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Hi all,
Im usually found posting in the Rec.Games.Pinball forum, but I came across this group while searching for some info to help repair my newly acquired CV D-9's. I'm the original owner of a set of D-5's since new back in 1984 or so, and I decided I needed a bigger set of speakers for the larger home we've moved into. These speakers having held up to the rigors of loud and continuous partying, I figured the big brother to these should be fine. So to that end, I found a slightly abused set, but figured I'd delve into the speaker repair bit as a break from pinball and video games for a while. The set I found is original, it seems to be an earlier version, as the knobs on the crossovers are different than the silver center knobs on sets I've seen elsewhere... Here's the status. Both woofers have deteriorated foam. I have just finised refoaming them myself with a correct set of new flat edged CV foam for these woofers. So far so good, no rubbing of the voice coil etc. One tweeter was shot, I had a spare that I know works, (bench tested for sound) and I verified that the small ribbon lead on the diaphram of the shot tweeter was in fact broken from the voice coil. I actually was able to solder it back, but it still has no continutity between lugs, and still produces no sound.. Guess the voice coil is also broken somewhere in the winding... Both crossovers pots are completely frozen. I actually tried to free up the adjustments with a pair of pliers, (with the knobs off of course) and actually broke one of the grey plastic adjustment cylinders... So I hooked everything back up, (Ive also verified on the bench that the 4 mids also work), but upon plugging them in, it just doesn't have the volume they should. In fact the mids and tweeters while producing sound, is so low, that it almost sounds like they aren't working at all. So, is this purely a function of the crossovers? I know that the adjustments on my D-5's just aren't THIS dramatic as to make it seem like there's no sound coming out at all when I turn it down, so even if they were frozen at the bottom of the output range on all 4 pots, I'd expect way more volume... The fuses are good, taking them out cuts the woofers all together. and I've checked all the connections for proper polarity . All black leads to the neg side, Blue for the pos highs, two yellows for the pos mids, and purple for the pos on the woofer. Red to the red input post, and the remaining black lead to the neg input. What do I do to turn up the volume on these? I've swapped one side for one of my D-5's and the volume is measureably lower versus that when one is on the right and the other is on the left.. Thanks in advance for any help, and forgive the long winded post. Vinny |
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![]() Bob, thanks for the reply and the suggestions. Im in agreement about the pots, as upon closer inspection, the midrange pot (which has a lead surrounded by clear plastic tubing as an insulator running next to it) had melted the plastic insuation. I had assumed as much, and the plating on said pot is also a bit toasty.. flaking off as a matter of fact. Again, my suspicions knowing the history of the ownership, as well as the propensity for people to try and drive these monsters all the way "to eleven" Im really not surprised. However, Im not sure where to locate the correct pots for this. Standard electic guitar pots are usually 250 or 500 ohms, and with these all being fried, Im not able to get a reading off of them for comparison. They have a number stamped in the back, but no indication of their ratings. Lastly, I was able to wire these back up after verification that I had inadvertantly wired them up incorrectly in the first place. Seems the Red and Purple wires, were backwards.. meaning the Red lead is NOT the lead that connects to the positive input at the back of the speaker... but in fact is the postive lead for the Woofer.. Switching these two, has solved 90 percent of the problems I was having with the mid range output being so anemic. Now to change out the pots, and get these back up to snuff. Thanks again for the reply, and if you know what value these pots are supposed to be, and/or where I can find any, I'm all ears. Vinny |
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However, Im not sure where to locate the correct pots for this.
Standard electic guitar pots are usually 250 or 500 ohms, and with these all being fried, Im not able to get a reading off of them for The cheap way to buy them is as L-pads. As standard parts, these are cheap and available. They could have custom values determined by a CAD program, but they would not be affordable, unless purchased from Cerwin-Vega. My guesstimate is for an 8 ohm part. Have a look at http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage....Group_ID=1 96 My choice for a guess: p/n 260-252, or 260-262, largely determined by what fits. Bob, thanks again for the info and the lead. I'll post back with results. Just got finished cleaning the cabinets, grills, etc., and they dont look half bad, and the sound isn't too shabby either. Still breaking in the new foam, so I haven't driven them too hard yet, but they do put out some bass... Good replacement for the D-5's that were handling sound for this half of the home. Vinny http://world4.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=47073225 |
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