Re: Arny the engineer

[Arny Krueger]

"John Atkinson" > wrote in
message

> On Jan 30, 12:44 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>> message
>>
>>> On Jan 30, 7:53 am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 29, 11:27 pm, "TT"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...>
>>>>>> "Harry Lavo" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Judging from his ABX website, I'm sure it is right
>>>>>>>> up there with his work as an "audio professional".
>>>>>>>> And just as available,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Post a working URL for the ABX web site or admit
>>>>>>> that you are lying about it existing, Harry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.pcabx.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, memories! Mr. Krueger used to claim that this
>>>>> site had 1000s of visitors every month, that it
>>>>> rivaled the sites run by magazines. Yet now it
>>>>> only exists courtesy of the [obsessive] servers
>>>>> at web.archive.org :-)
>>>>
>>>> Except they don't have most of the site. Actually,
>>>> hardly any of it at all.
>>>
>>> External features aren't preserved, of course, as the
>>> servers that stored them are presumably repurposed or
>>> defunct.
>>
>> So what are you saying John, is the site as I said, or
>> not?
>
> You are incorrect, Mr. Krueger. The pages I visited were
> complete enough for the skill of those involved in the
> website to be judged.
>
>>> But the core of your dead site is preserved,
>>> which is sufficient to support Harry Lavo's statement.
>>
>> Nope. Remember, I know what the site is supposed to be
>> like.
>
> And everyone else can still _see_ what it looked like,
> Mr. Krueger and form our own opinions on your skills as a
> "professional" website operator.
>
>> where are all the tests of representative low
>> cost CD players that you've promised and not delivered?
>
> I see you are now playing the game you've played
> before, Mr. Krueger: that if you don't click on a link
> I've provided you in another thread, you can say in
> _this_thread that the page's contents don't exist.

Even when I clicked on the link you subsequently provided John, there were
no tests of ca. $50 DVD players.

There was a review of a $6,000 media server that Marc tells me needs a fix
that is avaiable from the factory, a review of an obsolete game console that
is still being offered for almost $200, and a $150 universal DVD player that
you trashed using weird science.

Not even one review of a ca. $50 DVD player, and such information that was
provided was one-dimensional.

"According to John Atkinson jitter is the sole determiner of digital player
quality. Furthermore, jitter and only jitter defines sound quality no matter
how low the jitter actually is".

After all, who is the AES when we have an authority like John Atkinson to
show us the light?

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Jan 30, 4:26 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>
>> Arny Krueger demanded:
> >> where are all the tests of representative low
> >> cost CD players that you've promised and not delivered?
> >
> > I see you are now playing the game you've played
> > before, Mr. Krueger: that if you don't click on a link
> > I've provided you in another thread, you can say in
> > _this_thread that the page's contents don't exist.
>
> Even when I clicked on the link you subsequently provided
> John, there were no tests of ca. $50 DVD players.

Your words above, Mr. Krueger, were "representative low
cost CD players." Now you say "ca. $50 DVD players."

> There was a review of an obsolete game console that
> is still being offered for almost $200...

Typical price on eBay is $25-$35. The first-generation PS1
is in widespread use as a budget CD player.

> and a $150 universal DVD player...

Right. In their circuit design and parts selection, these
2 players are indeed representative of what you
can buy at the low end of the player market. They offer
analog noise floors that are above the CD's intrinsic
noise, limiting resolution in one case (published in
the magazine but not in this article) to around 14
bits, and they have fairly high levels of jitter. You
don't have to spend that much more -- see the
Onkyo DX-7555 measurement in the jitter article --
to get measured performance that will not
compromise CD playback.

> "According to John Atkinson jitter is the sole determiner
> of digital player quality. Furthermore, jitter and only jitter
> defines sound quality no matter how low the jitter actually is".

I don't know who you are quoting here, Mr. Krueger,
but I have never claimed anything like this. Perhaps
you are confusing me with someone else.

> After all, who is the AES when we have an authority like
> John Atkinson to show us the light?

Well, I am a long-term full member of the AES and
you, despite your belief in scientism, Mr. Krueger,
are not. :-)

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 30, 4:12*pm, John Atkinson > wrote:
> On Jan 30, 4:26 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> > "According to John Atkinson jitter is the sole determiner
> > of digital player quality. Furthermore, jitter and only jitter
> > defines sound quality no matter how low the jitter actually is".
>
> I don't know who you are quoting here, Mr. Krueger,
> but I have never claimed anything like this. Perhaps
> you are confusing me with someone else.

Or creating yet another strawman, which is GOIA's second favorite
"debating trade" trick (behind the well-known "IKYABWAI".)

> > After all, who is the AES when we have an authority like
> > John Atkinson to show us the light?
>
> Well, I am a long-term full member of the AES and
> you, despite your belief in scientism, Mr. Krueger,
> are not. :-)

I find your usage of smileys as confusing as 2pid does.

To me it appears that you are laughing at GOIA. Laughing at the
mentally-handicapped is not nice. :-(

[Arny Krueger]

"John Atkinson" > wrote in
message

> On Jan 30, 4:26 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>>
>>> Arny Krueger demanded:
>>>> where are all the tests of representative low
>>>> cost CD players that you've promised and not delivered?
>>>
>>> I see you are now playing the game you've played
>>> before, Mr. Krueger: that if you don't click on a link
>>> I've provided you in another thread, you can say in
>>> _this_thread that the page's contents don't exist.
>>
>> Even when I clicked on the link you subsequently provided
>> John, there were no tests of ca. $50 DVD players.
>
> Your words above, Mr. Krueger, were "representative low
> cost CD players." Now you say "ca. $50 DVD players."
>
>> There was a review of an obsolete game console that
>> is still being offered for almost $200...

> Typical price on eBay is $25-$35. The first-generation PS1
> is in widespread use as a budget CD player.

So John, you think its fair to suddenly shift from discussing prices for
new equipment to prices for used equipment?

>> and a $150 universal DVD player...

> Right. In their circuit design and parts selection, these
> 2 players are indeed representative of what you
> can buy at the low end of the player market.

Prove it. I see zero evidence about ca. $50 DVD players.

> They offer
> analog noise floors that are above the CD's intrinsic
> noise, limiting resolution in one case (published in
> the magazine but not in this article) to around 14
> bits,

Note that John does not document which player he is talking about.

> and they have fairly high levels of jitter.

Not nearly as bad as one of the high end players that you tested.

> You don't have to spend that much more -- see the
> Onkyo DX-7555 measurement in the jitter article --
> to get measured performance that will not
> compromise CD playback.

John you're all about numbers and not at all about actually playing
recordings or doing proper listening tests.

The very best orchestral recording I've been able to find has about 82 dB
dynamic range. Playing it on a player with 92 dB dynamic range only hurts
the effective dynamic range by a fraction of a dB. And its all moot,
because if you play the recording at sensible volume levels the ambient
noise in just about any residential listening room will mask it all.


>> "According to John Atkinson jitter is the sole determiner
>> of digital player quality. Furthermore, jitter and only
>> jitter defines sound quality no matter how low the
>> jitter actually is".

> I don't know who you are quoting here, Mr. Krueger,
> but I have never claimed anything like this.

John the above is what you are saying when you start doing articles that
purport to judge CD players by just one parameter of the several that are
actually relevant.


>> After all, who is the AES when we have an authority like
>> John Atkinson to show us the light?

> Well, I am a long-term full member of the AES and
> you, despite your belief in scientism, Mr. Krueger,
> are not. :-)

So what? In my case I actually believe and act on much of what the AES
publishes. In your case, your membership in the AES seems to be in name,
only.

[Harry Lavo]

"John Atkinson" > wrote in message
...
> On Jan 30, 4:26 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>>
>>> Arny Krueger demanded:
>> >> where are all the tests of representative low
>> >> cost CD players that you've promised and not delivered?
>> >
>> > I see you are now playing the game you've played
>> > before, Mr. Krueger: that if you don't click on a link
>> > I've provided you in another thread, you can say in
>> > _this_thread that the page's contents don't exist.
>>
>> Even when I clicked on the link you subsequently provided
>> John, there were no tests of ca. $50 DVD players.
>
> Your words above, Mr. Krueger, were "representative low
> cost CD players." Now you say "ca. $50 DVD players."
>
>> There was a review of an obsolete game console that
>> is still being offered for almost $200...
>
> Typical price on eBay is $25-$35. The first-generation PS1
> is in widespread use as a budget CD player.
>
>> and a $150 universal DVD player...
>
> Right. In their circuit design and parts selection, these
> 2 players are indeed representative of what you
> can buy at the low end of the player market. They offer
> analog noise floors that are above the CD's intrinsic
> noise, limiting resolution in one case (published in
> the magazine but not in this article) to around 14
> bits, and they have fairly high levels of jitter. You
> don't have to spend that much more -- see the
> Onkyo DX-7555 measurement in the jitter article --
> to get measured performance that will not
> compromise CD playback.
>
>> "According to John Atkinson jitter is the sole determiner
>> of digital player quality. Furthermore, jitter and only jitter
>> defines sound quality no matter how low the jitter actually is".
>
> I don't know who you are quoting here, Mr. Krueger,
> but I have never claimed anything like this. Perhaps
> you are confusing me with someone else.
>
>> After all, who is the AES when we have an authority like
>> John Atkinson to show us the light?
>
> Well, I am a long-term full member of the AES and
> you, despite your belief in scientism, Mr. Krueger,
> are not. :-)
>

Arny's belief in scientism does not stretch to cover an $85 associate
membership, John. You need to remember who you are talking about. :-)

[Arny Krueger]

"Harry Lavo" > wrote in message

> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> message
> ...
>> On Jan 30, 4:26 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>>>
>>>> Arny Krueger demanded:
>>>>> where are all the tests of representative low
>>>>> cost CD players that you've promised and not
>>>>> delivered?
>>>>
>>>> I see you are now playing the game you've played
>>>> before, Mr. Krueger: that if you don't click on a link
>>>> I've provided you in another thread, you can say in
>>>> _this_thread that the page's contents don't exist.
>>>
>>> Even when I clicked on the link you subsequently
>>> provided John, there were no tests of ca. $50 DVD players.
>>
>> Your words above, Mr. Krueger, were "representative low
>> cost CD players." Now you say "ca. $50 DVD players."
>>
>>> There was a review of an obsolete game console that
>>> is still being offered for almost $200...
>>
>> Typical price on eBay is $25-$35. The first-generation
>> PS1 is in widespread use as a budget CD player.
>>
>>> and a $150 universal DVD player...
>>
>> Right. In their circuit design and parts selection, these
>> 2 players are indeed representative of what you
>> can buy at the low end of the player market. They offer
>> analog noise floors that are above the CD's intrinsic
>> noise, limiting resolution in one case (published in
>> the magazine but not in this article) to around 14
>> bits, and they have fairly high levels of jitter. You
>> don't have to spend that much more -- see the
>> Onkyo DX-7555 measurement in the jitter article --
>> to get measured performance that will not
>> compromise CD playback.
>>
>>> "According to John Atkinson jitter is the sole
>>> determiner of digital player quality. Furthermore, jitter and only
>>> jitter defines sound quality no matter how low the
>>> jitter actually is".
>>
>> I don't know who you are quoting here, Mr. Krueger,
>> but I have never claimed anything like this. Perhaps
>> you are confusing me with someone else.
>>
>>> After all, who is the AES when we have an authority like
>>> John Atkinson to show us the light?
>>
>> Well, I am a long-term full member of the AES and
>> you, despite your belief in scientism, Mr. Krueger,
>> are not. :-)
>>
>
> Arny's belief in scientism does not stretch to cover an
> $85 associate membership, John. You need to remember who
> you are talking about. :-)

I have no belief in scientism to stretch.

I understand that "Scientism" is a new age perjorative that actually means
"Science classes always gave me a headache because I have no aptitude or
patience for it so it must be a religion and I hate all religions".

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Jan 30, 8:27 pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 4:12 pm, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > On Jan 30, 4:26 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > "According to John Atkinson jitter is the sole determiner
> > > of digital player quality. Furthermore, jitter and only jitter
> > > defines sound quality no matter how low the jitter actually is".
> >
> > I don't know who you are quoting here, Mr. Krueger,
> > but I have never claimed anything like this. Perhaps
> > you are confusing me with someone else.
>
> Or creating yet another strawman, which is GOIA's second favorite
> "debating trade" trick (behind the well-known "IKYABWAI".)

Arny Krueger has admitted below that he fabricated
the passage in quote marks and attributed to me,
based on his (mis)understanding of why I wrote
and published a technical examination of one aspect
of digital component performance. Perhaps I
should have included some examples of
"trumpets."

> > > After all, who is the AES when we have an authority
> > > like John Atkinson to show us the light?
> >
> > Well, I am a long-term full member of the AES and
> > you, despite your belief in scientism, Mr. Krueger,
> > are not. :-)
>
> I find your usage of smileys as confusing as 2pid does.
> To me it appears that you are laughing at GOIA.

Indeed I am. I find it immensely amusing that a man
who only recently explained that he is not a member
of the AES because the members of that academic
society "lie" to him, nevertheless wraps himself in
the AES flag of scientific respectability when his
own arguments founder.

> Laughing at the mentally-handicapped is not nice. :-(

I have never claimed to be "nice," merely polite. :-)

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> > > Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall, or
> > > only IRT dynamic range?

[snip "debating trade" crapola]

> This is what happens when you attempt to start a discussion about audio
> with Arny.

Yes it is. And it's always the same.

Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his explorations of "facts" and
"science" because he has to go prostrate himself before his imaginary "God"?
TIA on behalf of lying sacks of **** everywhere.

[Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been, beyond your grasp.]

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message
> Jenn said:
>
>>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall, or
>>>> only IRT dynamic range?
>
> [snip "debating trade" crapola]
>
>> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
>> discussion about audio with Arny.
>
> Yes it is. And it's always the same.
>
> Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his explorations
> of "facts" and "science" because he has to go prostrate
> himself before his imaginary "God"? TIA on behalf of
> lying sacks of **** everywhere.
>
> [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> beyond your grasp.]

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> message
> > Jenn said:
> >
> >>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall, or
> >>>> only IRT dynamic range?
> >
> > [snip "debating trade" crapola]
> >
> >> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
> >> discussion about audio with Arny.
> >
> > Yes it is. And it's always the same.
> >
> > Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his explorations
> > of "facts" and "science" because he has to go prostrate
> > himself before his imaginary "God"? TIA on behalf of
> > lying sacks of **** everywhere.
> >
> > [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> > beyond your grasp.]

Who is "Jeen"?

So he is "praising" me because he agreed to the obvious. OK.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> > >> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
> > >> discussion about audio with Arny.
> > >
> > > Yes it is. And it's always the same.
> > >
> > > Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his explorations
> > > of "facts" and "science" because he has to go prostrate
> > > himself before his imaginary "God"? TIA on behalf of
> > > lying sacks of **** everywhere.
> > >
> > > [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> > > beyond your grasp.]
>
> Who is "Jeen"?

Thnak's Jene for, admoititng Jnne that you'er unable to parse a simplle typo
error Jennn.

> So he is "praising" me because he agreed to the obvious. OK.

Arnii was just complaining that you don't pick on him enough. Where does the
"truth" lie? ;-)



--

"What is, a lie? Its a lie if I say its a lie. The truth can be a lie."
-- A. Krooger, Jan. 2009

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 31, 11:09*am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> On Jan 30, 8:27 pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > wrote:
> > On Jan 30, 4:12 pm, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > > On Jan 30, 4:26 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > "According to John Atkinson jitter is the sole determiner
> > > > of digital player quality. Furthermore, jitter and only jitter
> > > > defines sound quality no matter how low the jitter actually is".
>
> > > I don't know who you are quoting here, Mr. Krueger,
> > > but I have never claimed anything like this. Perhaps
> > > you are confusing me with someone else.
>
> > Or creating yet another strawman, which is GOIA's second favorite
> > "debating trade" trick (behind the well-known "IKYABWAI".)
>
> Arny Krueger has admitted below that he fabricated
> the passage in quote marks and attributed to me,
> based on his (mis)understanding of why I wrote
> and published a technical examination of one aspect
> of digital component performance.

That would mean that GOIA admitted to lying, which is impossible.

Therefore, you must be lying. ;-)

> > > > After all, who is the AES when we have an authority
> > > > like John Atkinson to show us the light?
>
> > > Well, I am a long-term full member of the AES and
> > > you, despite your belief in scientism, Mr. Krueger,
> > > are not. :-)
>
> > I find your usage of smileys as confusing as 2pid does.
> > To me it appears that you are laughing at GOIA.
>
> Indeed I am. I find it immensely amusing that a man
> who only recently explained that he is not a member
> of the AES because the members of that academic
> society "lie" to him, nevertheless wraps himself in
> the AES flag of scientific respectability when his
> own arguments founder.

Well, OK, but I find it far more amusing when GOIA questions someone
else's integrity, accuses them of being "hypocrites" and so forth.

To me the AES thing gets lost in the dunnage.

> > Laughing at the mentally-handicapped is not nice. :-(
>
> I have never claimed to be "nice," merely polite. :-)

I agree that you appear to laugh at him far more politely than I do. I
attribute that to your British accent. British accents make even
calling someone an "asshole" sound polite. :-)

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 31, 2:59*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> messagenews:kqc9o45gl82ulv8f4psmh1htn545fc85hl@4ax .com
>
>
>
> > Jenn said:
>
> >>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall, or
> >>>> only IRT dynamic range?
>
> > [snip "debating trade" crapola]
>
> >> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
> >> discussion about audio with Arny.
>
> > Yes it is. And it's always the same.
>
> > Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his explorations
> > of "facts" and "science" because he has to go prostrate
> > himself before his imaginary "God"? TIA on behalf of
> > lying sacks of **** everywhere.
>
> > [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> > beyond your grasp.]

Points to George and Jenn for getting GOIA so worked up that he hit
"send" without posting anything.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Harry Lavo said:

> > she edited my post

> Oh this is rich. From the man who routinely snips entire sections of posts
> when what they contain annoy or refute him....all withou reference of a
> "snip" to indicate that it is missing, much less "why" it was snipped.
> This is one of Arny's routine practices on this forum and on others....and
> he has been called out for it by others beside myself.

Arnii is a self-proclaimed "master of the debating trade". That means he
gets to do whatever he wants, and all of us non-"masters" are merely pawns
in his private game.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> I'm trying to discern how he believes I was trying to pull any kind of
> fast one on him.

I'm sure it's my fault, whatever you supposedly did.

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message

> Arnii is a self-proclaimed "master of the debating
> trade". That means he gets to do whatever he wants, and
> all of us non-"masters" are merely pawns in his private
> game.

Obviously Middiot, you have no idea that RAO is available to the general
public. Nothing private about RAO at all.

Middiot, you cower behind an alias, because you know the redicule you'd
receive if people who know you in real life knew that being the Middiot is
what you do with so much of your life.

If Jenn does as she has promised, and stops posting responses to or about
me, then that will be a significant victory for me.

[Boon]

On Jan 31, 9:21�pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> messagenews:u2cao4do976p372ee96g0h1eu6335sa34k@4ax .com
>
> > Arnii is a self-proclaimed "master of the debating
> > trade". That means he gets to do whatever he wants, and
> > all of us non-"masters" are merely pawns in his private
> > game.
>
> Obviously Middiot, you have no idea that RAO is available to the general
> public. Nothing private about RAO at all.
>
> Middiot, you cower behind an alias, because you know the redicule you'd
> receive if people who know you in real life knew that being the Middiot is
> what you do with so much of your life.
>
> If Jenn does as she has promised, and stops posting responses to or about
> me, then that will be a significant victory for me.

I don't think so. When everyone agreed to ignore you a couple of
years ago, you howled like a stuck pig. I've always said that the
best way to rid RAO of your presence is to have you posting in a
vacuum. But a few of the people here actually enjoy tormenting you
too much so that can't happen.

If everyone wants to try ignoring Arny again, I'm all for it. It's
one thing to torment an asshole, but Arny has clearly gone way past
that point and the tormenting has taken on a new dimension. I think
we've seen plenty of evidence over the last few weeks that Arny is
mentally ill. We may have to start considering the fact that pushing
a mentally ill person too far may have consequences. I think if we
keep this up for a few more weeks or months, something bad may happen.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message

> On Jan 31, 9:21?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
>> messagenews:u2cao4do976p372ee96g0h1eu6335sa34k@4ax .com
>>
>>> Arnii is a self-proclaimed "master of the debating
>>> trade". That means he gets to do whatever he wants, and
>>> all of us non-"masters" are merely pawns in his private
>>> game.
>>
>> Obviously Middiot, you have no idea that RAO is
>> available to the general public. Nothing private about
>> RAO at all.
>>
>> Middiot, you cower behind an alias, because you know the
>> redicule you'd receive if people who know you in real
>> life knew that being the Middiot is what you do with so
>> much of your life.
>>
>> If Jenn does as she has promised, and stops posting
>> responses to or about me, then that will be a
>> significant victory for me.
>
> I don't think so. When everyone agreed to ignore you a
> couple of years ago, you howled like a stuck pig.

No I laughed like it was really funny because you guys couldn't pull it off.

> I've
> always said that the best way to rid RAO of your presence
> is to have you posting in a vacuum.

It wouldn't work because you in the Middiocy are way to compulsive and
obsessed with me.

> But a few of the
> people here actually enjoy tormenting you too much so
> that can't happen.

Yup that's what normal people do according to Marc - torment people.

Marc, you are really a paragon of sanity and morality. Not!

> If everyone wants to try ignoring Arny again, I'm all for it.

I am too. Now that would be victory for me, and in spades.

> It's one thing to torment an asshole,

In your case Marc, that's obviously self-abuse.

> but Arny has
> clearly gone way past that point and the tormenting has
> taken on a new dimension.

Give me that victory Marc!

> I think we've seen plenty of
> evidence over the last few weeks that Arny is mentally
> ill.

What most normal people see is a bunch of idiots, charging at windmills.

> We may have to start considering the fact that
> pushing a mentally ill person too far may have
> consequences.

It is true that by posting so many responses to you Marc, I've whipped you
up into levels of excitement that may be unbearable for you.

> I think if we keep this up for a few more
> weeks or months, something bad may happen.

Yes, more of you will bail, like Jenn has promised to do.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
Boon > wrote:
>
> If everyone wants to try ignoring Arny again, I'm all for it. It's
> one thing to torment an asshole, but Arny has clearly gone way past
> that point and the tormenting has taken on a new dimension. I think
> we've seen plenty of evidence over the last few weeks that Arny is
> mentally ill. We may have to start considering the fact that pushing
> a mentally ill person too far may have consequences.

That's my point of bowing out of discussion with him. Something finally
hit me tonight about his mental state. I believe that he is unstable,
and therefore, A. Trying to make him see reality is probably fruitless,
and B. He could be headed down a very bad road, and I don't want to be
part of what could be happening.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >,
> Boon > wrote:
>>
>> If everyone wants to try ignoring Arny again, I'm all
>> for it. It's one thing to torment an asshole, but Arny
>> has clearly gone way past that point and the tormenting
>> has taken on a new dimension. I think we've seen plenty
>> of evidence over the last few weeks that Arny is
>> mentally ill. We may have to start considering the fact
>> that pushing a mentally ill person too far may have
>> consequences.

> That's my point of bowing out of discussion with him.

Which of course you are not doing, Jenn. You're just pretending that you are
bowing out of discussion of me by discussing me with someone else. They are
just a surrogate for me. You are still mulling me over in your mind again
and again.

What you are doing Jenn is perfectly transparent, and very much what a silly
middle school girl would do.

> Something finally hit me tonight about his mental state.

Something about my ability to predict your behavior, Jenn?

> I believe that he is unstable, and therefore, A. Trying
> to make him see reality is probably fruitless, and B. He
> could be headed down a very bad road, and I don't want to
> be part of what could be happening.

Jenn, any bad road that you could think of, you will always go down it
before me. In fact I'll probably never ever go there.

[Clyde Slick]

On 1 Feb, 00:21, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
..
>
> redicule

we always know when you're having a bad day.
just try to hang in there, 'chruch' is tomorrow morning.

[Clyde Slick]

On 1 Feb, 13:12, ScottW > wrote:
> On Jan 31, 3:13*pm, Jenn > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article >,
> > *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> > > messagenews:kqc9o45gl82ulv8f4psmh1htn545fc85hl@4ax .com
> > > > Jenn said:
>
> > > >>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall, or
> > > >>>> only IRT dynamic range?
>
> > > > [snip "debating trade" crapola]
>
> > > >> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
> > > >> discussion about audio with Arny.
>
> > > > Yes it is. And it's always the same.
>
> > > > Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his explorations
> > > > of "facts" and "science" because he has to go prostrate
> > > > himself before his imaginary "God"? TIA on behalf of
> > > > lying sacks of **** everywhere.
>
> > > > [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> > > > beyond your grasp.]
>
> > Who is "Jeen"?
>
> > So he is "praising" me because he agreed to the obvious. *OK.
>
> He's praising you because you continue to spiral down
> the Arnyitis drain.
>
> Seriously, if you want to have "an audio" converstation with
> Arny, you better grow a thicker skin.

and plug yur nose

> You might also avoid the stupid questions are at least endure
> the snotty answer and push forward.
> If you really care why Arny thinks those are the "very best
> orchestral recordings" you're going to need more stamina
> than you've shown to find out.
>

He is always welcome to state it in simple English.
there is no reason we have to administer his enema
to get an answer.

[Clyde Slick]

On 1 Feb, 14:32, ScottW > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 11:13*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 1 Feb, 13:12, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 31, 3:13*pm, Jenn > wrote:
>
> > > > In article >,
> > > > *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > > > "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> > > > > messagenews:kqc9o45gl82ulv8f4psmh1htn545fc85hl@4ax .com
> > > > > > Jenn said:
>
> > > > > >>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall, or
> > > > > >>>> only IRT dynamic range?
>
> > > > > > [snip "debating trade" crapola]
>
> > > > > >> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
> > > > > >> discussion about audio with Arny.
>
> > > > > > Yes it is. And it's always the same.
>
> > > > > > Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his explorations
> > > > > > of "facts" and "science" because he has to go prostrate
> > > > > > himself before his imaginary "God"? TIA on behalf of
> > > > > > lying sacks of **** everywhere.
>
> > > > > > [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> > > > > > beyond your grasp.]
>
> > > > Who is "Jeen"?
>
> > > > So he is "praising" me because he agreed to the obvious. *OK.
>
> > > He's praising you because you continue to spiral down
> > > the Arnyitis drain.
>
> > > Seriously, if you want to have "an audio" converstation with
> > > Arny, you better grow a thicker skin.
>
> > and plug yur nose
>
> *Whatever works for you. *I've yet to experience any
> odors from my display due to RAO.
> Perhaps you spilled something on your laptop.
>
>
>
> > > You might also avoid the stupid questions are at least endure
> > > the snotty answer and push forward.
> > > If you really care why Arny thinks those are the "very best
> > > orchestral recordings" you're going to need more stamina
> > > than you've shown to find out.
>
> > He is always welcome to state it in simple English.
> > there is no reason we have to administer his enema
> > to get an answer.
>
> *LoL. *No reason? *Not if you don't want an answer on
> topic. *In this regard he is little different than Middiot or
> shhtard where BS parsing is always required.
>
> ScottW-

George and Shh can and do answer simple and direct
questions.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 1, 1:32*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 11:13*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:

> > He is always welcome to state it in simple English.
> > there is no reason we have to administer his enema
> > to get an answer.
>
> *LoL. *No reason? *Not if you don't want an answer on
> topic. *In this regard he is little different than Middiot or
> shhtard where BS parsing is always required.

Um, it's called a "language", 2pid, and just because you don't know
how to use it is no reason to get upset...again. LoL.

What do you want to know about, 2pid? Ask away and if I feel like
answering I will.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

> > > He is always welcome to state it in simple English.
> > > there is no reason we have to administer his enema
> > > to get an answer.
> >
> > *LoL. *No reason? *Not if you don't want an answer on
> > topic. *In this regard he is little different than Middiot or
> > shhtard where BS parsing is always required.
>
> Um, it's called a "language", 2pid, and just because you don't know
> how to use it is no reason to get upset...again. LoL.
>
> What do you want to know about, 2pid? Ask away and if I feel like
> answering I will.

While Scottie is fulminating, here's my question: When did you become
intolerant of loud, obnoxious imbeciles?

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Jan 31, 3:13*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > In article >,
> > *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> > > messagenews:kqc9o45gl82ulv8f4psmh1htn545fc85hl@4ax .com
> > > > Jenn said:
> >
> > > >>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall, or
> > > >>>> only IRT dynamic range?
> >
> > > > [snip "debating trade" crapola]
> >
> > > >> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
> > > >> discussion about audio with Arny.
> >
> > > > Yes it is. And it's always the same.
> >
> > > > Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his explorations
> > > > of "facts" and "science" because he has to go prostrate
> > > > himself before his imaginary "God"? TIA on behalf of
> > > > lying sacks of **** everywhere.
> >
> > > > [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> > > > beyond your grasp.]
> >
> > Who is "Jeen"?
> >
> > So he is "praising" me because he agreed to the obvious. *OK.
>
> He's praising you because you continue to spiral down
> the Arnyitis drain.

I'm finished responding to him.

>
> Seriously, if you want to have "an audio" converstation with
> Arny, you better grow a thicker skin.
> You might also avoid the stupid questions are at least endure
> the snotty answer and push forward.

> If you really care why Arny thinks those are the "very best
> orchestral recordings" you're going to need more stamina
> than you've shown to find out.
>
> Middiot doesn't care about the recordings at all.
> He just wants to splash around
> in the turdbowl. The more the merrier for him.
> Why do you think he keeps trolling you as Mistress Jenn?

The difference between you and me: I don't care.

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message


> He's praising you because you continue to spiral down
> the Arnyitis drain.

That would be the Middiocy drain. The more Jenn works at it, the more she is
becoming like the Middiot.

> Seriously, if you want to have "an audio" converstation
> with Arny, you better grow a thicker skin.

Nahh, Jenn's skin is plenty thick. Her skin has thickened to the point where
her brain is 100% callous.


> You might also avoid the stupid questions are at least
> endure the snotty answer and push forward.

Jenn has no interest in audio - she loves to be treated like one of the
boys.

> If you really care why Arny thinks those are the "very
> best orchestral recordings" you're going to need more
> stamina than you've shown to find out.

That's a straw man that Jenn created out of whole cloth and reckless
editing.

> Middiot doesn't care about the recordings at all.

Agreed. Middiot is all about keeping control over his band of dimwits.

> He just wants to splash around in the turdbowl.

Middiot is the turdbowl.

> The more the merrier for him.

He thrives on the illusion of control that he has over nothing that is
useful.

> Why do you think he keeps trolling you as Mistress Jenn?

That's how he keeps Jenn on the job, trying to harrass me.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >,
> ScottW > wrote:
>
>> On Jan 31, 3:13 pm, Jenn > wrote:
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
>>>> messagenews:kqc9o45gl82ulv8f4psmh1htn545fc85hl@4ax .com
>>>>> Jenn said:
>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall,
>>>>>>>> or only IRT dynamic range?
>>>
>>>>> [snip "debating trade" crapola]
>>>
>>>>>> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
>>>>>> discussion about audio with Arny.
>>>
>>>>> Yes it is. And it's always the same.
>>>
>>>>> Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his
>>>>> explorations of "facts" and "science" because he has
>>>>> to go prostrate himself before his imaginary "God"?
>>>>> TIA on behalf of lying sacks of **** everywhere.
>>>
>>>>> [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
>>>>> beyond your grasp.]
>>>
>>> Who is "Jeen"?
>>>
>>> So he is "praising" me because he agreed to the
>>> obvious. OK.
>>
>> He's praising you because you continue to spiral down
>> the Arnyitis drain.
>
> I'm finished responding to him.


Actions speak more loudly than words.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 1, 3:54*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > ScottW > wrote:
>
> >> On Jan 31, 3:13 pm, Jenn > wrote:
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> >>>> messagenews:kqc9o45gl82ulv8f4psmh1htn545fc85hl@4ax .com
> >>>>> Jenn said:
>
> >>>>>>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall,
> >>>>>>>> or only IRT dynamic range?
>
> >>>>> [snip "debating trade" crapola]
>
> >>>>>> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
> >>>>>> discussion about audio with Arny.
>
> >>>>> Yes it is. And it's always the same.
>
> >>>>> Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his
> >>>>> explorations of "facts" and "science" because he has
> >>>>> to go prostrate himself before his imaginary "God"?
> >>>>> TIA on behalf of lying sacks of **** everywhere.
>
> >>>>> [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> >>>>> beyond your grasp.]
>
> >>> Who is "Jeen"?
>
> >>> So he is "praising" me because he agreed to the
> >>> obvious. OK.
>
> >> He's praising you because you continue to spiral down
> >> the Arnyitis drain.
>
> > I'm finished responding to him.
>
> Actions speak more loudly than words.

GOIA won't be happy until he drives off another poster. GOIA has
ruined RAO and he's quite proud of it.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:

> On Feb 1, 3:54*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article
> > > >,
> > > ScottW > wrote:
> >
> > >> On Jan 31, 3:13 pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > >>> In article
> > >>> >, "Arny
> > >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> > >>>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> > >>>> messagenews:kqc9o45gl82ulv8f4psmh1htn545fc85hl@4ax .com
> > >>>>> Jenn said:
> >
> > >>>>>>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall,
> > >>>>>>>> or only IRT dynamic range?
> >
> > >>>>> [snip "debating trade" crapola]
> >
> > >>>>>> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
> > >>>>>> discussion about audio with Arny.
> >
> > >>>>> Yes it is. And it's always the same.
> >
> > >>>>> Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his
> > >>>>> explorations of "facts" and "science" because he has
> > >>>>> to go prostrate himself before his imaginary "God"?
> > >>>>> TIA on behalf of lying sacks of **** everywhere.
> >
> > >>>>> [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> > >>>>> beyond your grasp.]
> >
> > >>> Who is "Jeen"?
> >
> > >>> So he is "praising" me because he agreed to the
> > >>> obvious. OK.
> >
> > >> He's praising you because you continue to spiral down
> > >> the Arnyitis drain.
> >
> > > I'm finished responding to him.
> >
> > Actions speak more loudly than words.
>
> GOIA won't be happy until he drives off another poster. GOIA has
> ruined RAO and he's quite proud of it.

I'll hang out and see what happens. There are good posters here, and
they make real conversation possible. But I won't respond to AK, no
matter how hard he trolls.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Feb 1, 1:51*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > On Jan 31, 3:13*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > > > In article >,
> > > > *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> > > > > "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> > > > > messagenews:kqc9o45gl82ulv8f4psmh1htn545fc85hl@4ax .com
> > > > > > Jenn said:
> >
> > > > > >>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall, or
> > > > > >>>> only IRT dynamic range?
> >
> > > > > > [snip "debating trade" crapola]
> >
> > > > > >> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
> > > > > >> discussion about audio with Arny.
> >
> > > > > > Yes it is. And it's always the same.
> >
> > > > > > Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his explorations
> > > > > > of "facts" and "science" because he has to go prostrate
> > > > > > himself before his imaginary "God"? TIA on behalf of
> > > > > > lying sacks of **** everywhere.
> >
> > > > > > [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> > > > > > beyond your grasp.]
> >
> > > > Who is "Jeen"?
> >
> > > > So he is "praising" me because he agreed to the obvious. *OK.
> >
> > > He's praising you because you continue to spiral down
> > > the Arnyitis drain.
> >
> > I'm finished responding to him.
>
> I'm not sure who will suffer more.
> George or Arny.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > Seriously, if you want to have "an audio" converstation with
> > > Arny, you better grow a thicker skin.
> > > You might also avoid the stupid questions are at least endure
> > > the snotty answer and push forward.
> > > If you really care why Arny thinks those are the "very best
> > > orchestral recordings" you're going to need more stamina
> > > than you've shown to find out.
> >
> > > Middiot doesn't care about the recordings at all.
> > > *He just wants to splash around
> > > in the turdbowl. The more the merrier for him.
> > > Why do you think he keeps trolling you as Mistress Jenn?
> >
> > The difference between you and me: *I don't care.
>
> Yet you cared about Arny till now.

I cared about hoping Arny would look honestly in the mirror. I now see
that the issue is larger than that for him, and I don't want to be party
to what may happen in the future.

> Hmmm. Leads one to believe the George was lower
> on the food chain until recently.
> I wonder if he knew?

I don't know what you mean, but, whatever.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Feb 1, 2:06*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> > *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 1, 3:54*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > In article
> > > > > >,
> > > > > ScottW > wrote:
> >
> > > > >> On Jan 31, 3:13 pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > > > >>> In article
> > > > >>> >, "Arny
> > > > >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> > > > >>>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> > > > >>>> messagenews:kqc9o45gl82ulv8f4psmh1htn545fc85hl@4ax .com
> > > > >>>>> Jenn said:
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall,
> > > > >>>>>>>> or only IRT dynamic range?
> >
> > > > >>>>> [snip "debating trade" crapola]
> >
> > > > >>>>>> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
> > > > >>>>>> discussion about audio with Arny.
> >
> > > > >>>>> Yes it is. And it's always the same.
> >
> > > > >>>>> Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his
> > > > >>>>> explorations of "facts" and "science" because he has
> > > > >>>>> to go prostrate himself before his imaginary "God"?
> > > > >>>>> TIA on behalf of lying sacks of **** everywhere.
> >
> > > > >>>>> [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> > > > >>>>> beyond your grasp.]
> >
> > > > >>> Who is "Jeen"?
> >
> > > > >>> So he is "praising" me because he agreed to the
> > > > >>> obvious. OK.
> >
> > > > >> He's praising you because you continue to spiral down
> > > > >> the Arnyitis drain.
> >
> > > > > I'm finished responding to him.
> >
> > > > Actions speak more loudly than words.
> >
> > > GOIA won't be happy until he drives off another poster. GOIA has
> > > ruined RAO and he's quite proud of it.
> >
> > I'll hang out and see what happens. *There are good posters here, and
> > they make real conversation possible.
>
> That would be people who tolerate diversity of opinion,
> don't you think?
>
> ScottW

Absolutely.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> But I won't respond to [the Krooborg], no matter how hard he trolls.

You realize, of course, that by disdaining Turdy, you're intensifying his
pain/pleasure response. I hope you're getting something out of your new
policy as well.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 1, 4:42*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2:06*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:

> > > GOIA won't be happy until he drives off another poster. GOIA has
> > > ruined RAO and he's quite proud of it.
>
> > I'll hang out and see what happens. *There are good posters here, and
> > they make real conversation possible.
>
> *That would be people who tolerate diversity of opinion,
> don't you think?

It probably also includes people who can communicate. You're out. LoL.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

> > > I'll hang out and see what happens. *There are good posters here, and
> > > they make real conversation possible.
> >
> > *That would be people who tolerate diversity of opinion,
> > don't you think?
>
> It probably also includes people who can communicate. You're out. LoL.

Has anybody tried yelling "SHUT THE $(*% UP!!" at Scottie? It might work.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Feb 1, 2:43*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > On Feb 1, 1:51*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> >
> > > > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > > > On Jan 31, 3:13*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > > > > > In article >,
> > > > > > *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> > > > > > > messagenews:kqc9o45gl82ulv8f4psmh1htn545fc85hl@4ax .com
> > > > > > > > Jenn said:
> >
> > > > > > > >>>> Do you mean the best orchestral recording overall, or
> > > > > > > >>>> only IRT dynamic range?
> >
> > > > > > > > [snip "debating trade" crapola]
> >
> > > > > > > >> This is what happens when you attempt to start a
> > > > > > > >> discussion about audio with Arny.
> >
> > > > > > > > Yes it is. And it's always the same.
> >
> > > > > > > > Will you excuse Turdborg from continuing his explorations
> > > > > > > > of "facts" and "science" because he has to go prostrate
> > > > > > > > himself before his imaginary "God"? TIA on behalf of
> > > > > > > > lying sacks of **** everywhere.
> >
> > > > > > > > [Note to the Krooborg: Irony is, and always has been,
> > > > > > > > beyond your grasp.]
> >
> > > > > > Who is "Jeen"?
> >
> > > > > > So he is "praising" me because he agreed to the obvious. *OK.
> >
> > > > > He's praising you because you continue to spiral down
> > > > > the Arnyitis drain.
> >
> > > > I'm finished responding to him.
> >
> > > I'm not sure who will suffer more.
> > > George or Arny.
> >
> > > > > Seriously, if you want to have "an audio" converstation with
> > > > > Arny, you better grow a thicker skin.
> > > > > You might also avoid the stupid questions are at least endure
> > > > > the snotty answer and push forward.
> > > > > If you really care why Arny thinks those are the "very best
> > > > > orchestral recordings" you're going to need more stamina
> > > > > than you've shown to find out.
> >
> > > > > Middiot doesn't care about the recordings at all.
> > > > > *He just wants to splash around
> > > > > in the turdbowl. The more the merrier for him.
> > > > > Why do you think he keeps trolling you as Mistress Jenn?
> >
> > > > The difference between you and me: *I don't care.
> >
> > > *Yet you cared about Arny till now.
> >
> > I cared about hoping Arny would look honestly in the mirror. *I now see
> > that the issue is larger than that for him, and I don't want to be party
> > to what may happen in the future.
>
> You're confused. The issue is smaller than that.
> It's the issue that RAO and the few remnant regulars
> are insignificant to him.

I disagree. I think that the RAO folks are too important to him.

> >
> > > Hmmm. *Leads one to believe the George was lower
> > > on the food chain until recently.
> > > I wonder if he knew?
> >
> > I don't know what you mean, but, whatever.
>
> Sure you don't.

Correct. I don't.

> LoL. I don't why you fear the
> Middiot so much. He's as harmless as Arny
> and equally, if not more, repugnant.

I don't fear George at all. WTH are you talking about?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 1, 4:36*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 1:35*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On Feb 1, 1:32*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 1, 11:13*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> > > > He is always welcome to state it in simple English.
> > > > there is no reason we have to administer his enema
> > > > to get an answer.
>
> > > *LoL. *No reason? *Not if you don't want an answer on
> > > topic. *In this regard he is little different than Middiot or
> > > shhtard where BS parsing is always required.
>
> > Um, it's called a "language", 2pid, and just because you don't know
> > how to use it is no reason to get upset...again. LoL.
>
> > What do you want to know about, 2pid? Ask away and if I feel like
> > answering I will.
>
> *BS noted, again.

This is like Jeopardy, 2pid. You should ask questions in the form of a
question. LoL.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 1, 5:00*pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
> Shhhh! said:
>
> > > > I'll hang out and see what happens. *There are good posters here, and
> > > > they make real conversation possible.
>
> > > *That would be people who tolerate diversity of opinion,
> > > don't you think?
>
> > It probably also includes people who can communicate. You're out. LoL.
>
> Has anybody tried yelling "SHUT THE $(*% UP!!" at Scottie? It might work.

What poor, dim 2pid cannot comprehend is that when his stupid
'differing POVs' are destroyed point by point it is not a sign of
"intolerance". It is simply destroying a stupid 'differing POV' point
by point.

It sure does seem to upset him though.

[Herbert Hoover[_2_]]

On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:18:14 -0800, Jenn > wrote:

>In article >,
> "Harry Lavo" > wrote:
>
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>> >
>> >> In article
>> >> >, "Arny
>> >> Krueger" > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>> >>>
>> >>>> In article
>> >>>> >, "Arny
>> >>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> In article
>> >>>>>> >, "Arny
>> >>>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>>>> The very best orchestral recording I've been able to find has about
>> >>>>>>> 82 dB
>> >>>>>>> dynamic range. Playing it on a player with 92 dB dynamic range only
>> >>>>>>> hurts
>> >>> >>> the effective dynamic range by a fraction of a dB. And its all
>> >>> >>> moot,
>> >>>>>>> because if you play the recording at sensible volume levels the
>> >>>>>>> ambient
>> >>>>>>> noise in just about any residential listening room will mask it all.
>> >
>> > This is what Jenn, in a fit of Middiocy grotesquely redacted the above
>> > paragraph into:
>> >
>> >>>>>>> The very best orchestral recording I've been able to find
>> >
>> > (note that in her rush to deceit driven by anger, Jenn does not show that
>> > she edited my post in any way. Academic honesty requires that she add
>> > least an ellipses to show where she cut the text.) Any good teacher who
>> > read the entire paragraph she mangled would ream her strongly for her
>> > horrifically bad editing.)
>> >
>>
>> Oh this is rich. From the man who routinely snips entire sections of posts
>> when what they contain annoy or refute him....all withou reference of a
>> "snip" to indicate that it is missing, much less "why" it was snipped.
>> This is one of Arny's routine practices on this forum and on others....and
>> he has been called out for it by others beside myself.
>
>I'm trying to discern how he believes I was trying to pull any kind of
>fast one on him.

He doesn''t believe that for a second. When cornered, he simply makes
things up. Soon we're all arguing about his lies rather than going
back to the point that he had been wrong all the time.

Herbert

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> You certainly avoid objecting to him while he constantly
> trolls away casting you as Arny's dominatrix among
> other things.
> Seems rather odd to tolerate that while
> stamping your feet over Arny's nonsense.

"That's a joke... I say, that's a joke, son."

Stephen

[Herbert Hoover[_2_]]

On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:00:27 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>
>
>Shhhh! said:
>
>> > > I'll hang out and see what happens. *There are good posters here, and
>> > > they make real conversation possible.
>> >
>> > *That would be people who tolerate diversity of opinion,
>> > don't you think?
>>
>> It probably also includes people who can communicate. You're out. LoL.
>
>Has anybody tried yelling "SHUT THE $(*% UP!!" at Scottie? It might work.
>
>
SHUT THE $(*% UP!, Scottie!!!


Dit it work?


Herbert

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 1, 5:13 pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 3:06 pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > ScottW > wrote:

> > > You're confused. The issue is smaller than that.
> > > It's the issue that RAO and the few remnant regulars
> > > are insignificant to him.

(Delusions of mind-reading and 'omnisciescieience' noted) LoL.

> > I disagree. I think that the RAO folks are too important to him.
>
> LoL. Now I fear for your delusion.

LoL. Why else would GOIA stomp around so much? To show all of his
'fiends' on these other sites he bleats about how 'brave' he is?

> > > > > Hmmm. Leads one to believe the George was lower
> > > > > on the food chain until recently.
> > > > > I wonder if he knew?
>
> > > > I don't know what you mean, but, whatever.
>
> > > Sure you don't.
>
> > Correct. I don't.
>
> Sure you do.

Read her lips, 2pid: "I don't". LoL.

What an imbecile.

> Order the food chain. Where do people you
> ignore lay compared to those who you respond to?
> George has been on the ignore list far longer than Arny.

Proving... exactly what, 2pid? Do you 'think' that you're "higher on
the food chain" because I choose to respond to you?

Hint: you're not. LoL.

> > > LoL. I don't why you fear the
> > > Middiot so much. He's as harmless as Arny
> > > and equally, if not more, repugnant.
>
> > I don't fear George at all. WTH are you talking about?
>
> You certainly avoid objecting to him while he constantly
> trolls away casting you as Arny's dominatrix among
> other things.

Ah, this stupid 'argument' comes back to the forefront of 2pid's
'mind'...again.

> Seems rather odd to tolerate that while
> stamping your feet over Arny's nonsense.

So if I point out the stupidity of the vast majority of your OT
positions, 2pid, I am being "intolerant" and a very bad person. I
should just let you bark away with no comment on your stupidity or
uninformed, self-centered positions. This would signal my "tolerance".

Jenn, OTOH, should respond to every single post that George makes,
even though Jenn has made it quite clear in the past she does not
agree with George's posting style. Her silence is 'tolerance' even
considering that she has specifically said she doesn't agree several
times.

Translation: "Yap! Yap! Grrrrrrr! Growlf! Bark, bark, bark!"

LoL.

[Clyde Slick]

On 1 Feb, 19:20, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> *ScottW > wrote:
> > You certainly avoid objecting to him while he constantly
> > trolls away casting you as Arny's dominatrix among
> > other things.
> > Seems rather odd to tolerate that while
> > stamping your feet over Arny's nonsense.
>
> "That's a joke... I say, that's a joke, son."
>
> Stephen

is thqt a real foghorn or a synth foghorn?

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
Clyde Slick > wrote:

> On 1 Feb, 19:20, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > You certainly avoid objecting to him while he constantly
> > > trolls away casting you as Arny's dominatrix among
> > > other things.
> > > Seems rather odd to tolerate that while
> > > stamping your feet over Arny's nonsense.
> >
> > "That's a joke... I say, that's a joke, son."
> >
> > Stephen
>
> is thqt a real foghorn or a synth foghorn?

lol

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:


> Jenn, OTOH, should respond to every single post that George makes,
> even though Jenn has made it quite clear in the past she does not
> agree with George's posting style. Her silence is 'tolerance' even
> considering that she has specifically said she doesn't agree several
> times.

Pretty much sums it up, I guess. What I don't understand is why he
stands by and lets Arny pour snot and lies. Shouldn't he be in there
criticizing him at every turn?

[Harry Lavo]

"Jenn" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>> On 1 Feb, 19:20, MiNe 109 > wrote:
>> > In article
>> > >,
>> >
>> > ScottW > wrote:
>> > > You certainly avoid objecting to him while he constantly
>> > > trolls away casting you as Arny's dominatrix among
>> > > other things.
>> > > Seems rather odd to tolerate that while
>> > > stamping your feet over Arny's nonsense.
>> >
>> > "That's a joke... I say, that's a joke, son."
>> >
>> > Stephen
>>
>> is thqt a real foghorn or a synth foghorn?
>
> lol

If you ABX them, you'll find they both sound the same. And they've been
labeled as such by some prestigous institution.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Harry Lavo" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article
> > >,
> > Clyde Slick > wrote:
> >
> >> On 1 Feb, 19:20, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> >> > In article
> >> > >,
> >> >
> >> > ScottW > wrote:
> >> > > You certainly avoid objecting to him while he constantly
> >> > > trolls away casting you as Arny's dominatrix among
> >> > > other things.
> >> > > Seems rather odd to tolerate that while
> >> > > stamping your feet over Arny's nonsense.
> >> >
> >> > "That's a joke... I say, that's a joke, son."
> >> >
> >> > Stephen
> >>
> >> is thqt a real foghorn or a synth foghorn?
> >
> > lol
>
> If you ABX them, you'll find they both sound the same. And they've been
> labeled as such by some prestigous institution.

Prestigious, though unnamed.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> > Jenn, OTOH, should respond to every single post that George makes,
> > even though Jenn has made it quite clear in the past she does not
> > agree with George's posting style. Her silence is 'tolerance' even
> > considering that she has specifically said she doesn't agree several
> > times.
>
> Pretty much sums it up, I guess. What I don't understand is why he
> stands by and lets Arny pour snot and lies. Shouldn't he be in there
> criticizing him at every turn?

I believe you've missed the point, Mistress. Scottie wants you to come after
me because he is unable to defend himself against my mean and terrible
attacks. In the murky dimness of Scottie's 'mind', he has twisted his fear
of you into a fantasy that you're a fearsome dominatrix who can easily
intimidate anybody you choose to.

There is a gulf between Scottie's fantasies and reality. Nobody disputes
that.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message


> There are good
> posters here, and they make real conversation possible.


Now that is insane on 2 counts. First off, there are no people making really
good posts here because to do so is like casting pearls before swine.
Secondly, there is no real conversation here, because of the loud grunting
of the previously-mentioned swine.

What Jenn likes about RAO is an environment that lets her be deceitful and
abusive without standing out from the crowd, because it helps her feel like
one of the boys which she doesn't get because of her gender issues, and
because of the adulation she gets from the Middiot and his posse.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message


>>> I'll hang out and see what happens. There are good
>>> posters here, and they make real conversation possible.
>>
>> That would be people who tolerate diversity of opinion,
>> don't you think?

> Absolutely.

Now that's insanity, or perhaps just the results of living in social poverty
too long.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message


> I cared about hoping Arny would look honestly in the
> mirror.

That's a typical sign of social immaturity, hoping that someone will change
rather than looking at one's self for the same thing.

> I now see that the issue is larger than that for
> him, and I don't want to be party to what may happen in
> the future.

Well what's going to happen in the future at the worst for the RAO trolls is
that I will get busier and have less time to given them the tongue lashings
that they lust for. Jenn likes to play butch, but none of the Middiot Posse
are man enough to give her what she wants. Heck, they are mostly a bunch of
old gays.

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message


> You certainly avoid objecting to him while he constantly
> trolls away casting you as Arny's dominatrix among
> other things.
> Seems rather odd to tolerate that while
> stamping your feet over Arny's nonsense.

It's not odd at all. The Middiot controls Jenn with his adulation. One solid
piece of evidence of this is her denials that it even happens.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 2, 6:31*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> I'll hang out and see what happens. There are good
> >>> posters here, and they make real conversation possible.
>
> >> *That would be people who tolerate diversity of opinion,
> >> don't you think?
> > Absolutely.
>
> Now that's insanity

Your irony module is apparently defective.

[ScottW]

On Feb 1, 9:30*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
>
> > Jenn, OTOH, should respond to every single post that George makes,
> > even though Jenn has made it quite clear in the past she does not
> > agree with George's posting style. Her silence is 'tolerance' even
> > considering that she has specifically said she doesn't agree several
> > times.
>
> Pretty much sums it up, I guess. *What I don't understand is why he
> stands by and lets Arny pour snot and lies. *Shouldn't he be in there
> criticizing him at every turn?

His RAO persona is nuts. I don't pile on the unfortunate.
I also don't presume that usenet and especially RAO is any reflection
of the real world.

Anyway, should I take your silence on Middiot that you feel his
usenet persona is nuts as well?

ScottW

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message


> On Feb 1, 9:30 pm, Jenn > wrote:
>> In article
>> >,

>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>> > wrote:

>>> Jenn, OTOH, should respond to every single post that
>>> George makes, even though Jenn has made it quite clear
>>> in the past she does not agree with George's posting
>>> style. Her silence is 'tolerance' even considering that
>>> she has specifically said she doesn't agree several
>>> times.

> Anyway, should I take your silence on Middiot that you
> feel his usenet persona is nuts as well?

No, you should take Jenn's silence as benig tribute paid to obtain safe
passage from the Middiot.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

> > > * * * * Personally, I prefer both paths. Leave for a good while, then
> > > come back a la George and blow the buggy ******* out of the water.
> >
> > Instead you're actually just blowing the *******. He likes it.
>
> All apologies, Herbert, Scott gets 'everybody's gay' when disagreed with.

I can't believe you read Yapper's rant. I could almost hear his doggie head
exploding.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Witless made a puddle on the floor again.

> Anyway, should I take your silence on [George the Great] that you feel his
> usenet persona is nuts as well?

If doing so would get you to stop yapping, I'd advise Jenn to agree.

Let's talk about something else. Why are you incapable of looking at
yourself objectively and trying not to be so damned stupid about everything?

[MiNe 109]

In article >,
George M. Middius > wrote:

> MiNe 109 said:
>
> > > > * * * * Personally, I prefer both paths. Leave for a good while, then
> > > > come back a la George and blow the buggy ******* out of the water.
> > >
> > > Instead you're actually just blowing the *******. He likes it.
> >
> > All apologies, Herbert, Scott gets 'everybody's gay' when disagreed with.
>
> I can't believe you read Yapper's rant. I could almost hear his doggie head
> exploding.

I admit I skipped to the end.

Stephen

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 2, 1:13*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 9:30*pm, Jenn > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
>
> > > Jenn, OTOH, should respond to every single post that George makes,
> > > even though Jenn has made it quite clear in the past she does not
> > > agree with George's posting style. Her silence is 'tolerance' even
> > > considering that she has specifically said she doesn't agree several
> > > times.
>
> > Pretty much sums it up, I guess. *What I don't understand is why he
> > stands by and lets Arny pour snot and lies. *Shouldn't he be in there
> > criticizing him at every turn?
>
> *His RAO persona is nuts. I don't pile on the unfortunate.
> I also don't presume that usenet and especially RAO is any reflection
> of the real world.
>
> Anyway, should I take your silence on Middiot that you feel his
> usenet persona is nuts as well?

Why, you can take it any way you want to, 2pid! That's why "God" gave
you a 'brain'!

But here we see your hypocrisy in the great wide open. It's probably
best for you to pile on GOIA so none of us think that your silence
equal support. LoL.

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:29:45 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>
>
>Herbert Hoover said:
>
>> >All apologies, Herbert, Scott gets 'everybody's gay' when disagreed with.
>
>> Noted. Apart from the fact that it's not clear why, in this day and
>> age, that's an insult,
>
>An "insult"? Why?

I'm assuming he meant what he said to me as an insult, George. Maybe I
misread it?
>
>> it certainly says something about Scott.....
>
>The less said about Witless, the better.
>
>

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 2, 5:41*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:09:03 -0600, MiNe 109
> > wrote:
> > ScottW > wrote:
>
> >> > * * * * Personally, I prefer both paths. Leave for a good while, then
> >> > come back a la George and blow the buggy ******* out of the water.
>
> >> *Instead you're actually just blowing the *******. *He likes it.
>
> >All apologies, Herbert, Scott gets 'everybody's gay' when disagreed with..

> Noted. Apart from the fact that it's not clear why, in this day and
> age, that's an insult, it certainly says something about Scott.....

There is nothing worse than being gay. Let's look at this logically:

God did not create Adam and Steve in the Garden of Eden. That much is
documented fact, so we do not need to flesh that out any further or we
will be beating a dead horse.

Since God set up the natural order to be a man and a woman from Day
One, any acceptance of homosexuality leads us one step closer to the
Fire and Brimstone of Hell. Once again, no need to beat a dead horse.
That was proven long ago.

Gay people are clearly ridden with Demons. If gay people were even
slightly self-aware, they would go to a church and have these Demons
exorcized. We can conclude because they don't, they enjoy being
consumed with Evil and therefore are the Devil's Children. If this
wasn't the case, God would've had the dinosaurs eat Adam and Eve.

If we allow gays to marry, not only are we opening the door for
unnatural, unGod-like unions, but who's to say that someone won't want
to marry a chair or a child or another species?

And further, the thought of having sex with another man is just plain
yucky to me. I am not interested. Nobody else should be either.

Thus, as I have just conclusively proven, 2pid's homophobia is
entirely justified.

[ScottW]

On Feb 2, 5:21*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:29:45 -0500, George M. Middius
>
> > wrote:
>
> >Herbert Hoover said:
>
> >> >All apologies, Herbert, Scott gets 'everybody's gay' when disagreed with.
>
> >> Noted. Apart from the fact that it's not clear why, in this day and
> >> age, that's an insult,
>
> >An "insult"? Why?
>
> I'm assuming he meant what he said to me as an insult, George.

It was but for your ignorant willingness to give Arny what
he craves than for any silly sexual preference slander.
That your mind goes to that gutter is your problem.

> Maybe I
> misread it?

Indeed.

ScottW

[ScottW]

On Feb 2, 12:35*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article >,
> *George M. Middius > wrote:
>
> > MiNe 109 said:
>
> > > > > * * * * Personally, I prefer both paths. Leave for a good while, then
> > > > > come back a la George and blow the buggy ******* out of the water..
>
> > > > *Instead you're actually just blowing the *******. *He likes it..
>
> > > All apologies, Herbert, Scott gets 'everybody's gay' when disagreed with.
>
> > I can't believe you read Yapper's rant. I could almost hear his doggie head
> > exploding.
>
> I admit I skipped to the end.

A sure sign of AADD. You should be examined.
I might be giving you one A too much credit.

ScottW

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:57:25 -0800 (PST), "Shhhh! I'm Listening to
Reason!" > wrote:

>On Feb 2, 5:41*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:09:03 -0600, MiNe 109
>> > wrote:
>> > ScottW > wrote:
>>
>> >> > * * * * Personally, I prefer both paths. Leave for a good while, then
>> >> > come back a la George and blow the buggy ******* out of the water.
>>
>> >> *Instead you're actually just blowing the *******. *He likes it.
>>
>> >All apologies, Herbert, Scott gets 'everybody's gay' when disagreed with.
>
>> Noted. Apart from the fact that it's not clear why, in this day and
>> age, that's an insult, it certainly says something about Scott.....
>
>There is nothing worse than being gay. Let's look at this logically:
>
>God did not create Adam and Steve in the Garden of Eden. That much is
>documented fact, so we do not need to flesh that out any further or we
>will be beating a dead horse.
>
>Since God set up the natural order to be a man and a woman from Day
>One, any acceptance of homosexuality leads us one step closer to the
>Fire and Brimstone of Hell. Once again, no need to beat a dead horse.
>That was proven long ago.
>
>Gay people are clearly ridden with Demons. If gay people were even
>slightly self-aware, they would go to a church and have these Demons
>exorcized. We can conclude because they don't, they enjoy being
>consumed with Evil and therefore are the Devil's Children. If this
>wasn't the case, God would've had the dinosaurs eat Adam and Eve.
>
>If we allow gays to marry, not only are we opening the door for
>unnatural, unGod-like unions, but who's to say that someone won't want
>to marry a chair or a child or another species?
>
>And further, the thought of having sex with another man is just plain
>yucky to me. I am not interested. Nobody else should be either.
>
>Thus, as I have just conclusively proven, 2pid's homophobia is
>entirely justified.

Wonderful analysis, but could it be he's just jealous?

According to him Arnie's being magnificently blown not just
by me but by everyone in the largest sex act in history since it's not
just me participating in "ignorant willingness to give Arny what he
craves" but also George, you, Jenn, Stephen and a horde of other,
clearly sexually deprived (and depraved) RAO members. It's the Suck of
The Century.


Herbert

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Feb 1, 9:30*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> > *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
> >
> > > Jenn, OTOH, should respond to every single post that George makes,
> > > even though Jenn has made it quite clear in the past she does not
> > > agree with George's posting style. Her silence is 'tolerance' even
> > > considering that she has specifically said she doesn't agree several
> > > times.
> >
> > Pretty much sums it up, I guess. *What I don't understand is why he
> > stands by and lets Arny pour snot and lies. *Shouldn't he be in there
> > criticizing him at every turn?
>
> His RAO persona is nuts. I don't pile on the unfortunate.
> I also don't presume that usenet and especially RAO is any reflection
> of the real world.
>
> Anyway, should I take your silence on Middiot that you feel his
> usenet persona is nuts as well?
>
> ScottW

You don't feel that George's usenet persona is nuts?

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Feb 2, 12:35*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article >,
> > *George M. Middius > wrote:
> >
> > > MiNe 109 said:
> >
> > > > > > * * * * Personally, I prefer both paths. Leave for a good while,
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > come back a la George and blow the buggy ******* out of the water.
> >
> > > > > *Instead you're actually just blowing the *******. *He likes it.
> >
> > > > All apologies, Herbert, Scott gets 'everybody's gay' when disagreed
> > > > with.
> >
> > > I can't believe you read Yapper's rant. I could almost hear his doggie
> > > head
> > > exploding.
> >
> > I admit I skipped to the end.
>
> A sure sign of AADD. You should be examined.
> I might be giving you one A too much credit.

If you mean Attention Deficit Disorder, yes, you are.

Perhaps there were some nuances I missed by scanning it, but your reply
seems in order with what I read.

Stephen

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 2, 9:27*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
> *ScottW > wrote:
> > On Feb 1, 9:30*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > >,
> > > *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
>
> > > > Jenn, OTOH, should respond to every single post that George makes,
> > > > even though Jenn has made it quite clear in the past she does not
> > > > agree with George's posting style. Her silence is 'tolerance' even
> > > > considering that she has specifically said she doesn't agree several
> > > > times.
>
> > > Pretty much sums it up, I guess. *What I don't understand is why he
> > > stands by and lets Arny pour snot and lies. *Shouldn't he be in there
> > > criticizing him at every turn?
>
> > *His RAO persona is nuts. I don't pile on the unfortunate.
> > I also don't presume that usenet and especially RAO is any reflection
> > of the real world.
>
> > Anyway, should I take your silence on Middiot that you feel his
> > usenet persona is nuts as well?
>
> > ScottW
>
> You don't feel that George's usenet persona is nuts?

Here's the deal, Jenn:

If 2pid wants to join in it's a sane reflection that RAO is not
"reality". We can assume, therefore, that his stupidity, his obtuse
replies, his selfishness and his whacked-out political 'differing
POVs' and OT posts are just an act.

If anybody else joins in, it's a "sickness" or an "addiction" or some
reflection of some mental deficiency. Give 2pid credit for allowing
that he has seen GOIA's insanity for what it is through the veil and
fog of 2pid's stupid act though.

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:27:21 -0800, Jenn > wrote:

(snipped for brevity).......
>>
>> His RAO persona is nuts. I don't pile on the unfortunate.
>> I also don't presume that usenet and especially RAO is any reflection
>> of the real world.
>>
>> Anyway, should I take your silence on Middiot that you feel his
>> usenet persona is nuts as well?
>>
>> ScottW
>
>You don't feel that George's usenet persona is nuts?

This is all in the eye of the beholder, Jen. Generally, though, for
any sequence to remain grounded, both parties have to implicitly agree
to certain rules and conventions.

When one side doesn't abide, what's left?

Well......surrealism, for one. George, IMHO, is one of the best
Dadaists I've ever met. All he did was weave an extended metaphor and
he maintains the disicpline of that conceit....which, admittedly, can
make many others bounce off the walls displaying all sorts of
emotional plumage.

Take Arnold out of the equation and I guarantee George's conversations
are significantly different...pungent, perhaps, idiosyncratic
certainly, but equally perceptive and determinedly normal.

Which is why he has, in Arnold's absurd terms, his posse. What neither
Arnold nor 2pid (damn, Sssshhh, I love that name!) pick up, is that as
much as it may be George's posse, it is every bit as much Boon's
posse, Ssssshh's posse, Herbert's posse and many others.

To express it in George's famous phrase (which if he didn't really say
it, he might as well have), "there are the normals and then there's
everyone else."

Of course, there's also class war, which goes on every moment of every
day of every year 'round these parts. We'll save that discussion for
another time.

That pretty much sums it up, I'd say.


Herbert

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

(snipped for brevity_
>>
>> If anybody else joins in, it's a "sickness" or an "addiction" or some
>> reflection of some mental deficiency. Give 2pid credit for allowing
>> that he has seen GOIA's insanity for what it is through the veil and
>> fog of 2pid's stupid act though.
>
>Besides, who's "piling on" George's persona? Seems that Scott wants
>things his way and interprets his own bullying as some kind of
>altruistic white knight defense of the defenseless. Or he's just
>contrary.
>
>Stephen

I vote for the latter. Lovely perception, Stephen.

Herbert

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Feb 2, 8:39*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > On Feb 2, 12:35*pm, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > > In article >,
> > > > *George M. Middius > wrote:
> >
> > > > > MiNe 109 said:
> >
> > > > > > > > * * * * Personally, I prefer both paths. Leave for a good
> > > > > > > > while,
> > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > come back a la George and blow the buggy ******* out of the
> > > > > > > > water.
> >
> > > > > > > *Instead you're actually just blowing the *******. *He likes it.
> >
> > > > > > All apologies, Herbert, Scott gets 'everybody's gay' when disagreed
> > > > > > with.
> >
> > > > > I can't believe you read Yapper's rant. I could almost hear his
> > > > > doggie
> > > > > head
> > > > > exploding.
> >
> > > > I admit I skipped to the end.
> >
> > > *A sure sign of AADD. *You should be examined.
> > > I might be giving you one A too much credit.
> >
> > If you mean Attention Deficit Disorder, yes, you are.
>
> I meant Adult ADD, thanks for admitting that was giving you too
> much credit.

I was unaware there was a separate category. However, this information
is academic and you're either fishing or just making stuff up.

> > Perhaps there were some nuances I missed by scanning it, but your reply
> > seems in order with what I read.
>
> Who knows what an ADD sufferer really reads?

Go volunteer as a reading tutor at a middle school if you want to know.

Stephen

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 3, 11:48*am, ScottW > wrote:
> On Feb 2, 8:39*pm, MiNe 109 * > wrote:

> > Perhaps there were some nuances I missed by scanning it, but your reply
> > seems in order with what I read.
>
> * Who knows what an ADD sufferer really reads?

Is autism different from ADD? LoL.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 3, 1:49*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:

> *ScottW > wrote:

> > * Who knows what an ADD sufferer really reads?
>
> Go volunteer as a reading tutor at a middle school if you want to know.

You can't be serious. :-)

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:

> On Feb 3, 1:49*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
>
> > *ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > * Who knows what an ADD sufferer really reads?
> >
> > Go volunteer as a reading tutor at a middle school if you want to know.
>
> You can't be serious. :-)

Nah. ;-)

Stephen