[Rod]

What would you like to see in an audio store?

[Eeyore]

Rod wrote:

What would you like to see in an audio store?

An absence of snake oil contaminated products.

Graham

[Harry Lavo]

"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
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Rod wrote:
What would you like to see in an audio store?

Plenty of parts: drivers, speaker building materials, transformers,
tubes, etc. And a custom metal shop with shears, brakes and such who
could bend up boxes promptly and reasonably. Since shears and brakes
are not all that expensive and the skills can be taught to
anyone-except electronics nerds, it seems-it should be pretty
reasonable.


You'd have loved my dad's chain of electronics stores back in the
'50's.....Alvo Electronics throughout Central and Eastern PA.

Provided all that for electronic Radio and TV repair, ham radio enthusiasts,
and audio buffs...and carried/demoed/installed componenet hi-fi as well.
Early in the game one store had an attached recording studio as
well....direct-to-disk and Magnecorder equipped.

[Sander deWaal]

"Rod" said:

What would you like to see in an audio store?


No salespeople.

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"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Rod]

With al due respect, I am serious. It sounds like you want a balls to
the wall SERVICE CENTER with a machine shop.That is a completely
different industry. How many people do you personally know that would
patronize this type of business enough to make it worth doing. How much
square footage would be needed? What size city would this need to be
done in? If it is a large market, what would the rent be on a place
like this. What percentage of this citie's population would be remotely
interested in a store like this.As an audiophile myself, I recognize
that we are a VERY small percentage of the population. So give it a
little nore thought , and I would be very interested in your thoughts
on the viability of a veture like this.
Bret Ludwig wrote:
Rod wrote:
What would you like to see in an audio store?

Plenty of parts: drivers, speaker building materials, transformers,
tubes, etc. And a custom metal shop with shears, brakes and such who
could bend up boxes promptly and reasonably. Since shears and brakes
are not all that expensive and the skills can be taught to
anyone-except electronics nerds, it seems-it should be pretty
reasonable.

[George M. Middius]

Sander deWaal said:

What would you like to see in an audio store?

No salespeople.

You can get that via mail-order.



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[Rod]

Sander deWaal wrote:
"Rod" said:

What would you like to see in an audio store?


No salespeople.

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Rod]

Are you serious or kidding? I don't know what your experiences have
been, would you just like to listen and compare yourself? What if
you're just looking for a single component, how would you know how well
it will work in your system? With all due respect, no salesman wants
to deal with a self proclaimed know it all.
Sander deWaal wrote:
"Rod" said:

What would you like to see in an audio store?


No salespeople.

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Sander deWaal]

Also top posting, since you might not see my comments if they were
placed where they belong, namely *below* your questions:


I was half serious, half kidding.

I once worked in a hi end store myself, until the owner found out I
sold people what they wanted instead of what brought the highest
profit.

I'm also a DIY-er, and have some knowledge of audio electronics.

An ideal store would be the one where I could select and try out the
components of my choice (within a certain range of course, one can't
expect a store to have everything in stock), connect them myself,
place the speakers and add some room treartment like tube-traps and
such at my own experience.

And where I could listen and change components at will for a few
hours, with my music of choice, without bothering me every minute!

And finally, I would like to have the option of trying a certain
component in my own system at home for a limited period of time.

Since I rarely, if ever, buy commercial audio/video products new or
even in a store, it's a non-existing problem for me, actually.
I build most of my stuff myself, and buy second hand gear and tweak it
as I see fit. But that's not for everyone, I guess.

Sorry to have bothered you with my view of things, just follow the
"recommended components" list in Stereophile and all will be good.


"Rod" said:

Are you serious or kidding? I don't know what your experiences have
been, would you just like to listen and compare yourself? What if
you're just looking for a single component, how would you know how well
it will work in your system? With all due respect, no salesman wants
to deal with a self proclaimed know it all.
Sander deWaal wrote:
"Rod" said:

What would you like to see in an audio store?


No salespeople.

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."


--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

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Signal wrote:
"Rod" wrote:

What would you like to see in an audio store?

Moist ****s.

I was going to say naked chicks showing off the gear, but your idea is
more succinct.

Boon

[ScottW]

wrote in message
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Signal wrote:
"Rod" wrote:

What would you like to see in an audio store?

Moist ****s.

I was going to say naked chicks showing off the gear, but your idea is
more succinct.

You're not giving George any shopping options you biggotted
anti-gay intolerants.

ScottW

[ScottW]

"Soundhaspriority" wrote in message
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It is not viable as a brick-and-mortar operation. There are, however, web
machine shops, and companies that fabricate circuit boards based upon their
own proprietary, free, layout software. Perhaps a one-stop "go-to" for
individuals who wish to make one-offs or or small runs. The territory,
however, would have to be an entire continent. Nothing smaller could support
it.

It doesn't cost a lot of money to setup for simple 2 layer board
fabrication. I used to work with a guy in college who did
one off PCB layout and etch in his basement.

Heres a kit for do it yourself.

http://www.jdr.com/interact/item.asp?itemno=PCB-KIT

The bigger hurdle is surface mount soldering for the do it yourselfer.
There really isn't any low cost solder deposition, part place & reflow
equipment out there. Applying rework process tools to whole cca
assembly will work but is extremely slow and the quality/reliability
of the result will be substandard.
Using CMs is expensive as the solder stencil tooling and part
placement programming is expensive. And you can't get one of
components on tape and reel.

ScottW

[paul packer]

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:43:34 -0500, "Soundhaspriority"
wrote:


"Rod" wrote in message
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What would you like to see in an audio store?

The perfect store would run under the loving, caring touch of Greg Singh,
known here as "trotsky."

Interesting comment, Robert. What does it mean, I wonder.

[Arny Krueger]

"Signal" wrote in message
news
"Rod" wrote:

What would you like to see in an audio store?

Moist ****s.

Obviouisly, something that you only dream about.

[Clyde Slick]

Arny Krueger a scris:
"Signal" wrote in message
news
"Rod" wrote:

What would you like to see in an audio store?

Moist ****s.

Obviouisly, something that you only dream about.

"At least" he knows how to get them moist.

[George M. Middius]

Clyde Slick said:

"At least" he knows how to get them moist.

Arnii uses a firehose on the corpses he seduces.




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