[cec cec]

Hi

could you please tell me what kind of budget hi-fi (cd, amp, columns)
can one buy for, say, around 700 Euros? It is for a squared living room
(7x7 m) with three walls and an half, two windows, two sofas and wood
forniture, and, preferably, to ear classical music.

The alternatives I'm aware a
- Bose Wave system
- Tivoli Audio
- CD and Amp from Cambridge Audio with Visonik Revo 2 columns

Any suggestion is welcome!

Thanks

CEC

[Eeyore]

cec cec wrote:

Hi

could you please tell me what kind of budget hi-fi (cd, amp, columns)
can one buy for, say, around 700 Euros? It is for a squared living room
(7x7 m) with three walls and an half, two windows, two sofas and wood
forniture, and, preferably, to ear classical music.

The alternatives I'm aware a
- Bose Wave system

Uterly dreadul - and I'm not kidding. The triumph of advertising over common
sense and some ppl even believe that's what hi-fi is meant to sound like too !


- Tivoli Audio

Not familiar with them.


- CD and Amp from Cambridge Audio with Visonik Revo 2 columns

Probably an excellent economical choice.

This link will give you a fair idea of the right kind of gear to buy on a modest
budget.
http://www.richersounds.com/productg...HI-FISEPARATES

Graham

[Eeyore]

cec cec wrote:

Hi

could you please tell me what kind of budget hi-fi (cd, amp, columns)
can one buy for, say, around 700 Euros? It is for a squared living room
(7x7 m) with three walls and an half, two windows, two sofas and wood
forniture, and, preferably, to ear classical music.

The alternatives I'm aware a
- Bose Wave system
- Tivoli Audio
- CD and Amp from Cambridge Audio with Visonik Revo 2 columns

Any suggestion is welcome!

I forgot to say, You can get a competent amp and CD player for half your budget.

That leaves the other half for speakers and this is where spending abit more
makes big differences.

Do *not* under *any* circumstances waste any money on 'high-end interconnects'
like hyped-up speaker cable and silver/gold plated doo-dahs. It's an out and out
con trick played by the industry.

Graham

[[email protected]]

Eeyore wrote:

I forgot to say, You can get a competent amp and CD player for half your budget.

That leaves the other half for speakers and this is where spending abit more
makes big differences.

I agree - in that price range, I'd probably look to buy a used
integrated amp or receiver (I have an old NAD 7225PE receiver which
sounds pretty good for what I paid for it (used) ages ago, and you can
probably find one for less than $100 now. I don't know CD players
particularly well, but I have a Sony 5-CD carousel changer that also
plays SACD's, and it only cost about $150.

If I've got my conversions right, that ought to leave you about 500
euros for speakers.

Bill

[Eeyore]

wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

I forgot to say, You can get a competent amp and CD player for half your budget.

That leaves the other half for speakers and this is where spending abit more
makes big differences.

I agree - in that price range, I'd probably look to buy a used
integrated amp or receiver (I have an old NAD 7225PE receiver which
sounds pretty good for what I paid for it (used) ages ago, and you can
probably find one for less than $100 now.

NAD stuff has always generally been pretty decent. I nearly worked for them once btw !



I don't know CD players
particularly well, but I have a Sony 5-CD carousel changer that also
plays SACD's, and it only cost about $150.

I'd avoid carousel changers as there's more to go wrong.

Even a 'basic' CD payer these days is very good. You might want to consider using a
DVD player actually to perform a dual role.

Graham

[[email protected]]

Eeyore wrote:

I'd avoid carousel changers as there's more to go wrong.

That's what I've always read, and it may be true - but I've had three
carousel players and have never had any trouble with them. I've had
much worse luck with single CD players.

Even a 'basic' CD payer these days is very good. You might want to consider using a
DVD player actually to perform a dual role.

A good thought!

Bill

[cec cec]

Dear all,
thanks for your helpful comments!

I started looking on the web for hifi components (which seems better
than buying a system)
and I found this:
DENON PMA 495 for 159 Euros
Denon DCD-485 for 169 Euros.

Do you think that they are worth?
And about columns?
Is Visonik REVO 2 any good?

CEC

[Eeyore]

cec cec wrote:

Dear all,
thanks for your helpful comments!

I started looking on the web for hifi components (which seems better
than buying a system)
and I found this:
DENON PMA 495 for 159 Euros
Denon DCD-485 for 169 Euros.

Do you think that they are worth?

You rarely go far wrong with Denon to be honest.


And about columns?
Is Visonik REVO 2 any good?

I'm not familiar with that one. I've heard good things about the brand though.

Graham

[George M. Middius]

Poopie tries to scare somebody.

NAD stuff has always generally been pretty decent. I nearly worked for them once btw !

But just in time, the HR manager checked your "references". Whew!




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Poopie tries to scare somebody.

NAD stuff has always generally been pretty decent. I nearly worked for them once btw !

But just in time, the HR manager checked your "references". Whew!

Actually, it's because I wanted to continue in a self-employed role whereas they wanted a
full-timer. The job was totally 'in the bag'.

Graham

[George M. Middius]

Poopie Donkey admits the truth about his skills in the world of business.

Poopie tries to scare somebody.

NAD stuff has always generally been pretty decent. I nearly worked for them once btw !

But just in time, the HR manager checked your "references". Whew!

Actually, it's because I wanted to continue in a self-employed role whereas they wanted a
full-timer.

Of course. Who could blame them.

I was totally 'in the bag'.

No surprise there.




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

"George M. Middius" wrote:

LIES

[Peter Wieck]

George M. Middius drooled:

Its typical whining, puling, silly, stupid tripe.

Now, which is it that bothers you more, Mr. Middius: That Mr.
Jute-McCoy's fingers are so far
up your fundament that you can taste them at the back of your throat?
Or that you are only its second-favorite sock-puppet?

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[jeffc]

"cec cec" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi

could you please tell me what kind of budget hi-fi (cd, amp, columns)
can one buy for, say, around 700 Euros? It is for a squared living room
(7x7 m) with three walls and an half, two windows, two sofas and wood
forniture, and, preferably, to ear classical music.

The most recent edition of The Absolute Sound has recommendations for low
budget "high end" complete systems. You can probably also download it from
their web site for $3, which is their fee last I checked.

[Eeyore]

jeffc wrote:

"cec cec" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi

could you please tell me what kind of budget hi-fi (cd, amp, columns)
can one buy for, say, around 700 Euros? It is for a squared living room
(7x7 m) with three walls and an half, two windows, two sofas and wood
forniture, and, preferably, to ear classical music.

The most recent edition of The Absolute Sound has recommendations for low
budget "high end" complete systems. You can probably also download it from
their web site for $3, which is their fee last I checked.

I wouldn't trust any publication which talks of electronics
having......spaciousness and three-dimensionality

Graham

[George M. Middius]

PoopieBorg shat:

The most recent edition of The Absolute Sound

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

Goodness, yes, Poopie. Subjective impressions and emotional responses are
completely irrelevant when it comes to music. Thank the lord for
digitization of recordings -- now a 'borg can proove™ that everything
sounds the same.





--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Osama bin Fuktar]

"Eeyore" wrote in
message ...
[snip]

This link will give you a fair idea of the right kind of gear to buy on a
modest
budget.
http://www.richersounds.com/productg...HI-FISEPARATES

Graham

Music is forbidden.

[Eeyore]

"George M. Middius" wrote:

PoopieBorg shat:

The most recent edition of The Absolute Sound

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

What's with the [sic] btw ?


Goodness, yes, Poopie. Subjective impressions and emotional responses are
completely irrelevant when it comes to music. Thank the lord for
digitization of recordings -- now a 'borg can proove™ that everything
sounds the same.

I leave the subjective for my personal response to music, not technical evaluations. You can have
an awesome response to music from even the lowest-fi equipment btw ( hence why tubies get so
excited ) !

It's a fool's paradise to imagine that technology will make the music more involving than it
already was.

Graham

[paul packer]

On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:49:48 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



"George M. Middius" wrote:

PoopieBorg shat:

The most recent edition of The Absolute Sound

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

What's with the [sic] btw ?

I've been wondering the same thing, but George refuses to tell us. I
think he has access to a "Correct English" book that lists errors the
rest of us have never heard of. Either that or he gets a charge out of
writing (sic).

[Eeyore]

paul packer wrote:

On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:49:48 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:

"George M. Middius" wrote:

PoopieBorg shat:

The most recent edition of The Absolute Sound

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

What's with the [sic] btw ?

I've been wondering the same thing, but George refuses to tell us. I
think he has access to a "Correct English" book that lists errors the
rest of us have never heard of. Either that or he gets a charge out of
writing (sic).

Either that or he simply can't spell for tuppence / twopence.

Graham

[George M. Middius]

paul packer said:

PoopieBorg shat:

The most recent edition of The Absolute Sound

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

What's with the [sic] btw ?

I've been wondering the same thing, but George refuses to tell us.

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

think he has access to a "Correct English" book that lists errors the
rest of us have never heard of. Either that or he gets a charge out of
writing (sic)[sic].

When you insert the notation [sic] ot indicate an error in the original
poster's post, you should enclose it in square brackets. Don't they teach
you anything in religious school?




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[MINe 109]

In article . com,
"cec cec" wrote:

Hi

could you please tell me what kind of budget hi-fi (cd, amp, columns)
can one buy for, say, around 700 Euros? It is for a squared living room
(7x7 m) with three walls and an half, two windows, two sofas and wood
forniture, and, preferably, to ear classical music.

The alternatives I'm aware a
- Bose Wave system
- Tivoli Audio
- CD and Amp from Cambridge Audio with Visonik Revo 2 columns

Any suggestion is welcome!

Nad C320 integrated amp, Sony ES universal player, and your favorite
speakers.

I don't know British bargain speakers. In the US, I'd recommend
Infinity, Paradigm, and PSB.

Stephen

[Eeyore]

MINe 109 wrote:

In article . com,
"cec cec" wrote:

Hi

could you please tell me what kind of budget hi-fi (cd, amp, columns)
can one buy for, say, around 700 Euros? It is for a squared living room
(7x7 m) with three walls and an half, two windows, two sofas and wood
forniture, and, preferably, to ear classical music.

The alternatives I'm aware a
- Bose Wave system
- Tivoli Audio
- CD and Amp from Cambridge Audio with Visonik Revo 2 columns

Any suggestion is welcome!

Nad C320 integrated amp, Sony ES universal player, and your favorite
speakers.

I don't know British bargain speakers. In the US, I'd recommend
Infinity, Paradigm, and PSB.

He appears to be posting from Portugal as it happens. However the same products
ought to be widely available throughout the EU.

Graham

[Eeyore]

"George M. Middius" wrote:

paul packer said:

PoopieBorg shat:

The most recent edition of The Absolute Sound

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

What's with the [sic] btw ?

I've been wondering the same thing, but George refuses to tell us.

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

think he has access to a "Correct English" book that lists errors the
rest of us have never heard of. Either that or he gets a charge out of
writing (sic)[sic].

When you insert the notation [sic] ot indicate an error in the original
poster's post, you should enclose it in square brackets. Don't they teach
you anything in religious school?

There was no error to correct.

Graham

[George M. Middius]

Doofus the Donkey dorked:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

There was no error to correct.

You made two errors, you uneducated donkey. One for each [sic].





--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Doofus the Donkey dorked:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

There was no error to correct.

You made two errors, you uneducated donkey. One for each [sic].

No I didn't !

You're just an attention slut aren't you ?

Graham

[Osama bin Fuktar]

"Eeyore" wrote in
message ...


"George M. Middius" wrote:

Doofus the Donkey dorked:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of
electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

There was no error to correct.

You made two errors, you uneducated donkey. One for each [sic].

No I didn't !

You're just an attention slut aren't you ?

Graham

Where I come from, we eat donkeys.

[George M. Middius]

Doofus the Donkey dorked:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

There was no error to correct.

You made two errors, you uneducated donkey. One for each [sic].

No I didn't !

Yes you did! I marked them both with [sic]s! You can see where they are!

You're just an attention slut aren't you ?

Bad diagnosis, Poopie. I'm more of a nitpicker or compulsive critic. But
unlike you, when I open my mouth to voice a criticism, I make sure I'm in
the right.

Two errors, Poophead. I pinpointed them unambiguously. You are either too
stupid to even know what I'm talking about or too egomaniacal to entertain
the possibility you've made a fool of yourself.




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[MINe 109]

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

In article . com,
"cec cec" wrote:

Hi

could you please tell me what kind of budget hi-fi (cd, amp, columns)
can one buy for, say, around 700 Euros? It is for a squared living room
(7x7 m) with three walls and an half, two windows, two sofas and wood
forniture, and, preferably, to ear classical music.

The alternatives I'm aware a
- Bose Wave system
- Tivoli Audio
- CD and Amp from Cambridge Audio with Visonik Revo 2 columns

Any suggestion is welcome!

Nad C320 integrated amp, Sony ES universal player, and your favorite
speakers.

I don't know British bargain speakers. In the US, I'd recommend
Infinity, Paradigm, and PSB.

He appears to be posting from Portugal as it happens. However the same
products
ought to be widely available throughout the EU.

Iberian hifi? Maybe French speakers would be easier to find.

Stephen

[paul packer]

On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:49:08 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



Doofus the Donkey dorked:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

There was no error to correct.

You made two errors, you uneducated donkey. One for each [sic].

No I didn't !

Yes you did! I marked them both with [sic]s! You can see where they are!

You're just an attention slut aren't you ?

Bad diagnosis, Poopie. I'm more of a nitpicker or compulsive critic. But
unlike you, when I open my mouth to voice a criticism, I make sure I'm in
the right.

Two errors, Poophead. I pinpointed them unambiguously. You are either too
stupid to even know what I'm talking about or too egomaniacal to entertain
the possibility you've made a fool of yourself.

Well, I don't know if Graham can spot them, but I can't. And I'd bet
no one else on this NG can either.

[Eeyore]

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Doofus the Donkey dorked:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

There was no error to correct.

You made two errors, you uneducated donkey. One for each [sic].

No I didn't !

Yes you did! I marked them both with [sic]s! You can see where they are!

So, you're wrong !

[Ro]

Check out this link... http://www.laventure.net/tourist/good_sound2.htm

Speakers, Kef are good, vintage amp, try a Sugden...



"cec cec" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi

could you please tell me what kind of budget hi-fi (cd, amp, columns)
can one buy for, say, around 700 Euros? It is for a squared living room
(7x7 m) with three walls and an half, two windows, two sofas and wood
forniture, and, preferably, to ear classical music.

The alternatives I'm aware a
- Bose Wave system
- Tivoli Audio
- CD and Amp from Cambridge Audio with Visonik Revo 2 columns

Any suggestion is welcome!

Thanks

CEC

[Harry Lavo]

"paul packer" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:49:08 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



Doofus the Donkey dorked:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of
electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

There was no error to correct.

You made two errors, you uneducated donkey. One for each [sic].

No I didn't !

Yes you did! I marked them both with [sic]s! You can see where they are!

You're just an attention slut aren't you ?

Bad diagnosis, Poopie. I'm more of a nitpicker or compulsive critic. But
unlike you, when I open my mouth to voice a criticism, I make sure I'm in
the right.

Two errors, Poophead. I pinpointed them unambiguously. You are either too
stupid to even know what I'm talking about or too egomaniacal to entertain
the possibility you've made a fool of yourself.

Well, I don't know if Graham can spot them, but I can't. And I'd bet
no one else on this NG can either.


"which" instead of "that" (more correct) and publications don't literally
"talk".

and

"having" instead of "has" referring to the singular "publication"

Perhaps three errors?

Subtle, and hardly in the way of most peoples' understanding. But
grammatical errors nonetheless.

[MINe 109]

In article ,
(paul packer) wrote:

On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:49:08 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



Doofus the Donkey dorked:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of
electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

There was no error to correct.

You made two errors, you uneducated donkey. One for each [sic].

No I didn't !

Yes you did! I marked them both with [sic]s! You can see where they are!

You're just an attention slut aren't you ?

Bad diagnosis, Poopie. I'm more of a nitpicker or compulsive critic. But
unlike you, when I open my mouth to voice a criticism, I make sure I'm in
the right.

Two errors, Poophead. I pinpointed them unambiguously. You are either too
stupid to even know what I'm talking about or too egomaniacal to entertain
the possibility you've made a fool of yourself.

Well, I don't know if Graham can spot them, but I can't. And I'd bet
no one else on this NG can either.

I'd guess *that* you'd be wrong, but some might think it a question
of.....style.

Stephen

[Sander deWaal]

(paul packer) said:


I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality


It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen. [sic]


That's "Dummkopf", George.


Two errors, Poophead. I pinpointed them unambiguously. You are either too
stupid to even know what I'm talking about or too egomaniacal to entertain
the possibility you've made a fool of yourself.


Well, I don't know if Graham can spot them, but I can't. And I'd bet
no one else on this NG can either.


"I wouldn't trust any publication that talks about electronics
purporting to have properties like spaciousness and
three-dimensionality."

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Eeyore]

Harry Lavo wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:49:08 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:
Doofus the Donkey dorked:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of
electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

There was no error to correct.

You made two errors, you uneducated donkey. One for each [sic].

No I didn't !

Yes you did! I marked them both with [sic]s! You can see where they are!

You're just an attention slut aren't you ?

Bad diagnosis, Poopie. I'm more of a nitpicker or compulsive critic. But
unlike you, when I open my mouth to voice a criticism, I make sure I'm in
the right.

Two errors, Poophead. I pinpointed them unambiguously. You are either too
stupid to even know what I'm talking about or too egomaniacal to entertain
the possibility you've made a fool of yourself.

Well, I don't know if Graham can spot them, but I can't. And I'd bet
no one else on this NG can either.


"which" instead of "that" (more correct) and publications don't literally
"talk".

and

"having" instead of "has" referring to the singular "publication"

Perhaps three errors?

Subtle, and hardly in the way of most peoples' understanding. But
grammatical errors nonetheless.

You can't replace having with has in the above without reconstructing the
sentence.

Graham

[George M. Middius]

paul packer said:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

There was no error to correct.

You made two errors, you uneducated donkey. One for each [sic].

No I didn't !

Yes you did! I marked them both with [sic]s! You can see where they are!

You're just an attention slut aren't you ?

Bad diagnosis, Poopie. I'm more of a nitpicker or compulsive critic. But
unlike you, when I open my mouth to voice a criticism, I make sure I'm in
the right.

Two errors, Poophead. I pinpointed them unambiguously. You are either too
stupid to even know what I'm talking about or too egomaniacal to entertain
the possibility you've made a fool of yourself.

Well, I don't know if Graham can spot them, but I can't. And I'd bet
no one else on this NG can either.

1. which[sic]
2. ......[sic]

Now everybody can "spot them".




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[George M. Middius]

Harry Lavo said:

"which" instead of "that" (more correct)

Right. (!)

and publications don't literally "talk".

Don't you think that trope is OK, since it's in common usage? I don't
think an informal but recognizable idiom qualifies as an error.

"having" instead of "has" referring to the singular "publication"

I think his usage was OK there. The gerund acts as a nominative in the
subordinate clause.

Perhaps three errors?
Subtle, and hardly in the way of most peoples'[sic] understanding. But
grammatical errors nonetheless.

The second one I saw is the misplaced ellipsis. Since nothing was elided,
it's an erroneous usage.

[sic] semper erratis!




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Harry Lavo]

"Eeyore" wrote in
message ...


Harry Lavo wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:49:08 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:
Doofus the Donkey dorked:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of
electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen.

There was no error to correct.

You made two errors, you uneducated donkey. One for each [sic].

No I didn't !

Yes you did! I marked them both with [sic]s! You can see where they
are!

You're just an attention slut aren't you ?

Bad diagnosis, Poopie. I'm more of a nitpicker or compulsive critic.
But
unlike you, when I open my mouth to voice a criticism, I make sure I'm
in
the right.

Two errors, Poophead. I pinpointed them unambiguously. You are either
too
stupid to even know what I'm talking about or too egomaniacal to
entertain
the possibility you've made a fool of yourself.

Well, I don't know if Graham can spot them, but I can't. And I'd bet
no one else on this NG can either.


"which" instead of "that" (more correct) and publications don't literally
"talk".

and

"having" instead of "has" referring to the singular "publication"

Perhaps three errors?

Subtle, and hardly in the way of most peoples' understanding. But
grammatical errors nonetheless.

You can't replace having with has in the above without reconstructing the
sentence.


You are right...my bad. I actually related the verb back to "publication"
instead of "electronics". I'm generally not a "nitpicker" and obviously
don't do it that well.

[George M. Middius]

Sander deWaal said:

I wouldn't trust any publication which[sic] talks of electronics
having......[sic] spaciousness and three-dimensionality

It means I'm pointing out an error, dummkopfen. [sic]

That's "Dummkopf"[sic], George.

Actually, I was addressing both paul and Poopie. But congrats on the
correct usage of brackets around your erroneous "sic".

Two errors, Poophead. I pinpointed them unambiguously. You are either too
stupid to even know what I'm talking about or too egomaniacal to entertain
the possibility you've made a fool of yourself.

Well, I don't know if Graham can spot them, but I can't. And I'd bet
no one else on this NG can either.

Looks like you were wrong there. Two others spotted at least one of them.
And now thanks to Harry, we have a sub-sub-sub-thread on some fine points
of grammar and usage.

"I wouldn't trust any publication that talks about electronics
purporting to have properties like spaciousness and
three-dimensionality."

Excellent! You fixed both of the Poopie-isms.



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