Iain Churches[_2_]
February 5th 09, 10:34 AM
I bring this post over from elsewhere to a more
learned forum. . It seems that Mr Krueger, despite
his claim to be a "professional recording engineer"
has no formal education in either recording or
music, neither does he own, or have access to,
the training manuals with which recording
personnel are familiar.
It seems that Wiki and "Goggle" (sic) are the
sources of the technical foundation on which
his sound recording expertise is based:-)
Hmmm:-)
Please read on......
"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Iain Churches" > wrote in message
> i.fi
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Iain Churches" > wrote in message
>>> i.fi
>>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> Differentiate foldback and monitor? In your dreams,
>>>>> Iain:
>>>
>>> <Iain snipped a Wikipedia article that shows him up for
>>> the ignorant bozo that he is>
>>
>> Any fool can write on Wiki. There are frequently blatant
>> errors. A proper set or BBC or EBU training manuals is a
>> much more reliable source of accurate and complete
>> information.
>>>> Study the EBU training manuals.
>>>
>>> Which of the several thousand EBU documents do you mean?
>>> You know, they do have unique names. LOL!
>>
>> Find them. There is a complete set dedicated to broadcast
>> procedures and terminology. At the same time, look up
>> "recordist" and "condenser" :-)))
>
> IOW Iain, you were just throwing the good name of the EBU about. You have
> no clue.
I have most of their relevant material, including
sound for television. My work illustrates my
level of competence, and what I have leaned
(been taught) from the material covered in
those and other manuals,and from the challenges
presented by each and every session.
But then of course, so does yours :-) LOL
I also have some of the incomparable BBC manuals,
given to me by a very good friend who was a lecturer
there for many years. My library also includes reams
of handwritten lecture notes, from Decca, and also
material from RCA, Westrex, Neumann
(disc cutting and mic info) Studer, Neve, SSL.
And of course JAES publications and a large
shelf of well-thumbed orchestral scores.
>> Iani, it is obvious that you have far more lip service
>> to school learning about live sound than practical
>> smarts.
A formal training in music recording includes much
theory, a great deal of studio practice with ensembles
ranging from jazz trios to symphony orchestras, plus
vocal soloists and ensembles. There is also a great
deal of music to be studied, ad even familiarity with
the standard reportoire is only thje tip of the ice-berg.
So your infamous "been there, done that" is
meaningless in real life.
> Any real professional can run rings round you in either
> as has been clearly shown.
Oh really?
Yes really. Your reluctance to post any material for
general appraisal is confirmation of this. Just think,
if you could post something to surpass what I, John,
Jenn, Bob, Mike Peters, Mike G, Kevin, or many
others, could offer. What a feather in your cap
that would be!! Of course, you dare not take the
risk:-)
>>You flout your so-called
>> expertise, but dare not let anyone else here audition one
>> of your recordings. That tells most what they need to
>> know.
>Iain, if I thought that my recordings would get a fair appraisal from
>someone who mattered, things would be different.
Perhaps I am biased against you, but that is due to your
nauseous religious hypocricy, not your (lack of) recording skills.
But I am sure that the rest of the people I mention above, plus
TT, Ruff etc etc would give you a fair hearing. But still,
you dare not take the chance.
Actually, no comment would probably be required.
Just a linear comnparison, 16 bars cut or cross faded
into 16 bars. That would suffice nicely.
But, to paraphrase Marshal Joseph Joffre, when
he began to comprehend the situation at the
First Battle of the Marne in WW1: ... "Vous etes
dans un pot de chambre, et vous y serez emmerdes"
>> Many of us still remember, and smile about the
>> way you tried to "correct the audiophool misconceptions"
>> of two very erudite gentlemen from the BBC:-)
>You have no evidence of that to show, either.
You have no doubt, cleaned up the archive, but I
correspond with about half a dozen people, including
the two gentlemen concerned, who remember it well
and laugh about it often.
>> Arny. You turn every thread in which you participate
>> into a shambles.
>That happens Iain when you see me coming and start wetting and soiling
>yourself in public.
What a coarse, sordid born-again Christian you are:-(
Iain
learned forum. . It seems that Mr Krueger, despite
his claim to be a "professional recording engineer"
has no formal education in either recording or
music, neither does he own, or have access to,
the training manuals with which recording
personnel are familiar.
It seems that Wiki and "Goggle" (sic) are the
sources of the technical foundation on which
his sound recording expertise is based:-)
Hmmm:-)
Please read on......
"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Iain Churches" > wrote in message
> i.fi
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Iain Churches" > wrote in message
>>> i.fi
>>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> Differentiate foldback and monitor? In your dreams,
>>>>> Iain:
>>>
>>> <Iain snipped a Wikipedia article that shows him up for
>>> the ignorant bozo that he is>
>>
>> Any fool can write on Wiki. There are frequently blatant
>> errors. A proper set or BBC or EBU training manuals is a
>> much more reliable source of accurate and complete
>> information.
>>>> Study the EBU training manuals.
>>>
>>> Which of the several thousand EBU documents do you mean?
>>> You know, they do have unique names. LOL!
>>
>> Find them. There is a complete set dedicated to broadcast
>> procedures and terminology. At the same time, look up
>> "recordist" and "condenser" :-)))
>
> IOW Iain, you were just throwing the good name of the EBU about. You have
> no clue.
I have most of their relevant material, including
sound for television. My work illustrates my
level of competence, and what I have leaned
(been taught) from the material covered in
those and other manuals,and from the challenges
presented by each and every session.
But then of course, so does yours :-) LOL
I also have some of the incomparable BBC manuals,
given to me by a very good friend who was a lecturer
there for many years. My library also includes reams
of handwritten lecture notes, from Decca, and also
material from RCA, Westrex, Neumann
(disc cutting and mic info) Studer, Neve, SSL.
And of course JAES publications and a large
shelf of well-thumbed orchestral scores.
>> Iani, it is obvious that you have far more lip service
>> to school learning about live sound than practical
>> smarts.
A formal training in music recording includes much
theory, a great deal of studio practice with ensembles
ranging from jazz trios to symphony orchestras, plus
vocal soloists and ensembles. There is also a great
deal of music to be studied, ad even familiarity with
the standard reportoire is only thje tip of the ice-berg.
So your infamous "been there, done that" is
meaningless in real life.
> Any real professional can run rings round you in either
> as has been clearly shown.
Oh really?
Yes really. Your reluctance to post any material for
general appraisal is confirmation of this. Just think,
if you could post something to surpass what I, John,
Jenn, Bob, Mike Peters, Mike G, Kevin, or many
others, could offer. What a feather in your cap
that would be!! Of course, you dare not take the
risk:-)
>>You flout your so-called
>> expertise, but dare not let anyone else here audition one
>> of your recordings. That tells most what they need to
>> know.
>Iain, if I thought that my recordings would get a fair appraisal from
>someone who mattered, things would be different.
Perhaps I am biased against you, but that is due to your
nauseous religious hypocricy, not your (lack of) recording skills.
But I am sure that the rest of the people I mention above, plus
TT, Ruff etc etc would give you a fair hearing. But still,
you dare not take the chance.
Actually, no comment would probably be required.
Just a linear comnparison, 16 bars cut or cross faded
into 16 bars. That would suffice nicely.
But, to paraphrase Marshal Joseph Joffre, when
he began to comprehend the situation at the
First Battle of the Marne in WW1: ... "Vous etes
dans un pot de chambre, et vous y serez emmerdes"
>> Many of us still remember, and smile about the
>> way you tried to "correct the audiophool misconceptions"
>> of two very erudite gentlemen from the BBC:-)
>You have no evidence of that to show, either.
You have no doubt, cleaned up the archive, but I
correspond with about half a dozen people, including
the two gentlemen concerned, who remember it well
and laugh about it often.
>> Arny. You turn every thread in which you participate
>> into a shambles.
>That happens Iain when you see me coming and start wetting and soiling
>yourself in public.
What a coarse, sordid born-again Christian you are:-(
Iain