[Jenn]

..... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music
sections, and on and on. It's pretty clear that we are going more and
more to online ordering and then downloading only. Is anyone else
bummed about this? I find shopping in person much better. I know that
I've bitched about this before, but the recent news about Tower just
brings it up again.

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[MINe 109]

In article
,
Jenn wrote:

.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music
sections, and on and on. It's pretty clear that we are going more and
more to online ordering and then downloading only. Is anyone else
bummed about this? I find shopping in person much better. I know that
I've bitched about this before, but the recent news about Tower just
brings it up again.

I visited Austin's Waterloo Records today and found a crowded store, a
thriving lp section, and a classical (including hi-rez) corner. I don't
know how to evaluate claims that kids just don't buy cds anymore, but I
remember what it was like to spend scarce money on basic repertoire and
new music editions.

I'm not going to complain that there's too much choice, but it's not
often I take a chance on a $20 unfamiliar performance. Hearing something
in the store or getting a recommendation from a trusted clerk makes a
difference. (Think of the scene in High Fidelity!)

BTW, I've been hearing strange rumors about Brook-Mays and sheet music
vendors.

Stephen

[Jenn]

In article ,
MINe 109 wrote:

In article
,
Jenn wrote:

.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music
sections, and on and on. It's pretty clear that we are going more and
more to online ordering and then downloading only. Is anyone else
bummed about this? I find shopping in person much better. I know that
I've bitched about this before, but the recent news about Tower just
brings it up again.

I visited Austin's Waterloo Records today and found a crowded store, a
thriving lp section, and a classical (including hi-rez) corner. I don't
know how to evaluate claims that kids just don't buy cds anymore, but I
remember what it was like to spend scarce money on basic repertoire and
new music editions.

I'm not going to complain that there's too much choice, but it's not
often I take a chance on a $20 unfamiliar performance. Hearing something
in the store or getting a recommendation from a trusted clerk makes a
difference. (Think of the scene in High Fidelity!)

BTW, I've been hearing strange rumors about Brook-Mays and sheet music
vendors.

Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are few places left
to browse for scores, etc.

Stephen

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[Harry Lavo]

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music
sections, and on and on. It's pretty clear that we are going more and
more to online ordering and then downloading only. Is anyone else
bummed about this? I find shopping in person much better. I know that
I've bitched about this before, but the recent news about Tower just
brings it up again.


I'm certainly bummed by it. Used to love to browse SACD's...now a thing of
the past. Barnes & Noble still has big selection but at top dollar. I get
my jollies these days by browsing used CD and record stores, which we have
in abundance in (thrifty) New England.

[Harry Lavo]

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
MINe 109 wrote:

In article
,
Jenn wrote:

.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music
sections, and on and on. It's pretty clear that we are going more and
more to online ordering and then downloading only. Is anyone else
bummed about this? I find shopping in person much better. I know that
I've bitched about this before, but the recent news about Tower just
brings it up again.

I visited Austin's Waterloo Records today and found a crowded store, a
thriving lp section, and a classical (including hi-rez) corner. I don't
know how to evaluate claims that kids just don't buy cds anymore, but I
remember what it was like to spend scarce money on basic repertoire and
new music editions.

I'm not going to complain that there's too much choice, but it's not
often I take a chance on a $20 unfamiliar performance. Hearing something
in the store or getting a recommendation from a trusted clerk makes a
difference. (Think of the scene in High Fidelity!)

BTW, I've been hearing strange rumors about Brook-Mays and sheet music
vendors.

Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are few places left
to browse for scores, etc.


An Oberlin alum set up a sheet music store and coffee shop in a nice but
low-rent space about one block from the conservatory. We all thought it was
neat. It was gone in a year. My friend Barb Speer (a professional pianist)
says even in Manhattan stores are closing or shrinking.

[John Atkinson]

Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are few
places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so mainstream
out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and EveryNote.com.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Harry Lavo" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
MINe 109 wrote:

In article
,
Jenn wrote:

.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music
sections, and on and on. It's pretty clear that we are going more and
more to online ordering and then downloading only. Is anyone else
bummed about this? I find shopping in person much better. I know that
I've bitched about this before, but the recent news about Tower just
brings it up again.

I visited Austin's Waterloo Records today and found a crowded store, a
thriving lp section, and a classical (including hi-rez) corner. I don't
know how to evaluate claims that kids just don't buy cds anymore, but I
remember what it was like to spend scarce money on basic repertoire and
new music editions.

I'm not going to complain that there's too much choice, but it's not
often I take a chance on a $20 unfamiliar performance. Hearing something
in the store or getting a recommendation from a trusted clerk makes a
difference. (Think of the scene in High Fidelity!)

BTW, I've been hearing strange rumors about Brook-Mays and sheet music
vendors.

Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are few places left
to browse for scores, etc.


An Oberlin alum set up a sheet music store and coffee shop in a nice but
low-rent space about one block from the conservatory. We all thought it was
neat. It was gone in a year. My friend Barb Speer (a professional pianist)
says even in Manhattan stores are closing or shrinking.

True; Patelson's at Carnegie's backdoor, for example, is much shrunken.

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[MINe 109]

In article om,
"John Atkinson" wrote:

Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are few
places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so mainstream
out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and EveryNote.com.

I have my share of Dover scores!

Stephen

[ScottW]

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music

Mainstream chains going down.. good riddance.
There weren't any when I was a kid and Tower folding is like the Walmart
of records closing up AFAIAC.
.... I see record stores returning to local independent
roots.
Everytime I drop by Lous records in Encinitas I can barely
find a place to park.

Still it takes all day and they rarely have the kind of stuff I'm looking
for so having the net and independent importers with their
garage operations is really cool IMO.

ScottW

[Jenn]

In article kS9Dg.16655$RD.9278@fed1read08,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music

Mainstream chains going down.. good riddance.
There weren't any when I was a kid and Tower folding is like the Walmart
of records closing up AFAIAC.

I've always lived pretty near really good, large Towers. I'm now 3
hours from the best ones, IMO. They are FAR from the Walmart of
Records: deep catalogue, hard to find stuff, etc. especially at the
Classical Annex of the Sunset Blvd. store.

... I see record stores returning to local independent
roots.

If that happens, great. I'll hope for deep inventories.

Everytime I drop by Lous records in Encinitas I can barely
find a place to park.

Tell me about that place; maybe I'll go tomorrow. Do they have LPs? Do
they have a lot of classical?


Still it takes all day and they rarely have the kind of stuff I'm looking
for so having the net and independent importers with their
garage operations is really cool IMO.

ScottW

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[Jenn]

In article om,
"John Atkinson" wrote:

Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are few
places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so mainstream
out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and EveryNote.com.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

I have a lot of Dover, but they aren't always useable for performance
study purposes, as the available performance PARTS don't always match
the Dover scores.

The point is one can get all of the scores one wants by mail order. But
places to "graze" are going away. There is only one major one in CA
that I know of.

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[George M. Middius]

Yapper barked:

Mainstream chains going down.. good riddance.

Thanks for deciding for all of us, you fascist pig.™






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[Clyde Slick]

"Harry Lavo" wrote in message
. ..

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
MINe 109 wrote:

In article
,
Jenn wrote:

.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music
sections, and on and on. It's pretty clear that we are going more and
more to online ordering and then downloading only. Is anyone else
bummed about this? I find shopping in person much better. I know
that
I've bitched about this before, but the recent news about Tower just
brings it up again.

I visited Austin's Waterloo Records today and found a crowded store, a
thriving lp section, and a classical (including hi-rez) corner. I don't
know how to evaluate claims that kids just don't buy cds anymore, but I
remember what it was like to spend scarce money on basic repertoire and
new music editions.

I'm not going to complain that there's too much choice, but it's not
often I take a chance on a $20 unfamiliar performance. Hearing something
in the store or getting a recommendation from a trusted clerk makes a
difference. (Think of the scene in High Fidelity!)

BTW, I've been hearing strange rumors about Brook-Mays and sheet music
vendors.

Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are few places left
to browse for scores, etc.


An Oberlin alum set up a sheet music store and coffee shop in a nice but
low-rent space about one block from the conservatory. We all thought it
was neat. It was gone in a year. My friend Barb Speer (a professional
pianist) says even in Manhattan stores are closing or shrinking.


Dale Music in Silver Spring MD is still open.
Do they still carry sheet music?



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[Clyde Slick]

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article om,
"John Atkinson" wrote:

Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are few
places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so mainstream
out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and EveryNote.com.

I have my share of Dover scores!


I have never scored in Dover.



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[ScottW]

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article kS9Dg.16655$RD.9278@fed1read08,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music

Mainstream chains going down.. good riddance.
There weren't any when I was a kid and Tower folding is like the Walmart
of records closing up AFAIAC.

I've always lived pretty near really good, large Towers. I'm now 3
hours from the best ones, IMO. They are FAR from the Walmart of
Records: deep catalogue, hard to find stuff, etc. especially at the
Classical Annex of the Sunset Blvd. store.

... I see record stores returning to local independent
roots.

If that happens, great. I'll hope for deep inventories.

Everytime I drop by Lous records in Encinitas I can barely
find a place to park.

Tell me about that place; maybe I'll go tomorrow. Do they have LPs?

Very few, I recall one little rack last time I was there.

Do
they have a lot of classical?

Define a lot? they have some but probably not a lot.

There used to be a Tower in San Marcos...big store
with lots of music racks with just a few cds per rack.
It was weird..all that space and no stock.

Ever been to Gary's Record Paradise in Escondido?
Its a dump with the largest thrift shop grade vinyl
collection I've ever seen.
I bet you'd love it .

ScottW

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Clyde Slick" wrote:

"Harry Lavo" wrote in message
. ..

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
MINe 109 wrote:

In article
,
Jenn wrote:

.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music
sections, and on and on. It's pretty clear that we are going more and
more to online ordering and then downloading only. Is anyone else
bummed about this? I find shopping in person much better. I know
that
I've bitched about this before, but the recent news about Tower just
brings it up again.

I visited Austin's Waterloo Records today and found a crowded store, a
thriving lp section, and a classical (including hi-rez) corner. I don't
know how to evaluate claims that kids just don't buy cds anymore, but I
remember what it was like to spend scarce money on basic repertoire and
new music editions.

I'm not going to complain that there's too much choice, but it's not
often I take a chance on a $20 unfamiliar performance. Hearing something
in the store or getting a recommendation from a trusted clerk makes a
difference. (Think of the scene in High Fidelity!)

BTW, I've been hearing strange rumors about Brook-Mays and sheet music
vendors.

Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are few places left
to browse for scores, etc.


An Oberlin alum set up a sheet music store and coffee shop in a nice but
low-rent space about one block from the conservatory. We all thought it
was neat. It was gone in a year. My friend Barb Speer (a professional
pianist) says even in Manhattan stores are closing or shrinking.


Dale Music in Silver Spring MD is still open.
Do they still carry sheet music?

Looks pretty good IF they keep what is in their database in stock. A
little far for me to drive though... ;-)

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[Jenn]

In article _DaDg.16659$RD.15836@fed1read08,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article kS9Dg.16655$RD.9278@fed1read08,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are shrinking music

Mainstream chains going down.. good riddance.
There weren't any when I was a kid and Tower folding is like the Walmart
of records closing up AFAIAC.

I've always lived pretty near really good, large Towers. I'm now 3
hours from the best ones, IMO. They are FAR from the Walmart of
Records: deep catalogue, hard to find stuff, etc. especially at the
Classical Annex of the Sunset Blvd. store.

... I see record stores returning to local independent
roots.

If that happens, great. I'll hope for deep inventories.

Everytime I drop by Lous records in Encinitas I can barely
find a place to park.

Tell me about that place; maybe I'll go tomorrow. Do they have LPs?

Very few, I recall one little rack last time I was there.

Do
they have a lot of classical?

Define a lot? they have some but probably not a lot.

Hmmm, I'll check it out next trip to Vista.


There used to be a Tower in San Marcos...big store
with lots of music racks with just a few cds per rack.
It was weird..all that space and no stock.

Ever been to Gary's Record Paradise in Escondido?
Its a dump with the largest thrift shop grade vinyl
collection I've ever seen.
I bet you'd love it .

lol Nah, I'm into the "good stuff".

ScottW

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[ScottW]

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote
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Yapper barked:

Mainstream chains going down.. good riddance.

Thanks for deciding for all of us, you fascist pig.T

Not like I stood out in front and cussed everyone
who came through the door like Georgie.

ScottW

[Clyde Slick]

"ScottW" wrote in message
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Ever been to Gary's Record Paradise in Escondido?
Its a dump with the largest thrift shop grade vinyl
collection I've ever seen.
I bet you'd love it .


Yes, a 'cousin' to Joe's Record paradise



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[MINe 109]

In article ,
"Clyde Slick" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article om,
"John Atkinson" wrote:

Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are few
places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so mainstream
out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and EveryNote.com.

I have my share of Dover scores!


I have never scored in Dover.

You poor sole.

Stephen

[Clyde Slick]

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Clyde Slick" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article om,
"John Atkinson" wrote:

Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are few
places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so mainstream
out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and EveryNote.com.

I have my share of Dover scores!


I have never scored in Dover.

You poor sole.


I have been fileted. Thanks.



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[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" wrote in message

.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are
shrinking music sections, and on and on. It's pretty
clear that we are going more and more to online ordering
and then downloading only. Is anyone else bummed about
this?

No, because I have enough abstract reasoning and patience to be good with
buying pre-recorded media online.

We used to have two brick-and-mortar media stores in walking distance. The
big chain was just plain a waste, and the little chain had great people but
their stock was very limited compared to what's available online.

If I'm going to special order the product anyhow, its better for me to
manage the transaction myself online, and have it delivered to my door as
opposed to going back to the store.

The internet and UPS/FedEx/USPS pretty well killed or will just about any
business based on discretiionary purchases and items that ship well.

That means BTW that Borders and B&N have their days numbered in the small
integers. I walk to the nearby B&N for the experience, not because I'm
serious about buying a certain book. I buy that certain book from Amazon.

[Arny Krueger]

"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
ps.com
Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are
few places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so
mainstream out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and
EveryNote.com.

My favorite source of sheet music has a PhD in music from MSU and a
computer.

He listens to music from CDs, MP3s, and live sources, plays the melody on a
MIDI keyboard or just pokes it in with a mouse, arranges the parts in a
similar fashion, checks the music out with a PC-based MIDI synth driving a
pair of studio monitors, and prints out sheet music for the musicians, who
are my friends.

My part of the deal is that I help pay his salary, supply him with audio
hardware, and mix his live performances. For example, his studio monitors
are branded "NHT Pro".

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
ps.com
Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are
few places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so
mainstream out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and
EveryNote.com.

My favorite source of sheet music has a PhD in music from MSU and a
computer.

He listens to music from CDs, MP3s, and live sources, plays the melody on a
MIDI keyboard or just pokes it in with a mouse, arranges the parts in a
similar fashion, checks the music out with a PC-based MIDI synth driving a
pair of studio monitors, and prints out sheet music for the musicians, who
are my friends.

My part of the deal is that I help pay his salary, supply him with audio
hardware, and mix his live performances. For example, his studio monitors
are branded "NHT Pro".

All well and good and all of us with the proper talent, experience, and
access to the equipment can do it, but it from address the issue for my
colleagues and me.

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[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

.... saddened by the disappearance of record/cd stores?

Tower looks like it's going down, Borders and B&N are
shrinking music sections, and on and on. It's pretty
clear that we are going more and more to online ordering
and then downloading only. Is anyone else bummed about
this?

No, because I have enough abstract reasoning and patience to be good with
buying pre-recorded media online.

So do I, but it's beside the point.


We used to have two brick-and-mortar media stores in walking distance. The
big chain was just plain a waste, and the little chain had great people but
their stock was very limited compared to what's available online.

If I'm going to special order the product anyhow, its better for me to
manage the transaction myself online, and have it delivered to my door as
opposed to going back to the store.

The internet and UPS/FedEx/USPS pretty well killed or will just about any
business based on discretiionary purchases and items that ship well.

What will our downtowns look like in 10 years, I wonder.


That means BTW that Borders and B&N have their days numbered in the small
integers. I walk to the nearby B&N for the experience, not because I'm
serious about buying a certain book. I buy that certain book from Amazon.

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[George M. Middius]

Snottyborg snotted:

No, because I have enough abstract reasoning and patience

What's up, Arnii? I'll bet you're all wound up because you're dreading
another church session tomorrow. Am I right or am I right? I'm right, of
course. All together now:

Snot, snot, snot a post
Nasty on the 'net
Snottily, snottily, snottily, snottily
Krooger's such a snot.




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[John Atkinson]

Arny Krueger wrote:
"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
ps.com
Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are
few places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so
mainstream out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and
EveryNote.com.

My favorite source of sheet music has a PhD in music from
MSU and a computer.

He listens to music from CDs, MP3s, and live sources, plays
the melody on a MIDI keyboard or just pokes it in with a mouse,
arranges the parts in a similar fashion, checks the music out
with a PC-based MIDI synth driving a pair of studio monitors, and
prints out sheet music for the musicians, who are my friends.

So, if you wanted to read the score of Wagner's Gotterdammerung
while you listen to the recording and don't wish to pay Dover the
$24.95 they are asking for the large-format score, you can ask your
friend to key in all the parts with his mouse or MIDI jkeyboard and
print them out for you. That's a heck of a deal you have there Mr.
Krueger. :-)

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[George M. Middius]

John Atkinson said:

So, if you wanted to read the score of Wagner's Gotterdammerung
while you listen to the recording and don't wish to pay Dover the
$24.95 they are asking for the large-format score, you can ask your
friend to key in all the parts with his mouse or MIDI jkeyboard and
print them out for you. That's a heck of a deal you have there Mr.
Krueger. :-)

Hivie drones don't have many options, you know. The drone Krooger referred
to is probably one step away from forced obsolescence (i.e. recycling), so
it is bound to cling to any lifeline thrown its way.





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[MINe 109]

In article
,
Jenn wrote:

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
ps.com
Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are
few places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so
mainstream out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and
EveryNote.com.

My favorite source of sheet music has a PhD in music from MSU and a
computer.

He listens to music from CDs, MP3s, and live sources, plays the melody on a
MIDI keyboard or just pokes it in with a mouse, arranges the parts in a
similar fashion, checks the music out with a PC-based MIDI synth driving a
pair of studio monitors, and prints out sheet music for the musicians, who
are my friends.

My part of the deal is that I help pay his salary, supply him with audio
hardware, and mix his live performances. For example, his studio monitors
are branded "NHT Pro".

All well and good and all of us with the proper talent, experience, and
access to the equipment can do it, but it from address the issue for my
colleagues and me.

I was given a copy of the score of Amerique. Someday I'll listen to my
Nagano-conducted recording with it in hand. While I'm sure Arny's friend
does a good job transcribing tunes and making arrangements, I don't
think he'll be doing much Varese.

Stephen

[MINe 109]

In article om,
"John Atkinson" wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
ps.com
Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are
few places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so
mainstream out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and
EveryNote.com.

My favorite source of sheet music has a PhD in music from
MSU and a computer.

He listens to music from CDs, MP3s, and live sources, plays
the melody on a MIDI keyboard or just pokes it in with a mouse,
arranges the parts in a similar fashion, checks the music out
with a PC-based MIDI synth driving a pair of studio monitors, and
prints out sheet music for the musicians, who are my friends.

So, if you wanted to read the score of Wagner's Gotterdammerung
while you listen to the recording and don't wish to pay Dover the
$24.95 they are asking for the large-format score, you can ask your
friend to key in all the parts with his mouse or MIDI jkeyboard and
print them out for you. That's a heck of a deal you have there Mr.
Krueger. :-)

No hard-to-read transposed instrument parts!

Stephen

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
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Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There
are few places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so
mainstream out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover
and EveryNote.com.

My favorite source of sheet music has a PhD in music
from MSU and a computer.

He listens to music from CDs, MP3s, and live sources,
plays the melody on a MIDI keyboard or just pokes it in
with a mouse, arranges the parts in a similar fashion,
checks the music out with a PC-based MIDI synth driving
a pair of studio monitors, and prints out sheet music
for the musicians, who are my friends.

My part of the deal is that I help pay his salary,
supply him with audio hardware, and mix his live
performances. For example, his studio monitors are
branded "NHT Pro".

All well and good and all of us with the proper talent,
experience, and access to the equipment can do it, but it
from address the issue for my colleagues and me.

Congratulations Jenn.

Unlike Atkinson, you correctly decoded the meaning of the common phrase: "My
Favorite".

IOW, not the only, just one that is preferred most often.

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
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Snottyborg snotted:

No, because I have enough abstract reasoning and patience

What's up, Arnii? I'll bet you're all wound up because
you're dreading another church session tomorrow. Am I
right or am I right? I'm right, of course. All together
now:

Snot, snot, snot a post
Nasty on the 'net
Snottily, snottily, snottily, snottily
Krooger's such a snot.

Well Middius, your post isn't just snotty, its just plain objectionable to
any but your posse and your sweet self. Then there's the matter of your
massive self-righteousness.

[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
[dot] net wrote in message

Snottyborg snotted:

No, because I have enough abstract reasoning and patience

What's up, Arnii? I'll bet you're all wound up because
you're dreading another church session tomorrow. Am I
right or am I right? I'm right, of course. All together
now:

Snot, snot, snot a post
Nasty on the 'net
Snottily, snottily, snottily, snottily
Krooger's such a snot.

Well Middius, your post isn't just snotty, its just plain objectionable to
any but your posse and your sweet self. Then there's the matter of your
massive self-righteousness.






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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
[dot] net wrote in message

Snottyborg snotted:

No, because I have enough abstract reasoning and patience

What's up, Arnii? I'll bet you're all wound up because
you're dreading another church session tomorrow. Am I
right or am I right? I'm right, of course. All together
now:

Snot, snot, snot a post
Nasty on the 'net
Snottily, snottily, snottily, snottily
Krooger's such a snot.

Well Middius, your post isn't just snotty, its just plain objectionable to
any but your posse and your sweet self. Then there's the matter of your
massive self-righteousness.






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[Clyde Slick]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
[dot] net wrote in message

Snottyborg snotted:

No, because I have enough abstract reasoning and patience

What's up, Arnii? I'll bet you're all wound up because
you're dreading another church session tomorrow. Am I
right or am I right? I'm right, of course. All together
now:

Snot, snot, snot a post
Nasty on the 'net
Snottily, snottily, snottily, snottily
Krooger's such a snot.

Well Middius, your post isn't just snotty, its just plain objectionable to
any but your posse and your sweet self. Then there's the matter of your
massive self-righteousness.



It certainly wasn't one of George's funniest comments.
I know he can do better.



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[George M. Middius]

The Krooborg licks its behind.

What's up, Arnii? I'll bet you're all wound up because
you're dreading another church session tomorrow. Am I
right or am I right? I'm right, of course.

No response from Mr. ****, which means, according to "debating trade"
rules, that my statement is completely accurate. We now know that Krooger
dreads going to church. We can only speculate as to why he keeps doing it.
My guess is he needs the punishment to balance out his loathsomeness
during the other 166 hours of the week.

All together now:

Snot, snot, snot a post
Nasty on the 'net
Snottily, snottily, snottily, snottily
Krooger's such a snot.

Well Middius, your post isn't just snotty, its[sic] just plain objectionable to
any but your posse and your sweet self.

We await your sharing the Krooglish definition of "snotty". Clearly it's
massively different from the human definition.

Then there's the matter of your massive self-righteousness.

Have you noticed yet that it's not just me? ;-)





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A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
ps.com
Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There
are few places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so
mainstream out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover
and EveryNote.com.

My favorite source of sheet music has a PhD in music
from MSU and a computer.

He listens to music from CDs, MP3s, and live sources,
plays the melody on a MIDI keyboard or just pokes it in
with a mouse, arranges the parts in a similar fashion,
checks the music out with a PC-based MIDI synth driving
a pair of studio monitors, and prints out sheet music
for the musicians, who are my friends.

My part of the deal is that I help pay his salary,
supply him with audio hardware, and mix his live
performances. For example, his studio monitors are
branded "NHT Pro".

All well and good and all of us with the proper talent,
experience, and access to the equipment can do it, but it
from address the issue for my colleagues and me.

Congratulations Jenn.

Unlike Atkinson, you correctly decoded the meaning of the common phrase: "My
Favorite".

IOW, not the only, just one that is preferred most often.

Whatever. BTW, what do you use such music for?

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[Jenn]

In article ,
MINe 109 wrote:

In article
,
Jenn wrote:

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
ps.com
Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are
few places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so
mainstream out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and
EveryNote.com.

My favorite source of sheet music has a PhD in music from MSU and a
computer.

He listens to music from CDs, MP3s, and live sources, plays the melody on
a
MIDI keyboard or just pokes it in with a mouse, arranges the parts in a
similar fashion, checks the music out with a PC-based MIDI synth driving
a
pair of studio monitors, and prints out sheet music for the musicians,
who
are my friends.

My part of the deal is that I help pay his salary, supply him with audio
hardware, and mix his live performances. For example, his studio monitors
are branded "NHT Pro".

All well and good and all of us with the proper talent, experience, and
access to the equipment can do it, but it from address the issue for my
colleagues and me.

I was given a copy of the score of Amerique. Someday I'll listen to my
Nagano-conducted recording with it in hand. While I'm sure Arny's friend
does a good job transcribing tunes and making arrangements, I don't
think he'll be doing much Varese.

Stephen

What a great work that is.

BTW, I had my first personal exposure to Kent Nagano this summer; a week
of following him around, conversation, watching 8 rehearsals and taking
notes, being his "ears in the hall". What a FANTASTIC person and
musician.

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[Jenn]

In article om,
"John Atkinson" wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
ps.com
Jenn wrote:
Sheet music vendors are disappearing as well. There are
few places left to browse for scores, etc.

A heretical thought, but for mainstream and not-so
mainstream out-of-copyright repertoire, there's Dover and
EveryNote.com.

My favorite source of sheet music has a PhD in music from
MSU and a computer.

He listens to music from CDs, MP3s, and live sources, plays
the melody on a MIDI keyboard or just pokes it in with a mouse,
arranges the parts in a similar fashion, checks the music out
with a PC-based MIDI synth driving a pair of studio monitors, and
prints out sheet music for the musicians, who are my friends.

So, if you wanted to read the score of Wagner's Gotterdammerung
while you listen to the recording and don't wish to pay Dover the
$24.95 they are asking for the large-format score, you can ask your
friend to key in all the parts with his mouse or MIDI jkeyboard and
print them out for you. That's a heck of a deal you have there Mr.
Krueger. :-)

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Oy! That beast has to be "at least" 600 pages of large orchestration
plus vocal and chorus parts! A bit of a dictation exercise, that!
;-)

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[Jenn]

In article ,
"Clyde Slick" wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
[dot] net wrote in message

Snottyborg snotted:

No, because I have enough abstract reasoning and patience

What's up, Arnii? I'll bet you're all wound up because
you're dreading another church session tomorrow. Am I
right or am I right? I'm right, of course. All together
now:

Snot, snot, snot a post
Nasty on the 'net
Snottily, snottily, snottily, snottily
Krooger's such a snot.

Well Middius, your post isn't just snotty, its just plain objectionable to
any but your posse and your sweet self. Then there's the matter of your
massive self-righteousness.






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[twice posted by Art without his comments]
Hey guys, can we pitch in and get Art a new mouse? ;-)

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