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Arny Krueger
December 14th 07, 09:10 PM
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http://stereophile.com/asweseeit/907awsi/

Atkinson gives his approval to this AES conference paper by quoting it:

"I will end this month's essay by quoting, from a paper given at the
conference, the results of experiments on the audibility of high sampling
rates: "To achieve a higher degree of fidelity to the live analog reference,
we need to convert audio using a high sampling rate even when we do not use
microphones and loudspeakers having bandwidth extended far beyond 20kHz.
Listeners judge high sampling conversion as sounding more like the analog
reference when listening to standard audio bandwidth." (footnote 2)
"So that's that, then

So says John, by now more than a little desperate to find support for his
ragazine's manifold exceptional claims about the audible benefits of high
sample rates.

Well, the paper John mentioned finally made it out into the public domain by
being posted on the web at

http://www.hitech-projects.com/hera/people/aarts/papers/aar07pu4.pdf

In fact the paper's stated conclusion is in the opinion of many a crock, a
travesty of science. It rests its conclusions on two listening tests where
the listeners affirmed the experiment's hypothesis about 50% of the time, or
even less. IOW the experimental results did not significantly differ from
random guessing.

This brings to mind some earlier blind amplifier tests that John once tried
for foist off on the audiophile world. Unfortunately the highly-regarded
statistician that gave John his comeuppance that time has since passed.

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
December 14th 07, 09:41 PM
On Dec 14, 3:10 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

You remind me of Flyin' Bwian, GOIA. LoT"S!

LOL!

Clyde Slick
December 16th 07, 12:33 PM
On 15 Dec, 01:28, Bret Ludwig > wrote:
> > This brings to mind some earlier blind amplifier tests that John once tried
> > for foist off on the audiophile world. Unfortunately the highly-regarded
> > statistician that gave John his comeuppance that time has since passed.
>
> Maybe Stereophile should hire Steve Sailer.

reviewing a perfect 5.1, where all the sound comes only out of the
right rear.