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Hi:
I know I've brought this subject up previously but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who are annoyed. I just wish the audio communties would revert back to real, non-emulated SB16 FM synthesis and upgrade from there. FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is sample-playback. Sample playback synth = human kakaa SB Live stinks like human kakaa. It has no real music synthesis. Its all kakaa-like emulation. SB16 PCI has the disadvantages of SB16 ISA [e.g. limitation to 16-bit resolution] without the advantages [e.g. *real* FM synthesis]. All SB16 PCIs should be burned in oxyacetylene flames. AFAIK, some PCI cards contain something called "Yamaha FM synth". I don't really like it though, it is emulation. The Avance sound card has "Avance FM synth", but its also a real stinker as it isn't a real synth. The evil PCI loves to inflict pain on other types of slot -- ISA being the unfortunate victim. PCI cards don't contain real FM synth. Anything kind of 'OPL' a PCI would have, would be emulation. The only 'OPL' any PCI cards have is OPL emulation. Emulation stinks like human diarrhea kakaa foam. I don't understand why a PCI card cannot contain a real FM synth like Creative Music Synth [220]. Is there a technical barrier to this? I can easily tell the difference between the freshness, brightness, warmth, and liveliness *real* synth from the stale, cacophonous -- or rather kakaafoamus -- fart of emulation. Creative Music Synth [220] = SB16 ISA's FM synth = my favorite MIDI synth. I don't care for other MIDI synths. Creative Music Synth [220] is: 1. Real and 2. Digital and 3. Hardware and 4. Real-time All other FM synths are okay. Wavetables are also okay. But I don't care for them. Sample-playback synths are the worst. Sample playback synths STEEinsert infinite amounts of 'E'EENKS!!insert infinite amounts of '!'!! Sample-playback MIDI synths are the worst audio equipment ever. They are stinky, tickly, itchy, creepy, irritating, farty, hissy, terrifying, disgusting, and annoying. I like the audio quality of Creative Music Synth [220]. It sounds so warm, fresh, bright, rejuvenating, lively and effervescent. The only thing about Creative Labs that I like is their Creative Music Synth [220]. Other than that, they are a piece of kakaa. Creative Labs is one f--king piece of crap that provides sh--ty customer service. Their tech support is so limited. Creative Technology used to be such a great company 13 years ago. Now there are nothing but stinky-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-humans. I've asked them about Creative Music Synth [220] only to be totally-ignored. Creative Labs also uses such f--ked up sickening disgusting sample-playback synths in their PCI cards. I wish that a gang of persons who support Creative Music Synth [220] would attack Creative Technology and force them to make hardware versions of Creative Music Synth [220] upgraded from 16-bit to 32-bit, from 44.1 Khz to 192 Khz, and from stereo channels to 7.1 channels. And from there, keep on upgrading! If Creative Technology refuses, I hope the CMS220-advocating gang ties up the people who make up that company and torturously force them to repeatedly listen to sample-playback MIDI synths and emulation until those Creative personnel are annoyed with burning headaches and are deathly desperate for an escape. Only then will the people of Creative Technology do the right thing -- make upgraded versions of Creative Music Synth [220]. A rich spoiled-rotten company like Creative deserves to be heinously hijacked and forced to do their duties. I feel like torching the chips of sample-playback synths with oxyacetylene flames to distort their audio output. Anyone who respectfully uses any sample-playback MIDI synth needs to be put in a mental hospital ASAP for his/her own good as [s]he is a danger to him/herself. Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth. Its those sample-playback synths that are crap. Sadly most MIDI magazines advertise the kakaa-stinky sample playback as a good thing often referring to them as "wavetables". These sick marketers call sample-playback synthesis "realistic sounding". Sample-playbacks synths are nothing more than the sound of a stinky fart emitted from a human colon. I've been looking hard for true FM synths. No luck. Most PCI cards have OPL emulation. I hate FM emulation. FM emulation -- much like any sample-playback synthesis -- is to the ear what human kakaa is to the nose. I want *real* FM synthesis not some stinky trashy out-of-a-human-behind emulation. Those stinky-f==king marketers who refer to sample-playback synthesis as "wavetables" deserve to be thrown into the sewer and made to eat their own crap. There is a world of different between sample-playback synthesis and wavetable synthesis. Wavetable synthesis is so much better than any kakaa-spitting sample-playback synth but not nearly as heavenly as *true* FM synthesis. Of all the *true* FM synths, Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite. If a synth is *not*: 1. *Real* AND 2. *Digital* AND 3. *Real-time* AND 4. *Hardware* then it, STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENKS!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I try playing Creative Music Synth [220], through my so-called 'karaoke voice cancellor' -- which inverts the phase of one stereo chanel [right or left] and then combines it the other channel -- which results in anything identical in both the left and right channels being removed. I get a mono of what was different in the left and right channels. When I play Creative Music Synth [220] audio through the voice-cancellor, it sounds more treble, sharper, brighter, warmer, and crisper than when I don't use the voice-cancellor. Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Radium |
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Well, for you I would suggest buying an external synth.
I think the soundcards end up with the same ol synth, probably because the chip is now cheap, and tis easy to add to any soundcard they make. So heres what you might do, if you like the idea. Go to www.ebay.com and do a search on synth. There are often some available for under $100. Don't buy any that do not have the manuel with it, because its hard to figure them out without a manuel, and its difficult to get those old manuels. Now there is a second source of synths, aoftware synths that you can get with computer music magazine. Almost every month there is a free synth Well, you know how free goes? You pay $15 for the mag, but its a good deal, and would give you a collection of synths more like you want. Also, if you upgraded your computer, you might even end up happy with the sample playing sunths. I am not sure if you can even use some of the better software synths if you are still making use of a computer that takes isa slots, which is really old equipment. When computers did not have much memory, they sampled the instruments on maybe 3 or 4 notes per octave, and with the new computers that have 512 meg or more of memory, the samplers available usually have the samples sampled 5 notes per octave, or even every last note for multiple octaves, thus they sound much better than what you hear on your setup, and besides, your listening to them on a cheap soundblaster card? Visit a music store that has a better computer setup than you have, and have them demo some synths for you. . Radium wrote: Hi: I know I've brought this subject up previously but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who are annoyed. I just wish the audio communties would revert back to real, non-emulated SB16 FM synthesis and upgrade from there. FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is sample-playback. Sample playback synth = human kakaa SB Live stinks like human kakaa. It has no real music synthesis. Its all kakaa-like emulation. SB16 PCI has the disadvantages of SB16 ISA [e.g. limitation to 16-bit resolution] without the advantages [e.g. *real* FM synthesis]. All SB16 PCIs should be burned in oxyacetylene flames. AFAIK, some PCI cards contain something called "Yamaha FM synth". I don't really like it though, it is emulation. The Avance sound card has "Avance FM synth", but its also a real stinker as it isn't a real synth. The evil PCI loves to inflict pain on other types of slot -- ISA being the unfortunate victim. PCI cards don't contain real FM synth. Anything kind of 'OPL' a PCI would have, would be emulation. The only 'OPL' any PCI cards have is OPL emulation. Emulation stinks like human diarrhea kakaa foam. I don't understand why a PCI card cannot contain a real FM synth like Creative Music Synth [220]. Is there a technical barrier to this? I can easily tell the difference between the freshness, brightness, warmth, and liveliness *real* synth from the stale, cacophonous -- or rather kakaafoamus -- fart of emulation. Creative Music Synth [220] = SB16 ISA's FM synth = my favorite MIDI synth. I don't care for other MIDI synths. Creative Music Synth [220] is: 1. Real and 2. Digital and 3. Hardware and 4. Real-time All other FM synths are okay. Wavetables are also okay. But I don't care for them. Sample-playback synths are the worst. Sample playback synths STEEinsert infinite amounts of 'E'EENKS!!insert infinite amounts of '!'!! Sample-playback MIDI synths are the worst audio equipment ever. They are stinky, tickly, itchy, creepy, irritating, farty, hissy, terrifying, disgusting, and annoying. I like the audio quality of Creative Music Synth [220]. It sounds so warm, fresh, bright, rejuvenating, lively and effervescent. The only thing about Creative Labs that I like is their Creative Music Synth [220]. Other than that, they are a piece of kakaa. Creative Labs is one f--king piece of crap that provides sh--ty customer service. Their tech support is so limited. Creative Technology used to be such a great company 13 years ago. Now there are nothing but stinky-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-humans. I've asked them about Creative Music Synth [220] only to be totally-ignored. Creative Labs also uses such f--ked up sickening disgusting sample-playback synths in their PCI cards. I wish that a gang of persons who support Creative Music Synth [220] would attack Creative Technology and force them to make hardware versions of Creative Music Synth [220] upgraded from 16-bit to 32-bit, from 44.1 Khz to 192 Khz, and from stereo channels to 7.1 channels. And from there, keep on upgrading! If Creative Technology refuses, I hope the CMS220-advocating gang ties up the people who make up that company and torturously force them to repeatedly listen to sample-playback MIDI synths and emulation until those Creative personnel are annoyed with burning headaches and are deathly desperate for an escape. Only then will the people of Creative Technology do the right thing -- make upgraded versions of Creative Music Synth [220]. A rich spoiled-rotten company like Creative deserves to be heinously hijacked and forced to do their duties. I feel like torching the chips of sample-playback synths with oxyacetylene flames to distort their audio output. Anyone who respectfully uses any sample-playback MIDI synth needs to be put in a mental hospital ASAP for his/her own good as [s]he is a danger to him/herself. Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth. Its those sample-playback synths that are crap. Sadly most MIDI magazines advertise the kakaa-stinky sample playback as a good thing often referring to them as "wavetables". These sick marketers call sample-playback synthesis "realistic sounding". Sample-playbacks synths are nothing more than the sound of a stinky fart emitted from a human colon. I've been looking hard for true FM synths. No luck. Most PCI cards have OPL emulation. I hate FM emulation. FM emulation -- much like any sample-playback synthesis -- is to the ear what human kakaa is to the nose. I want *real* FM synthesis not some stinky trashy out-of-a-human-behind emulation. Those stinky-f==king marketers who refer to sample-playback synthesis as "wavetables" deserve to be thrown into the sewer and made to eat their own crap. There is a world of different between sample-playback synthesis and wavetable synthesis. Wavetable synthesis is so much better than any kakaa-spitting sample-playback synth but not nearly as heavenly as *true* FM synthesis. Of all the *true* FM synths, Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite. If a synth is *not*: 1. *Real* AND 2. *Digital* AND 3. *Real-time* AND 4. *Hardware* then it, STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENKS!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I try playing Creative Music Synth [220], through my so-called 'karaoke voice cancellor' -- which inverts the phase of one stereo chanel [right or left] and then combines it the other channel -- which results in anything identical in both the left and right channels being removed. I get a mono of what was different in the left and right channels. When I play Creative Music Synth [220] audio through the voice-cancellor, it sounds more treble, sharper, brighter, warmer, and crisper than when I don't use the voice-cancellor. Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Radium |
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notejam wrote:
I think the soundcards end up with the same ol synth, probably because the chip is now cheap, and tis easy to add to any soundcard they make. If its so easy, then why don't they add the Creative Music FM Synth to PCI cards? Now there is a second source of synths, aoftware synths that you can get with computer music magazine. Software synths stink badly. Almost every month there is a free synth Well, you know how free goes? You pay $15 for the mag, but its a good deal, and would give you a collection of synths more like you want. Also, if you upgraded your computer, you might even end up happy with the sample playing sunths. I am not sure if you can even use some of the better software synths if you are still making use of a computer that takes isa slots, which is really old equipment. I have another PC that has PCI slots. When computers did not have much memory, they sampled the instruments on maybe 3 or 4 notes per octave, and with the new computers that have 512 meg or more of memory, the samplers available usually have the samples sampled 5 notes per octave, or even every last note for multiple octaves, thus they sound much better than what you hear on your setup, and besides, your listening to them on a cheap soundblaster card? My other computer has SoundMax synth. Its quality stinks like a prison bitch's kakaahole. |
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I mean easy, in its more easy to design a sound card when there is a
synth chip you can use than when there is no chip to use -- nothing in my post about moving the isa synth chip to a pci. Ps, I do understand Radium likes what he had, and just wishes like crazy they would upgrade it. But reallity is he is just protesting and that upgrade most likely will never happen, so thats why I just suggest he try some other synths, both hardware and software, non sampled , even cheesy if he likes cheesy, but I think to him the old sb did not sound cheesy, just needs upgraded and would be great today.. Good luck Radium in your effort, but think your out of luck, and will need to explore other solutions to your synth needs. Radium wrote: notejam wrote: I think the soundcards end up with the same ol synth, probably because the chip is now cheap, and tis easy to add to any soundcard they make. If its so easy, then why don't they add the Creative Music FM Synth to PCI cards? Now there is a second source of synths, aoftware synths that you can get with computer music magazine. Software synths stink badly. Almost every month there is a free synth Well, you know how free goes? You pay $15 for the mag, but its a good deal, and would give you a collection of synths more like you want. Also, if you upgraded your computer, you might even end up happy with the sample playing sunths. I am not sure if you can even use some of the better software synths if you are still making use of a computer that takes isa slots, which is really old equipment. I have another PC that has PCI slots. When computers did not have much memory, they sampled the instruments on maybe 3 or 4 notes per octave, and with the new computers that have 512 meg or more of memory, the samplers available usually have the samples sampled 5 notes per octave, or even every last note for multiple octaves, thus they sound much better than what you hear on your setup, and besides, your listening to them on a cheap soundblaster card? My other computer has SoundMax synth. Its quality stinks like a prison bitch's kakaahole. |
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