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Default File sounds different in Cakewalk than in Soundforge?

When I export a file from Cakewalk Home Studio 2, then tweak it in
Soundforge5, then import back into Cakewalk, I swear it sounds
different. I'll deal with some harsh sibilants in Soundforge, get it
the way I like it, but in Cakewalk there's a harsh edge again.

My imagination or does the import/export process effect the sound or
is there some other issue?

Using XP, soundcard is an M-Audio 24/96.

Thanks for all input.

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On Jul 5, 1:07 am, Doc wrote:
When I export a file from Cakewalk Home Studio 2, then tweak it in
Soundforge5, then import back into Cakewalk, I swear it sounds
different. I'll deal with some harsh sibilants in Soundforge, get it
the way I like it, but in Cakewalk there's a harsh edge again.


There shouldn't be a difference if all things are equal, but they may
not be. One of the things that separates one DAW program from another
is the mathematical algorithms and tricks that they apply internally,
and those are almost certainly different between those two programs.
So what you're hearing is quite possible.

An interesting experiment would be to save the file in Sound Forge,
then open it in Cakewalk, and save it again (under another name) in
Cakewalk. Burn a CD that contains the two files and compare what you
hear on the CD. Or simpler (but not as independent a test) you could
open the file in Sound Forge that you saved in Cakewalk and compare it
to the version of the file that hadn't been through Cakewalk.

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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:07:22 -0700, Doc wrote:

When I export a file from Cakewalk Home Studio 2, then tweak it in
Soundforge5, then import back into Cakewalk, I swear it sounds
different. I'll deal with some harsh sibilants in Soundforge, get it
the way I like it, but in Cakewalk there's a harsh edge again.

My imagination or does the import/export process effect the sound or
is there some other issue?

Using XP, soundcard is an M-Audio 24/96.


This could theoretically happen, due to different algorithms in the
two programs, but in practice it rarely does.

What processing are you actually doing in SF? You are,of course,
working with wav files, not saving as MP3 or any other compressed
format at any stage?
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Default File sounds different in Cakewalk than in Soundforge?

Any chance you're not importing the WAV you changed? I'm not familiar with
Soundforge, does it keep versions? If you're not sure, make a copy of the
Cake wav somewhere before you edit, make your changes in Soundforge, then
use a binary compare utility to make sure the WAV is different.

If that's not it, could Soundforge be changing the bit depth or sample rate?
Then Cake has to convert it back to your project settings when you
re-import. That could change the 'character' of the sound to your ears.

Sorry, that's all I can think of...
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When I export a file from Cakewalk Home Studio 2, then tweak it in
Soundforge5, then import back into Cakewalk, I swear it sounds
different. I'll deal with some harsh sibilants in Soundforge, get it
the way I like it, but in Cakewalk there's a harsh edge again.

My imagination or does the import/export process effect the sound or
is there some other issue?

Using XP, soundcard is an M-Audio 24/96.

Thanks for all input.



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On Jul 5, 9:39 am, "Sue Morton" wrote:
Any chance you're not importing the WAV you changed? I'm not familiar with
Soundforge, does it keep versions? If you're not sure, make a copy of the
Cake wav somewhere before you edit, make your changes in Soundforge, then
use a binary compare utility to make sure the WAV is different.

If that's not it, could Soundforge be changing the bit depth or sample rate?
Then Cake has to convert it back to your project settings when you
re-import. That could change the 'character' of the sound to your ears.

Sorry, that's all I can think of...
--
Sue Morton

"Doc" wrote in message

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When I export a file from Cakewalk Home Studio 2, then tweak it in
Soundforge5, then import back into Cakewalk, I swear it sounds
different. I'll deal with some harsh sibilants in Soundforge, get it
the way I like it, but in Cakewalk there's a harsh edge again.


My imagination or does the import/export process effect the sound or
is there some other issue?


Using XP, soundcard is an M-Audio 24/96.


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make a recording of a couple of tones about 1 kHz apart (at the same
time) and do an intermod test... use an FFT to analyze the results

Mark




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Doc wrote:
When I export a file from Cakewalk Home Studio 2, then tweak it in
Soundforge5, then import back into Cakewalk, I swear it sounds
different. I'll deal with some harsh sibilants in Soundforge, get it
the way I like it, but in Cakewalk there's a harsh edge again.

My imagination or does the import/export process effect the sound or
is there some other issue?

Using XP, soundcard is an M-Audio 24/96.

Thanks for all input.


Are you keeping the file format the same throughout - sample-rate, bitdepth,
peak levels, etc ? I can't imagine the audio endines woul be significantly
differnt in sound...

geoff


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