Real engineers vs. Internet engineers

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I know quite a few EEs and EEEs in the real world, and in most cases,
they are extremely personable individuals who are able to relate and
converse with their fellow human beings. I know I've made a couple of
blanket statements about the inability of these people to understand
language or enjoy the grey areas of life, but for the most part this
is more concentrated among so-called Internet EEs.

That brings me to the subject of Internet EEs, and whether they are
true EEs or not. Most of the engineers I meet in the real world are
very different than the ones I meet on the Internet.

Here's an example. If you talk about a high end tweak that may not
have an immediate scientific explanation, a real EE will say,
"Hmmm...I can think of a few reasons why this might work. I'd love to
get my hands on this product and find out for myself." An Internet EE
will say, "Snake oil! Bull****! You're all idiots for believing in
this stuff!" Not exactly a scientific approach, I must say.

Why the disparity? I suspect real EEs don't have the time to hang out
on Internet discussion groups and argue like this. Some do appear
periodically to tweak the noses of the Internet EEs, but you'll
usually find that they don't stick around after they've made their
point. Logically, there is no reason. Only a fake Internet EE would
hang around and make thousands of posts, arguing with laymen. A real
EE simply has too much work to do. "Either you get it or you don't"
is usually their attitude.

So, when people come on here and flaunt their EEs, take it with a
grain of salt. One EE told me that if you have a degree in
engineering, you can get a job anywhere. In other words, you're not
spending endless hours playing on the Internet. Think about it.

Boon

[Eeyore]

wrote:

> Most of the engineers I meet in the real world are
> very different than the ones I meet on the Internet.

Probably on account of the medium.

Graham

[Arny Krueger]

> wrote in message


> I know quite a few EEs and EEEs in the real world, and in
> most cases, they are extremely personable individuals who
> are able to relate and converse with their fellow human
> beings. I know I've made a couple of blanket statements
> about the inability of these people to understand
> language or enjoy the grey areas of life, but for the
> most part this is more concentrated among so-called
> Internet EEs.

So Marc, how many of these nice people have you accused of being pedophiles?

OTOH, since much of what you post here is pure fantasy, perhaps these nice
people exist only in your mind.

[Arny Krueger]

"Eeyore" > wrote in
message
> wrote:
>
>> Most of the engineers I meet in the real world are
>> very different than the ones I meet on the Internet.
>
> Probably on account of the medium.

Right, I doubt that Marc is stupid enough to call them pedophiles to their
faces.

[George M. Middius]

Arnii "Not a real en-juh-near" Krooger whined:

> > I know quite a few EEs and EEEs in the real world, and in
> > most cases, they are extremely personable individuals who
> > are able to relate and converse with their fellow human
> > beings. I know I've made a couple of blanket statements
> > about the inability of these people to understand
> > language or enjoy the grey areas of life, but for the
> > most part this is more concentrated among so-called
> > Internet EEs.
>
> So Marc, how many of these nice people have you accused of being pedophiles?

Only a member of the living dead would ask that question.

> OTOH, since much of what you post here is pure fantasy, perhaps these nice
> people exist only in your mind.

;-)

To put Krooger's komments in kontext, everybody should bear in mind that
Arnii is insane.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Mar 10, 3:04*pm, George M. Middius <cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net> wrote:
> Arnii "Not a real en-juh-near" Krooger whined:

> > So Marc, how many of these nice people have you accused of being pedophiles?
>
> Only a member of the living dead would ask that question.

GOIA appears to have the same disease that 2pid has. 2pid still
'thinks' I have "accused" him of licking the balls of stray mongrels.

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On Mar 10, 1:04�pm, George M. Middius <cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net> wrote:
> Arnii "Not a real en-juh-near" Krooger whined:
>
> > > I know quite a few EEs and EEEs in the real world, and in
> > > most cases, they are extremely personable individuals who
> > > are able to relate and converse with their fellow human
> > > beings. �I know I've made a couple of blanket statements
> > > about the inability of these people to understand
> > > language or enjoy the grey areas of life, but for the
> > > most part this is more concentrated among so-called
> > > Internet EEs.
>
> > So Marc, how many of these nice people have you accused of being pedophiles?
>
> Only a member of the living dead would ask that question.
>
> > OTOH, since much of what you post here is pure fantasy, perhaps these nice
> > people exist only in your mind.
>
> ;-)
>
> To put Krooger's komments in kontext, everybody should bear in mind that
> Arnii is insane.

Yes. Normal engineers don't try to twist comments about the trade
into perverted sexual claims. Disgusting.

Boon

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Mar 10, 3:21*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On Mar 10, 1:12*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > wrote:
> > On Mar 10, 3:04*pm, George M. Middius <cmndr _ *george @ comcast .
>
> > net> wrote:
> > > Arnii "Not a real en-juh-near" Krooger whined:
> > > > So Marc, how many of these nice people have you accused of being pedophiles?
>
> > > Only a member of the living dead would ask that question.
>
> > GOIA appears to have the same disease that 2pid has. 2pid still
> > 'thinks' I have "accused" him of licking the balls of stray mongrels.
>
> You're ill. *Get some help.

I'm fine, 2pid. You should be too, as confession is good for the soul,
dog-licker. LOL!

But to paraphrase Winston Churchill: "Even if I was ill I'd recover,
and when I did you'd still be stupid."

[Clyde Slick]

as many of them as falsely accused Marc of sending them kiddie porn

[Arny Krueger]

> wrote in message

>
> Yes. Normal engineers don't try to twist comments about
> the trade into perverted sexual claims. Disgusting.

If you had the technical chops to be an engineer, that would be an
indictment of yourself, Marc.

[Clyde Slick]

On 10 Mar, 22:54, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>
> If you had the technical chops to be an engineer, that would be an
> indictment of yourself, Marc.

My Krooglsih decoder is not nearly advanced enough for that tidbit.

[George M. Middius]

Who wants to be assimilated? Raise your hands. Anybody? Anybody at all?
Come on, folks, this is an opportunity you get only a few times a year.
Arnii, if nobody signs up, you'll be held responsible.

> > Yes. Normal engineers don't try to twist comments about
> > the trade into perverted sexual claims. Disgusting.
>
> If you had the technical chops to be an engineer, that would be an
> indictment of yourself, Marc.

If you were a human being, Arnii, you'd be appalled at how appalling you
are. Or, to continue paraphrasing Winnie C., tomorrow and for the rest of
your life you'll still be a pathetic 'borg, but a Normal can learn
engineering and still be a Normal.

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On Mar 10, 8:22�pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On 10 Mar, 22:54, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > If you had the technical chops to be an engineer, that would be an
> > indictment of yourself, Marc.
>
> My Krooglsih decoder is not nearly advanced enough for that tidbit.

That's because you're using the wrong decoder. Use the Krooglish, not
the Krooglsih.

Boon

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On Mar 10, 8:42�pm, George M. Middius <cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net> wrote:
> Who wants to be assimilated? Raise your hands. Anybody? Anybody at all?
> Come on, folks, this is an opportunity you get only a few times a year.
> Arnii, if nobody signs up, you'll be held responsible.
>
> > > Yes. �Normal engineers don't try to twist comments about
> > > the trade into perverted sexual claims. �Disgusting.
>
> > If you had the technical chops to be an engineer, that would be an
> > indictment of yourself, Marc.
>
> If you were a human being, Arnii, you'd be appalled at how appalling you
> are. Or, to continue paraphrasing Winnie C., tomorrow and for the rest of
> your life you'll still be a pathetic 'borg, but a Normal can learn
> engineering and still be a Normal.

Exactly. Arny seems to be desperately holding onto some delusions,
such as degrees for engineers are beyond the realm of most people, and
that he went to a decent college.

Boon

[George M. Middius]

said:

> > If you were a human being, Arnii, you'd be appalled at how appalling you
> > are. Or, to continue paraphrasing Winnie C., tomorrow and for the rest of
> > your life you'll still be a pathetic 'borg, but a Normal can learn
> > engineering and still be a Normal.
>
> Exactly. Arny seems to be desperately holding onto some delusions,
> such as degrees for engineers are beyond the realm of most people, and
> that he went to a decent college.

Are you saying Shoescrape Community College isn't "decent"?

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On Mar 10, 9:40�pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...>I know quite a few EEs and EEEs in the real world, and in most cases,
> > they are extremely personable individuals who are able to relate and
> > converse with their fellow human beings. �I know I've made a couple of
> > blanket statements about the inability of these people to understand
> > language or enjoy the grey areas of life, but for the most part this
> > is more concentrated among so-called Internet EEs.
>
> [snip]
>
> I sympathize with your viewpoint, but I remember a semi-counterexample, who
> hung with us briefly seven or so years ago. He had an E.E. Ph.D, and had a
> small company that made digital preamps and such. One feature of his
> equipment was a digital-domain volume control. He was quite adamant that the
> loss of bits caused by digital attenation was inaudible. He was almost as
> strident about it as an "internet E.E.".

And he was also a pleasure to talk to...about audio, about music,
about a number of topics. He was fairly polite (except when it came
to Arny, obviously) and allowed the other person to express a contrary
opinion without being rude or losing his temper.

Boon

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On Mar 10, 8:58�pm, George M. Middius <cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net> wrote:
> said:
>
> > > If you were a human being, Arnii, you'd be appalled at how appalling you
> > > are. Or, to continue paraphrasing Winnie C., tomorrow and for the rest of
> > > your life you'll still be a pathetic 'borg, but a Normal can learn
> > > engineering and still be a Normal.
>
> > Exactly. �Arny seems to be desperately holding onto some delusions,
> > such as degrees for engineers are beyond the realm of most people, and
> > that he went to a decent college.
>
> Are you saying Shoescrape Community College isn't "decent"?

Fourth-tier regional college. Fourth-tier regional college. Fourth-
tier regional college.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

> On 10 Mar, 22:54, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>>
>>
>> If you had the technical chops to be an engineer, that
>> would be an indictment of yourself, Marc.
>
> My Krooglsih decoder is not nearly advanced enough for
> that tidbit.

It's so easy to talk over your head, Art.

[Arny Krueger]

> wrote in message


> Exactly. Arny seems to be desperately holding onto some
> delusions, such as degrees for engineers are beyond the
> realm of most people,

Indeed they are. Most of the engineering school washouts moved on to the
School of Education in my days. IOW, if you couldn't do the math, you got to
be Stephen or Jenn.

> and that he went to a decent college.

Marc, if you'd ever stayed with a profession long enough to try to get a
second job in it, you'd know that after your first professional job, the
school you went to paled in importance to what your previous job was.

[Clyde Slick]

On 11 Mar, 08:21, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:


> > *and that he went to a decent college.
>
> Marc, if you'd ever stayed with a profession long enough to try to get a
> second job in it, you'd know that after your first professional job, the
> school you went to paled in importance to what your previous job was.

Oakland University
Omni ashtrays
'Nuff said!!!!

[Arny Krueger]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

> On 11 Mar, 08:21, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>
>>> and that he went to a decent college.
>>
>> Marc, if you'd ever stayed with a profession long enough
>> to try to get a second job in it, you'd know that after
>> your first professional job, the school you went to
>> paled in importance to what your previous job was.
>
> Oakland University

So what?

> Omni ashtrays

Never happened, you're lying Art you ankle biter.

> 'Nuff said!!!!

Nonsense.

[George M. Middius]

said:

> And he was also a pleasure to talk to...about audio, about music,
> about a number of topics. He was fairly polite (except when it came
> to Arny, obviously) and allowed the other person to express a contrary
> opinion without being rude or losing his temper.

"Pleasure is irrelevant to audio."
--- A. Krooger (1999, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2007)




--

Marc, when you wrote "I'm sure Arny's keyboard is covered with
spooge by now." you were pretty close to telling the truth.
A. Krooger, Feb. 20, 2008

[George M. Middius]

Clyde Slick said:

> Oakland University
> Omni ashtrays
> 'Nuff said!!!!

They were highly accurate ashtrays, note.

[Clyde Slick]

On Mar 11, 11:49 am, George M. Middius <cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net> wrote:
> Clyde Slick said:
>
> > Oakland University
> > Omni ashtrays
> > 'Nuff said!!!!
>
> They were highly accurate ashtrays, note.


Krooger claims I was in error.
It might have been Horizon ashtrays, not Omni ashtrays.