[Beauchampy]

Wondered if anyone had any reccommendations for driving the follow sets
of speakers;

Yamaha NS-10M Studio's
AKG LSM50's

Or maybe I can save and get something which can drive two sets of
speakers? Do they even do that with studio amps like they do with hi-fi
amps?

TIA!

Beauchampy

[Fletch]

Beauchampy wrote:
Wondered if anyone had any reccommendations for driving the follow sets
of speakers;

Yamaha NS-10M Studio's
AKG LSM50's

Or maybe I can save and get something which can drive two sets of
speakers? Do they even do that with studio amps like they do with hi-fi
amps?

TIA!

Beauchampy

I have a nice old Hafler P-3000 that runs most nearfields quite nicely.
You can still find them for around 3-400 bucks.

--Fletch

[Scott Dorsey]

Beauchampy wrote:
Wondered if anyone had any reccommendations for driving the follow sets
of speakers;

Yamaha NS-10M Studio's

I'm gonna say it. You won't want to hear it. But try a the Crown D-60.
The smeary top end on the D-60 seems to tame the screechy top end on the
NS-10. I never thought I'd ever find anything the D-60 was useful for,
but it really can help tame the NS-10.

AKG LSM50's

I'd suggest trying the Adcom GFA-555. It's got enough power, and it shows
up used for cheap. Unbalanced inputs only, though, if that is an issue.

Or maybe I can save and get something which can drive two sets of
speakers? Do they even do that with studio amps like they do with hi-fi
amps?

You can do that, the problem is that the efficiency of the two speakers is
wildly different. And you want the speakers to be as close as possible to
the same level when you switch from one amp to another. I have seen switch
boxes that switched level controls on the line input to the amp when it
switched the power output of the amp from one speaker to another, but that
is a lot of trouble today when amps are comparatively cheap.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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Beauchampy wrote:
Wondered if anyone had any reccommendations for driving the follow sets
of speakers;

Yamaha NS-10M Studio's
AKG LSM50's

Or maybe I can save and get something which can drive two sets of
speakers? Do they even do that with studio amps like they do with hi-fi
amps?

TIA!

Beauchampy

The extremely low source impedance of the Crown D-75 (0.033 ohms) lend to
driving almost anything, including near short circuits. I'm guessing you
only plan to use one pair at a time by way of a switch box. If you're
driving them both at the same time, then Scott's remarks about similar
efficiencies comes into play. Of course, that assumes they're in separate
rooms.

However, the first thing I'd do is put the NS-10Ms in the nearest dumpster
or redeploy them as door stops or paper weights. No system that inaccurate
should be used as any kind of reference or comparison.

--
~ Roy W. Rising

[Beauchampy]

wrote:
Beauchampy wrote:
Wondered if anyone had any reccommendations for driving the follow sets
of speakers;

Yamaha NS-10M Studio's
AKG LSM50's

Or maybe I can save and get something which can drive two sets of
speakers? Do they even do that with studio amps like they do with hi-fi
amps?

TIA!

Beauchampy

The extremely low source impedance of the Crown D-75 (0.033 ohms) lend to
driving almost anything, including near short circuits. I'm guessing you
only plan to use one pair at a time by way of a switch box. If you're
driving them both at the same time, then Scott's remarks about similar
efficiencies comes into play. Of course, that assumes they're in separate
rooms.

However, the first thing I'd do is put the NS-10Ms in the nearest dumpster
or redeploy them as door stops or paper weights. No system that inaccurate
should be used as any kind of reference or comparison.

What has this group got against the NS-10s? Surely enough great records
have been mixed on a pair to warrant it's status?

I just bought a pair of HR824's anyway

[Scott Dorsey]

Beauchampy wrote:

What has this group got against the NS-10s? Surely enough great records
have been mixed on a pair to warrant it's status?

Mostly I don't like the top end and the bottom end. You'll find most of
those great records were mixed on something else, using the NS-10 as a
mix check. It's okay as a mix check monitor.

The people I know who mix directly on NS-10s, like Fletcher, rely on a
bunch of wacky tricks like looking at the woofer cone and watching for
breakup modes so they can tell what their low end is doing. I can't even
imagine working this way... I'd lose my mind.

I just bought a pair of HR824's anyway

I think the HR824 and the NS-10 might be a good combination, just because
they are so different. Note that the HR824 actually has real low end
extension, somewhat. So if you have been using NS-10s in your room for
a while, and put the HR824s in there, you're going to start hearing all
kinds of low end problems with the room that you never noticed before.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Fletch]

Scott Dorsey wrote:
Beauchampy wrote:
Wondered if anyone had any reccommendations for driving the follow sets
of speakers;

Yamaha NS-10M Studio's

I'm gonna say it. You won't want to hear it. But try a the Crown D-60.
The smeary top end on the D-60 seems to tame the screechy top end on the
NS-10. I never thought I'd ever find anything the D-60 was useful for,
but it really can help tame the NS-10.

That's so funny. I was going to recommend the Crown D-60, too, but
thought better of it. I have one, too, but I didn't even think about
the smeary top end being an advantage with these speakers.

--Fletch

[Ken Winokur]

Another good thing about using a D-60 with the NS-10's is that if you
have too much subsonic bass (which is almost all low bass on the
Yamaha's), you'll see the amp going into clipping at very low volumes.
I used to use a BGW 50 for this purpose with NS 10's and with a pair of
hotrodded AR 18 BXI's. It also tamed the very annoying high end on
these speakers.

But frankly, I agree that you should trade the Yamahas in on something
else. These "wacky tricks" for mixing are no substitute for a full
range speaker (especially now a days, when so many consumers spend a
fortune on their home theaters and car stereos).


Scott Dorsey wrote:
Beauchampy wrote:

What has this group got against the NS-10s? Surely enough great records
have been mixed on a pair to warrant it's status?

Mostly I don't like the top end and the bottom end. You'll find most of
those great records were mixed on something else, using the NS-10 as a
mix check. It's okay as a mix check monitor.

The people I know who mix directly on NS-10s, like Fletcher, rely on a
bunch of wacky tricks like looking at the woofer cone and watching for
breakup modes so they can tell what their low end is doing. I can't even
imagine working this way... I'd lose my mind.

I just bought a pair of HR824's anyway

I think the HR824 and the NS-10 might be a good combination, just because
they are so different. Note that the HR824 actually has real low end
extension, somewhat. So if you have been using NS-10s in your room for
a while, and put the HR824s in there, you're going to start hearing all
kinds of low end problems with the room that you never noticed before.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."