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Hey.
I'm a solo artist, who does Frank Turner-esque style music. It can be
found at http://www.myspace.com/joshseldis

I'm looking to record a CD, and rather than going into the studio, i
want to buy the equipment myself as there's no risk of wasting my
money.

So. I'm a student and i can really only afford to spend maybe 200 quid
at the most on a microphone or two. I already have a Shure SM58 for
vocals. I need an acoustic solution to record my guitar that would
also be gopod for piano. I am looking for a sound similar to Colin
Hay, Frank Turner and Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly.

Any mike suggestions?

[Scott Dorsey]

m wrote:

I'm looking to record a CD, and rather than going into the studio, i
want to buy the equipment myself as there's no risk of wasting my
money.

Oh, there is a great, great risk of wasting your money.

So. I'm a student and i can really only afford to spend maybe 200 quid
at the most on a microphone or two. I already have a Shure SM58 for
vocals. I need an acoustic solution to record my guitar that would
also be gopod for piano. I am looking for a sound similar to Colin
Hay, Frank Turner and Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly.

I think about the only thing I'd recommend in that price range might
be an AKG C535. In part, this is because piano is a hard instrument
to record well.

Any mike suggestions?

When you pay money for a studio, you're paying money for equipment but
more importantly for the room and the staff. Even on a severe budget
that can sometimes be worth every penny.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Geoff]

wrote:
Hey.
I'm a solo artist, who does Frank Turner-esque style music. It can be
found at http://www.myspace.com/joshseldis

I'm looking to record a CD, and rather than going into the studio, i
want to buy the equipment myself as there's no risk of wasting my
money.

So. I'm a student and i can really only afford to spend maybe 200 quid
at the most on a microphone or two. I already have a Shure SM58 for
vocals. I need an acoustic solution to record my guitar that would
also be gopod for piano. I am looking for a sound similar to Colin
Hay, Frank Turner and Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly.

Any mike suggestions?

Yep - flick the SM58. It is hardly a 'recording quality' mic, and will
likely impart more problems than answers.

Then as Scott suggests, get an AKG C535B, which will do good for recording
both vocal and acoustic guitar.

But don't expect to instantly sound like your idols who have spent thousands
on getting recorded by the right people with the right experience and the
right gear, in the right environment.


geoff

[Ty Ford]

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:17:55 -0400,
wrote
(in article .com):

Hey.
I'm a solo artist, who does Frank Turner-esque style music. It can be
found at http://www.myspace.com/joshseldis

I'm looking to record a CD, and rather than going into the studio, i
want to buy the equipment myself as there's no risk of wasting my
money.

So. I'm a student and i can really only afford to spend maybe 200 quid
at the most on a microphone or two. I already have a Shure SM58 for
vocals. I need an acoustic solution to record my guitar that would
also be gopod for piano. I am looking for a sound similar to Colin
Hay, Frank Turner and Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly.

Any mike suggestions?


Yes. I suggest you reconsider your thought of not going into a studio.
Good recordings are not trivial. Just having a computer and some gear, the
best of which you can't afford now anyway, is a virtual guarantee that your
project will suffer.

In what part of the world are you? Quid...so that's somewhere in the UK?
Maybe some of us can suggest a good studio.

Regards,

Ty Ford


--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com
Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU

[[email protected]]

On Mar 11, 5:17 pm,
wrote:
Hey.
I'm a solo artist, who does Frank Turner-esque style music. It can be
found athttp://www.myspace.com/joshseldis

I'm looking to record a CD, and rather than going into the studio, i
want to buy the equipment myself as there's no risk of wasting my
money.

So. I'm a student and i can really only afford to spend maybe 200 quid
at the most on a microphone or two. I already have a Shure SM58 for
vocals. I need an acoustic solution to record my guitar that would
also be gopod for piano. I am looking for a sound similar to Colin
Hay, Frank Turner and Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly.

Any mike suggestions?

I read your message and thought to myself, that was me about eight
years ago.

First it's the microphone, then it's the sound card, preamps, cables,
compressor, computer upgrades, converters, improving the recording
room acoustics, understanding acoustics, etc. Also, you will have to
do a lot of reading to understand what you're doing and what to do or
get to improve your sound. I wasted some money here and there along
the way and still have a lot to learn. Cheap stuff is good to
practice with, but then when you get better you will want to upgrade.
If you really enjoy the recording process go for it. It can be
frustrating when you start getting into recording. Your sound will
have an amateurish feel to it and you won't know why. Having a good
microphone is just the first step. That's where the studying
acoustics comes into play.

Paying people who have spent their lives working in acoustics, who
have all the good equipment and know how to use it, is a good
investment and not a waste. Just make sure you are prepared so that
your studio time is not wasted on the technical aspects of your
songs. Find someone who understands the kind of sound you want to
have and who you feel you can communicate your vision.

Either way you will probably want a way to record your ideas. As the
veteran suggests in the article below, get a four track and a
microphone that can be hooked up easily to it and focus on the music
if that's what you really enjoy and want to focus on. This simple
setup will be good for practicing recording before going into a
studio. Otherwise if you're a bit geeky, want control over every
aspect of your art, and enjoy the recording aspect, the other path
might be for you. Time spent in the science of acoustics is time that
can be spent practicing your instrument, writing, and playing in
public making contacts.

Read this article:
http://www.studioreviews.com/killingmusic.htm

[[email protected]]

On Mar 12, 2:28 pm, wrote:
On Mar 11, 5:17 pm,
wrote:

Hey.
I'm a solo artist, who does Frank Turner-esque style music. It can be
found athttp://www.myspace.com/joshseldis

I'm looking to record a CD, and rather than going into the studio, i
want to buy the equipment myself as there's no risk of wasting my
money.

So. I'm a student and i can really only afford to spend maybe 200 quid
at the most on a microphone or two. I already have a Shure SM58 for
vocals. I need an acoustic solution to record my guitar that would
also be gopod for piano. I am looking for a sound similar to Colin
Hay, Frank Turner and Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly.

Any mike suggestions?

I read your message and thought to myself, that was me about eight
years ago.

First it's the microphone, then it's the sound card, preamps, cables,
compressor, computer upgrades, converters, improving the recording
room acoustics, understanding acoustics, etc. Also, you will have to
do a lot of reading to understand what you're doing and what to do or
get to improve your sound. I wasted some money here and there along
the way and still have a lot to learn. Cheap stuff is good to
practice with, but then when you get better you will want to upgrade.
If you really enjoy the recording process go for it. It can be
frustrating when you start getting into recording. Your sound will
have an amateurish feel to it and you won't know why. Having a good
microphone is just the first step. That's where the studying
acoustics comes into play.

Paying people who have spent their lives working in acoustics, who
have all the good equipment and know how to use it, is a good
investment and not a waste. Just make sure you are prepared so that
your studio time is not wasted on the technical aspects of your
songs. Find someone who understands the kind of sound you want to
have and who you feel you can communicate your vision.

Either way you will probably want a way to record your ideas. As the
veteran suggests in the article below, get a four track and a
microphone that can be hooked up easily to it and focus on the music
if that's what you really enjoy and want to focus on. This simple
setup will be good for practicing recording before going into a
studio. Otherwise if you're a bit geeky, want control over every
aspect of your art, and enjoy the recording aspect, the other path
might be for you. Time spent in the science of acoustics is time that
can be spent practicing your instrument, writing, and playing in
public making contacts.

Read this article:http://www.studioreviews.com/killingmusic.htm

After you read that here are some more good ones from the home page...
go down and read mastering scams before you look for a studio.

http://www.studioreviews.com/

[[email protected]]

On Mar 12, 1:28 pm, wrote:

Paying people who have spent their lives working in acoustics, who
have all the good equipment and know how to use it, is a good
investment and not a waste. Just make sure you are prepared so that
your studio time is not wasted on the technical aspects of your
songs.


Then again, there's an argument to be made for learning by trying.

[Ty Ford]

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:12:29 -0400, wrote
(in article .com):

On Mar 12, 1:28 pm, wrote:

Paying people who have spent their lives working in acoustics, who
have all the good equipment and know how to use it, is a good
investment and not a waste. Just make sure you are prepared so that
your studio time is not wasted on the technical aspects of your
songs.


Then again, there's an argument to be made for learning by trying.


Sure. How long it takes to learn, how nice one's room is and how nice one's
gear and ones ability to use the gear to the best is just icing on the cake.

Regards,

Ty Ford



--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com
Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU

[Geoff]

wrote:
On Mar 12, 1:28 pm, wrote:

Paying people who have spent their lives working in acoustics, who
have all the good equipment and know how to use it, is a good
investment and not a waste. Just make sure you are prepared so that
your studio time is not wasted on the technical aspects of your
songs.


Then again, there's an argument to be made for learning by trying.

As long as one realises that one is still learning.

geoff

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On Mar 13, 8:12 am, wrote:
On Mar 12, 1:28 pm, wrote:

Paying people who have spent their lives working in acoustics, who
have all the good equipment and know how to use it, is a good
investment and not a waste. Just make sure you are prepared so that
your studio time is not wasted on the technical aspects of your
songs.

Then again, there's an argument to be made for learning by trying.

True, that's why I took this path. I agree that learning to do things
yourself is a good strategy. I just want the original poster to know
that his problems won't be solved, or expectations be met, by getting
a different microphone.