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He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a solution
for poor records. He never noticed how most of them
degrade the sound..



Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ...


Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and dazed with envy,
hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I have not made the above quoted
comments about equalizers. Though for the record I can state that IMHO
hifi and equalizers have nothing to do with each other. And most
porabably Jenn would also have such an IHHO (in her humble opinion) too.

So Arny, here's another reason why you should be BAD and BAD BAD and BAD
BAD BAD to Jenn. Jennnn Jnennn, thank you jenen for proving to us, jeen,
that, you hate menn and equalizers jnenn, etc, you know the drill.

Suggestion for this thread: Let's bracnh out, and carry the different
subthreads of this thread to new threads. This thread is getting to be
soooo long that just opening up its tree takes some 5-6 seconds! which
is way too much time for a busy-schedule-guy like me self. Thanks.
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On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, "
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He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a
solution for poor records. He never noticed how most
of them degrade the sound..



Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ...


Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and
dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I
have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers.


No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past,
Fella. IME, you're pretty hysterical about them.

And BTW what do I mean by hysterical? I mean that your actions w/r/t
equalizers are dictated by emotions, as opposed to reason.

Why not address the issues I raised, such as the fact that modern production
and reproduction chains are full of equalizers, just ones that aren't
user-adjustable.

Though for the record I can state that IMHO hifi and
equalizers have nothing to do with each other. And most porabably Jenn
would also have such an IHHO (in her
humble opinion) too.


Thanks for confirming my recollections about you, Fella.

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Arny Krueger wrote:

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Arny Krueger wrote:


"paul packer" wrote in message



On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, "
wrote:




He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a
solution for poor records. He never noticed how most
of them degrade the sound..


Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ...


Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and
dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I
have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers.



No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past,
Fella.


Arn ol chum you just proved yourself a liar, yet again, arn ol chum. The
above was the first time I ever talked about equalizers around here...
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"Fella" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Fella" wrote in message


Arny Krueger wrote:


"paul packer" wrote in message



On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, "
wrote:




He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a
solution for poor records. He never noticed how most
of them degrade the sound..


Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ...


Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and
dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I
have not made the above quoted comments about
equalizers.


No, but you have said a lot of strange things about
equalizers in the past, Fella.


Arn ol chum you just proved yourself a liar, yet again,
arn ol chum. The above was the first time I ever talked
about equalizers around here...


OK, Fella I admit it, I discerned your thinking about equalizers from your
comments on electronics.

Looks like my prognostications were right-on.

So Fella, are you going to get back on topic or keep on trying to turn this
into a dog fight?

(I think I can accurately prognosticate the outcome to this issue as
well...) ;-)



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Arny Krueger wrote:


"Fella" wrote in message
t


Arny Krueger wrote:



"paul packer" wrote in message




On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, "
wrote:





He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a
solution for poor records. He never noticed how most
of them degrade the sound..


Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ...


Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and
dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I
have not made the above quoted comments about
equalizers.



No, but you have said a lot of strange things about
equalizers in the past, Fella.



Arn ol chum you just proved yourself a liar, yet again,
arn ol chum. The above was the first time I ever talked
about equalizers around here...



OK, Fella I admit it, I discerned your thinking about equalizers from your
comments on electronics.


When is it that outright lying called "I discerned your thinking" ..
etc? I know when... When arny krueger does it!

Why didn't you just admit to having confused the OP and thats that? Why
did you need to lie?




So Fella, are you going to get back on topic or keep on trying to turn this
into a dog fight?


What _is_ the topic arn ol chum? That IMHO eqs are no good? Which part
of "IMHO" do you not understand? Thanks.



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Arny Krueger wrote:


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Arny Krueger wrote:



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On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, "
wrote:





He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a
solution for poor records. He never noticed how
most of them degrade the sound..


Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ...

Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused
and dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as
usual, as I have not made the above quoted comments
about equalizers.



No, but you have said a lot of strange things about
equalizers in the past, Fella.



Arn ol chum you just proved yourself a liar, yet again,
arn ol chum. The above was the first time I ever talked
about equalizers around here...



OK, Fella I admit it, I discerned your thinking about
equalizers from your comments on electronics.


When is it that outright lying called "I discerned your
thinking" .. etc? I know when... When arny krueger does
it!


So, you're going the dogfight route. Are you predictable or what, Fella?

Why didn't you just admit to having confused the OP and
thats that? Why did you need to lie?


So, you're going as far as you can with the dogfight route. Are you
predictable or what, Fella?

So Fella, are you going to get back on topic or keep on
trying to turn this into a dog fight?


What _is_ the topic arn ol chum?


It seems obvious that you are attempting to start a dogfight with "STFU".
Basically, you're saying that only opinons that agree with yours should be
posted.

That IMHO eqs are no
good? Which part of "IMHO" do you not understand? Thanks.


Certainly the "humble" part of IMHO doesn't apply to you, Fella.

If you don't want people to comment on your opinions Fella, why post them in
front of the whole world?


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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Fella" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Fella" wrote in message


Arny Krueger wrote:


"paul packer" wrote in message



On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, "
wrote:




He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a
solution for poor records. He never noticed how most
of them degrade the sound..


Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ...


Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and
dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I
have not made the above quoted comments about
equalizers.


No, but you have said a lot of strange things about
equalizers in the past, Fella.


Arn ol chum you just proved yourself a liar, yet again,
arn ol chum. The above was the first time I ever talked
about equalizers around here...


OK, Fella I admit it, I discerned your thinking about equalizers from your
comments on electronics.

Looks like my prognostications were right-on.

So Fella, are you going to get back on topic or keep on trying to turn this
into a dog fight?

(I think I can accurately prognosticate the outcome to this issue as
well...) ;-)


LMAO!

So we can add 'perfeshinol mindreader' to your CV along with being a
perfeshinol rekordist and just one damned fine human being overall.

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Shhhh! said:

(I think I can accurately prognosticate the outcome to this issue as
well...) ;-)


LMAO!


That's what Poopie said, but he was exaggerating.

So we can add 'perfeshinol mindreader' to your CV along with being a
perfeshinol rekordist and just one damned fine human being overall.


LOL. It would be funny to compile all of Krooger's whacked-out klaims
from his Usenet posts into a résumé.




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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Fella" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message


On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, "
wrote:



He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a
solution for poor records. He never noticed how most
of them degrade the sound..


Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ...


Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and
dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I
have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers.


No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past,
Fella. IME, you're pretty hysterical about them.

And BTW what do I mean by hysterical? I mean that your actions w/r/t
equalizers are dictated by emotions, as opposed to reason.

Why not address the issues I raised, such as the fact that modern production
and reproduction chains are full of equalizers, just ones that aren't
user-adjustable.

Though for the record I can state that IMHO hifi and
equalizers have nothing to do with each other. And most porabably Jenn
would also have such an IHHO (in her
humble opinion) too.


Thanks for confirming my recollections about you, Fella.

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Krueger says:
Why not address the issues I raised, such as the fact that modern production
and reproduction chains are full of equalizers, just ones that aren't
user-adjustable.


A blanket, meaningless spout. Recording engineers do all kinds of
things. They use mikes to record. Should one use a mike at home to
record their records?

Some do it well some abominably. I have no idea how much, when and
where did such as John McClure use equalisers. Nor I'd guess have you.
But the idea that one can always correct with a domestic 10 band
"parametric" equaliser what the worst of them botched up in production
seems worthy of this Gulliver.

At best one combs it down to the bland Best Buy "system" quality plus
added distortion-signature equaliser.

Ludovic Mirabel

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Arny Krueger wrote:


Krueger says:


Why not address the issues I raised, such as the fact
that modern production and reproduction chains are full
of equalizers, just ones that aren't user-adjustable.


A blanket, meaningless spout.


Details have been provided.

Recording engineers do all
kinds of things. They use mikes to record. Should one use
a mike at home to record their records?


Meaningless posturing.

Some do it well some abominably. I have no idea how much,
when and where did such as John McClure use equalisers.


So why intrude your ignorance on these proceedings?

Nor I'd guess have you. But the idea that one can always
correct with a domestic 10 band "parametric" equaliser
what the worst of them botched up in production seems
worthy of this Gulliver.


That would be your idea Mirabel, not mine.

At best one combs it down to the bland Best Buy "system"
quality plus added distortion-signature equaliser.


Whatever that means.




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Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
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Krueger says:
Why not address the issues I raised, such as the fact that modern production
and reproduction chains are full of equalizers, just ones that aren't
user-adjustable.


A blanket, meaningless spout. Recording engineers do all kinds of
things. They use mikes to record. Should one use a mike at home to
record their records?


Adding background tracks to your recordings may help too. Recording
engineers do this as well. Les Paul would put his finger on the tape
spool to get different effects. That's apparently worth a try.
Recording a solo backwards and then playing it forwards has been done
too...

That doesn't even begin to discuss chorus, phase shift, harmonizers,
aural exciters, and so on, or different effects from different mic
placement.

I hope Arny will let us know how to use these effects in our home
recordings as well.

High fidelity to Arny appears to mean absolute accuracy to the original
recording (unless it doesn't).

=================================

You got it. Advice from Arny: use equaliser at home. Equalisers are
good. Proof: engineers use them all the time making records. So you use
equaliser at home to deequalise what they equalised.
That will restore things to absolute accuracy. That what in
Krueger-pedia is also called Hi-Fi.
Ludovic Mirabel

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You got it. Advice from Arny: use equaliser at home.


If the shoe fits....

Equalisers are good.


They are problem-solvers. If you don't have the problem they address, then
obviously don't use them!

Proof: engineers use them all the time making records.


Thus we can conclude that equalizers have a role in the reproduction of
music.

So you use equaliser at home to deequalise what they equalised.


If what they did does not concur with your preferences, what other options
exist?

That will restore things to absolute accuracy.


Gratuitous insertion of the word absolute makes this an excluded-middle
argument.

That what in Krueger-pedia is also called Hi-Fi.


Nahh, this post is about Mirabel's dogmatic posturing and distortions of the
truth.


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Krueger says:
Why not address the issues I raised, such as the fact
that modern production and reproduction chains are full
of equalizers, just ones that aren't user-adjustable.


A blanket, meaningless spout. Recording engineers do all
kinds of things. They use mikes to record. Should one
use a mike at home to record their records?


Adding background tracks to your recordings may help too.
Recording engineers do this as well. Les Paul would put
his finger on the tape spool to get different effects.
That's apparently worth a try. Recording a solo backwards
and then playing it forwards has been done too...


That's not the sort of recording that I do, or am interested in. My primary
focus is to create satisfying recordings of live performances that have
fidelity to the origional live perforamances.

Other forms of recording are fine for people who wish to pursue them. I
enjoy some recordings made that way. I just don't do that myself.

That doesn't even begin to discuss chorus, phase shift,
harmonizers, aural exciters, and so on, or different
effects from different mic placement.


Only the last item - mic choice and placement has any interest to me of all
the items in this list.

I hope Arny will let us know how to use these effects in
our home recordings as well.


Unlikely.

High fidelity to Arny appears to mean absolute accuracy
to the original recording (unless it doesn't).


Absolute accuracy is an unreachable goal with current technology.


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