medication for
diabetes (Glyburide) that is famous for not only making someone gain weight and
slowing their metabolism, but also raising their cholesterol. My doctor seemed
rather unresponsive to my concerns, even when I told him about mood swings and
periods of depression, which are other side effects of that particular
medication. As a result, I gained forty pounds over a year, and was very
depressed about it to boot. Then I attended CES at my heaviest, saw the
picture of myself, and decided I had enough. I found another doctor, who was
alarmed at the lack of competence in my medical treatment. He switched me to
another med, Glucophage, and the weight started coming back off on its own. It
had nothing to do with cheeseburgers...that was a joke I made in order to try
to be a little sunnier about the situation. Of course that didn't stop
vultures like yourself from swooping in.

I didn't mention it before because I didn't want to keep making excuses for
what was going on with my body. And the medication also affected my judgment,
allowing my situation to get worse. Now that I have a good doctor, things are
much better, and other than my recent bout with food poisoning (which has
caused me to lose another 10 pounds), I feel and look better than ever. But
don't believe that this will stop me from thinking that people like you and
Arny and Ratso Rizzo, who aren't above making fat jokes, are absolute pieces of
****."

Now, by your rationale, if waiting to respond to a post constitutes spending
time to make up lies, then why did it take you EIGHTEEN MONTHS to reply to my
question about why you made this statement:

"Still smarting about having the whistle blown on your sad power amplifier
game?"

Your reply was that you had no idea why you made that remark. So, by your own
logic, you must have lied, since it took you eighteen months to come up with an
answer.

Also, since you have failed to answer my question posed a couple of days about
Quad ESLs and tube amps, by your logic, we must assume that you are still
trying to come up with a lie.

Boon

Arny said:

That would be an unsupported claim. I notice that it has taken you
9 days to come up with these answers. If it was the truth you would
have come up with it in a timely fashion. Instead, it took you 9
days to come up with all these lies.

Here is my immediate response:

http://www.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=...31118140947.29
211.00000425%40mb-m12.aol.com

Boon