[Peter]

A couple of days ago I posed the question below to two newsgroups.

However to date the only replies I have received so far is that I should not
"cross-post" to two newsgroups, and what actual price range I was seeking.

I truly do not know why I should not be able to address a question to two,
or perhaps even more, newsgroups in order to reach a larger number of people
who might be able to provide me with suggestions?

As far as the price range is concerned, I would like to stay within a top
range of $3,000.

Thanks again in advance to anyone who might have some recommendations for
me.

************************************************** *********

Does anyone perhaps know of a "current" stereo preamp/linestage, solid state
or partially tubed, that incorporates the following parameters, but is not
in the stratosphere price class:-

Balanced (XLR) and Unbalanced (RCA) Inputs

Balanced (XLR) and Unbalanced (RCA) Inputs

Remote Volume Control

Remote BALANCE Control (very important!)

If tubed, no more than two tubes

Built-in phono stage would be preferred but is not mandatory

Not a design where where an additional purchase of a $1,000, or more,
separate power supply is recommended to make it really sound "good"

Thank you in advance for your consideration and suggestions

[Arny Krueger]

"Peter" reply to newsgroup only wrote in message


Does anyone perhaps know of a "current" stereo
preamp/linestage, solid state or partially tubed, that
incorporates the following parameters, but is not in the
stratosphere price class:-
Balanced (XLR) and Unbalanced (RCA) Inputs

Balanced (XLR) and Unbalanced (RCA) Inputs

Remote Volume Control

Remote BALANCE Control (very important!)

That's a big deal breaker, all by itself. I agree that this is very
important, but it seems like the vendors don't.


The biggest potential deal-breaker is the requirement for remote controlled
volume and balance.

Here are some do-it-yourself solutions:

http://www.welbornelabs.com/remote.htm

http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_30559/article.html

http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/WinDVDRemote_Profile.jsp

The rest is easy - any old cheap (or expensive) small console.

It's silly, but even my $89 Sherwood Stereo receiver has its own remote, but
not my $10k 02R96. Of course I can control the 02R96 with a laptop on a
wireless LAN. ;-)

[Scott Dorsey]

Peter reply to newsgroup only wrote:
As far as the price range is concerned, I would like to stay within a top
range of $3,000.

See, the problem is that you want something with balanced inputs and outputs,
which pretty much means you're looking for something in the pro audio market.
But you also want a remote control, which pretty much means you are looking
for something in the consumer world.

Creek makes some home stereo preamps that do what you want, but they will
not have balanced inputs so you will need a bump box if you want to deal
with long +4 lines.

Broadcast Electronics make some router boxes that will do what you want,
but they will not have any remote controls.

Thanks again in advance to anyone who might have some recommendations for
me.

I think you're either going to have to change one of your constraints or
go custom. A company that makes custom mastering consoles, like Crookwood
or Manley, might be willing to make you something like this. It won't be
under $3k, I suspect, because of all the labour in making a one-off.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
"Peter" reply to newsgroup only wrote:

A couple of days ago I posed the question below to two newsgroups.

However to date the only replies I have received so far is that I should not
"cross-post" to two newsgroups, and what actual price range I was seeking.

I truly do not know why I should not be able to address a question to two,
or perhaps even more, newsgroups in order to reach a larger number of people
who might be able to provide me with suggestions?

As far as the price range is concerned, I would like to stay within a top
range of $3,000.

Thanks again in advance to anyone who might have some recommendations for
me.

************************************************** *********

Does anyone perhaps know of a "current" stereo preamp/linestage, solid state
or partially tubed, that incorporates the following parameters, but is not
in the stratosphere price class:-

Balanced (XLR) and Unbalanced (RCA) Inputs

Balanced (XLR) and Unbalanced (RCA) Inputs

Remote Volume Control

Remote BALANCE Control (very important!)

If tubed, no more than two tubes

Built-in phono stage would be preferred but is not mandatory

Not a design where where an additional purchase of a $1,000, or more,
separate power supply is recommended to make it really sound "good"

Thank you in advance for your consideration and suggestions

The NAD M3 integrated amp has a balanced XLR input and balance control
on the remote for under $3k.

Stephen

[[email protected]]

Bret Ludwig wrote:
There is no question but that you have two choices: have one built or
DIY.

Having one built if you go to the right place is going to be
expensive. The wrong vendor will be even more expensive. The right
vendor will fully document the product so that it can be fixed by any
competent facility. It will look nice. People will be impressed.
Unfortunately, it still will be nearly impossible to resell at any
significant price.

Building it yourself will provide hours of education and recreation
you desperately need. Actually, you even more desperately need a good
piece of ass, but that's beyond our power here. It probably won't look
too impressive and gear snobs will sniff in contempt, and you won't get
any money out of it, but you won't put that much into it, so who cares?


Your choice.

But now that you know, you will quit wasting bandwidth on this.

You will.


A naive question from technologically handicapped: L.M.

How do you reconcile a remote balance control with the upscale, one per
channel, volume controls such as stepped Alps or similar?
Ludovic Mirabel

[Paul Stamler]

wrote in message
ups.com...

A naive question from technologically handicapped: L.M.

How do you reconcile a remote balance control with the upscale, one per
channel, volume controls such as stepped Alps or similar?

Stepping motors.

Peace,
Paul

[Sander deWaal]

" said:


A naive question from technologically handicapped: L.M.

How do you reconcile a remote balance control with the upscale, one per
channel, volume controls such as stepped Alps or similar?


Think outside the box.
Relays for input selection, a ladder attenuator with relays, and a
balance control with relays.
Simple driver circuits like ULN2803 with built-in snubber diodes.

The actual RC can be made from off-the-shelf parts with RC5 code
(Philips), the receiver can be a dedicated IC or a PIC with a suitable
program.

Philips has a special RC5 decoder in the PCF series that outputs i2c
to interface with the logic- and driver circuits.

I wouldn't use stepper motors.

One doesn't have to re-invent the wheel, here's the ready-to-go
solution:
http://stiftsbogtrykkeriet.dk/~mcs/index.html


--
- Ever seen someone with 5.1 ears? So, what does that tell you? -

[Scott Dorsey]

wrote:
A naive question from technologically handicapped: L.M.

How do you reconcile a remote balance control with the upscale, one per
channel, volume controls such as stepped Alps or similar?

You make a stepped remote, using a stepper relay made into an attenuator.

Or, you make an binary chain of attenuators, with eight or so relays each
with a resistor of twice the value as the last... you need some fancy digital
electronics to drive that. However, the parts cost will be only a couple
hundred bucks if you use good relays, and that's a lot cheaper than the
stepper relays these days. And microprocessors are cheap and easy, even
for a one-off.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Trevor Wilson]

"Peter" reply to newsgroup only wrote in message
. ..
A couple of days ago I posed the question below to two newsgroups.

However to date the only replies I have received so far is that I should
not "cross-post" to two newsgroups, and what actual price range I was
seeking.

I truly do not know why I should not be able to address a question to two,
or perhaps even more, newsgroups in order to reach a larger number of
people who might be able to provide me with suggestions?

As far as the price range is concerned, I would like to stay within a top
range of $3,000.

Thanks again in advance to anyone who might have some recommendations for
me.

************************************************** *********

Does anyone perhaps know of a "current" stereo preamp/linestage, solid
state
or partially tubed, that incorporates the following parameters, but is not
in the stratosphere price class:-

Balanced (XLR) and Unbalanced (RCA) Inputs

Balanced (XLR) and Unbalanced (RCA) Inputs

Remote Volume Control

Remote BALANCE Control (very important!)

If tubed, no more than two tubes

Built-in phono stage would be preferred but is not mandatory

Not a design where where an additional purchase of a $1,000, or more,
separate power supply is recommended to make it really sound "good"

Thank you in advance for your consideration and suggestions

**Why do you want balanced in and out? Are you running 100Metre cables?
Balanced in and out provides no advantages, unless you have problems with
noise.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



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