I don't shop Abercrombie & Fitch, but I was in one the other day with my
wife and heard some pretty impressive sound from the speakers they are
using in their stores.

Anyone know what brand & model these are? I would like to audition a set
that isn't in the store.

I have seen (heard) them in 3 different stores now, so I am guessing it is
chain-wide.

The system consists of 2 white satellites, each with a small green arrow
on them and the word "play" underneath. There is also a powered sub that
is concealed in the ceiling and is otherwise not visible aside from a red
power LED. Anyone know anything about these? Who makes them? What model
are they? Where can I find them to take a serious listen to?

Thanks!

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Shawn C Robak said:

I don't shop Abercrombie & Fitch, but I was in one the other day with my
wife and heard some pretty impressive sound from the speakers they are
using in their stores.

Anyone know what brand & model these are? I would like to audition a set
that isn't in the store.

I have seen (heard) them in 3 different stores now, so I am guessing it is
chain-wide.

The system consists of 2 white satellites, each with a small green arrow
on them and the word "play" underneath. There is also a powered sub that
is concealed in the ceiling and is otherwise not visible aside from a red
power LED. Anyone know anything about these? Who makes them? What model
are they? Where can I find them to take a serious listen to?

Thanks!

Don't listen to them, just buy them.
You'll get the sound you deserve.

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The Devil said:

On Wed, 19 May 2004 16:08:40 -0500, Shawn C Robak
wrote:

I don't shop Abercrombie & Fitch, but I was in one the other day with my
wife and heard some pretty impressive sound from the speakers they are
using in their stores.

You mean you were out with that ugly **** on your website? Juno or
something? Dog's name.

Anyone know what brand & model these are? I would like to audition a set
that isn't in the store.

Dogs stay outside and all that?

Thanks!

You're welcome!

I swear that Juana chick danced at my buddy's bachelor party a few years ago.
She'd sit naked on your face and wiggle around for two or three minutes for
twenty bucks. She had a bodyguard in the room with us, but God knows what he
was protecting her from, since she did everything that was asked of her.

Boon

The question is puzzler. What difference does it make who makes them? Do
you want to find a better price now that A&F has demonstrated them to you
and sold you on them, or do you want a home audition? A home audition is as
easy as buying them from A&F and taking them home for your audition. If
they are unsatisfactory return them for a refund.

Wylie Williams




"Shawn C Robak" wrote in message
...
I don't shop Abercrombie & Fitch, but I was in one the other day with my
wife and heard some pretty impressive sound from the speakers they are
using in their stores.

Anyone know what brand & model these are? I would like to audition a set
that isn't in the store.

I have seen (heard) them in 3 different stores now, so I am guessing it is
chain-wide.

The system consists of 2 white satellites, each with a small green arrow
on them and the word "play" underneath. There is also a powered sub that
is concealed in the ceiling and is otherwise not visible aside from a red
power LED. Anyone know anything about these? Who makes them? What model
are they? Where can I find them to take a serious listen to?

Thanks!

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Shawn C Robak said:

On Thu, 21 May 2004, Marc Phillips wrote:

I swear that Juana chick danced at my buddy's bachelor party a few years
ago.
She'd sit naked on your face and wiggle around for two or three minutes for
twenty bucks.

Good money in stripping for guys(hah) who couldn't get laid in a club
where X was served in every, what can I say? Desperate boys will fork over
the cash for a hot piece of ass.

What "club" are you talking about?


She had a bodyguard in the room with us, but God knows what he
was protecting her from, since she did everything that was asked of her.

That would have been me... just in case one of you children confused your
money with your dick. Everything that was asked? Heh... not quite,
according to the tape.

So you can't read, and you can't write. I guess we shouldn't hold our breath
waiting for you to dismantle this newsgroup like you promised, eh, geek?

Boon

On Thu, 27 May 2004, S888Wheel wrote:

I don't have to go to A&F to know that the sound isn't to my liking. It is
extremely unlikey you will get anything close to high end sound with the
background sound system in a clothing store. It doesn't even matter what the
equipment is. The set up pretty much has to be grossly degraded.
I understand that the PA system at Pet Co might be worth an audition.

Shows you what you know. After some research, it turns out it is Tannoy
and Biamp gear. Nah, that isn't decent gear at all.

Like I said - the sound was good enough to pique my interest to the point
where I would want to listen to them in an environment OTHER than in their
store. But - if you had been paying attention, you would already know that
part, and not go rambling on above about stuff that was never talked
about.


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On Thu, 28 May 2004, Marc Phillips wrote:

What "club" are you talking about?

ROFL - what clubs AREN'T I talking about would be a shorter list,
numbskull. Talk about being out of touch...

So you can't read, and you can't write. I guess we shouldn't hold our breath
waiting for you to dismantle this newsgroup like you promised, eh, geek?

Reading and writing is just fine on this end - looks like comprehension
isn't on your end however. Dismantling? I guess you haven't noticed, but
there have been over a hundred control messages sent to the news servers
canceling the off-topic stuff... that would be why so many of your
messages are not showing up on thousands of news servers around the world.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 08:58:41 -0500, Shawn C Robak
wrote:

On Thu, 28 May 2004, Marc Phillips wrote:

What "club" are you talking about?

ROFL - what clubs AREN'T I talking about would be a shorter list,
numbskull. Talk about being out of touch...

So you can't read, and you can't write. I guess we shouldn't hold our breath
waiting for you to dismantle this newsgroup like you promised, eh, geek?

Reading and writing is just fine on this end - looks like comprehension
isn't on your end however. Dismantling? I guess you haven't noticed, but
there have been over a hundred control messages sent to the news servers
canceling the off-topic stuff... that would be why so many of your
messages are not showing up on thousands of news servers around the world.

No problems reading Marc's posts on *this* news server.

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On 27 May 2004 20:22:36 GMT, (S888Wheel) wrote:

From: Shawn C Robak
Date: 5/27/2004 12:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

On Thu, 27 May 2004, S888Wheel wrote:

You might want to audition the speakers they have in the elevators at
Sears.

Just go to an A&F and take a listen before you continue to spout off.


I don't have to go to A&F to know that the sound isn't to my liking. It is
extremely unlikey you will get anything close to high end sound with the
background sound system in a clothing store. It doesn't even matter what the
equipment is. The set up pretty much has to be grossly degraded.
I understand that the PA system at Pet Co might be worth an audition.

Actually, I think that those diffusion racks that A&F uses are great,
although the 46Ls are better than the 40R, from what I've heard.

On Thu, 27 May 2004 13:20:13 -0500, Shawn C Robak
wrote:


Wow, aren't you cool?

You are going to have to try harder than that.

Dogs name? ROFL. If you only knew the actual history and culture behind
the name - you mono-cultural, uneducated, pole-smoker.

****ing New Zealanders.

Yeah, they completely ruined the Oscars this year...

....although what New Zealanders have to do with this is beyond me.
Everyone knows that The Devil is British. Just ask any Indian
(Bombay-type that is).

Good luck on your clothing store audio buying adventures.

On Thu, 20 May 2004, The
Devil wrote:

On Wed, 19 May 2004 16:08:40 -0500, Shawn C Robak
wrote:

I don't shop Abercrombie & Fitch, but I was in one the other day with my
wife and heard some pretty impressive sound from the speakers they are
using in their stores.

You mean you were out with that ugly **** on your website? Juno or
something? Dog's name.

Anyone know what brand & model these are? I would like to audition a set
that isn't in the store.

Dogs stay outside and all that?

Thanks!

You're welcome!

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Shawn C Robak said:

Shows you what you know. After some research, it turns out it is Tannoy
and Biamp gear. Nah, that isn't decent gear at all.

I'm not familiar with Biamp gear, unless you're talking about the
*technology* of Bi-amping.
Tannoy isn't what it used to be, however.

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George M. Middius said:

Tannoy isn't what it used to be, however.

Is a company damned for putting their surplus on ubid.com?

That, too.
Plus their monstrous sound and hideous looks, note.

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In article ,
dave weil wrote:

Good luck on your clothing store audio buying adventures.

Restaurant men's rooms are good for evaluating in-ceiling speakers. I've
been known to excuse myself from the table to "go where the Muzak's
loud."

Stephen

George M. Middius said:

Hideous? To me they look bland, just another face in the crowd. Which
ones appal you?

The Sixes series, for instance.
Though they're about 10 years old, now.

If you want to go into the "monstrous" part, that would be interesting.
It's been a while since I heard any. I recall a single-driver bookshelf
type. It had typical English sound, mellow and laid back. Probably long
discontinued though.

Especially the ones with the "coaxial driver" sound horrible when
listening slightly off-axis.
But not as horrible as when in the sweet spot. They'll sand-blast your
ears off.
I've seen this driver in almost every Tannoy product I've encountered.

Now, the old Monitor Reds, that's a different story. Ugly as hell, but
very pleasing sound. And LOUD!
I've heard these in a studio some years back, they were driven by
QUAD II tube amps. My ears still ring.

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Shawn C Robak said:

On Thu, 28 May 2004, Marc Phillips wrote:

What "club" are you talking about?

ROFL - what clubs AREN'T I talking about would be a shorter list,
numbskull. Talk about being out of touch...

I never mentioned a club. You did. Now you're being cryptic because you
realized you ****ed up. That's why you snipped the beginning of this post.


So you can't read, and you can't write. I guess we shouldn't hold our
breath
waiting for you to dismantle this newsgroup like you promised, eh, geek?

Reading and writing is just fine on this end - looks like comprehension
isn't on your end however.

Nope. I mentioned a bachelor party, and you started talking about clubs. This
bachelor party was at a residence. I'm sure that like most Internet geeks,
you'd be unwilling to admit your error.


Dismantling? I guess you haven't noticed, but
there have been over a hundred control messages sent to the news servers
canceling the off-topic stuff... that would be why so many of your
messages are not showing up on thousands of news servers around the world.

Actually, I recently did a search on something RAO-related, and I noticed a lot
more hits from servers other than Usenet.

You do know the definition of an Internet geek, don't you? It's someone who
thinks that they're much more important on the Internet than in real life.
That means you, Chuckles!

Boon

Sander said:

Shawn C Robak said:

Shows you what you know. After some research, it turns out it is Tannoy
and Biamp gear. Nah, that isn't decent gear at all.

I'm not familiar with Biamp gear, unless you're talking about the
*technology* of Bi-amping.
Tannoy isn't what it used to be, however.

That's kind of funny, since for the first time in my life I'm actually becoming
interested in Tannoy. Of course I'm talking about the Prestige Series, such as
the Westminster Royal, GRF Memory HE, Stirling, and the one I just heard and
enjoyed, the Turnberry HE. Now that I've gotten into vintage tube amps, Tannoy
seems to be an interesting option.

Boon

Mr. Middius said:

Sander deWaal said:

Hideous? To me they look bland, just another face in the crowd. Which
ones appal you?

The Sixes series, for instance.
Though they're about 10 years old, now.

Not on Tannoy's site. I guess they died a merciful death.


If you want to go into the "monstrous" part, that would be interesting.
It's been a while since I heard any. I recall a single-driver bookshelf
type. It had typical English sound, mellow and laid back. Probably long
discontinued though.

Especially the ones with the "coaxial driver" sound horrible when
listening slightly off-axis.
But not as horrible as when in the sweet spot. They'll sand-blast your
ears off.

Your opinion on this matter has a distinct tinge of the minority.

I've seen this driver in almost every Tannoy product I've encountered.

Now, the old Monitor Reds, that's a different story. Ugly as hell, but
very pleasing sound. And LOUD!
I've heard these in a studio some years back, they were driven by
QUAD II tube amps. My ears still ring.

Stick with a good thing, and may the Force be with you.

Here's one that definitely isn't just a face in the crowd:

http://www.audiophile.com.au/tnny_sp..._wstmnstr.html

Boon

In article ,
(Marc Phillips) wrote:

Sander said:

Shawn C Robak said:

Shows you what you know. After some research, it turns out it is Tannoy
and Biamp gear. Nah, that isn't decent gear at all.

I'm not familiar with Biamp gear, unless you're talking about the
*technology* of Bi-amping.

It's pro audio:

http://www.biamp.com/

Stephen

On Fri, 28 May 2004, dave weil wrote:

No problems reading Marc's posts on *this* news server.

So you read it prior to the control message canceling it. Check it now
and I bet it won't be there.

Usenet is still pretty pokey, unfortunately, with an average global
circulation taking up to 2.5 days.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004, dave weil wrote:

Actually, I think that those diffusion racks that A&F uses are great,
although the 46Ls are better than the 40R, from what I've heard.

For your fat ass, yes.


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On Fri, 28 May 2004, dave weil wrote:

****ing New Zealanders.

...although what New Zealanders have to do with this is beyond me.
Everyone knows that The Devil is British.

Well, not only does not everyone know, but not everyone really cares
either what his cultural background is.

He is posting from New Zealand however, so one would dare to guess that he
is a New Zealanders.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004, Sander deWaal wrote:

I'm not familiar with Biamp gear, unless you're talking about the
*technology* of Bi-amping.
Tannoy isn't what it used to be, however.

Wow. And this is supposed to be the mecca of expert audio opinion?
AAAAAAHAHAHAHA!

If you don't know about the equipment that Biamp has been putting out for
eons, then you have certainly been out of the loop.

As for Tannoy not being what it used to be - you are right. They are far
better and more well respected.

I can see that posting to this newsgroup asking for input and feedback on
quality audio was a COMPLETE waste of time. What a bunch of clueless
idiots.

Enjoy your political bickering - I'm going someplace where the community
knows something about high-end audio, and where they can stay on topic.


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From: Shawn C Robak
Date: 5/29/2004 8:33 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


On Fri, 28 May 2004, dave weil wrote:

No problems reading Marc's posts on *this* news server.

So you read it prior to the control message canceling it. Check it now
and I bet it won't be there.

Usenet is still pretty pokey, unfortunately, with an average global
circulation taking up to 2.5 days.

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Nothing is missing as far as I can see. Not even your nonaudio related
messages. I understand there are some interesting PA speakers here at the local
Metrorail station you might want to check out. I know it's a long trip for you
but hey, you might like them.

On Fri, 28 May 2004, Sander deWaal wrote:

Plus their monstrous sound and hideous looks, note.

Monsterous sound is good.

As for looks - who cares WHAT a speaker looks like so long as it sounds
right?

You sond like a 16 year old girl - "I don't want those speakers - they
look hideous!"

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On Fri, 28 May 2004, George M. Middius wrote:

Hideous? To me they look bland, just another face in the crowd. Which
ones appal you?

Again, who cares what speakers look like? They aren't there to be looked
at. They are there to be HEARD.

Thought you people had a clue or three about audio - nevermind "high-end".

If you want to go into the "monstrous" part, that would be interesting.
It's been a while since I heard any.

Go to your local A&F and take a listen. The i5 coupled with the sub is
quite impacting.


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On Fri, 28 May 2004, Sander deWaal wrote:

Now, the old Monitor Reds, that's a different story. Ugly as hell, but
very pleasing sound. And LOUD!

But looks matter too much, so I guess you don't like them, regardless how
they sound, right? ROFL.


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On Fri, 28 May 2004, Marc Phillips wrote:

I never mentioned a club. You did. Now you're being cryptic because you
realized you ****ed up. That's why you snipped the beginning of this post.

I didn't **** up. YOU didn't read. Go back and read the original message I
posted where I said that dorks like you have to PAY for a piece of ass
because if they were in a club (any ****ing club) where X was served in
the drinks, they STILL couldn't get any action. It's called an example you
dimwit. Learn to read a post in it's entirety and give it a little
comprehension.

Pay attention.


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On Fri, 28 May 2004, Marc Phillips wrote:

That's kind of funny, since for the first time in my life I'm actually
becoming interested in Tannoy. Of course I'm talking about the Prestige
Series, such as the Westminster Royal, GRF Memory HE, Stirling, and the
one I just heard and enjoyed, the Turnberry HE. Now that I've gotten
into vintage tube amps, Tannoy seems to be an interesting option.

Take a listen to the i5 coupled with a sub.

Amazingly enough, that's what A&F is using.
But it can't possibly be of any quality, now can it?

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On Sat, 29 May 2004 10:33:10 -0500, Shawn C Robak
wrote:

On Fri, 28 May 2004, dave weil wrote:

No problems reading Marc's posts on *this* news server.

So you read it prior to the control message canceling it. Check it now
and I bet it won't be there.

Usenet is still pretty pokey, unfortunately, with an average global
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On Thu, 21 May 2004, Marc Phillips wrote:

I swear that Juana chick danced at my buddy's bachelor party a few years
ago.
She'd sit naked on your face and wiggle around for two or three minutes for
twenty bucks.

Good money in stripping for guys(hah) who couldn't get laid in a club
where X was served in every, what can I say? Desperate boys will fork over
the cash for a hot piece of ass.

What "club" are you talking about?


She had a bodyguard in the room with us, but God knows what he
was protecting her from, since she did everything that was asked of her.

That would have been me... just in case one of you children confused your
money with your dick. Everything that was asked? Heh... not quite,
according to the tape.

So you can't read, and you can't write. I guess we shouldn't hold our
breath
waiting for you to dismantle this newsgroup like you promised, eh,
geek?

Boon
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Sorry, you lose.

On Sat, 29 May 2004 10:33:33 -0500, Shawn C Robak
wrote:

On Fri, 28 May 2004, dave weil wrote:

Actually, I think that those diffusion racks that A&F uses are great,
although the 46Ls are better than the 40R, from what I've heard.

For your fat ass, yes.

Oh dear, looks like I need to have this abusive message cancelled.

chuckle

I love it when these one week wonders wander in here. No sense of
humor; arch, self-righteous pricks, almost to a man. You're no
exception, you know.

On Sat, 29 May 2004 10:35:51 -0500, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

On Fri, 28 May 2004, dave weil wrote:

****ing New Zealanders.

...although what New Zealanders have to do with this is beyond me.
Everyone knows that The Devil is British.

Well, not only does not everyone know, but not everyone really cares
either what his cultural background is.

Only when you get it wrong, I suppose.

He is posting from New Zealand however, so one would dare to guess that he
is a New Zealanders.

You really aren't very bright, are you? No wonder IU doesn't claim
you.

*I* can post *through* NZ quite easily, but that doesn't mean that
Nashville is New Zealand and that I'm posting from there. In fact, I
hd a NZ friend who used to post from Texas. Guess what? She lived
there at the time. Now, her Texas husband posts from New Zealand,
since they now LIVE THERE. That doesn't make him New Zealand, you
know.

You dare not guess about *anything*, I'm afraid. You've already made a
muck of your rep, and posting your homepage doesn't exactly peg you as
a computer superman. Here's a hint - you might want to update it more
often than every millennium.

Oh wait, you've got an ICQ# and a domain. You *must* know
*everything*.

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On Sat, 29 May 2004 10:39:24 -0500, Shawn C Robak
wrote:

On Fri, 28 May 2004, Sander deWaal wrote:

I'm not familiar with Biamp gear, unless you're talking about the
*technology* of Bi-amping.
Tannoy isn't what it used to be, however.

Wow. And this is supposed to be the mecca of expert audio opinion?

No. That was your FIRST mistake.

It's just an opinion USENET unmoderated newsgroup.

First there's the first word - opinion.
Second word - USENET (is it starting to sink in now?
Third word - unmoderated. Uh oh, the picture is coming into focus.
And now the slamdunk - the fourth word - newsgroup.

Time for you to go hang out in the student union and troll for
underage drinkers.

On Sat, 29 May 2004 10:39:24 -0500, Shawn C Robak
wrote:

I can see that posting to this newsgroup asking for input and feedback on
quality audio was a COMPLETE waste of time. What a bunch of clueless
idiots.

I hope that this is your exit statement. But something tells me it
isn't.

And this is choice, coming from someone who shops for audio gear in a
clothing store frequented by yuppies.

On Sat, 29 May 2004 10:41:01 -0500, Shawn C Robak
wrote:

Plus their monstrous sound and hideous looks, note.

Monsterous sound is good.

You're a university cat, right?

Let's all pray for the future of our youth...

Or are you bragging about another brand that's "been around for eons"?

On Sat, 29 May 2004 10:50:09 -0500, Shawn C Robak
wrote:

On Fri, 28 May 2004, Marc Phillips wrote:

That's kind of funny, since for the first time in my life I'm actually
becoming interested in Tannoy. Of course I'm talking about the Prestige
Series, such as the Westminster Royal, GRF Memory HE, Stirling, and the
one I just heard and enjoyed, the Turnberry HE. Now that I've gotten
into vintage tube amps, Tannoy seems to be an interesting option.

Take a listen to the i5 coupled with a sub.

Amazingly enough, that's what A&F is using.
But it can't possibly be of any quality, now can it?

Plus you can **** all over them and they'll never miss a beat, since
they're "indoor/outdoor" speakers.

Why not just get a "rock" speaker like they sell for gardens and get
it over with?

Lionel said:

So I guess that you would love my futur Horn Fostex FE208-ESigma.
I'm sure that with a litle reinforcement in high fz, they are the ideal
"Jazz-combo" speaker. )

I've a friend who is mad about Lowther Horns.
If they're anywhere comparable to the Fostex horns, it's not my kind
of speaker.
Dynamic as hell, yes, but fatigueing to my ears in the long run.

Anyway, it's fun to build your own stuff, isn't it?

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

George M. Middius said:

Your opinion on this matter has a distinct tinge of the minority.

Well, I have Magnepans. 'nuff said.

Stick with a good thing, and may the Force be with you.

One gets the audio system one deserves. Karma and all that jazz.

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

(Marc Phillips) said:

That's kind of funny, since for the first time in my life I'm actually becoming
interested in Tannoy. Of course I'm talking about the Prestige Series, such as
the Westminster Royal, GRF Memory HE, Stirling, and the one I just heard and
enjoyed, the Turnberry HE. Now that I've gotten into vintage tube amps, Tannoy
seems to be an interesting option.

Every now and then, Monitors Red and Golden are offered on Ebay and
associated sites.
If ever you have the possibility, go listen to them, preferably driven
by triode amps.

They're nothing like your Spendors, btw :-)

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

On Sat, 29 May 2004 11:06:07 -0500, dave weil
wrote:

*I* can post *through* NZ quite easily, but that doesn't mean that
Nashville is New Zealand and that I'm posting from there. In fact, I
hd a NZ friend who used to post from Texas. Guess what? She lived
there at the time. Now, her Texas husband posts from New Zealand,
since they now LIVE THERE. That doesn't make him New Zealand, you
know

Or "a new Zealander" either chuckle. He's too small to be either
island.

Dave Weil wrote:


On Sat, 29 May 2004 10:33:33 -0500, Shawn C Robak
wrote:

On Fri, 28 May 2004, dave weil wrote:

Actually, I think that those diffusion racks that A&F uses are great,
although the 46Ls are better than the 40R, from what I've heard.

For your fat ass, yes.

Oh dear, looks like I need to have this abusive message cancelled.

chuckle

I love it when these one week wonders wander in here. No sense of
humor; arch, self-righteous pricks, almost to a man. You're no
exception, you know.








Agreed. This pompous boob appears to be suffering from cephalic/anal
inversion. That's my "diagnosis" - lol.



Bruce J. Richman