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I'm using Jam and I can title each cut in the software but when I burn a CD,
the names revert to track 1, 2, 3, etc. when I put the burned ĒD in the
computer. Other CDs I have received pop up the names in the computer.

Does anyone know what software (Mac) can do this and make Red Book CDs?

Thanks,

Ty Ford


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Ty,
Are you referring to CD-Text capability or as, for instance, in iTunes when
the program goes out on the web searching through databases for the track
info which it then displays?
dave

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I'm using Jam and I can title each cut in the software but when I burn a
CD,
the names revert to track 1, 2, 3, etc. when I put the burned ĒD in the
computer. Other CDs I have received pop up the names in the computer.

Does anyone know what software (Mac) can do this and make Red Book CDs?

Thanks,

Ty Ford


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On Oct 19, 11:43 am, Ty Ford wrote:
I'm using Jam and I can title each cut in the software but when I burn a CD,
the names revert to track 1, 2, 3, etc. when I put the burned ĒD in the
computer. Other CDs I have received pop up the names in the computer.

Does anyone know what software (Mac) can do this and make Red Book CDs?

Thanks,

Ty Ford

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Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU


Although hardware CD players can sometimes read CD-TEXT and display
track names, most software (such as iTunes) does not. Such programs
look up track information in an online database, the exact name of
which escapes me at the moment. You can submit your track information
to this database so that other users will be able to retrieve track
names when connected to the internet. In iTunes, you can rename each
individual track and then choose "submit CD track names" from the
Advanced menu.

That being said, there has to be some CD burning software that lets
you submit track titles when you burn a new disc. Seems cumbersome to
require someone to burn a CD first and then submit track information
in some other piece of software afterwards...

Travis Garrison

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On Oct 19, 11:43 am, Ty Ford wrote:
I'm using Jam and I can title each cut in the software but when I burn a CD,
the names revert to track 1, 2, 3, etc. when I put the burned ĒD in the
computer. Other CDs I have received pop up the names in the computer.

Does anyone know what software (Mac) can do this and make Red Book CDs?

Thanks,

Ty Ford

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Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU


Although hardware CD players can sometimes read CD-TEXT and display
track names, most software (such as iTunes) does not. Such programs
look up track information in an online database, the exact name of
which escapes me at the moment. You can submit your track information
to this database so that other users will be able to retrieve track
names when connected to the internet. In iTunes, you can rename each
individual track and then choose "submit CD track names" from the
Advanced menu.

That being said, there has to be some CD burning software that lets
you submit track titles when you burn a new disc. Seems cumbersome to
require someone to burn a CD first and then submit track information
in some other piece of software afterwards...

Travis Garrison

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Feurio will do this. It can find names on the CDDB or you can
put your own stuff in it. I put the chords and stuff in and on
some car players they show on the display. When I put them
back into Feurio they show up as I typed them. Feurio is
shareware with a fee to turn off the reminders.

peace
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On Oct 19, 11:43 am, Ty Ford wrote:
I'm using Jam and I can title each cut in the software but
when I burn a CD,
the names revert to track 1, 2, 3, etc. when I put the
burned ĒD in the
computer. Other CDs I have received pop up the names in the
computer.

Does anyone know what software (Mac) can do this and make
Red Book CDs?

Thanks,

Ty Ford

--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU


Although hardware CD players can sometimes read CD-TEXT and
display
track names, most software (such as iTunes) does not. Such
programs
look up track information in an online database, the exact
name of
which escapes me at the moment. You can submit your track
information
to this database so that other users will be able to retrieve
track
names when connected to the internet. In iTunes, you can
rename each
individual track and then choose "submit CD track names" from
the
Advanced menu.

That being said, there has to be some CD burning software that
lets
you submit track titles when you burn a new disc. Seems
cumbersome to
require someone to burn a CD first and then submit track
information
in some other piece of software afterwards...

Travis Garrison





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Although hardware CD players can sometimes read CD-TEXT and display
track names, most software (such as iTunes) does not. Such programs
look up track information in an online database, the exact name of
which escapes me at the moment.


CDDB = CD Database

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"Ty Ford" wrote in message . ..

I'm using Jam and I can title each cut in the software but when I burn a CD,
the names revert to track 1, 2, 3, etc. when I put the burned ĒD in the
computer. Other CDs I have received pop up the names in the computer.

Does anyone know what software (Mac) can do this and make Red Book CDs?

Thanks,

Ty Ford



Although it's only good for burning and nothing else (IMHO), I'm pretty certain
that Toast Titanium supports CD text, which will still appear *after* the track
number. I haven't tried using for this, and typically only use it for quick-burns
for testing in other environments, and for burning DVD session backups and
other data burning applications I tried calling the studio to clarify this before
posting, but I don't get any answer. I can check for more details on this later,
although many players and some playback software do not support CD text
from audio CDs, even thought they do from MP3 discs, BlueRay, etc.. It also
only conforms to Red Book (TTBOMK) in the sense of the 2 Second pause
at the beginning.


http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/to.../overview.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_%28software%29


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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:04:04 -0400, Dave Morrison wrote
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Dave, you scurrilous top poster you, I get audio CD here that sould cut
names on my Mac and I don't think they're going to CDDB to get it. It's not
necessarily in iTunes or QT, just opening the disk as it's own window.

Regards,

Ty

Ty,
Are you referring to CD-Text capability or as, for instance, in iTunes when
the program goes out on the web searching through databases for the track
info which it then displays?
dave

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I'm using Jam and I can title each cut in the software but when I burn a
CD,
the names revert to track 1, 2, 3, etc. when I put the burned ĒD in the
computer. Other CDs I have received pop up the names in the computer.

Does anyone know what software (Mac) can do this and make Red Book CDs?

Thanks,

Ty Ford


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Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:13:28 -0400, Travis Garrison wrote
(in article .com):

On Oct 19, 11:43 am, Ty Ford wrote:
I'm using Jam and I can title each cut in the software but when I burn a CD,
the names revert to track 1, 2, 3, etc. when I put the burned ĒD in the
computer. Other CDs I have received pop up the names in the computer.

Does anyone know what software (Mac) can do this and make Red Book CDs?

Thanks,

Ty Ford

--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU


Although hardware CD players can sometimes read CD-TEXT and display
track names, most software (such as iTunes) does not. Such programs
look up track information in an online database, the exact name of
which escapes me at the moment. You can submit your track information
to this database so that other users will be able to retrieve track
names when connected to the internet. In iTunes, you can rename each
individual track and then choose "submit CD track names" from the
Advanced menu.

That being said, there has to be some CD burning software that lets
you submit track titles when you burn a new disc. Seems cumbersome to
require someone to burn a CD first and then submit track information
in some other piece of software afterwards...

Travis Garrison


Thanks Travis,

I'm pretty sure I've seen names other than with CDDB. I may be hallucinating.


Regards,

Ty Ford

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"Ty Ford" wrote in message
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I'm using Jam and I can title each cut in the software but when I burn a CD,
the names revert to track 1, 2, 3, etc. when I put the burned ĒD in the
computer. Other CDs I have received pop up the names in the computer.

Does anyone know what software (Mac) can do this and make Red Book CDs?

Thanks,

Ty Ford



Although it's only good for burning and nothing else (IMHO), I'm pretty
certain
that Toast Titanium supports CD text, which will still appear *after* the
track
number. I haven't tried using for this, and typically only use it for
quick-burns
for testing in other environments, and for burning DVD session backups and
other data burning applications I tried calling the studio to clarify this
before
posting, but I don't get any answer. I can check for more details on this
later,
although many players and some playback software do not support CD text
from audio CDs, even thought they do from MP3 discs, BlueRay, etc.. It also
only conforms to Red Book (TTBOMK) in the sense of the 2 Second pause
at the beginning.


http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/to.../overview.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_%28software%29


DM


Thanks David!

Regards,

Ty Ford



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http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/to.../overview.html


David,

Is Toast Red Book compliant? I thought only Jam was?

Thanks again,

Ty Ford

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I get audio CD here that sould cut
names on my Mac and I don't think they're going to CDDB to get it. It's not
necessarily in iTunes or QT, just opening the disk as it's own window.


I syour machine hooked to the 'net when doing that? If so, tried it not
so hooked?

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:04:04 -0400, Dave Morrison wrote
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Dave, you scurrilous top poster you, I get audio CD here that sould cut
names on my Mac and I don't think they're going to CDDB to get it. It's not
necessarily in iTunes or QT, just opening the disk as it's own window.


In that case it's a CD-Text volume on the disk.
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WaveLab supports CD text.
But your burner's also have to support it.
I have two burners...one will burn CD text, one doesn't.
In my options menu it tells me which features are supported for each device.

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Ty Ford wrote:
I'm using Jam and I can title each cut in the software but when I
burn a CD, the names revert to track 1, 2, 3, etc. when I put the
burned ĒD in the computer. Other CDs I have received pop up the names
in the computer.

Does anyone know what software (Mac) can do this and make Red Book
CDs?

Thanks,

Ty Ford


CD Architect runs OK on a Windows emulator , I gather, and is the best
Red-book CD authoring app of any platform.

http://tinyurl.com/2wd84m

However what you are seeing may not actally be CD-TEXT, but possibly the
online CDDB-linked data, which figures out the disc and titles from
track-engths. Not much help for non-commercial or project CDs.

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WaveLab supports CD text.
But your burner's also have to support it.
I have two burners...one will burn CD text, one doesn't.
In my options menu it tells me which features are supported for each device.

Poly



AHa! That must be it.

Thanks Poly.

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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:26:29 -0400, polymod wrote
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WaveLab supports CD text.
But your burner's also have to support it.
I have two burners...one will burn CD text, one doesn't.
In my options menu it tells me which features are supported for each
device.

Poly



AHa! That must be it.

Thanks Poly.


Sometimes a drive firmware update will enable CD-TEXT writing.

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Ty Ford wrote:
I'm using Jam and I can title each cut in the software but when I
burn a CD, the names revert to track 1, 2, 3, etc. when I put the
burned ĒD in the computer. Other CDs I have received pop up the names
in the computer.

Does anyone know what software (Mac) can do this and make Red Book
CDs?

Thanks,

Ty Ford


CD Architect runs OK on a Windows emulator , I gather, and is the best
Red-book CD authoring app of any platform.

http://tinyurl.com/2wd84m

However what you are seeing may not actally be CD-TEXT, but possibly the
online CDDB-linked data, which figures out the disc and titles from
track-engths. Not much help for non-commercial or project CDs.


If you keep your workstation off of the interenet and use other
playback sources, you will know this.

Only the latest versions of CD Architect actually support CD Text.






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If you keep your workstation off of the interenet and use other
playback sources, you will know this.

Only the latest versions of CD Architect actually support CD Text.


Of course absolutely no reason to have the latest update of CD-A, assuming
your SF is V5 or later...

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David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:


If you keep your workstation off of the interenet and use other
playback sources, you will know this.

Only the latest versions of CD Architect actually support CD Text.


Of course absolutely no reason to have the latest update of CD-A, assuming
your SF is V5 or later...

geoff



Please then... tell me how to get Architect 5 to actually write CD Text
after being fed by SF 6 (Sonic's last version).

I have a couple of clients who would dearly like to know this.






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David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:


If you keep your workstation off of the interenet and use other
playback sources, you will know this.

Only the latest versions of CD Architect actually support CD Text.


Of course absolutely no reason to have the latest update of CD-A,
assuming your SF is V5 or later...

geoff



Please then... tell me how to get Architect 5 to actually write CD
Text
after being fed by SF 6 (Sonic's last version).


Um, the *latest* version is 9 .

I have a couple of clients who would dearly like to know this.


Firstly you update it to the latest update, CDA5.2. I believe that if you
have 5.0 you are entitled to 5.2 ( 5.2c is the latest release, which now
recognises the Izotope plugins than come with SF9).

Get 5.2 andhow is in the manual and help.

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David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:

If you keep your workstation off of the interenet and use other
playback sources, you will know this.

Only the latest versions of CD Architect actually support CD Text.
Of course absolutely no reason to have the latest update of CD-A,
assuming your SF is V5 or later...

geoff


Please then... tell me how to get Architect 5 to actually write CD
Text
after being fed by SF 6 (Sonic's last version).


Um, the *latest* version is 9 .


Um... Dave is right, 6 was Sonic Foundry's last release, the new one is
Sony.
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news David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:

If you keep your workstation off of the interenet and use other
playback sources, you will know this.

Only the latest versions of CD Architect actually support CD Text.
Of course absolutely no reason to have the latest update of CD-A,
assuming your SF is V5 or later...

geoff

Please then... tell me how to get Architect 5 to actually write CD
Text
after being fed by SF 6 (Sonic's last version).


Um, the *latest* version is 9 .


Um... Dave is right, 6 was Sonic Foundry's last release, the new one
is Sony.


Only if you want to be predantic. Sony Creative Software is same people,
same place, same building, same product line. And all warranties and
product entitlements are carried over. What's the problem ?

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What's the problem ?


The problem is that Arch 5.01c doesn't write CD text.


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What's the problem ?


The problem is that Arch 5.01c doesn't write CD text.


If you can update it effortlessly and without cost to the update that does
support CD-TEXT, again - what is the problem ?

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What's the problem ?


The problem is that Arch 5.01c doesn't write CD text.


If you can update it effortlessly and without cost to the update that does
support CD-TEXT, again - what is the problem ?


There is no problem. I said that the only version of CDArchitect that
will write CD text is the latest one, and on that we seem to be in
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:32:44 -0400, David Morgan \(MAMS\) wrote
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http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/to.../overview.html


David,

Is Toast Red Book compliant? I thought only Jam was?

Thanks again,

Ty Ford



In the sense of the primary gap, yes. As to subcodes and such,
I don't think so.... and you wouldn't want to see what the cough-cough
editing capabilites look like. But Toast Titanium dithers and source
audio to 16bit fairly well and makes great data DVDs. ;-)

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