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Is there a real difference?Can you notice it?
I am in a process of buying cd player. I have made up my mind with either
NAD 521i or 541i. People tell me I will never hear the difference. I need to by CD player in next 2 days. Tell me what you think and help me make up my mind Thank you |
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Is there a real difference?Can you notice it?
A god dealer will let you take both with you home, and allow you to return
the one you don't want to keep. KE "Nervozni_Zika" wrote in message news:yud3b.279653$uu5.62673@sccrnsc04... I am in a process of buying cd player. I have made up my mind with either NAD 521i or 541i. People tell me I will never hear the difference. I need to by CD player in next 2 days. Tell me what you think and help me make up my mind Thank you |
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Is there a real difference?Can you notice it?
I went through the same process and opted for the 541i. Main difference:
Burr-Brown Sigma-Delta 24 bits digital to analogue converter vs 20 bits. It DOES make a difference; higher sound detail and very precise high frequencies is what I was able to discern. Other difference, the HDCD decoder. I've played the same CD on the 521i and 541i (Holy Cole) in HDCD and its very much richer on the 541i. Or course, HDCDs are not that popular... The 521i has no optical out or NAD link jacks. The 541i also uses Nichicon capacitors; not a major difference but they are of better quality than many other suppliers (AVX, TDK...). Yoan "Nervozni_Zika" wrote in message news:yud3b.279653$uu5.62673@sccrnsc04... I am in a process of buying cd player. I have made up my mind with either NAD 521i or 541i. People tell me I will never hear the difference. I need to by CD player in next 2 days. Tell me what you think and help me make up my mind Thank you |
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Actually you have touched on what makes most better CD players better.
It is easy enough to look at bit numbers and processor speed, but that is actually very deceptive. Some of the best sounding players are single bit/bitstream and use lower than 96k processing speed. Some use a higher speed and also do very well, so that gets confusing right? What is not written in the specs is the quality of the analog output section and that is what has a far greater impact on the sound than the similar digital devices. Better components and better designs yield better sound almost regardless of the chipsets chosen for many units. The selection of especially quiet op amps (few makers do that) and other integrated and passive components makes for a better unit. As with any amplifier, the power supply is very important and the better devices use better power supplies. All that attention to detail and use of superior parts adds up to a higher cost. The guys that tell you that DVD players are better and that CD players are not "high-end" anymore are misguided and need a good listen to the better Cd players. As far as the original poster goes, he needs to listen for himself. You can't hash out sound via specs alone. You have to listen. - Bill www.uptownaudio.com Roanoke VA (540) 343-1250 "Yoan Paquet" wrote in message .net... I went through the same process and opted for the 541i. Main difference: Burr-Brown Sigma-Delta 24 bits digital to analogue converter vs 20 bits. It DOES make a difference; higher sound detail and very precise high frequencies is what I was able to discern. Other difference, the HDCD decoder. I've played the same CD on the 521i and 541i (Holy Cole) in HDCD and its very much richer on the 541i. Or course, HDCDs are not that popular... The 521i has no optical out or NAD link jacks. The 541i also uses Nichicon capacitors; not a major difference but they are of better quality than many other suppliers (AVX, TDK...). Yoan "Nervozni_Zika" wrote in message news:yud3b.279653$uu5.62673@sccrnsc04... I am in a process of buying cd player. I have made up my mind with either NAD 521i or 541i. People tell me I will never hear the difference. I need to by CD player in next 2 days. Tell me what you think and help me make up my mind Thank you |
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"All Ears" wrote in message news:ZQq3b.285362$Ho3.39297@sccrnsc03...
A god dealer will let you take both with you home, and allow you to return the one you don't want to keep. I assume you mean a "good" dealer. In any case, what about the rejected player? If you were a followup customer would you want to come into a store and end up purchasing a player that someone else had taken home, run hard, maybe even abused a bit, and then rejected? I am not sure this "loaner" idea is a good thing for those who end up purchasing "used" gear at "new" gear prices. Just how "good" is a dealer that does stuff like this? Howard KE "Nervozni_Zika" wrote in message news:yud3b.279653$uu5.62673@sccrnsc04... I am in a process of buying cd player. I have made up my mind with either NAD 521i or 541i. People tell me I will never hear the difference. I need to by CD player in next 2 days. Tell me what you think and help me make up my mind Thank you |
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:42:15 GMT, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "Nervozni_Zika" wrote in message news:yud3b.279653$uu5.62673@sccrnsc04 I am in a process of buying cd player. I have made up my mind with either NAD 521i or 541i. People tell me I will never hear the difference. Not only that, but you probably won't hear the difference between these players and far less costly ones. Is it also true that one wouldn't hear the difference between a computer cd rom and and a dedicated cd player if they were both connected to the same output? |
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"nubi" wrote in message
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:42:15 GMT, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Nervozni_Zika" wrote in message news:yud3b.279653$uu5.62673@sccrnsc04 I am in a process of buying cd player. I have made up my mind with either NAD 521i or 541i. People tell me I will never hear the difference. Not only that, but you probably won't hear the difference between these players and far less costly ones. Is it also true that one wouldn't hear the difference between a computer cd rom and and a dedicated cd player if they were both connected to the same output? This depends on how well your computer's CD ROM plays audio CDs. Computer CD ROM players have historically had analog outputs that were pretty mediocre or worse. There has been a slow improvement in the audio quality of CDROM analog audio outputs, but they are still considerably substandard compared to a good $100 stand-alone DVD player. In numbers we're talking the difference between dynamic range in the 60-70 dB range versus dynamic range in the 90 dB range. Someplace around Win98SE Microsoft changed their Windows software so that audio CD playback could bypass these mediocre-or-worse analog circuits in the CDROM. At that time this mode of operation was optional and the default was still to use the analog circuits in the player. Over time MS has changed the defaults in their audio player software, and at this time, most PC audio playback bypasses the analog circuits of the CD ROM. This then puts responsibility for the sound quality of audio CD playback on your PC squarely on your PC's sound card. PC sound card sound quality also ranges from ridiculously bad to sublimely good. The average quality of PC sound playback through the output jack on the back of the PC has also improved, but it's still generally not nearly as good as a good $100 stand-alone DVD player unless it has been upgraded. Then, there is the problem the sound quality of your typical PC speaker system, which again can vary tremendously. |
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