New DM24 - Any Tips?

[Thomas Bishop]

I just got a Tascam DM24 for live use. That has to be the worst manual I've
ever seen. Seems like I've read that Tascam are known for their crappy
manuals. Anyway, I'm getting it set up and have a question. I have
assigned all mic/line inputs to their corresponding channels but some
channels will not come through. Not that it matters, but just for
reference, channels 1-4 and 7 & 8 are not functioning like the rest. I get
nothing on the meters, nothing going to the mains, and nothing to the aux
sends. Everything seems to be routed fine so I thought something was
damaged in the preamps. Patching from the channel inserts into a known
working channel's line in works just fine. What am I missing?

Any other hangups that you have had or tips that you can give me about this
mixer would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to have it up and running by
Sunday morning. Thanks a lot.

[jp]

Thomas Bishop wrote:
> I just got a Tascam DM24 for live use. That has to be the worst manual I've
> ever seen. Seems like I've read that Tascam are known for their crappy
> manuals. Anyway, I'm getting it set up and have a question. I have
> assigned all mic/line inputs to their corresponding channels but some
> channels will not come through. Not that it matters, but just for
> reference, channels 1-4 and 7 & 8 are not functioning like the rest. I get
> nothing on the meters, nothing going to the mains, and nothing to the aux
> sends. Everything seems to be routed fine so I thought something was
> damaged in the preamps. Patching from the channel inserts into a known
> working channel's line in works just fine. What am I missing?
>
> Any other hangups that you have had or tips that you can give me about this
> mixer would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to have it up and running by
> Sunday morning. Thanks a lot.
>
>

Make sure in the I/O screen, that channel input really is from mic/line,
not from return. Is it like that when you load a library preset ('new
mixing' etc.) Can you route the inputs 1-4/7&8 to working channels
succesfully?

There is a lot of helpful people at Tascam discussion board
http://www.vaporpark.com/invboard/
too.

-jp

[jp]

Thomas Bishop wrote:
> I just got a Tascam DM24 for live use. That has to be the worst manual I've
> ever seen. Seems like I've read that Tascam are known for their crappy
> manuals. Anyway, I'm getting it set up and have a question. I have
> assigned all mic/line inputs to their corresponding channels but some
> channels will not come through. Not that it matters, but just for
> reference, channels 1-4 and 7 & 8 are not functioning like the rest. I get
> nothing on the meters, nothing going to the mains, and nothing to the aux
> sends. Everything seems to be routed fine so I thought something was
> damaged in the preamps. Patching from the channel inserts into a known
> working channel's line in works just fine. What am I missing?
>
> Any other hangups that you have had or tips that you can give me about this
> mixer would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to have it up and running by
> Sunday morning. Thanks a lot.
>
>

Make sure in the I/O screen, that channel input really is from mic/line,
not from return. Is it like that when you load a library preset ('new
mixing' etc.) Can you route the inputs 1-4/7&8 to working channels
succesfully?

There is a lot of helpful people at Tascam discussion board
http://www.vaporpark.com/invboard/
too.

-jp

[Thomas Bishop]

"jp" > wrote in message
> Make sure in the I/O screen, that channel input really is from mic/line,
> not from return. Is it like that when you load a library preset ('new
> mixing' etc.) Can you route the inputs 1-4/7&8 to working channels
> succesfully?

Yes, the input really is from mic/line in the I/O screen. No, I cannot
route the inputs to working channels. I can route other inputs to the
non-working channels; that's what lead me to believe that it was the
preamps.

> There is a lot of helpful people at Tascam discussion board
> http://www.vaporpark.com/invboard/
> too.
>
Thanks. I'll check that out.

[Thomas Bishop]

"jp" > wrote in message
> Make sure in the I/O screen, that channel input really is from mic/line,
> not from return. Is it like that when you load a library preset ('new
> mixing' etc.) Can you route the inputs 1-4/7&8 to working channels
> succesfully?

Yes, the input really is from mic/line in the I/O screen. No, I cannot
route the inputs to working channels. I can route other inputs to the
non-working channels; that's what lead me to believe that it was the
preamps.

> There is a lot of helpful people at Tascam discussion board
> http://www.vaporpark.com/invboard/
> too.
>
Thanks. I'll check that out.

[George]

In article >,
"Thomas Bishop" > wrote:

> "jp" > wrote in message
> > Make sure in the I/O screen, that channel input really is from mic/line,
> > not from return. Is it like that when you load a library preset ('new
> > mixing' etc.) Can you route the inputs 1-4/7&8 to working channels
> > succesfully?
>
> Yes, the input really is from mic/line in the I/O screen. No, I cannot
> route the inputs to working channels. I can route other inputs to the
> non-working channels; that's what lead me to believe that it was the
> preamps.
>
> > There is a lot of helpful people at Tascam discussion board
> > http://www.vaporpark.com/invboard/
> > too.
> >
> Thanks. I'll check that out.
>
>

sorry Tom I am really not familiar with this unit
if it has inserts (most digitals don't) you can bypass the pres and
inject signal at that point
g

[George]

In article >,
"Thomas Bishop" > wrote:

> "jp" > wrote in message
> > Make sure in the I/O screen, that channel input really is from mic/line,
> > not from return. Is it like that when you load a library preset ('new
> > mixing' etc.) Can you route the inputs 1-4/7&8 to working channels
> > succesfully?
>
> Yes, the input really is from mic/line in the I/O screen. No, I cannot
> route the inputs to working channels. I can route other inputs to the
> non-working channels; that's what lead me to believe that it was the
> preamps.
>
> > There is a lot of helpful people at Tascam discussion board
> > http://www.vaporpark.com/invboard/
> > too.
> >
> Thanks. I'll check that out.
>
>

sorry Tom I am really not familiar with this unit
if it has inserts (most digitals don't) you can bypass the pres and
inject signal at that point
g

[Mike Rivers]

In article > writes:

> I just got a Tascam DM24 for live use. That has to be the worst manual I've
> ever seen. Seems like I've read that Tascam are known for their crappy
> manuals.

I think it might be one of the worst mixers for live use, but TASCAM
did have that application in mind when they built it (or maybe after
they built it and tried to figure out how to sell more of them). I
know that they had a new manual (written by former Recording editor
Nick Batzdorf - they asked him before they asked me) which addressed
three primary applications - studio recording, post production, and
live sound. I haven't seen the manual so I don't know how good it is,
but Nick's a good writer and a real user, so either you don't have the
manual he wrote or he really missed the boat (or you have).

> Anyway, I'm getting it set up and have a question. I have
> assigned all mic/line inputs to their corresponding channels but some
> channels will not come through. Not that it matters, but just for
> reference, channels 1-4 and 7 & 8 are not functioning like the rest. I get
> nothing on the meters, nothing going to the mains, and nothing to the aux
> sends. Everything seems to be routed fine

There are so many ways to not get sound out of a console, and they're
harder to find on a digital console when you can't see everything at
once. Just go through it methodically and either you'll find the
problem or conclude that it's indeed broken.

Did you buy it second-hand?


--
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However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

[Mike Rivers]

In article > writes:

> I just got a Tascam DM24 for live use. That has to be the worst manual I've
> ever seen. Seems like I've read that Tascam are known for their crappy
> manuals.

I think it might be one of the worst mixers for live use, but TASCAM
did have that application in mind when they built it (or maybe after
they built it and tried to figure out how to sell more of them). I
know that they had a new manual (written by former Recording editor
Nick Batzdorf - they asked him before they asked me) which addressed
three primary applications - studio recording, post production, and
live sound. I haven't seen the manual so I don't know how good it is,
but Nick's a good writer and a real user, so either you don't have the
manual he wrote or he really missed the boat (or you have).

> Anyway, I'm getting it set up and have a question. I have
> assigned all mic/line inputs to their corresponding channels but some
> channels will not come through. Not that it matters, but just for
> reference, channels 1-4 and 7 & 8 are not functioning like the rest. I get
> nothing on the meters, nothing going to the mains, and nothing to the aux
> sends. Everything seems to be routed fine

There are so many ways to not get sound out of a console, and they're
harder to find on a digital console when you can't see everything at
once. Just go through it methodically and either you'll find the
problem or conclude that it's indeed broken.

Did you buy it second-hand?


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

[Thomas Bishop]

"Mike Rivers" > wrote in message
> I think it might be one of the worst mixers for live use, but TASCAM
> did have that application in mind when they built it (or maybe after
> they built it and tried to figure out how to sell more of them).

I have heard great things about it for live use. I use and really like a
Spirit 328, but after having problems with it rebooting decided to stay away
from another one.

> know that they had a new manual (written by former Recording editor
> Nick Batzdorf - they asked him before they asked me) which addressed
> three primary applications - studio recording, post production, and
> live sound. I haven't seen the manual so I don't know how good it is,
> but Nick's a good writer and a real user, so either you don't have the
> manual he wrote or he really missed the boat (or you have).

I'll have to look into that.

> There are so many ways to not get sound out of a console, and they're
> harder to find on a digital console when you can't see everything at
> once. Just go through it methodically and either you'll find the
> problem or conclude that it's indeed broken.

I know. It is so much more simple on my 328; it's more straight-forward and
intuitive.

> Did you buy it second-hand?

Yes, I did. It was used for one session then sold to me. I e-mailed the
owner and he never even got familiar enough with it to give me much help.

[Thomas Bishop]

"Mike Rivers" > wrote in message
> I think it might be one of the worst mixers for live use, but TASCAM
> did have that application in mind when they built it (or maybe after
> they built it and tried to figure out how to sell more of them).

I have heard great things about it for live use. I use and really like a
Spirit 328, but after having problems with it rebooting decided to stay away
from another one.

> know that they had a new manual (written by former Recording editor
> Nick Batzdorf - they asked him before they asked me) which addressed
> three primary applications - studio recording, post production, and
> live sound. I haven't seen the manual so I don't know how good it is,
> but Nick's a good writer and a real user, so either you don't have the
> manual he wrote or he really missed the boat (or you have).

I'll have to look into that.

> There are so many ways to not get sound out of a console, and they're
> harder to find on a digital console when you can't see everything at
> once. Just go through it methodically and either you'll find the
> problem or conclude that it's indeed broken.

I know. It is so much more simple on my 328; it's more straight-forward and
intuitive.

> Did you buy it second-hand?

Yes, I did. It was used for one session then sold to me. I e-mailed the
owner and he never even got familiar enough with it to give me much help.

[jp]

Thomas Bishop wrote:
>
> Yes, the input really is from mic/line in the I/O screen. No, I cannot
> route the inputs to working channels. I can route other inputs to the
> non-working channels; that's what lead me to believe that it was the
> preamps.
>


Defective insert jacks on these channels? What if you connect an
outboard compressor to the insert of non-working input?

-jp

[jp]

Thomas Bishop wrote:
>
> Yes, the input really is from mic/line in the I/O screen. No, I cannot
> route the inputs to working channels. I can route other inputs to the
> non-working channels; that's what lead me to believe that it was the
> preamps.
>


Defective insert jacks on these channels? What if you connect an
outboard compressor to the insert of non-working input?

-jp