[cello player dude]

Hey folks,

Let me start by saying this groups ROCKS!! I have learned lots by
reading previous post. There is a LOT of talent that roams through here
and the advice has been of great value to me.

Here is the current set up:
MK-012 x2
AT4050
Mackie VLZ 1202 PRO
Studio Projects VTB1
Marantz CDR300 CD recorder
Cool Edit Pro

I'm a pro classical cellist/teacher. I've done some semi-pro
recordings, mostly audition cds and on-site stuff. Overall I have been
pleased with the results I have gotten so far. However, I have $500
thats burning a hole in my pocket! So what's next? I am considering
buying a ribbon mic (beyerdynamic or nady?) Or upgrading the mic pres?
Or a new recorder?
Looking for a warm, fat, flat, articulate, present sound. Kinda like
the old Deutsche Gramophone recordings. I know this a really broad,
subjective question. By better to ask experts now, before spending
money. I appeciate your advice. Thanks, John Stuart-Cellist.

[Ray Thomas]

Keep the equipment, put your incendiary money towards new strings, or a new
bow, or hire of a top class room with great ambience. There, money neatly
disposed of already, and no new gear to show for it !Instead......experiment
with your placement in the room, and the mics placement around you....a lot
!!!
Ray

"cello player dude" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey folks,

Let me start by saying this groups ROCKS!! I have learned lots by
reading previous post. There is a LOT of talent that roams through here
and the advice has been of great value to me.

Here is the current set up:
MK-012 x2
AT4050
Mackie VLZ 1202 PRO
Studio Projects VTB1
Marantz CDR300 CD recorder
Cool Edit Pro

I'm a pro classical cellist/teacher. I've done some semi-pro
recordings, mostly audition cds and on-site stuff. Overall I have been
pleased with the results I have gotten so far. However, I have $500
thats burning a hole in my pocket! So what's next? I am considering
buying a ribbon mic (beyerdynamic or nady?) Or upgrading the mic pres?
Or a new recorder?
Looking for a warm, fat, flat, articulate, present sound. Kinda like
the old Deutsche Gramophone recordings. I know this a really broad,
subjective question. By better to ask experts now, before spending
money. I appeciate your advice. Thanks, John Stuart-Cellist.

[Mike Rivers]

cello player dude wrote:

pleased with the results I have gotten so far. However, I have $500
thats burning a hole in my pocket! So what's next? I am considering
buying a ribbon mic (beyerdynamic or nady?) Or upgrading the mic pres?
Or a new recorder?
Looking for a warm, fat, flat, articulate, present sound. Kinda like
the old Deutsche Gramophone recordings.

Find a nice room to record in and rent it for a session. That might
take most of your $500, but maybe not.

[Scott Dorsey]

cello player dude wrote:
Cool Edit Pro

I'm a pro classical cellist/teacher. I've done some semi-pro
recordings, mostly audition cds and on-site stuff. Overall I have been
pleased with the results I have gotten so far. However, I have $500
thats burning a hole in my pocket! So what's next? I am considering
buying a ribbon mic (beyerdynamic or nady?) Or upgrading the mic pres?
Or a new recorder?
Looking for a warm, fat, flat, articulate, present sound. Kinda like
the old Deutsche Gramophone recordings. I know this a really broad,
subjective question. By better to ask experts now, before spending
money. I appeciate your advice. Thanks, John Stuart-Cellist.

If you want to close-mike a cello and kill some of the scratchiness, I
would indeed recommend a Beyer M160 or M260 as being worth trying.

You may find you need to upgrade the mike preamps afterward, since these
mikes are pretty low output and very touchy about loading.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Danny T]

cello player dude wrote:
Hey folks,

Let me start by saying this groups ROCKS!! I have learned lots by
reading previous post. There is a LOT of talent that roams through here
and the advice has been of great value to me.

Here is the current set up:
MK-012 x2
AT4050
Mackie VLZ 1202 PRO
Studio Projects VTB1
Marantz CDR300 CD recorder
Cool Edit Pro

I'm a pro classical cellist/teacher. I've done some semi-pro
recordings, mostly audition cds and on-site stuff. Overall I have been
pleased with the results I have gotten so far. However, I have $500
thats burning a hole in my pocket! So what's next? I am considering
buying a ribbon mic (beyerdynamic or nady?) Or upgrading the mic pres?
Or a new recorder?
Looking for a warm, fat, flat, articulate, present sound. Kinda like
the old Deutsche Gramophone recordings. I know this a really broad,
subjective question. By better to ask experts now, before spending
money. I appeciate your advice. Thanks, John Stuart-Cellist.

that Oktava you have should do what you need. You instrument and the
room you play it in will make or break you.

If you are recording music to sell, you should save your $$$ for making
copies and selling what you make.

[cello player dude]

Thanks for the advice. I'm starting to see the light. A better cello
bow or great room would be an upgrade! Thanks for the reminder. If I
get a mic, the Beyer M160 would be the next.

All the Best, John..

Scott Dorsey wrote:
cello player dude wrote:
Cool Edit Pro

I'm a pro classical cellist/teacher. I've done some semi-pro
recordings, mostly audition cds and on-site stuff. Overall I have been
pleased with the results I have gotten so far. However, I have $500
thats burning a hole in my pocket! So what's next? I am considering
buying a ribbon mic (beyerdynamic or nady?) Or upgrading the mic pres?
Or a new recorder?
Looking for a warm, fat, flat, articulate, present sound. Kinda like
the old Deutsche Gramophone recordings. I know this a really broad,
subjective question. By better to ask experts now, before spending
money. I appeciate your advice. Thanks, John Stuart-Cellist.

If you want to close-mike a cello and kill some of the scratchiness, I
would indeed recommend a Beyer M160 or M260 as being worth trying.

You may find you need to upgrade the mike preamps afterward, since these
mikes are pretty low output and very touchy about loading.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[WillStG]

cello player dude wrote:
Hey folks,

Let me start by saying this groups ROCKS!! I have learned lots by
reading previous post. There is a LOT of talent that roams through here
and the advice has been of great value to me.

Here is the current set up:
MK-012 x2
AT4050
Mackie VLZ 1202 PRO
Studio Projects VTB1
Marantz CDR300 CD recorder
Cool Edit Pro

I'm a pro classical cellist/teacher. I've done some semi-pro
recordings, mostly audition cds and on-site stuff. Overall I have been
pleased with the results I have gotten so far. However, I have $500
thats burning a hole in my pocket! So what's next? I am considering
buying a ribbon mic (beyerdynamic or nady?) Or upgrading the mic pres?
Or a new recorder?
Looking for a warm, fat, flat, articulate, present sound. Kinda like
the old Deutsche Gramophone recordings. I know this a really broad,
subjective question. By better to ask experts now, before spending
money. I appeciate your advice. Thanks, John Stuart-Cellist.

Maybe an Aphex Compellor, which is a dynamic leveling device that
are going pretty cheap on ebay, around $300. The wide dynamic range
that Classical and some other acoustic music has often gets lost if you
play the recording in a car, or recording audio to video tape. The
Compellor is one of the most transparent ways I know to prepare
acoustic music for air. If you videotape performances or tape
recitals and find the audio getting buried in hiss, it's worth
consideration.

Will Miho
NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits