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Hello everyone,

I'm running a Pro Tools HD2 system using Digi's 192io. I have a sort
of long term lease on this studio, so I didn't make all the gear
decisions myself, and have been trying to overcome a few obstacles.

The problem that I am having now is that I have only two good preamps,
one Avalon 737sp and one Grace 201. My other pres are the Focusrites
that come in the Control 24 and a Presonus Digimax 96.

The Focusrite pres in the Control 24 are not great, but they don't
sound terrible to me, whereas the Presonus pres sound terrible on any
application. Unusable to my ears.

So I'd like to be able to use the 8 Focusrites from the Control 24 and
my one Avalon and 2 Graces when doing large sessions, but the problem
is that the 192io only has 8 analog ins. The rest of the ins, if one
wants to record more than 8 tracks simultaneously, are digital. Which
means, I really only have an 8 track recorder unless I want to use the
Presonus's crappy pres.

Is there a better box on the market that has multiple pres and digital
outs (and one that doesn't cost more than a grand)? Or would a better
master clock like the Big Ben possibly salvage something out of the
Presonus (I've heard that it also sprinkles some fairy dust on PT
recordings when used instead of the Digi 192io's internal clock). Or
would I be better off linking my Motu 828mkII to the 192io for it's
analog ins and running my Grace and Avalon through that (though I'd
hate to denigrate good pres with MOTU conversion.)

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Steve

[Mike Rivers]

wrote:

Is there a better box on the market that has multiple pres and digital
outs (and one that doesn't cost more than a grand)?

Like Mackie? The 800R is eight Onyx preamps in a box for under a grand.
Analog outputs plus AES/EBU or ADAT Optical with S/Mux implemented for
9 outputs on two connectors at 96 kHz, or 4 outputs at 192 kHz.

Or would a better
master clock like the Big Ben possibly salvage something out of the
Presonus

I don't think so. I doubt that whatever you don't like about the
Presonus isn't a clock jitter issue. Some people like 'em, some people
don't. Same with Mackie. Same with just about everything.

[Michael Wozniak]

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Hello everyone,

I'm running a Pro Tools HD2 system using Digi's 192io. I have a sort
of long term lease on this studio, so I didn't make all the gear
decisions myself, and have been trying to overcome a few obstacles.

The problem that I am having now is that I have only two good preamps,
one Avalon 737sp and one Grace 201. My other pres are the Focusrites
that come in the Control 24 and a Presonus Digimax 96.

The Focusrite pres in the Control 24 are not great, but they don't
sound terrible to me, whereas the Presonus pres sound terrible on any
application. Unusable to my ears.

So I'd like to be able to use the 8 Focusrites from the Control 24 and
my one Avalon and 2 Graces when doing large sessions, but the problem
is that the 192io only has 8 analog ins. The rest of the ins, if one
wants to record more than 8 tracks simultaneously, are digital. Which
means, I really only have an 8 track recorder unless I want to use the
Presonus's crappy pres.

I'm not familiar with your gear, but does the digimax have line ins? Can you
patch the Control24 pre outs to digimax line ins? Or does the C24 have
digital outs that you can feed to a digimax or 192 i/o digital in?

Mikey Wozniak
Nova Music Productions
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[Raw-Tracks]

wrote:

but the problem
is that the 192io only has 8 analog ins. The rest of the ins, if one
wants to record more than 8 tracks simultaneously, are digital.

The 192-i/o has an expansion slot on the back. You can get a card to
give you 8 more channels of a/d. That will help.

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[Ty Ford]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:44:51 -0400, wrote
(in article .com):

Hello everyone,

I'm running a Pro Tools HD2 system using Digi's 192io. I have a sort
of long term lease on this studio, so I didn't make all the gear
decisions myself, and have been trying to overcome a few obstacles.

The problem that I am having now is that I have only two good preamps,
one Avalon 737sp and one Grace 201. My other pres are the Focusrites
that come in the Control 24 and a Presonus Digimax 96.

The Focusrite pres in the Control 24 are not great, but they don't
sound terrible to me, whereas the Presonus pres sound terrible on any
application. Unusable to my ears.

So I'd like to be able to use the 8 Focusrites from the Control 24 and
my one Avalon and 2 Graces when doing large sessions, but the problem
is that the 192io only has 8 analog ins. The rest of the ins, if one
wants to record more than 8 tracks simultaneously, are digital. Which
means, I really only have an 8 track recorder unless I want to use the
Presonus's crappy pres.

Is there a better box on the market that has multiple pres and digital
outs (and one that doesn't cost more than a grand)? Or would a better
master clock like the Big Ben possibly salvage something out of the
Presonus (I've heard that it also sprinkles some fairy dust on PT
recordings when used instead of the Digi 192io's internal clock). Or
would I be better off linking my Motu 828mkII to the 192io for it's
analog ins and running my Grace and Avalon through that (though I'd
hate to denigrate good pres with MOTU conversion.)

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Steve


Aphex has a 2 and 8 channel digital rig. You could also use an RME ADI-8 DS
(or something later) if you have a lightpipe in. I don't think these work all
the way up at 192, but I may be wrong.

Regards,

Ty Ford


-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

[Ty Ford]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:18:20 -0400, Raw-Tracks wrote
(in article ) :

wrote:

but the problem
is that the 192io only has 8 analog ins. The rest of the ins, if one
wants to record more than 8 tracks simultaneously, are digital.

The 192-i/o has an expansion slot on the back. You can get a card to
give you 8 more channels of a/d. That will help.



There you go!

Ty

-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com