Linux is Unix and Unix is not a real-time OS. BeOS was a lot closer to
a desktop RTOS but Gassee, being French, was technically bright but
stupid businesswise. So we can blame the French here like always.

Yeah, I have heard of QNX. Canadian. Same goddamn deal. They're the
same, eh?

Whazzat? The Kennedys weren't French? ****. Can't blame them for
killing Marilyn then. Oh well, we tried....Hey, she was in Canada when
she filmed Niagara..maybe it was a beef with the Canadian mob!




"Kadaitcha Man" wrote in message news:frvfKm6frJynD3AC5DB95C7618E6Z8opz8I7Hi2k@kad aitcha.cx...
kone wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:

kone wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:

kone wrote:

People interested in freedom run Linux.

Such as Al Queda, North Korea et al.


Why do you try and equate terrorism with Linux?

Why do you try and equate freedom with an OS that is readily
available to the most abhorrent governments and organisations on the
planet?

You mean Windows isn't readily available to them also?

No. I mean to ask precisely what I asked. You didn't answer so the question
stands. Why do you try and equate freedom with an OS that is readily
available to the most abhorrent governments and organisations on the planet?

I don't want

Who gives a **** besides yourself for what you want, linux****?

Obviously you do.

Linux makes you stupid, and lame.

(Jim-Ed Browne) wrote in
m:

Linux is Unix and Unix is not a real-time OS. BeOS was a lot closer to
a desktop RTOS but Gassee, being French, was technically bright but
stupid businesswise. So we can blame the French here like always.



Linux is not Unix. If Linux were Unix compliant, Linux could call itself
Unix. The Open Group holds the UNIX System trademark in trust for the
industry. Conformance to the Single UNIX Specification is measured through
a family of test suites. Linix is classed as a different operating system
seperate from Unix.

There was a RTOS version of Unix called RTOS-Unix. IIRC that version was
develped at AT&T Unix Systems Laboratories.

r






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kone wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:

kone wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:

kone wrote:

People interested in freedom run Linux.

Such as Al Queda, North Korea et al.


Why do you try and equate terrorism with Linux?

Why do you try and equate freedom with an OS that is readily
available to the most abhorrent governments and organisations on the
planet?

You mean Windows isn't readily available to them also?

No. I mean to ask precisely what I asked. You didn't answer so the
question stands. Why do you try and equate freedom with an OS that is
readily available to the most abhorrent governments and organisations
on the planet?

I don't want

Who gives a **** besides yourself for what you want, linux****?

Obviously you do.

Linux makes you stupid, and lame.



--
Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

Trademark semantics aside, Linux is, functionally, Unix.

From a user standpoint, there is no one true Unix, at least after
SVR4. There are only different versions of Unix-based operating
systems like SCO, Sun Solaris, Ultrix, Irix, HP-UX, et al. Linux as
far as I know was designed to "run like a Sun" back when Suns were
beyond easy private ownership.


QNX, and others are real-time OSes based on Unix concepts. QNX could
have been the dominant player except they chose to market their
product expressly to discourage desktop usage. They feared M$ would
take them outside and beat them up.

BeOS would have been a very successful niche product with any degree
of marketing sense at all.

Jim-Ed Browne wrote:
Linux is Unix and Unix is not a real-time OS. BeOS was a lot closer to
a desktop RTOS but Gassee, being French, was technically bright but
stupid businesswise. So we can blame the French here like always.

Actually RTLinux does have a genuine realtime kernal. You have to actually
write code to use the realtime calls, though.

Yeah, I have heard of QNX. Canadian. Same goddamn deal. They're the
same, eh?

QNX again is Unix with some realtime additions, like the old Gould operating
system.

Whazzat? The Kennedys weren't French? ****. Can't blame them for
killing Marilyn then. Oh well, we tried....Hey, she was in Canada when
she filmed Niagara..maybe it was a beef with the Canadian mob!

Isn't the realtime kernal used in the Emulex stuff actually Canadian?
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Rich.Andrews wrote:
(Jim-Ed Browne) wrote in
om:

Linux is Unix and Unix is not a real-time OS. BeOS was a lot closer to
a desktop RTOS but Gassee, being French, was technically bright but
stupid businesswise. So we can blame the French here like always.

Linux is not Unix. If Linux were Unix compliant, Linux could call itself
Unix. The Open Group holds the UNIX System trademark in trust for the
industry. Conformance to the Single UNIX Specification is measured through
a family of test suites. Linix is classed as a different operating system
seperate from Unix.

What is Unix? Is there just one Unix? Is it a BSD release? Is it an
AT&T release?

Personally, I figure if it has all the system calls that v7 had, it's
Unix. Others may differ.

There was a RTOS version of Unix called RTOS-Unix. IIRC that version was
develped at AT&T Unix Systems Laboratories.

Unix systems laboratories???
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

(Scott Dorsey) wrote in
:

Rich.Andrews wrote:
(Jim-Ed Browne) wrote in
. com:

Linux is Unix and Unix is not a real-time OS. BeOS was a lot closer to
a desktop RTOS but Gassee, being French, was technically bright but
stupid businesswise. So we can blame the French here like always.

Linux is not Unix. If Linux were Unix compliant, Linux could call
itself Unix. The Open Group holds the UNIX System trademark in trust
for the industry. Conformance to the Single UNIX Specification is
measured through a family of test suites. Linix is classed as a
different operating system seperate from Unix.

What is Unix? Is there just one Unix? Is it a BSD release? Is it an
AT&T release?

here are many Unix compliant operating systems. There are more that are
unix like. The distinction is subtle at times and obvious in others. An
obvious example of a unix like os is AIX which is an acronym for Ain't
unIX.



Personally, I figure if it has all the system calls that v7 had, it's
Unix. Others may differ.


There there are the commands, and the return codes from those, etc.

There was a RTOS version of Unix called RTOS-Unix. IIRC that version
was develped at AT&T Unix Systems Laboratories.

Unix systems laboratories???
--scott

Yup. USL was sold to Novell. AT&T Computer Systems, wrote some very
large checks to USL as part of the licensing agreement for SVR4. SVR4 was
the first time that Unix had features like a loadable and unloadable
device drivers, 100% streams based networking and serial communications,
as well as other interesting features. Met some very interesting people
at the Labs. One fellow that impressed me the most could view the
disasssembler output and convert that to C in his head. Not sure what
ever happened to Art and his partner Dwayne. That was a long time ago, in
a very far away place. Those were the days of Datakit, IH, Amhdahl, 3B,
and the eventual NCR destruction of a family of products. We figured that
when NCR took over the new company would be named Cash Registers and
Phones.

r


--
Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

(Jim-Ed Browne) wrote in message om...
Linux is Unix and Unix is not a real-time OS. BeOS was a lot closer to
a desktop RTOS but Gassee, being French, was technically bright but
stupid businesswise. So we can blame the French here like always.

Yeah, I have heard of QNX. Canadian. Same goddamn deal. They're the
same, eh?

Whazzat? The Kennedys weren't French? ****. Can't blame them for
killing Marilyn then. Oh well, we tried....Hey, she was in Canada when
she filmed Niagara..maybe it was a beef with the Canadian mob!

The other day, I burned my mouth really bad on some french fries... I
already blamed the French for something this week... sorry

Crumb a écrit :

The other day, I burned my mouth really bad on some french fries...

The ones you use to eat are named "Liberty fries".
I am not really surprised that you burned your mouth on this ones. :-(

All I can say is, when I was over in Paris, a week after 9/11, the people
were wonderful. I was waiting for "the rudeness", but found none!

Tom





"Lionel" wrote in message
...
Crumb a écrit :

The other day, I burned my mouth really bad on some french fries...

The ones you use to eat are named "Liberty fries".
I am not really surprised that you burned your mouth on this ones. :-(

Tommy B a écrit :
All I can say is, when I was over in Paris, a week after 9/11, the people
were wonderful. I was waiting for "the rudeness", but found none!

Tom

The ratio boors / sane is the same in France than in USA.
If we consider that RAO is a representative panel of U.S. population for
one idiot like McKelvy we have at least 7 or 8 sane contradictors. No
reason to be pessimist. ;-)

BTW the "rudeness" you was waiting doesn't exist it's only a phantasm of
xenophobes or propaganda from politics.




"Lionel" wrote in message
...

Crumb a écrit :


The other day, I burned my mouth really bad on some french fries...

The ones you use to eat are named "Liberty fries".
I am not really surprised that you burned your mouth on this ones. :-(

In article , (Jim-Ed Browne) wrote:
Linux is Unix and Unix is not a real-time OS. BeOS was a lot closer to
a desktop RTOS but Gassee, being French, was technically bright but
stupid businesswise. So we can blame the French here like always.

Yeah, I have heard of QNX. Canadian. Same goddamn deal. They're the
same, eh?

Whazzat? The Kennedys weren't French? ****. Can't blame them for
killing Marilyn then. Oh well, we tried....Hey, she was in Canada when
she filmed Niagara..maybe it was a beef with the Canadian mob!


Well the Kennedys are liberals, the liberals love the french more than they
love their own country, so theres the link.'





"Kadaitcha Man" wrote in message
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kone wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:

kone wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:

kone wrote:

People interested in freedom run Linux.

Such as Al Queda, North Korea et al.


Why do you try and equate terrorism with Linux?

Why do you try and equate freedom with an OS that is readily
available to the most abhorrent governments and organisations on the
planet?

You mean Windows isn't readily available to them also?

No. I mean to ask precisely what I asked. You didn't answer so the question
stands. Why do you try and equate freedom with an OS that is readily
available to the most abhorrent governments and organisations on the planet?

I don't want

Who gives a **** besides yourself for what you want, linux****?

Obviously you do.

Linux makes you stupid, and lame.

"George M. Middius" wrote in message


Paul Dormer said:

I think you left out some words... "love the french" what? Wine, sure.
Cars... to some extent.

Sander deWaal has expressed a curious predilection for their
dolphines..

Jamie Oliver, dolphine de cuisine extraordinaire, is said to be "wildly
popular" in the U.K. What is wrong with you people?


Actually I recently got a chance to go to Jamie Oliver's restaurant in
London. It's really quite good.

"Paul Dormer" wrote in message

"Schizoid Man" emitted :

Actually I recently got a chance to go to Jamie Oliver's restaurant in
London. It's really quite good.

Fifteen! Haven't eaten there yet, but I've seen the documentary :-)

All profits go to charity, amazingly enough..


15 indeed.

"Paul Dormer" wrote in message

"George M. Middius" emitted :

Actually I recently got a chance to go to Jamie Oliver's restaurant in
London. It's really quite good.

No doubt, but that's not really the point, is it? As a parallel, some say
that Arnii Krooger is chock-full of audio knowledge. Good luck trying to
get it.

Nothing beats actually being in a kitchen with food in front of you..

I find Oliver "OK" at communicating ideas and techniques. Certainly
less painful than Gary Rhodes or Delia Smith.. Nigella Lawson is just
plain ****ing weird..


I think Nigella Lawson is hot.

Seeing a rather healthy woman gorge herself on a rich, chocolate 'comfort'
fudge is.... enticing.