[john hanks]

Hi,

I'm new to the group and hope this hasn't been covered too recently.
I would like to purchase an external hard drive to use with my laptop,
which is now an iBook, but will soon be a Mac Book Pro. I use the
laptop for 2 track recording, real time performance using software
synths (battery 3, etc) via a DrumKat MIDI controller, and sound
design using either Digital Performer or Logic (any opinions on those
are welcome, too).

I would like to know what external hard drives other folks use. I'm
looking for portability/small size, firewire, fast drive speed, etc,
and low noise level: no loud fans.

I guess my request kind of borders between a couple of newsgroups
besides this one, but rec.audio.pro has the most members and traffic,
so here I am.

Thanks for your help,

John

[Arny Krueger]

"john hanks" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi,

I'm new to the group and hope this hasn't been covered too recently.
I would like to purchase an external hard drive to use with my laptop,
which is now an iBook, but will soon be a Mac Book Pro. I use the
laptop for 2 track recording, real time performance using software
synths (battery 3, etc) via a DrumKat MIDI controller, and sound
design using either Digital Performer or Logic (any opinions on those
are welcome, too).

I would like to know what external hard drives other folks use. I'm
looking for portability/small size, firewire, fast drive speed, etc,
and low noise level: no loud fans.

AFAIK, external hard drives are now pretty thoroughly commoditized. They
even interchange between PCs and Macs pretty transparently. I favor buying
them from the main drive manufacturers, like Seagate and Western Digital.

[jwvm]

On Sep 4, 9:34 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"john hanks" wrote in message

ups.com...

Hi,

I'm new to the group and hope this hasn't been covered too recently.
I would like to purchase an external hard drive to use with my laptop,
which is now an iBook, but will soon be a Mac Book Pro. I use the
laptop for 2 track recording, real time performance using software
synths (battery 3, etc) via a DrumKat MIDI controller, and sound
design using either Digital Performer or Logic (any opinions on those
are welcome, too).

I would like to know what external hard drives other folks use. I'm
looking for portability/small size, firewire, fast drive speed, etc,
and low noise level: no loud fans.

AFAIK, external hard drives are now pretty thoroughly commoditized. They
even interchange between PCs and Macs pretty transparently. I favor buying
them from the main drive manufacturers, like Seagate and Western Digital.

Agreed! One thing that the OP might want to consider is whether you
want to use a 3.5" or 2.5" hard drive. The 3.5" type hard drives will
be faster, cheaper/GB, physically larger and require a wall wart. The
2.5" drive typically only require a single connection (to the laptop)
and no external power. Your application does not sound very demanding
so you would probably be fine with a 2.5" hard drive.

[Mikey]

"Soundhaspriority" wrote in message
...
Stay away from plastic cases without fans. They cook the drive. The
optimal material is extruded aluminum, which conducts heat readily, with
the entire enclosure acting as a radiator. You will have more choices if
you buy the drive and the case separately.

If your purpose is audio, Samsung is a good choice, since they are still
significantly quieter than other brands. But except for audio, all other
current drives are quiet enough to be unannoying.

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511


"john hanks" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi,

I'm new to the group and hope this hasn't been covered too recently.
I would like to purchase an external hard drive to use with my laptop,
which is now an iBook, but will soon be a Mac Book Pro. I use the
laptop for 2 track recording, real time performance using software
synths (battery 3, etc) via a DrumKat MIDI controller, and sound
design using either Digital Performer or Logic (any opinions on those
are welcome, too).

I would like to know what external hard drives other folks use. I'm
looking for portability/small size, firewire, fast drive speed, etc,
and low noise level: no loud fans.

I guess my request kind of borders between a couple of newsgroups
besides this one, but rec.audio.pro has the most members and traffic,
so here I am.

Thanks for your help,

John



I have never used anything with the name "Samsung" on it that worked proerly
for any length of time. YMMV.

Mikey Wozniak
Nova Music Productions
This sig is haiku

[Scott Fraser]

AFAIK, external hard drives are now pretty thoroughly commoditized. They
even interchange between PCs and Macs pretty transparently.

Sometimes. There's some PC format (not fat32) which will hang OSX.

I favor buying them from the main drive manufacturers, like Seagate
and Western Digital.

However, there is a Seagate model, (& I can't be specific because
there is no model number on the case,) which automatically goes into
sleep/spin down mode after a certain amount of non-activity. It's
usually about the amount of time it takes to set up an additional
microphone, walk back to the control & hit record. Then, you wait, &
wait, & wait for the spinning beach ball. It takes 10 or 15 seconds to
wake up. It's a big pain in the ass & I would happily ****can this
drive if it weren't the property of my best client. Caveat emptor.
Make sure the drive you buy doesn't take naps on its own initiative.

Scott Fraser

[Eeyore]

Scott Fraser wrote:

AFAIK, external hard drives are now pretty thoroughly commoditized. They
even interchange between PCs and Macs pretty transparently.

Sometimes. There's some PC format (not fat32) which will hang OSX.

I favor buying them from the main drive manufacturers, like Seagate
and Western Digital.

However, there is a Seagate model, (& I can't be specific because
there is no model number on the case,) which automatically goes into
sleep/spin down mode after a certain amount of non-activity. It's
usually about the amount of time it takes to set up an additional
microphone, walk back to the control & hit record. Then, you wait, &
wait, & wait for the spinning beach ball. It takes 10 or 15 seconds to
wake up. It's a big pain in the ass & I would happily ****can this
drive if it weren't the property of my best client. Caveat emptor.
Make sure the drive you buy doesn't take naps on its own initiative.

Such 'features' can usually be enabled and disabled with the manufacturer's
diagnostic software.

Graham

[[email protected]]

Sorry guys, forgery.

Bob Morein
Dresher, PA
(215) 646-4894

Wow Bob this forgery thing is really getting annoying. How do we know
who is who? The post sounded reasonable enough. Perhaps you might
consider giving up using your real name and posting under a handle but
tell us all that you're "leaving the group". do you think your nemisis
will know who you have returned as?

[Richard Crowley]

wrote ...
Wow Bob this forgery thing is really getting annoying. How do we know
who is who? The post sounded reasonable enough. Perhaps you might
consider giving up using your real name and posting under a handle but
tell us all that you're "leaving the group". do you think your nemisis
will know who you have returned as?

You can tell who is really who by glancing at the message headers.
You can do it, we can do it, and so can the "nemisis".

[Arny Krueger]

wrote in message
...

Sorry guys, forgery.

Bob Morein
Dresher, PA
(215) 646-4894

Wow Bob this forgery thing is really getting annoying. How do we know
who is who?

Look at post properties and scan for "buzzardnews" in the path. Sure sign of
a forgery.

The post sounded reasonable enough.

In its way.

AFAIK, it wasn't a forgery, but the forgery warning post was a forgery.

Remember "Spy versus spy" in Mad magazine? ;-)

[[email protected]]

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:42:10 -0700, "Richard Crowley"
wrote:

You can tell who is really who by glancing at the message headers.
You can do it, we can do it, and so can the "nemisis".

What is it you see there?
here's how mine looks:

Path:
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Subject: external hard drive recommendations
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[[email protected]]

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:57:25 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

In its way.

AFAIK, it wasn't a forgery, but the forgery warning post was a forgery.

Remember "Spy versus spy" in Mad magazine? ;-)

Thanks Arny,
i just posted the two headers before I read you post. I see the
Buzzard now.

[Richard Crowley]

wrote ...
"Richard Crowley" wrote:
You can tell who is really who by glancing at the message headers.
You can do it, we can do it, and so can the "nemisis".

What is it you see there?
here's how mine looks:

Here is the impostor/nemisis...
X-Complaints-To:

Here is the real Morein...
X-Complaints-To:

There are likely other indicators, but this one seems the most
straightforward.

PS: Don't bother trying to complain to "buzzardnews". They don't even
have that "abuse@" address configured on their server. The impostor
has been using buzzardnews for a while now since they appear to be
amenable to idiots like him abusing the service.

[Arny Krueger]

"Soundhaspriority" wrote in message
...

The best way to tell is from the tone of the post.

I wouldn't count on that.

Remember, those of us who are looking in from the outside are essentially
doing a blind test when we examine the tone of the post.

This time through I was fooled.

Most everyone loses his composure once in a while.

Agreed.

But Mr. McCarty has an evil heart, and it shows in his forgeries, once you
understand his character.

All things considered and considering your history with me Robert... :-(

[AZ Nomad]

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:40:53 -0700, Richard Crowley wrote:

PS: Don't bother trying to complain to "buzzardnews". They don't even
have that "abuse@" address configured on their server. The impostor
has been using buzzardnews for a while now since they appear to be
amenable to idiots like him abusing the service.


The best thing to do with rogue sites like buzzardnews is to filter them
entirely.

[Scott Fraser]

2.5" drives can work on low power and are more silent. Current 2.5" drive are fast enough for even demanding applications. OP prefers firewire, but on laptops the firewire often does not support bus powered devices, while USB often does.

All Mac laptops support bus powered FireWire drives.

Scott Fraser

[[email protected]]

Call BuzzardNews !!
Their number is on their web page
909-435-4481 (CA)

They appear to be a respectable professional service.

[Richard Crowley]

wrote ...
Call BuzzardNews !!
Their number is on their web page
909-435-4481 (CA)

They appear to be a respectable professional service.

If they were "respectable" why do email messages to
bounce with the error
message that they don't even have that email address
configured on their server?

Did you try calling them? What did they say?

[Phildo]

"john hanks" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi,

I'm new to the group and hope this hasn't been covered too recently.
I would like to purchase an external hard drive to use with my laptop,
which is now an iBook, but will soon be a Mac Book Pro. I use the
laptop for 2 track recording, real time performance using software
synths (battery 3, etc) via a DrumKat MIDI controller, and sound
design using either Digital Performer or Logic (any opinions on those
are welcome, too).

I would like to know what external hard drives other folks use. I'm
looking for portability/small size, firewire, fast drive speed, etc,
and low noise level: no loud fans.

I just bought a couple of 500gb Western Digital MyBook drives with the new
upgraded firewire on them. Don't have the interface on my laptop but hooked
it up to a new mac last night and it is blisteringly fast. Have got several
of these drives and would certainly recommend them.

Phildo

[[email protected]]

"Richard Crowley" wrote:

Did you try calling them?



It's not my problem. Got a dime?

[Richard Crowley]

wrote...
"Richard Crowley" wrote:
Did you try calling them?

It's not my problem. Got a dime?

I already know that they aren't respectable and it isn't worth the dime.

YOU are the one who is claiming that
they are respectable
the phone number is working
they will answer the phone
they will listen to you sensibly
they will take some action

That puts the burden of proof on you.
Good luck. You'll need it. Bye.

[Jon]

"john hanks" wrote

I would like to purchase an external hard drive to use with my laptop,
which is now an iBook, but will soon be a Mac Book Pro.

I've had good luck with drives sold by Other World Computing at
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/

-- Jon (sig file missing)

[Rob Aries]

Possibly depending on the exact drive & case used, I would recommend
using an external power supply rather than bus power for audio
applications. Spoken from experience.

In article .com,
Scott Fraser wrote:


All Mac laptops support bus powered FireWire drives.

Scott Fraser