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Friends,
I have a friend who's selling me a set of PSB Image 5Ts and a PSB
Powered subwoofer.
My primary objective is listening music and not watching movies,
atleast not yet. Please advise me as to which Amplifier/Integrated
amplifier I need to buy. My budget is ~ $500/-
Also, how much of the audio quality will be sacrificed if I end up
buying a Receiver (as a last resort).

Thanks for your suggestions, in advance.

Hemendra

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Sensitive speakers - a t-amp would do nicely. Have a look at the reviews. If
you will want to turn up the speakers to the maddest listening levels they
are capable of there is a good t-amp kit available with 100-200 watts per
channel.


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Friends,
I have a friend who's selling me a set of PSB Image 5Ts and a PSB
Powered subwoofer.
My primary objective is listening music and not watching movies,
atleast not yet. Please advise me as to which Amplifier/Integrated
amplifier I need to buy. My budget is ~ $500/-
Also, how much of the audio quality will be sacrificed if I end up
buying a Receiver (as a last resort).

Thanks for your suggestions, in advance.

Hemendra



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Thanks Audiophiles, especially Bill, Stuart and Rob,
I am curious and call it my ignorance but can I use the Powered Sub
with a V2.0 Integrated Amp or does it need to be a 2.1?
I looked at the Cambridge Sub too and read its reviews but it does not
talk about adding a Sub to it. Please comment.
Secondly, I am all for buying a used Int. Amp. would ROTEL, NAD OR
BRYSTON fit the bill even with the Sub? Where can I buy the used stuff
from apart from eBa that I am aware of.
Anyways, I will shut up now and listen to your pearls of wisdom.

Hemendra

On Oct 19, 8:36 am, Bill Riel wrote:
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says...

Friends,
I have a friend who's selling me a set of PSB Image 5Ts and a PSB
Powered subwoofer.
My primary objective is listening music and not watching movies,
atleast not yet. Please advise me as to which Amplifier/Integrated
amplifier I need to buy. My budget is ~ $500/-
Also, how much of the audio quality will be sacrificed if I end up
buying a Receiver (as a last resort).As someone else has posted the speakers are fairly sensitive and I

believe they are pretty easy to drive so you've got quite a few choices.
An integrated could make a nice choice, but if you are going to use the
powered sub most don't have any bass management.

While I know they are not considered the last word in high fidelity, a
receiver might just fit your budget a bit better, and will likely allow
easier integration of the sub due to bass management capabilities. It's
also possible that you will find that you don't need the sub -- this
will depend on personal preferences and the type of music you listen to,
but those PSBs aren't too bad at the low end, and a poorly integrated
sub can be far worse than none at all imo.

otoh, there is always the used market. An integrated from NAD, Rotel or
Bryston would be a nice find.

--
Bill


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In article . com,
says...

Thanks Audiophiles, especially Bill, Stuart and Rob,
I am curious and call it my ignorance but can I use the Powered Sub
with a V2.0 Integrated Amp or does it need to be a 2.1?


This depends on the sub - most powered subs will accept L/R speaker
inputs, in which case you can use a 2 channel Amp with them. To
effectively integrate the sub it must allow you to set the crossover and
volume level. Again, most modern subs will permit this, but I'm not
familiar with the PSB sub in question.

Typically, you want to set the sub's crossover so there's a slight
overlap with the low end extension of the speakers, but what actually
sounds the best can take a fair bit of trial and error.

Ideally, you don't want to notice the sub at all - it should just seem
as though your speakers have great low end extension. Probably with the
floorstanders in question we're talking about a crossover set at
something like 40 to 50 Hz or so, but it could be quite different
depending on your room and where the sub is placed. Sub placement has a
profound effect on how it sounds.

Bottom line: provided this sub has the ability to set the crossover and
volume level and has L/R speaker binding posts you can use it with any 2
channel amp.

And, as I said in my previous post, it's entirely possible that the bass
extension of the floorstanders in question will be more than adequate
for you without the sub.

For used audio gear, check out
http://audiogon.com/

Have fun!

Bill


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Few integrated amps have a dedicated output for the sub. As a result,
you need to find a way to separate off the LF for the sub. This can
be done in one of several ways:
1. If your integrated has a preamp (line-level) outputs and amp
(line-level) inputs, get a sub that has such inputs as well as
outputs for the main L+R. The sub is then inserted into the in/out
loops on the amp.
2. Get a powered sub with speaker level inputs and outputs. Feed the
amps outputs to the sub and run the main L+R speakers from the sub's
outputs.
3. Get a powered sub with speaker level inputs. This is wired in
parallel with your main speakers. The disadvantage of this (which
some think of as an advantage, btw) is that the main speakers still
get all the bass in addition to what the sub does.
4. Get an integrated with a sub output. They do exist.

Kal


On 19 Oct 2006 09:06:57 -0700, "Bantam" wrote:

Thanks Audiophiles, especially Bill, Stuart and Rob,
I am curious and call it my ignorance but can I use the Powered Sub
with a V2.0 Integrated Amp or does it need to be a 2.1?
I looked at the Cambridge Sub too and read its reviews but it does not
talk about adding a Sub to it. Please comment.
Secondly, I am all for buying a used Int. Amp. would ROTEL, NAD OR
BRYSTON fit the bill even with the Sub? Where can I buy the used stuff
from apart from eBa that I am aware of.
Anyways, I will shut up now and listen to your pearls of wisdom.

Hemendra

On Oct 19, 8:36 am, Bill Riel wrote:
In article om,
says...

Friends,
I have a friend who's selling me a set of PSB Image 5Ts and a PSB
Powered subwoofer.
My primary objective is listening music and not watching movies,
atleast not yet. Please advise me as to which Amplifier/Integrated
amplifier I need to buy. My budget is ~ $500/-
Also, how much of the audio quality will be sacrificed if I end up
buying a Receiver (as a last resort).As someone else has posted the speakers are fairly sensitive and I

believe they are pretty easy to drive so you've got quite a few choices.
An integrated could make a nice choice, but if you are going to use the
powered sub most don't have any bass management.

While I know they are not considered the last word in high fidelity, a
receiver might just fit your budget a bit better, and will likely allow
easier integration of the sub due to bass management capabilities. It's
also possible that you will find that you don't need the sub -- this
will depend on personal preferences and the type of music you listen to,
but those PSBs aren't too bad at the low end, and a poorly integrated
sub can be far worse than none at all imo.

otoh, there is always the used market. An integrated from NAD, Rotel or
Bryston would be a nice find.

--
Bill


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