[Mike Miller]

I have an HD24XR and am mixing through an analog console - with the L/R
mixing coming back in to two channels of the HD24XR. The two track mix will
then get's transferred to a computer for some final touch-up with Sound
Forge 8 & CD Architect. I need to wind up with a 44.1k mix of course.

My question is: Should I record/mix everything at 48k (or higher) and then
do a sample rate conversion at the end of the process with Sound Forge or
should I record/track everything at 44.1 from the start? (48K would make my
life a bit easier from a BRC point of view...)

Thanks,
mike

[RD Jones]

Mike Miller wrote:

I have an HD24XR and am mixing through an analog console - with the L/R
mixing coming back in to two channels of the HD24XR. The two track mix will
then get's transferred to a computer for some final touch-up with Sound
Forge 8 & CD Architect. I need to wind up with a 44.1k mix of course.

My question is: Should I record/mix everything at 48k (or higher) and then
do a sample rate conversion at the end of the process with Sound Forge or
should I record/track everything at 44.1 from the start? (48K would make my
life a bit easier from a BRC point of view...)

No need for SRC if you:

Playback @ 48k - mix analog - record in SoundForge @ 44.1.

In the absence of adequate A/D conversion after the mixdown
I'd just track 44.1 from the start.

rd

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

"RD Jones" wrote in message...

Mike Miller wrote:

I have an HD24XR and am mixing through an analog console - with the L/R
mixing coming back in to two channels of the HD24XR. The two track mix will
then get's transferred to a computer for some final touch-up with Sound
Forge 8 & CD Architect. I need to wind up with a 44.1k mix of course.

My question is: Should I record/mix everything at 48k (or higher) and then
do a sample rate conversion at the end of the process with Sound Forge or
should I record/track everything at 44.1 from the start? (48K would make my
life a bit easier from a BRC point of view...)


No need for SRC if you:

Playback @ 48k - mix analog - record in SoundForge @ 44.1.

In the absence of adequate A/D conversion after the mixdown
I'd just track 44.1 from the start.

rd


We have a winner....

[Romeo Rondeau]

David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
"RD Jones" wrote in message...

Mike Miller wrote:
I have an HD24XR and am mixing through an analog console - with the L/R
mixing coming back in to two channels of the HD24XR. The two track mix will
then get's transferred to a computer for some final touch-up with Sound
Forge 8 & CD Architect. I need to wind up with a 44.1k mix of course.

My question is: Should I record/mix everything at 48k (or higher) and then
do a sample rate conversion at the end of the process with Sound Forge or
should I record/track everything at 44.1 from the start? (48K would make my
life a bit easier from a BRC point of view...)


No need for SRC if you:

Playback @ 48k - mix analog - record in SoundForge @ 44.1.

In the absence of adequate A/D conversion after the mixdown
I'd just track 44.1 from the start.

rd


We have a winner....

Really? Does he have a soundcard, or is he just FTP'ing the tracks into
Sound Forge? I'm assuming he's doing this because if he had a Soundcard,
he wouldn't be asking this question.

[Jim Gilliland]

Mike Miller wrote:
I have an HD24XR and am mixing through an analog console - with the L/R
mixing coming back in to two channels of the HD24XR. The two track mix will
then get's transferred to a computer for some final touch-up with Sound
Forge 8 & CD Architect. I need to wind up with a 44.1k mix of course.

My question is: Should I record/mix everything at 48k (or higher) and then
do a sample rate conversion at the end of the process with Sound Forge or
should I record/track everything at 44.1 from the start? (48K would make my
life a bit easier from a BRC point of view...)

If it weren't for the BRC, I'd say do the whole project at 44.1. But if you can
work a lot easier with the BRC at 48K (and I understand that that IS the case),
then that one sample rate conversion at the end of the process probably isn't
going to do much damage.

BTW, the HD24XR's clock is more accurate at 48K than it is at 44.1K, so that may
be a benefit as well. It's not a big issue, though.

[Mark]

R8Brain is an excellant SRC IMHO...you could work with everything at 24/48k
and mix at 24/48k and then use that to reduce the wav.

http://www.voxengo.com/product/r8brain/

Mark Skipper

[Scott Dorsey]

In article nB_rh.356921$1i1.136344@attbi_s72,
Mike Miller wrote:
I have an HD24XR and am mixing through an analog console - with the L/R
mixing coming back in to two channels of the HD24XR. The two track mix will
then get's transferred to a computer for some final touch-up with Sound
Forge 8 & CD Architect. I need to wind up with a 44.1k mix of course.

My question is: Should I record/mix everything at 48k (or higher) and then
do a sample rate conversion at the end of the process with Sound Forge or
should I record/track everything at 44.1 from the start? (48K would make my
life a bit easier from a BRC point of view...)

Sample rate conversion is bad. It's better than it used to be, but if you
want to release at 44.1, record at 44.1.

Why would recording at 48 ksamp/sec be any easier?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Mike Miller]

My question is: Should I record/mix everything at 48k (or higher) and then
do a sample rate conversion at the end of the process with Sound Forge or
should I record/track everything at 44.1 from the start? (48K would make
my
life a bit easier from a BRC point of view...)

Sample rate conversion is bad. It's better than it used to be, but if you
want to release at 44.1, record at 44.1.

Why would recording at 48 ksamp/sec be any easier?

Thanks to all for quick replies - I'll stick with 44.1 for tracking.

Previously, I'd been tracking at 48k on tape ADATs and mixing to 2-track
using a SV-3800 dat deck for AD conversion at 44.1k. I never realized just
how bad the converters were until I got the HD24XR . So for the time being,
I'm going to use it for 2-track A/D as well.

I'm considering purchasing an Apogee Minime USB for 2-track A/D in the
studio - as I can also use it with a laptop and smaart for live sound.
(Overkill for that app, but that's where I spend most of my time.) But,
that'll have to wait a while. (Any recommendations on a good portable 2
channel usb or firewire A/D with a mic pre & phantom power appreciated.)

The reason that 48k is "easier" for me is that with a BRC, I still have to
use "48k" and then "pitch down" with the BRC to 44.1k. It records at 44.1,
but the files are marked as 48k. When I transfer tracks to a computer for
editing prior to mixdown, I have to remark them as 44.1 if I want to hear
them at the right pitch. Not terrible, but an annoyance.

I just got the HD24XR yesterday, so I'm still experimenting & learning, but
so far, the coexistence with the BRC is very disappointing. I just want to
use the BRC for arming, transport and locate control - but apparently I have
to take it's word clock too and I can't find a way around that. The BRC
won't even transmit MIDI MMC unless there's a slave attached... But now I'm
way off topic...

For now, I'll stick with 44.1.

Thanks again,
Mike

[Geoff]

Mike Miller wrote:
I have an HD24XR and am mixing through an analog console - with the
L/R mixing coming back in to two channels of the HD24XR. The two
track mix will then get's transferred to a computer for some final
touch-up with Sound Forge 8 & CD Architect. I need to wind up with a
44.1k mix of course.
My question is: Should I record/mix everything at 48k (or higher) and
then do a sample rate conversion at the end of the process with Sound
Forge or should I record/track everything at 44.1 from the start? (48K
would make my life a bit easier from a BRC point of view...)


Track at 44K1. Nothing to be gained in tracking at 48K, and potentially
something to be lost in SRC.

geoff

[Geoff]

Mike Miller wrote:

MMC unless there's a slave attached... But now I'm way off topic...

For now, I'll stick with 44.1.

Or you could stick with 48K and leave it like that cos you can put any
sample rate (etc) you want into CDA. If you like CDA's SRC that is (set it
to 'Best').

geoff