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Default Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth. Please Don't Ignore.

Hi:

I know I've brought this subject up previously but I just can't get
over it. I apologize profusely to those who are annoyed.

I just wish the audio communties would revert back to real,
non-emulated SB16 FM synthesis and upgrade from there.

FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is
sample-playback. Sample playback synth = human kakaa

SB Live stinks like human kakaa. It has no real music synthesis. Its
all kakaa-like emulation.

SB16 PCI has the disadvantages of SB16 ISA [e.g. limitation to 16-bit
resolution] without the advantages [e.g. *real* FM synthesis]. All SB16
PCIs should be burned in oxyacetylene flames.

AFAIK, some PCI cards contain something called "Yamaha FM synth". I
don't really like it though, it is emulation. The Avance sound card has
"Avance FM synth", but its also a real stinker as it isn't a real
synth. The evil PCI loves to inflict pain on other types of slot -- ISA
being the unfortunate victim. PCI cards don't contain real FM synth.
Anything kind of 'OPL' a PCI would have, would be emulation. The only
'OPL' any PCI cards have is OPL emulation. Emulation stinks like human
diarrhea kakaa foam. I don't understand why a PCI card cannot contain a
real FM synth like Creative Music Synth [220]. Is there a technical
barrier to this?

I can easily tell the difference between the freshness, brightness,
warmth, and liveliness *real* synth from the stale, cacophonous -- or
rather kakaafoamus -- fart of emulation.

Creative Music Synth [220] = SB16 ISA's FM synth = my favorite MIDI
synth.

I don't care for other MIDI synths.

Creative Music Synth [220] is:

1. Real

and

2. Digital

and

3. Hardware

and

4. Real-time

All other FM synths are okay. Wavetables are also okay. But I don't
care for them.

Sample-playback synths are the worst.

Sample playback synths STEEinsert infinite amounts of
'E'EENKS!!insert infinite amounts of '!'!!

Sample-playback MIDI synths are the worst audio equipment ever. They
are stinky, tickly, itchy, creepy, irritating, farty, hissy,
terrifying, disgusting, and annoying.

I like the audio quality of Creative Music Synth [220]. It sounds so
warm, fresh, bright, rejuvenating, lively and effervescent.

The only thing about Creative Labs that I like is their Creative Music
Synth [220]. Other than that, they are a piece of kakaa.

Creative Labs is one f--king piece of crap that provides sh--ty
customer service. Their tech support is so limited.

Creative Technology used to be such a great company 13 years ago. Now
there are nothing but stinky-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-humans.

I've asked them about Creative Music Synth [220] only to be
totally-ignored.

Creative Labs also uses such f--ked up sickening disgusting
sample-playback synths in their PCI cards.

I wish that a gang of persons who support Creative Music Synth [220]
would attack Creative Technology and force them to make hardware
versions of Creative Music Synth [220] upgraded from 16-bit to 32-bit,
from 44.1 Khz to 192 Khz, and from stereo channels to 7.1 channels. And
from there, keep on upgrading!

If Creative Technology refuses, I hope the CMS220-advocating gang ties
up the people who make up that company and torturously force them to
repeatedly listen to sample-playback MIDI synths and emulation until
those Creative personnel are annoyed with burning headaches and are
deathly desperate for an escape. Only then will the people of Creative
Technology do the right thing -- make upgraded versions of Creative
Music Synth [220].

A rich spoiled-rotten company like Creative deserves to be heinously
hijacked and forced to do their duties.

I feel like torching the chips of sample-playback synths with
oxyacetylene flames to distort their audio output.

Anyone who respectfully uses any sample-playback MIDI synth needs to be
put in a mental hospital ASAP for his/her own good as [s]he is a danger
to him/herself.

Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth.

Its those sample-playback synths that are crap.

Sadly most MIDI magazines advertise the kakaa-stinky sample playback as
a good thing often referring to them as "wavetables". These sick
marketers call sample-playback synthesis "realistic sounding".

Sample-playbacks synths are nothing more than the sound of a stinky
fart emitted from a human colon.

I've been looking hard for true FM synths. No luck. Most PCI cards have
OPL emulation. I hate FM emulation. FM emulation -- much like any
sample-playback synthesis -- is to the ear what human kakaa is to the
nose.

I want *real* FM synthesis not some stinky trashy out-of-a-human-behind
emulation.

Those stinky-f==king marketers who refer to sample-playback synthesis
as "wavetables" deserve to be thrown into the sewer and made to eat
their own crap.

There is a world of different between sample-playback synthesis and
wavetable synthesis.

Wavetable synthesis is so much better than any kakaa-spitting
sample-playback synth but not nearly as heavenly as *true* FM
synthesis. Of all the *true* FM synths, Creative Music Synth [220] is
my favorite.

If a synth is *not*:

1. *Real*

AND

2. *Digital*

AND

3. *Real-time*

AND

4. *Hardware*

then it,
STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENKS!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I try playing Creative Music Synth [220], through my so-called 'karaoke
voice cancellor' -- which inverts the phase of one stereo chanel [right
or left] and then combines it the other channel -- which results in
anything identical in both the left and right channels being removed. I
get a mono of what was different in the left and right channels.

When I play Creative Music Synth [220] audio through the
voice-cancellor, it sounds more treble, sharper, brighter, warmer, and
crisper than when I don't use the voice-cancellor.

Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

Radium

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Default Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth. Please Don't Ignore.

Well, for you I would suggest buying an external synth.
I think the soundcards end up with the same ol synth, probably because
the chip is now cheap,
and tis easy to add to any soundcard they make.

So heres what you might do, if you like the idea.
Go to www.ebay.com and do a search on synth.
There are often some available for under $100.
Don't buy any that do not have the manuel with it,
because its hard to figure them out without a manuel,
and its difficult to get those old manuels.

Now there is a second source of synths, aoftware synths that you can
get
with computer music magazine. Almost every month there is a free synth
Well, you know how free goes? You pay $15 for the mag, but its a good
deal, and would give you a collection of synths more like you want.
Also,
if you upgraded your computer, you might even end up happy with the
sample playing
sunths. I am not sure if you can even use some of the better software
synths if you
are still making use of a computer that takes isa slots, which is
really old equipment.
When computers did not have much memory, they sampled the instruments
on maybe 3 or 4
notes per octave, and with the new computers that have 512 meg or more
of memory, the samplers
available usually have the samples sampled 5 notes per octave, or even
every last note for multiple octaves,
thus they sound much better than what you hear on your setup, and
besides, your listening to them on a cheap
soundblaster card? Visit a music store that has a better computer
setup than you have, and have them demo
some synths for you. .





Radium wrote:
Hi:

I know I've brought this subject up previously but I just can't get
over it. I apologize profusely to those who are annoyed.

I just wish the audio communties would revert back to real,
non-emulated SB16 FM synthesis and upgrade from there.

FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is
sample-playback. Sample playback synth = human kakaa

SB Live stinks like human kakaa. It has no real music synthesis. Its
all kakaa-like emulation.

SB16 PCI has the disadvantages of SB16 ISA [e.g. limitation to 16-bit
resolution] without the advantages [e.g. *real* FM synthesis]. All SB16
PCIs should be burned in oxyacetylene flames.

AFAIK, some PCI cards contain something called "Yamaha FM synth". I
don't really like it though, it is emulation. The Avance sound card has
"Avance FM synth", but its also a real stinker as it isn't a real
synth. The evil PCI loves to inflict pain on other types of slot -- ISA
being the unfortunate victim. PCI cards don't contain real FM synth.
Anything kind of 'OPL' a PCI would have, would be emulation. The only
'OPL' any PCI cards have is OPL emulation. Emulation stinks like human
diarrhea kakaa foam. I don't understand why a PCI card cannot contain a
real FM synth like Creative Music Synth [220]. Is there a technical
barrier to this?

I can easily tell the difference between the freshness, brightness,
warmth, and liveliness *real* synth from the stale, cacophonous -- or
rather kakaafoamus -- fart of emulation.

Creative Music Synth [220] = SB16 ISA's FM synth = my favorite MIDI
synth.

I don't care for other MIDI synths.

Creative Music Synth [220] is:

1. Real

and

2. Digital

and

3. Hardware

and

4. Real-time

All other FM synths are okay. Wavetables are also okay. But I don't
care for them.

Sample-playback synths are the worst.

Sample playback synths STEEinsert infinite amounts of
'E'EENKS!!insert infinite amounts of '!'!!

Sample-playback MIDI synths are the worst audio equipment ever. They
are stinky, tickly, itchy, creepy, irritating, farty, hissy,
terrifying, disgusting, and annoying.

I like the audio quality of Creative Music Synth [220]. It sounds so
warm, fresh, bright, rejuvenating, lively and effervescent.

The only thing about Creative Labs that I like is their Creative Music
Synth [220]. Other than that, they are a piece of kakaa.

Creative Labs is one f--king piece of crap that provides sh--ty
customer service. Their tech support is so limited.

Creative Technology used to be such a great company 13 years ago. Now
there are nothing but stinky-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-humans.

I've asked them about Creative Music Synth [220] only to be
totally-ignored.

Creative Labs also uses such f--ked up sickening disgusting
sample-playback synths in their PCI cards.

I wish that a gang of persons who support Creative Music Synth [220]
would attack Creative Technology and force them to make hardware
versions of Creative Music Synth [220] upgraded from 16-bit to 32-bit,
from 44.1 Khz to 192 Khz, and from stereo channels to 7.1 channels. And
from there, keep on upgrading!

If Creative Technology refuses, I hope the CMS220-advocating gang ties
up the people who make up that company and torturously force them to
repeatedly listen to sample-playback MIDI synths and emulation until
those Creative personnel are annoyed with burning headaches and are
deathly desperate for an escape. Only then will the people of Creative
Technology do the right thing -- make upgraded versions of Creative
Music Synth [220].

A rich spoiled-rotten company like Creative deserves to be heinously
hijacked and forced to do their duties.

I feel like torching the chips of sample-playback synths with
oxyacetylene flames to distort their audio output.

Anyone who respectfully uses any sample-playback MIDI synth needs to be
put in a mental hospital ASAP for his/her own good as [s]he is a danger
to him/herself.

Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth.

Its those sample-playback synths that are crap.

Sadly most MIDI magazines advertise the kakaa-stinky sample playback as
a good thing often referring to them as "wavetables". These sick
marketers call sample-playback synthesis "realistic sounding".

Sample-playbacks synths are nothing more than the sound of a stinky
fart emitted from a human colon.

I've been looking hard for true FM synths. No luck. Most PCI cards have
OPL emulation. I hate FM emulation. FM emulation -- much like any
sample-playback synthesis -- is to the ear what human kakaa is to the
nose.

I want *real* FM synthesis not some stinky trashy out-of-a-human-behind
emulation.

Those stinky-f==king marketers who refer to sample-playback synthesis
as "wavetables" deserve to be thrown into the sewer and made to eat
their own crap.

There is a world of different between sample-playback synthesis and
wavetable synthesis.

Wavetable synthesis is so much better than any kakaa-spitting
sample-playback synth but not nearly as heavenly as *true* FM
synthesis. Of all the *true* FM synths, Creative Music Synth [220] is
my favorite.

If a synth is *not*:

1. *Real*

AND

2. *Digital*

AND

3. *Real-time*

AND

4. *Hardware*

then it,
STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENKS!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I try playing Creative Music Synth [220], through my so-called 'karaoke
voice cancellor' -- which inverts the phase of one stereo chanel [right
or left] and then combines it the other channel -- which results in
anything identical in both the left and right channels being removed. I
get a mono of what was different in the left and right channels.

When I play Creative Music Synth [220] audio through the
voice-cancellor, it sounds more treble, sharper, brighter, warmer, and
crisper than when I don't use the voice-cancellor.

Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

Radium


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Default Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth. Please Don't Ignore.

notejam wrote:
I think the soundcards end up with the same ol synth, probably because
the chip is now cheap,
and tis easy to add to any soundcard they make.


If its so easy, then why don't they add the Creative Music FM Synth to
PCI cards?

Now there is a second source of synths, aoftware synths that you can
get
with computer music magazine.


Software synths stink badly.

Almost every month there is a free synth
Well, you know how free goes? You pay $15 for the mag, but its a good
deal, and would give you a collection of synths more like you want.
Also,
if you upgraded your computer, you might even end up happy with the
sample playing
sunths. I am not sure if you can even use some of the better software
synths if you
are still making use of a computer that takes isa slots, which is
really old equipment.


I have another PC that has PCI slots.

When computers did not have much memory, they sampled the instruments
on maybe 3 or 4
notes per octave, and with the new computers that have 512 meg or more
of memory, the samplers
available usually have the samples sampled 5 notes per octave, or even
every last note for multiple octaves,
thus they sound much better than what you hear on your setup, and
besides, your listening to them on a cheap
soundblaster card?


My other computer has SoundMax synth. Its quality stinks like a prison
bitch's kakaahole.

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Default Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth. Please Don't Ignore.

I mean easy, in its more easy to design a sound card when there is a
synth chip you can use than when there is no chip to use -- nothing in
my post about moving the isa synth chip to a pci.

Ps, I do understand Radium likes what he had, and just wishes like
crazy they would upgrade it.
But reallity is he is just protesting and that upgrade most likely will
never happen, so thats why I just suggest he try some other synths,
both hardware and software, non sampled , even cheesy if he likes
cheesy, but I think to him the old sb did not sound cheesy, just needs
upgraded and would be great today..

Good luck Radium in your effort, but think your out of luck, and will
need to explore other solutions to your synth needs.

Radium wrote:
notejam wrote:
I think the soundcards end up with the same ol synth, probably because
the chip is now cheap,
and tis easy to add to any soundcard they make.


If its so easy, then why don't they add the Creative Music FM Synth to
PCI cards?

Now there is a second source of synths, aoftware synths that you can
get
with computer music magazine.


Software synths stink badly.

Almost every month there is a free synth
Well, you know how free goes? You pay $15 for the mag, but its a good
deal, and would give you a collection of synths more like you want.
Also,
if you upgraded your computer, you might even end up happy with the
sample playing
sunths. I am not sure if you can even use some of the better software
synths if you
are still making use of a computer that takes isa slots, which is
really old equipment.


I have another PC that has PCI slots.

When computers did not have much memory, they sampled the instruments
on maybe 3 or 4
notes per octave, and with the new computers that have 512 meg or more
of memory, the samplers
available usually have the samples sampled 5 notes per octave, or even
every last note for multiple octaves,
thus they sound much better than what you hear on your setup, and
besides, your listening to them on a cheap
soundblaster card?


My other computer has SoundMax synth. Its quality stinks like a prison
bitch's kakaahole.


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