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DaveDrummer
October 4th 03, 11:45 PM
What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such a
powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
just amazing to me. thanks
Dave
LeBaron & Alrich
October 5th 03, 12:29 AM
DaveDrummer wrote:
> What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such a
> powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
> just amazing to me. thanks
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LeBaron & Alrich
October 5th 03, 12:29 AM
DaveDrummer wrote:
> What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such a
> powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
> just amazing to me. thanks
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WillStG
October 5th 03, 03:04 AM
>What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such a
powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is just
amazing to me. thanks>
There were several engineers who recorded Bonham. Here's one of my
favorites, Glyn Johns.
http://www.danalexanderaudio.com/glynjohns.htm
Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits
WillStG
October 5th 03, 03:04 AM
>What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such a
powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is just
amazing to me. thanks>
There were several engineers who recorded Bonham. Here's one of my
favorites, Glyn Johns.
http://www.danalexanderaudio.com/glynjohns.htm
Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits
Om_Audio
October 5th 03, 10:45 AM
I heard one classic sound was a Telecaster through a really small Fender
tube amp in a big ass room with lots of mics- close- behind- far- etc.- and
got this huge sound- no LP- no Marshall- hehe- gotta love the spirit of
creative experimentation in this buisness- gives me hope and inspiration
regularly.
Om
"DaveDrummer" > wrote in message
...
> What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such
a
> powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
> just amazing to me. thanks
>
> Dave
>
>
Om_Audio
October 5th 03, 10:45 AM
I heard one classic sound was a Telecaster through a really small Fender
tube amp in a big ass room with lots of mics- close- behind- far- etc.- and
got this huge sound- no LP- no Marshall- hehe- gotta love the spirit of
creative experimentation in this buisness- gives me hope and inspiration
regularly.
Om
"DaveDrummer" > wrote in message
...
> What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such
a
> powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
> just amazing to me. thanks
>
> Dave
>
>
Fletcher
October 5th 03, 03:46 PM
DaveDrummer wrote:
> What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such a
> powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
> just amazing to me. thanks
The mics were like 2x U-67's and an AKG D-20 or 25 or 30 if I remember the
legends correctly... but it matters not. The mics were the least of the
process... the rooms played a huge factor, the tuning of the drums [kind of
"jazz" tunings] were even more important but all of these factors still pale in
comparison to the most major factor of the LZ drum sound: John Bonham.
Yeah, it's not too tough to put some slap on the snare... it's not too tough to
tune the drums right... it's definitely a walk in the park to book a good
sounding room and throw up some microphones... but unless you have some
mother****er of an operator... one that can sit in the pocket while doing ****
like laying down a 'second line' groove with the foot while fitting the snare
in on the back edge of the beat while staying perfectly in time with snare
slap... you're screwed.
--
Fletcher
Mercenary Audio
TEL: 508-543-0069
FAX: 508-543-9670
http://www.mercenary.com
"this is not a problem"
Fletcher
October 5th 03, 03:46 PM
DaveDrummer wrote:
> What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such a
> powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
> just amazing to me. thanks
The mics were like 2x U-67's and an AKG D-20 or 25 or 30 if I remember the
legends correctly... but it matters not. The mics were the least of the
process... the rooms played a huge factor, the tuning of the drums [kind of
"jazz" tunings] were even more important but all of these factors still pale in
comparison to the most major factor of the LZ drum sound: John Bonham.
Yeah, it's not too tough to put some slap on the snare... it's not too tough to
tune the drums right... it's definitely a walk in the park to book a good
sounding room and throw up some microphones... but unless you have some
mother****er of an operator... one that can sit in the pocket while doing ****
like laying down a 'second line' groove with the foot while fitting the snare
in on the back edge of the beat while staying perfectly in time with snare
slap... you're screwed.
--
Fletcher
Mercenary Audio
TEL: 508-543-0069
FAX: 508-543-9670
http://www.mercenary.com
"this is not a problem"
David Morley
October 5th 03, 04:13 PM
In article >,
Fletcher > wrote:
>
> Yeah, it's not too tough to put some slap on the snare... it's not too tough
> to
> tune the drums right... it's definitely a walk in the park to book a good
> sounding room and throw up some microphones... but unless you have some
> mother****er of an operator... one that can sit in the pocket while doing
> ****
> like laying down a 'second line' groove with the foot while fitting the snare
> in on the back edge of the beat while staying perfectly in time with snare
> slap... you're screwed.
> --
> Fletcher
> Mercenary Audio
Like Ringo?
David Morley
October 5th 03, 04:13 PM
In article >,
Fletcher > wrote:
>
> Yeah, it's not too tough to put some slap on the snare... it's not too tough
> to
> tune the drums right... it's definitely a walk in the park to book a good
> sounding room and throw up some microphones... but unless you have some
> mother****er of an operator... one that can sit in the pocket while doing
> ****
> like laying down a 'second line' groove with the foot while fitting the snare
> in on the back edge of the beat while staying perfectly in time with snare
> slap... you're screwed.
> --
> Fletcher
> Mercenary Audio
Like Ringo?
Fill X
October 5th 03, 07:01 PM
the tele through the supro thunderbolt was the first album I believe. Mic
selection varied according to engineer.
P h i l i p
______________________________
"I'm too ****ing busy and vice-versa"
- Dorothy Parker
Fill X
October 5th 03, 07:01 PM
the tele through the supro thunderbolt was the first album I believe. Mic
selection varied according to engineer.
P h i l i p
______________________________
"I'm too ****ing busy and vice-versa"
- Dorothy Parker
Ken Platt
October 5th 03, 09:17 PM
I think the folklore says that was a Supro amp .
ciao
ken
"Om_Audio" > wrote in message
. net...
> I heard one classic sound was a Telecaster through a really small Fender
> tube amp in a big ass room with lots of mics- close- behind- far- etc.-
and
> got this huge sound- no LP- no Marshall- hehe- gotta love the spirit of
> creative experimentation in this buisness- gives me hope and inspiration
> regularly.
>
> Om
>
> "DaveDrummer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get
such
> a
> > powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound
is
> > just amazing to me. thanks
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
>
Ken Platt
October 5th 03, 09:17 PM
I think the folklore says that was a Supro amp .
ciao
ken
"Om_Audio" > wrote in message
. net...
> I heard one classic sound was a Telecaster through a really small Fender
> tube amp in a big ass room with lots of mics- close- behind- far- etc.-
and
> got this huge sound- no LP- no Marshall- hehe- gotta love the spirit of
> creative experimentation in this buisness- gives me hope and inspiration
> regularly.
>
> Om
>
> "DaveDrummer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get
such
> a
> > powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound
is
> > just amazing to me. thanks
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
>
Higgs
October 6th 03, 12:34 AM
"DaveDrummer" > wrote in message >...
> What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such a
> powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
> just amazing to me. thanks
>
> Dave
Maybe this will help.
http://www.uaudio.com/andyjohns/index.html
-Higgs
Higgs
October 6th 03, 12:34 AM
"DaveDrummer" > wrote in message >...
> What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such a
> powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
> just amazing to me. thanks
>
> Dave
Maybe this will help.
http://www.uaudio.com/andyjohns/index.html
-Higgs
LeBaron & Alrich
October 6th 03, 01:27 AM
Higgs wrote:
> "DaveDrummer" wrote:
> > What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such a
> > powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
> > just amazing to me. thanks
> Maybe this will help.
> http://www.uaudio.com/andyjohns/index.html
But will it tell me where I can rent that drummer? <g>
--
ha
LeBaron & Alrich
October 6th 03, 01:27 AM
Higgs wrote:
> "DaveDrummer" wrote:
> > What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such a
> > powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
> > just amazing to me. thanks
> Maybe this will help.
> http://www.uaudio.com/andyjohns/index.html
But will it tell me where I can rent that drummer? <g>
--
ha
david
October 6th 03, 08:13 AM
In article >, LeBaron &
Alrich > wrote:
> Higgs wrote:
>
> > "DaveDrummer" wrote:
>
> > > What types of mics, what was the setup, and how did Led Zeppelin get such
> > > a
> > > powerful sound? I understand their micing was very basic. yet the sound is
> > > just amazing to me. thanks
>
> > Maybe this will help.
>
> > http://www.uaudio.com/andyjohns/index.html
>
> But will it tell me where I can rent that drummer? <g>
Today I think the question would be "what plug-in gets that sound?"
David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island
www.CelebrationSound.com
david > wrote in message >...
>
> Today I think the question would be "what plug-in gets that sound?"
>
It's funny how on an audio newsgroup dedicated to production
techniques, gear, etc., the obvious fact of the talent needs to be
pointed out. Whereas, on a fan site they'd just be talking about how
cool the parts are, rather than what mic was on the bass drum. Not
that I don't want to know but sheesh, if you had half that talent
playing in your room, you could put up just about any mics and it'd
sound good. It's a shoo-in.
Tom
david > wrote in message >...
>
> Today I think the question would be "what plug-in gets that sound?"
>
It's funny how on an audio newsgroup dedicated to production
techniques, gear, etc., the obvious fact of the talent needs to be
pointed out. Whereas, on a fan site they'd just be talking about how
cool the parts are, rather than what mic was on the bass drum. Not
that I don't want to know but sheesh, if you had half that talent
playing in your room, you could put up just about any mics and it'd
sound good. It's a shoo-in.
Tom
Ken/Eleven Shadows
October 6th 03, 11:44 PM
I've heard some bootlegs of Led Zeppelin in the studio for the
Physical Graffiti sessions. You can hear them running through songs
such as "In My Time of Dying" and others. Through it all, they sound
great. I don't know what it was recorded on exactly, but it sounds
like it's simply a microphone in the room. Bonham *still* sounds
great. So much of it was obviously about the players, the songs, the
arrangements, the finesse, everything. It is interesting to know what
was used to record these guys, but if you put up the exact same mics
around the exact same equipment but had four different guys playing
it, it just wouldn't sound like them.
wrote in message >...
> david > wrote in message >...
> >
> > Today I think the question would be "what plug-in gets that sound?"
> >
> It's funny how on an audio newsgroup dedicated to production
> techniques, gear, etc., the obvious fact of the talent needs to be
> pointed out. Whereas, on a fan site they'd just be talking about how
> cool the parts are, rather than what mic was on the bass drum. Not
> that I don't want to know but sheesh, if you had half that talent
> playing in your room, you could put up just about any mics and it'd
> sound good. It's a shoo-in.
>
>
> Tom
Ken/Eleven Shadows
October 6th 03, 11:44 PM
I've heard some bootlegs of Led Zeppelin in the studio for the
Physical Graffiti sessions. You can hear them running through songs
such as "In My Time of Dying" and others. Through it all, they sound
great. I don't know what it was recorded on exactly, but it sounds
like it's simply a microphone in the room. Bonham *still* sounds
great. So much of it was obviously about the players, the songs, the
arrangements, the finesse, everything. It is interesting to know what
was used to record these guys, but if you put up the exact same mics
around the exact same equipment but had four different guys playing
it, it just wouldn't sound like them.
wrote in message >...
> david > wrote in message >...
> >
> > Today I think the question would be "what plug-in gets that sound?"
> >
> It's funny how on an audio newsgroup dedicated to production
> techniques, gear, etc., the obvious fact of the talent needs to be
> pointed out. Whereas, on a fan site they'd just be talking about how
> cool the parts are, rather than what mic was on the bass drum. Not
> that I don't want to know but sheesh, if you had half that talent
> playing in your room, you could put up just about any mics and it'd
> sound good. It's a shoo-in.
>
>
> Tom
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