Ugggah! High Hard Butt Stuffing on fBay!

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Some misguided merft took it in the subwoofer with no Cramolin on this
one!


MAGNAVOX SINGLE ENDED PENTODE INTEGRATED AMP-MINT-NICE

-Bidding has ended for this item

Sold for:
US $100.00

Auction ended early with Buy It Now
Description




COMPLETE MAGNAVOX SINGLE ENDED PENTODE TUBE AMP- USES 6BQ5 TUBES- THIS
IS AN INTEGRATED AMP PULLED FROM AN EARLY 1960'S STEREO MAGNAVOX
CONSOLE PHONOGRAPH THAT DID NOT HAVE A RADIO TUNER IN IT-


HAS ALL THE ORIGINAL MAGNAVOX TUBES IN IT- THEY HAVE ALL BEEN TESTED
AND THEY ARE ALL GOOD


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


SPECIAL SPRING SALE OFFER- USE BUY IT NOW- GET FREE SHIPPING ANYWHERE
IN THE USA


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


(2) RCA JACK STEREO INPUTS


(2) SPEAKER OUTPUT MALE SPADE CONNECTORS


(1) SPEAKER OUTPUT COMMON GROUND


CONTROL KNOBS ON FRONT FOR VOLUME-BASS-TREBLE


ADJUSTMENT POT IN BACK FOR BALANCE


THIS AMP SOUND AWESOME AND GIVES THAT GREAT WARM TUBE SOUND- SIMILAR
NEW AMPS BUILT LIKE THIS COST $600-1000 OR MORE- THESE OLD AMPS HAVE
EXCELLENT OUTPUT TRANSFORMERS AND POWER SUPPLY TRANSFORMER


THIS WOULD MAKE A GREAT AMP PROJECT TO PUT INSIDE A NICE BOX CABINET


I HAVE TESTED IT EXTENSIVELY THROUGH MY 93 DB/WATT/METER SPEAKERS AND
IT SOUNDS AWESOME- STUNNING BASS RESPONSE ! GREAT STEREO IMAGING !


WILL ACCEPT CD, TAPE DECK, OR MAGNETIC/CERAMIC PHONOGRAPH INPUT


ALSO (2) OUTPUT SPADE CONNECTORS FOR POWER INDICATOR LIGHT IF YOU WANT
ONE

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Shown in the picture is one of those little power supply/power amp
chassis from an old 50s or 60s tube console such as sold at polk Bros.
or Woolworths: two output channels consisting of an EL84 and an output
transformer suited for a AA5 table radio,e.g. roughly the size of Ann
Coulter's or Hilary Clinton's distended clit.

Real market value was probably $5-WITH the little console it came
with.

[Fried Cap]

Item link?

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Some misguided merft took it in the subwoofer with no Cramolin on this
> one!
>
>
> MAGNAVOX SINGLE ENDED PENTODE INTEGRATED AMP-MINT-NICE
>
> -Bidding has ended for this item
>
> Sold for:
> US $100.00
>
> Auction ended early with Buy It Now
> Description
>
>
>
>
> COMPLETE MAGNAVOX SINGLE ENDED PENTODE TUBE AMP- USES 6BQ5 TUBES- THIS
> IS AN INTEGRATED AMP PULLED FROM AN EARLY 1960'S STEREO MAGNAVOX
> CONSOLE PHONOGRAPH THAT DID NOT HAVE A RADIO TUNER IN IT-
>
>
> HAS ALL THE ORIGINAL MAGNAVOX TUBES IN IT- THEY HAVE ALL BEEN TESTED
> AND THEY ARE ALL GOOD
>
>
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>
>
> SPECIAL SPRING SALE OFFER- USE BUY IT NOW- GET FREE SHIPPING ANYWHERE
> IN THE USA
>
>
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>
>
> (2) RCA JACK STEREO INPUTS
>
>
> (2) SPEAKER OUTPUT MALE SPADE CONNECTORS
>
>
> (1) SPEAKER OUTPUT COMMON GROUND
>
>
> CONTROL KNOBS ON FRONT FOR VOLUME-BASS-TREBLE
>
>
> ADJUSTMENT POT IN BACK FOR BALANCE
>
>
> THIS AMP SOUND AWESOME AND GIVES THAT GREAT WARM TUBE SOUND- SIMILAR
> NEW AMPS BUILT LIKE THIS COST $600-1000 OR MORE- THESE OLD AMPS HAVE
> EXCELLENT OUTPUT TRANSFORMERS AND POWER SUPPLY TRANSFORMER
>
>
> THIS WOULD MAKE A GREAT AMP PROJECT TO PUT INSIDE A NICE BOX CABINET
>
>
> I HAVE TESTED IT EXTENSIVELY THROUGH MY 93 DB/WATT/METER SPEAKERS AND
> IT SOUNDS AWESOME- STUNNING BASS RESPONSE ! GREAT STEREO IMAGING !
>
>
> WILL ACCEPT CD, TAPE DECK, OR MAGNETIC/CERAMIC PHONOGRAPH INPUT
>
>
> ALSO (2) OUTPUT SPADE CONNECTORS FOR POWER INDICATOR LIGHT IF YOU WANT
> ONE
>
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>
> Shown in the picture is one of those little power supply/power amp
> chassis from an old 50s or 60s tube console such as sold at polk Bros.
> or Woolworths: two output channels consisting of an EL84 and an output
> transformer suited for a AA5 table radio,e.g. roughly the size of Ann
> Coulter's or Hilary Clinton's distended clit.
>
> Real market value was probably $5-WITH the little console it came
> with.
>

[Arny Krueger]

"Fried Cap" > wrote in message


> Item link?

Your question is over Cal's head. But, the answer is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=73369&item=5761852174

[[email protected]]

It wasn't over my head, Arny; I omitted the link to not give the
identity of the seller and buyer, a/k/a Knave and Fool.

Since you did:

Seller:
Seller information


66fourdoor ( 914)


Feedback Score: 914
Positive Feedback: 99.8%
Member since Dec-31-01 in United States

Buyer:scihi

[Ozzy 2005]

SNIP

Granted not $100 but a bit more than $5, no?

[[email protected]]

No.

[Ozzy 2005]

wrote:
> No.
>
Wow, I guess those trannies are real crap then, I thought they'd have
some value. Caps, wires, pots, chassis, tubes - all pretty worthless -
hey maybe those are ceramic sockets that could be a few bucks.

Amazing what a hyped up description will do, if he sold it with a rough
piece of walnut ready for cutting, sanding and finishing to use as a
base under the chassis he could have listed it for $150.

[[email protected]]

NEW similar trannies are $5 apiece from Antique Electronic Supply. And
how much are 40 year old barbequed caps worth?

[Fried Cap]

Ouch, that's $35 worth at best.

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Fried Cap" > wrote in message
>
>
>> Item link?
>
> Your question is over Cal's head. But, the answer is:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=73369&item=5761852174
>
>
>

[dave weil]

On 26 Mar 2005 18:04:19 -0800, wrote:

>Some misguided merft took it in the subwoofer with no Cramolin on this
>one!
>
>
>MAGNAVOX SINGLE ENDED PENTODE INTEGRATED AMP-MINT-NICE
>
>-Bidding has ended for this item
>
>Sold for:
>US $100.00
>
>Auction ended early with Buy It Now
>Description
>
>
>
>
>COMPLETE MAGNAVOX SINGLE ENDED PENTODE TUBE AMP- USES 6BQ5 TUBES- THIS
>IS AN INTEGRATED AMP PULLED FROM AN EARLY 1960'S STEREO MAGNAVOX
>CONSOLE PHONOGRAPH THAT DID NOT HAVE A RADIO TUNER IN IT-
>
>
>HAS ALL THE ORIGINAL MAGNAVOX TUBES IN IT- THEY HAVE ALL BEEN TESTED
>AND THEY ARE ALL GOOD
>
>
>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>
>
>SPECIAL SPRING SALE OFFER- USE BUY IT NOW- GET FREE SHIPPING ANYWHERE
>IN THE USA
>
>
>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>
>
>(2) RCA JACK STEREO INPUTS
>
>
>(2) SPEAKER OUTPUT MALE SPADE CONNECTORS
>
>
>(1) SPEAKER OUTPUT COMMON GROUND
>
>
>CONTROL KNOBS ON FRONT FOR VOLUME-BASS-TREBLE
>
>
>ADJUSTMENT POT IN BACK FOR BALANCE
>
>
>THIS AMP SOUND AWESOME AND GIVES THAT GREAT WARM TUBE SOUND- SIMILAR
>NEW AMPS BUILT LIKE THIS COST $600-1000 OR MORE- THESE OLD AMPS HAVE
>EXCELLENT OUTPUT TRANSFORMERS AND POWER SUPPLY TRANSFORMER
>
>
>THIS WOULD MAKE A GREAT AMP PROJECT TO PUT INSIDE A NICE BOX CABINET
>
>
>I HAVE TESTED IT EXTENSIVELY THROUGH MY 93 DB/WATT/METER SPEAKERS AND
>IT SOUNDS AWESOME- STUNNING BASS RESPONSE ! GREAT STEREO IMAGING !
>
>
>WILL ACCEPT CD, TAPE DECK, OR MAGNETIC/CERAMIC PHONOGRAPH INPUT
>
>
>ALSO (2) OUTPUT SPADE CONNECTORS FOR POWER INDICATOR LIGHT IF YOU WANT
>ONE
>
>XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>
> Shown in the picture is one of those little power supply/power amp
>chassis from an old 50s or 60s tube console such as sold at polk Bros.
>or Woolworths: two output channels consisting of an EL84 and an output
>transformer suited for a AA5 table radio,e.g. roughly the size of Ann
>Coulter's or Hilary Clinton's distended clit.
>
> Real market value was probably $5-WITH the little console it came
>with.

Actually, the real market value in this case was $100.

[dave weil]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:15:56 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:

>Ouch, that's $35 worth at best.

So, now we're quibbling over spending an extra $65 for a working amp,
with NOS tubes that might easily be worth that $35 alone, depending on
how they test?

One would think that the buyer spent $10,000 on a power amp or
something.

BTW, Cal should be rejoicing that this item didn't get parted out.

<s******>

>"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
>> "Fried Cap" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> Item link?
>>
>> Your question is over Cal's head. But, the answer is:
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=73369&item=5761852174
>>
>>
>>
>

[Fried Cap]

"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:15:56 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:
>
>>Ouch, that's $35 worth at best.
>
> So, now we're quibbling over spending an extra $65 for a working amp,
> with NOS tubes that might easily be worth that $35 alone, depending on
> how they test?

So who says I'm right, the $5 may be closer to the truth.

[dave weil]

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:34:02 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:

>
>"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:15:56 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:
>>
>>>Ouch, that's $35 worth at best.
>>
>> So, now we're quibbling over spending an extra $65 for a working amp,
>> with NOS tubes that might easily be worth that $35 alone, depending on
>> how they test?
>
>So who says I'm right, the $5 may be closer to the truth.

$95 then.

Are we really now complaining about spending an extra $95 for a
working two channel amplifier, regardless of how much it theoretically
might be worth?

Besides, if the tubes test strongly, then they are worth at least $35
by themselves.

The fact that people are judging someone harshly for spending a
hundred bucks for a working amp seems rather ludicrous, at least to
me.

[Fried Cap]

Who's complaining? I just think he got shafted.

"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:34:02 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:
>
>>
>>"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:15:56 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Ouch, that's $35 worth at best.
>>>
>>> So, now we're quibbling over spending an extra $65 for a working amp,
>>> with NOS tubes that might easily be worth that $35 alone, depending on
>>> how they test?
>>
>>So who says I'm right, the $5 may be closer to the truth.
>
> $95 then.
>
> Are we really now complaining about spending an extra $95 for a
> working two channel amplifier, regardless of how much it theoretically
> might be worth?
>
> Besides, if the tubes test strongly, then they are worth at least $35
> by themselves.
>
> The fact that people are judging someone harshly for spending a
> hundred bucks for a working amp seems rather ludicrous, at least to
> me.

[dave weil]

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:38:36 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:

>Who's complaining? I just think he got shafted.

Maybe you should worry about the brand of toilet paper he uses.

[EC]

"Fried Cap" > wrote in :

> Who's complaining? I just think he got shafted.
>

Not me!

After you've spent hours drilling holes in steel, you think what your time
is worth. Paint the chassis black, wrap it in some wood, re-cap and strap
it triode-mode... might be a cool amp.

So it goes!

[[email protected]]

EC wrote:
> "Fried Cap" > wrote in
:
>
> > Who's complaining? I just think he got shafted.
> >
>
> Not me!
>
> After you've spent hours drilling holes in steel, you think what your
time
> is worth. Paint the chassis black, wrap it in some wood, re-cap and
strap
> it triode-mode... might be a cool amp.

Since the invention of the electric and air hand drills and the drill
press, it's gotten to be fast.

[Fried Cap]

Maybe you shouldn't concern yourself about what I should do. What's your
problem?


"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:38:36 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:
>
>>Who's complaining? I just think he got shafted.
>
> Maybe you should worry about the brand of toilet paper he uses.

[Sander deWaal]

"Fried Cap" > said:

>Maybe you shouldn't concern yourself about what I should do. What's your
>problem?
>
>
>"dave weil" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:38:36 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:
>>
>>>Who's complaining? I just think he got shafted.
>>
>> Maybe you should worry about the brand of toilet paper he uses.


Top- and crossposting?



A: Because it screws the flow of the conversation.

Q: Why is top-posting considered annoying?

A: Top-posting.

Q: What is considered the most annoying thing on Usenet?


--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" > wrote in message

> "Fried Cap" > said:
>
>> Maybe you shouldn't concern yourself about what I should do. What's
>> your problem?
>>
>>
>> "dave weil" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:38:36 -0800, "Fried Cap" >
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who's complaining? I just think he got shafted.
>>>
>>> Maybe you should worry about the brand of toilet paper he uses.
>
>
> Top- and crossposting?
>
>
>
> A: Because it screws the flow of the conversation.
>
> Q: Why is top-posting considered annoying?
>
> A: Top-posting.
>
> Q: What is considered the most annoying thing on Usenet?

LOL!

[dave weil]

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:17:46 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:

>Maybe you shouldn't concern yourself about what I should do. What's your
>problem?

So why are you concerned about someone spending $100 on an amp?

[Lionel]

dave weil a écrit :
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:17:46 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:
>
>
>>Maybe you shouldn't concern yourself about what I should do. What's your
>>problem?
>
>
> So why are you concerned about someone spending $100 on an amp?

You are losing you time Dave. It would be better that you
teach us the DIY confection of an Eq template with a cardboard.

;-)

[dave weil]

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:43:49 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:

>dave weil a écrit :
>> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:17:46 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Maybe you shouldn't concern yourself about what I should do. What's your
>>>problem?
>>
>>
>> So why are you concerned about someone spending $100 on an amp?
>
>You are losing you time Dave. It would be better that you
>teach us the DIY confection of an Eq template with a cardboard.

Is that supposed to be English? If so, then back to the drawing board
with you...

[Lionel]

Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !

:-D


dave weil a écrit :
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:43:49 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>
>>dave weil a écrit :
>>
>>>On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:17:46 -0800, "Fried Cap" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Maybe you shouldn't concern yourself about what I should do. What's your
>>>>problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>So why are you concerned about someone spending $100 on an amp?
>>
>>You are losing you time Dave. It would be better that you
>>teach us the DIY confection of an Eq template with a cardboard.
>
>
> Is that supposed to be English? If so, then back to the drawing board
> with you...

No problem, old man, my English is better than your
French... ;-)

[dave weil]

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:55:48 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:

>Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
>will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !

Still not quite right in English, but better than your last attempt,
which was horribly botched.

And still top posting. Tsk, tsk!

[dave weil]

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:55:48 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:

>> Is that supposed to be English? If so, then back to the drawing board
>> with you...
>
>No problem, old man, my English is better than your
>French... ;-)

Which is why I don't bother botching YOUR language.

BTW, I am quite a bit younger than both of your heroes, Howard
Ferstler and Arnold Krueger.

[Lionel]

dave weil a écrit :
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:55:48 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>
>>>Is that supposed to be English? If so, then back to the drawing board
>>>with you...
>>
>>No problem, old man, my English is better than your
>>French... ;-)
>
>
> Which is why I don't bother botching YOUR language.

Sorry I haven't any language. I just speak a little bit
better French than English and Italian.

> BTW, I am quite a bit younger

Note my fault if you look lot more older than you are. :-D

> than both of your heroes, Howard
> Ferstler and Arnold Krueger.

Sorry but in contrary to you I don't need and I haven't any
heroes.

[Lionel]

dave weil a écrit :
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:55:48 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
>>will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !
>
>
> Still not quite right in English, but better than your last attempt,
> which was horribly botched.

No problem, old man since you and the others have
understood. ;-)

> And still top posting.

Still ?

> Tsk, tsk!

"Tsk, tsk!" ?????

[MINe 109]

In article >,
Lionel > wrote:

>
> Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
> will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !
>
> :-D

http://tinyurl.com/4bqzs

See Page 2.

Stephen

[Lionel]

MINe 109 a écrit :
> In article >,
> Lionel > wrote:
>
>
>>Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
>>will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !
>>
>>:-D
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4bqzs
>
> See Page 2.
>
> Stephen

So what ? We can check that Weil has plagiarized this article.
What's new ? ;-)

[MINe 109]

In article >,
Lionel > wrote:

> MINe 109 a écrit :
> > In article >,
> > Lionel > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
> >>will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !
> >>
> >>:-D
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/4bqzs
> >
> > See Page 2.
> >
> > Stephen
>
> So what ? We can check that Weil has plagiarized this article.
> What's new ? ;-)

No, it pretty much supports his anecdote. How do you store your eq
curves?

Stephen

[Lionel]

In >, MINe 109 wrote :

> In article >,
> Lionel > wrote:
>
>> MINe 109 a écrit :
>> > In article >,
>> > Lionel > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
>> >>will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !
>> >>
>> >>:-D
>> >
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/4bqzs
>> >
>> > See Page 2.
>> >
>> > Stephen
>>
>> So what ? We can check that Weil has plagiarized this article.
>> What's new ? ;-)
>
> No, it pretty much supports his anecdote. How do you store your eq
> curves?

I don't use any eq except under SoundForge, in this case the Eq curves are
stored with the waveform.

IMHO the concept of Eq template is simply stupid.

[MINe 109]

In article >,
Lionel > wrote:

> In >, MINe 109 wrote :
>
> > In article >,
> > Lionel > wrote:
> >
> >> MINe 109 a écrit :
> >> > In article >,
> >> > Lionel > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
> >> >>will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !
> >> >>
> >> >>:-D
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/4bqzs
> >> >
> >> > See Page 2.
> >> >
> >> > Stephen
> >>
> >> So what ? We can check that Weil has plagiarized this article.
> >> What's new ? ;-)
> >
> > No, it pretty much supports his anecdote. How do you store your eq
> > curves?
>
> I don't use any eq except under SoundForge, in this case the Eq curves are
> stored with the waveform.
>
> IMHO the concept of Eq template is simply stupid.

That's one of several reasons I don't use eq, but in this case a
manufacturer saw some advantage in giving away pieces of cardboard.

Go figure.

Stephen

[Clyde Slick]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...

>I haven't any heroes.

Of course not, you are French.



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[Lionel]

MINe 109 a écrit :
> In article >,
> Lionel > wrote:
>
>
>>In >, MINe 109 wrote :
>>
>>
>>>In article >,
>>> Lionel > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>MINe 109 a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>>In article >,
>>>>> Lionel > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
>>>>>>will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>:-D
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/4bqzs
>>>>>
>>>>>See Page 2.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stephen
>>>>
>>>>So what ? We can check that Weil has plagiarized this article.
>>>>What's new ? ;-)
>>>
>>>No, it pretty much supports his anecdote. How do you store your eq
>>>curves?
>>
>>I don't use any eq except under SoundForge, in this case the Eq curves are
>>stored with the waveform.
>>
>>IMHO the concept of Eq template is simply stupid.
>
>
> That's one of several reasons I don't use eq, but in this case a
> manufacturer saw some advantage in giving away pieces of cardboard.
>
> Go figure.

We are agree.
This is why I am a little bit sarcastic with the guys who
use (or recommend) such "stupid" solution.

[Lionel]

Clyde Slick a écrit :
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>>I haven't any heroes.
>
>
> Of course not, you are French.

This wasn't exactly my point but thank you for the compliment.

[Clyde Slick]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Clyde Slick a écrit :
>> "Lionel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>
>>>I haven't any heroes.
>>
>>
>> Of course not, you are French.
>
> This wasn't exactly my point but thank you for the compliment.

Whatever.



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[dave weil]

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:44:02 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:

>MINe 109 a écrit :
>> In article >,
>> Lionel > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In >, MINe 109 wrote :
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article >,
>>>> Lionel > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>MINe 109 a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>> Lionel > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
>>>>>>>will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>:-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/4bqzs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>See Page 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Stephen
>>>>>
>>>>>So what ? We can check that Weil has plagiarized this article.
>>>>>What's new ? ;-)
>>>>
>>>>No, it pretty much supports his anecdote. How do you store your eq
>>>>curves?
>>>
>>>I don't use any eq except under SoundForge, in this case the Eq curves are
>>>stored with the waveform.
>>>
>>>IMHO the concept of Eq template is simply stupid.
>>
>>
>> That's one of several reasons I don't use eq, but in this case a
>> manufacturer saw some advantage in giving away pieces of cardboard.
>>
>> Go figure.
>
>We are agree.
>This is why I am a little bit sarcastic with the guys who
>use (or recommend) such "stupid" solution.


Actually, it's the simplest, easiest solution to the problem that
Howard (I demand an eq) Ferstler proposed.

Of course, if he wanted to pop for it, he could get one of the eqs
that has the ability to memorize curves and store them.

[Lionel]

dave weil a écrit :
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:44:02 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>
>>MINe 109 a écrit :
>>
>>>In article >,
>>> Lionel > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>In >, MINe 109 wrote :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>Lionel > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>MINe 109 a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>>>Lionel > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
>>>>>>>>will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>:-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/4bqzs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>See Page 2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stephen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So what ? We can check that Weil has plagiarized this article.
>>>>>>What's new ? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>No, it pretty much supports his anecdote. How do you store your eq
>>>>>curves?
>>>>
>>>>I don't use any eq except under SoundForge, in this case the Eq curves are
>>>>stored with the waveform.
>>>>
>>>>IMHO the concept of Eq template is simply stupid.
>>>
>>>
>>>That's one of several reasons I don't use eq, but in this case a
>>>manufacturer saw some advantage in giving away pieces of cardboard.
>>>
>>>Go figure.
>>
>>We are agree.
>>This is why I am a little bit sarcastic with the guys who
>>use (or recommend) such "stupid" solution.
>
>
>
> Actually, it's the simplest, easiest solution to the problem that
> Howard (I demand an eq) Ferstler proposed.

Blah, blah, blah...

[Lionel]

Stewart Pinkerton a écrit :
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:48:20 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Clyde Slick a écrit :
>>
>>>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I haven't any heroes.
>>>
>>>
>>>Of course not, you are French.
>>
>>This wasn't exactly my point but thank you for the compliment.
>
>
> How do you know if there's a war in Europe?
>
> Paris is occupied. :-)

My grand-father who was in Verdun used to say :
"An assault with an English company is the most dangerous...
because they're so terrified that they shoot you in the back".

:-(



> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>
> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...

The french words are "loyal" and "loyauté" not my fault if
the mass media and tabloids from the Perfid Albion don't
know that.

;-)

[George M. Middius]

Stewbie said:

> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>
> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...

Which country named itself after a whisky?

[dave weil]

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:45:36 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:

>dave weil a écrit :
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:44:02 +0200, Lionel >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>MINe 109 a écrit :
>>>
>>>>In article >,
>>>> Lionel > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In >, MINe 109 wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>>Lionel > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>MINe 109 a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>>>>Lionel > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
>>>>>>>>>will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>:-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/4bqzs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>See Page 2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Stephen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So what ? We can check that Weil has plagiarized this article.
>>>>>>>What's new ? ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No, it pretty much supports his anecdote. How do you store your eq
>>>>>>curves?
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't use any eq except under SoundForge, in this case the Eq curves are
>>>>>stored with the waveform.
>>>>>
>>>>>IMHO the concept of Eq template is simply stupid.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That's one of several reasons I don't use eq, but in this case a
>>>>manufacturer saw some advantage in giving away pieces of cardboard.
>>>>
>>>>Go figure.
>>>
>>>We are agree.
>>>This is why I am a little bit sarcastic with the guys who
>>>use (or recommend) such "stupid" solution.
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, it's the simplest, easiest solution to the problem that
>> Howard (I demand an eq) Ferstler proposed.
>
>Blah, blah, blah...

Yep, poor Lionel...caught without a response. Don't you feel foolish
now, little man?

[Stewart Pinkerton]

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:43:52 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:

>Stewart Pinkerton a écrit :
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:48:20 +0200, Lionel >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Clyde Slick a écrit :
>>>
>>>>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I haven't any heroes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Of course not, you are French.
>>>
>>>This wasn't exactly my point but thank you for the compliment.
>>
>>
>> How do you know if there's a war in Europe?
>>
>> Paris is occupied. :-)
>
>My grand-father who was in Verdun used to say :
>"An assault with an English company is the most dangerous...
>because they're so terrified that they shoot you in the back".

Agreed - that's why the Scotttish Highland Regiments do all the real
fighting.............

>> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>>
>> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...
>
>The french words are "loyal" and "loyauté" not my fault if
>the mass media and tabloids from the Perfid Albion don't
>know that.

Seems that these would refer to loyalty, a somewhat different concept,
but then I'm not much of a francophone. Perhaps of course Lionel
simply does not understand the concept of fair play? :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

[Stewart Pinkerton]

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:20:13 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>Stewbie said:
>
>> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>>
>> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...
>
>Which country named itself after a whisky?

Canada?
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

[Lionel]

In >, dave weil wrote :

> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:45:36 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>>dave weil a écrit :
>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:44:02 +0200, Lionel >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>MINe 109 a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>>In article >,
>>>>> Lionel > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In >, MINe 109
>>>>>>wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>>>Lionel > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>MINe 109 a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>>>>>Lionel > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Give him a piece of cardboard and a pair of scissors and he
>>>>>>>>>>will manufacture you a very nice Eq template !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>:-D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/4bqzs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>See Page 2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Stephen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So what ? We can check that Weil has plagiarized this article.
>>>>>>>>What's new ? ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No, it pretty much supports his anecdote. How do you store your eq
>>>>>>>curves?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't use any eq except under SoundForge, in this case the Eq curves
>>>>>>are stored with the waveform.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>IMHO the concept of Eq template is simply stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That's one of several reasons I don't use eq, but in this case a
>>>>>manufacturer saw some advantage in giving away pieces of cardboard.
>>>>>
>>>>>Go figure.
>>>>
>>>>We are agree.
>>>>This is why I am a little bit sarcastic with the guys who
>>>>use (or recommend) such "stupid" solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, it's the simplest, easiest solution to the problem that
>>> Howard (I demand an eq) Ferstler proposed.
>>
>>Blah, blah, blah...
>
> Yep, poor Lionel...caught without a response. Don't you feel foolish
> now, little man?

Why should I feel foolish ?
Because you have done a stupid technical proposal to a non-existant
problem ? Because once again you have written for nothing ? Becuase once
again you have show up your sad ignorance ?

:-D

Poor old man, *YOU* should feel foolish now...

[Lionel]

In >, Stewart Pinkerton wrote :

> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:43:52 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>>Stewart Pinkerton a écrit :
>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:48:20 +0200, Lionel >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Clyde Slick a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I haven't any heroes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course not, you are French.
>>>>
>>>>This wasn't exactly my point but thank you for the compliment.
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you know if there's a war in Europe?
>>>
>>> Paris is occupied. :-)
>>
>>My grand-father who was in Verdun used to say :
>>"An assault with an English company is the most dangerous...
>>because they're so terrified that they shoot you in the back".
>
> Agreed - that's why the Scotttish Highland Regiments do all the real
> fighting.............

I was only speaking about the Englishs.
You are right concerning the Scottishs, Canadians, Australians, guys from
New Zealand but English were notorious cowards ! :-D

Since you seem to be interested in war history I would like to put you a
question.
Is it because the Wehrmacht has given your army a swimming lesson in
Dunkerque 1940 that the RAF have bombed the German *civilian* population
killing 100s thousand of innocents in 1945 ?




>>> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>>>
>>> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...
>>
>>The french words are "loyal" and "loyauté" not my fault if
>>the mass media and tabloids from the Perfid Albion don't
>>know that.
>
> Seems that these would refer to loyalty, a somewhat different concept,
> but then I'm not much of a francophone. Perhaps of course Lionel
> simply does not understand the concept of fair play? :-)

I will give you a little lesson of French because with history this seems to
be one of your major lack. The exact French translation for "fair play" is
"à la loyale". This expression was use for sport, duel, and games in
general... So use in this context it is not a different concept, this
literally means "following the rules".

Sorry to destroy one of your prefered English legend. ;-)

[George M. Middius]

Stewie said:

> >The french words are "loyal" and "loyauté" not my fault if
> >the mass media and tabloids from the Perfid Albion don't
> >know that.
>
> Seems that these would refer to loyalty, a somewhat different concept,
> but then I'm not much of a francophone. Perhaps of course Lionel
> simply does not understand the concept of fair play? :-)

Sluttie does commend Krooger's "command of logic" and "perspicacité de la
rhétorique". That should give you an idea of her general standards. Oh, and
she adores the vinified potable you Brits call "plonk".

[George M. Middius]

Stewbie said:
> >
> >> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
> >>
> >> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...
> >
> >Which country named itself after a whisky?
>
> Canada?

I believe that would have been "after a whiskey", per your own rules of
orthography.

[dave weil]

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:42:56 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:

>Why should I feel foolish ?

Because you are?

>Because you have done a stupid technical proposal to a non-existant
>problem

The problem was Ferstler's. I guess you read English as well as you
write it.

What a moron you are, little tick.

[Lionel]

In >, dave weil wrote :

> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:42:56 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>>Why should I feel foolish ?
>
> Because you are?

No.


>>Because you have done a stupid technical proposal to a non-existant
>>problem
>
> The problem was Ferstler's. I guess you read English as well as you
> write it.

LOL, thank you for acknowledge that it was a stupid technical proposal.

> What a moron you are, little tick.

What an idiot you are. Difficult to be has fat as you are, obese tick. ;-)

[Lionel_Chapuis]

George M. Middius wrote:

Oh, and
> she adores the vinified potable you Brits call "plonk".

...And George as foreseeable as ever doesn't miss an occasion to speak about things that he doesn't know.
This is what we call "la rhétorique de l'imbécile"... But you already know that isn't it ?




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[Stewart Pinkerton]

On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:02:06 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:

>In >, Stewart Pinkerton wrote :
>
>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:43:52 +0200, Lionel >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Stewart Pinkerton a écrit :
>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:48:20 +0200, Lionel >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Clyde Slick a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I haven't any heroes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course not, you are French.
>>>>>
>>>>>This wasn't exactly my point but thank you for the compliment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How do you know if there's a war in Europe?
>>>>
>>>> Paris is occupied. :-)
>>>
>>>My grand-father who was in Verdun used to say :
>>>"An assault with an English company is the most dangerous...
>>>because they're so terrified that they shoot you in the back".
>>
>> Agreed - that's why the Scotttish Highland Regiments do all the real
>> fighting.............
>
>I was only speaking about the Englishs.
>You are right concerning the Scottishs, Canadians, Australians, guys from
>New Zealand but English were notorious cowards ! :-D
>
>Since you seem to be interested in war history I would like to put you a
>question.
>Is it because the Wehrmacht has given your army a swimming lesson in
>Dunkerque 1940 that the RAF have bombed the German *civilian* population
>killing 100s thousand of innocents in 1945 ?

No, it was because the Nazis bombed the English *civilian* population
in 1940-1944, killing countless thousands. OTOH, there is no
reasonable defence for Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Tokyo.

No need to bomb Paris of course, since they could simply stroll in and
enjoy the facilities.................

>>>> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>>>>
>>>> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...
>>>
>>>The french words are "loyal" and "loyauté" not my fault if
>>>the mass media and tabloids from the Perfid Albion don't
>>>know that.
>>
>> Seems that these would refer to loyalty, a somewhat different concept,
>> but then I'm not much of a francophone. Perhaps of course Lionel
>> simply does not understand the concept of fair play? :-)
>
>I will give you a little lesson of French because with history this seems to
>be one of your major lack. The exact French translation for "fair play" is
>"à la loyale". This expression was use for sport, duel, and games in
>general... So use in this context it is not a different concept, this
>literally means "following the rules".

Not of course the same concept at all. As I suspected, a complete
mystery to the French.

Since we are on a historical bent, I don't seem to recall the rules of
the Rallye Monte Carlo including shovelling snow onto a dangerous
bend. This is what the French spectators did as the leading Porsche
911 arrived, causing it to crash out and allowing the Renault 5 to
take the lead........

In the UK, we help crashed cars back onto the road.

>Sorry to destroy one of your prefered English legend. ;-)

Not *my* English legend, laddie! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

[Stewart Pinkerton]

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:00:48 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>Stewbie said:
>> >
>> >> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>> >>
>> >> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...
>> >
>> >Which country named itself after a whisky?
>>
>> Canada?
>
>I believe that would have been "after a whiskey", per your own rules of
>orthography.

Tsk tsk, such ignorance from Hiddius. Only two countries refer to that
product as 'whisky', Scotland and Canada. Everywhere else, it's
whiskey. It's no fun when you have to *explain* your jokes........
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

[dave weil]

On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 02:15:41 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:

>Difficult to be has fat as you are, obese tick. ;-)

[dave weil]

On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 05:55:48 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
> wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:00:48 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:
>
>>Stewbie said:
>>> >
>>> >> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>>> >>
>>> >> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...
>>> >
>>> >Which country named itself after a whisky?
>>>
>>> Canada?
>>
>>I believe that would have been "after a whiskey", per your own rules of
>>orthography.
>
>Tsk tsk, such ignorance from Hiddius. Only two countries refer to that
>product as 'whisky', Scotland and Canada. Everywhere else, it's
>whiskey. It's no fun when you have to *explain* your jokes........

And after two whiskies, they invented the moose.

[Lionel]

In >, Stewart Pinkerton wrote :

> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:02:06 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>>In >, Stewart Pinkerton wrote :
>>
>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:43:52 +0200, Lionel >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Stewart Pinkerton a écrit :
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:48:20 +0200, Lionel >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Clyde Slick a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I haven't any heroes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course not, you are French.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This wasn't exactly my point but thank you for the compliment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you know if there's a war in Europe?
>>>>>
>>>>> Paris is occupied. :-)
>>>>
>>>>My grand-father who was in Verdun used to say :
>>>>"An assault with an English company is the most dangerous...
>>>>because they're so terrified that they shoot you in the back".
>>>
>>> Agreed - that's why the Scotttish Highland Regiments do all the real
>>> fighting.............
>>
>>I was only speaking about the Englishs.
>>You are right concerning the Scottishs, Canadians, Australians, guys from
>>New Zealand but English were notorious cowards ! :-D
>>
>>Since you seem to be interested in war history I would like to put you a
>>question.
>>Is it because the Wehrmacht has given your army a swimming lesson in
>>Dunkerque 1940 that the RAF have bombed the German *civilian* population
>>killing 100s thousand of innocents in 1945 ?
>
> No, it was because the Nazis bombed the English *civilian* population
> in 1940-1944, killing countless thousands. OTOH, there is no
> reasonable defence for Dresden

English "fair play" perhaps... :-(

> Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Tokyo.
>
> No need to bomb Paris of course, since they could simply stroll in and
> enjoy the facilities.................

In 1940 after Dunkerque London hasn't been occupied thanks to the sacrifice
of British and French soldiers but *mostly* thanks to the Channel.
*IMHO*, the British army was in total deroute and wouldn't have resisted 2
months to the Nazis' blitzkrieg... Like the Polish, Czech, Dutch,
Belgian... before.

>>>>> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...
>>>>
>>>>The french words are "loyal" and "loyauté" not my fault if
>>>>the mass media and tabloids from the Perfid Albion don't
>>>>know that.
>>>
>>> Seems that these would refer to loyalty, a somewhat different concept,
>>> but then I'm not much of a francophone. Perhaps of course Lionel
>>> simply does not understand the concept of fair play? :-)
>>
>>I will give you a little lesson of French because with history this seems
>>to be one of your major lack. The exact French translation for "fair play"
>>is "à la loyale". This expression was use for sport, duel, and games in
>>general... So use in this context it is not a different concept, this
>>literally means "following the rules".
>
> Not of course the same concept at all.

In France, in 99% of the cases the expression "fair play" qualifies a
*sportive* behaviour and applies to sport.
I have given you the synoymous French expression which qualifies the same
sportive values. I cannot see any difference in concept nor in context...

But if you want to grant me a demonstration of your "fair play" in the
debating trade, please elaborate your point.

:-D


> As I suspected, a complete
> mystery to the French.


And I suspect that in a complete excess of enthusiasm you are on the verge
to pretend that "hooligan" is also a french word. ;-)


> Since we are on a historical bent, I don't seem to recall the rules of
> the Rallye Monte Carlo including shovelling snow onto a dangerous
> bend. This is what the French spectators did as the leading Porsche
> 911 arrived, causing it to crash out and allowing the Renault 5 to
> take the lead........
>
> In the UK, we help crashed cars back onto the road.

No excuse for my compatriots... Every contries have their dangerous
assholes, Sir.

I'm sure you remember this event :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heysel_Stadium_disaster
IMHO if stupid jingoist French spectators have cause the defeat of a car,
"at least" they haven't killed any children !

:-(

Do you really want to continue this conversation ?


>>Sorry to destroy one of your prefered English legend. ;-)

> Not *my* English legend, laddie! :-)

I don't know if it is your legend or not but *IMHO* you aren't very
persuasive when you try to support it... :-D

I wish you a nice day, Sir.

[Lionel]

In >, dave weil wrote :

> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 02:15:41 +0200, Lionel >
> wrote:
>
>>Difficult to be has fat as you are, obese tick. ;-)

Thank you to bring in epigraph the sentence which better qualifies you...
Template man !

:-D

[Lionel]

In >, Stewart Pinkerton wrote :

> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:00:48 -0500, George M. Middius
> > wrote:
>
>>Stewbie said:
>>> >
>>> >> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>>> >>
>>> >> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair
>>> >> play...
>>> >
>>> >Which country named itself after a whisky?
>>>
>>> Canada?
>>
>>I believe that would have been "after a whiskey", per your own rules of
>>orthography.
>
> Tsk tsk, such ignorance from Hiddius. Only two countries refer to that
> product as 'whisky', Scotland and Canada. Everywhere else, it's
> whiskey. It's no fun when you have to *explain* your jokes........

Why are you so cruel ? It's not really "fairplay".

:-D

[George M. Middius]

dave weil said:

> And after two whiskies, they invented the moose.

And later that day, the Scottish Omelet.

[dave weil]

On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:16:04 +0200, Lionel >
wrote:

>Thank you to bring in epigraph the sentence

[Stewart Pinkerton]

On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:43:03 -0600, dave weil >
wrote:

>On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 05:55:48 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:00:48 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:
>>
>>>Stewbie said:
>>>> >
>>>> >> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...
>>>> >
>>>> >Which country named itself after a whisky?
>>>>
>>>> Canada?
>>>
>>>I believe that would have been "after a whiskey", per your own rules of
>>>orthography.
>>
>>Tsk tsk, such ignorance from Hiddius. Only two countries refer to that
>>product as 'whisky', Scotland and Canada. Everywhere else, it's
>>whiskey. It's no fun when you have to *explain* your jokes........
>
>And after two whiskies, they invented the moose.

Nae need tae invent the moose, laddie. Thae wee buggers have been
after ma cheese fur years! Mind ye, I'd no like tae travel tae
Scandinavia, where they tell me that a moose can wreck a Mercedes!

--

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[Stewart Pinkerton]

On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:04:04 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>dave weil said:
>
>> And after two whiskies, they invented the moose.
>
>And later that day, the Scottish Omelet.

Oh dear, not another sick joke from Hiddius, RAO's very own sick
joke.................
--

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[George M. Middius]

Stewbie said:

> >> And after two whiskies, they invented the moose.

> >And later that day, the Scottish Omelet.

> Oh dear, not another sick joke from Hiddius, RAO's very own sick
> joke.................

It's not my fault you get so drunk that you don't care what you eat.

BTW, are you back in the States these days? The Krooborg is supposedly
going to impale himself on the bright light of reality in NYC. You should
make plans to attend and cheer him on.

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[dave weil]

On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:43:16 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:43:03 -0600, dave weil >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 05:55:48 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:00:48 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Stewbie said:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> What's the French word for 'fair play'?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It's 'le fairplay', because there *is* no French word for fair play...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Which country named itself after a whisky?
>>>>>
>>>>> Canada?
>>>>
>>>>I believe that would have been "after a whiskey", per your own rules of
>>>>orthography.
>>>
>>>Tsk tsk, such ignorance from Hiddius. Only two countries refer to that
>>>product as 'whisky', Scotland and Canada. Everywhere else, it's
>>>whiskey. It's no fun when you have to *explain* your jokes........
>>
>>And after two whiskies, they invented the moose.
>
>Nae need tae invent the moose, laddie. Thae wee buggers have been
>after ma cheese fur years! Mind ye, I'd no like tae travel tae
>Scandinavia, where they tell me that a moose can wreck a Mercedes!

That's because they never learned to drive a stick shift...