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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:47:27 +0100, Derrick Fawsitt
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Where can I get Audio Blank Disks in the UK for a reasonable price?

at a retail store or mail order.

All my thanks to you both for the information, I have posted this
question on another NG and they are insisting I can use ordinary disks
as there is "no difference" except that its a ruse to make more money,
how do I answer them.
I posted this reply myself:-
"
I have bought a Yamaha CDR-HD1500 Recorder which only accepts "Audio"
disks. I find it a wonderful machine for recording music from all
sources and it holds up to four hundred disks at any one time having a
160 gigabyte hard drive. The only problem is it won't accept any CDR
blanks other than Audio. If you insert anything else it says it is not
an Audio disk".
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Derrick Fawsitt wrote:
In message , AZ
Nomad writes

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:47:27 +0100, Derrick Fawsitt
wrote:


Where can I get Audio Blank Disks in the UK for a reasonable price?


at a retail store or mail order.


All my thanks to you both for the information, I have posted this
question on another NG and they are insisting I can use ordinary disks
as there is "no difference" except that its a ruse to make more money,
how do I answer them.
I posted this reply myself:-
"
I have bought a Yamaha CDR-HD1500 Recorder which only accepts "Audio"
disks. I find it a wonderful machine for recording music from all
sources and it holds up to four hundred disks at any one time having a
160 gigabyte hard drive. The only problem is it won't accept any CDR
blanks other than Audio. If you insert anything else it says it is not
an Audio disk".

This is correct. If they insist then you could also tell them that this
restriction to "audio" CD-R comes as a result of pressure from the music
publishing industry. A levy from the sale of the discs goes to the
performing Rights Society. This is all based on the assumption that
consumer CD writers will be used to copy commercial material.
Professional equipment and computer writers don't have this restriction.
Your machine recognises that the disc is of the audio kind by, as I
understand it a wiggle in the guide track on the disc.
There's another restriction imposed by the publishers that, in effect
allows you to make a digital copy of a disc, but no further digital
generations from that copy.
This all seems, to me at least, to be perfectly reasonable although I do
worry that at some point the audio type of disc might become another
type of extinct media.

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Roger Thorpe wrote:

Derrick Fawsitt wrote:

In message , AZ
Nomad writes

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:47:27 +0100, Derrick Fawsitt
wrote:


Where can I get Audio Blank Disks in the UK for a reasonable price?


at a retail store or mail order.



All my thanks to you both for the information, I have posted this
question on another NG and they are insisting I can use ordinary disks
as there is "no difference" except that its a ruse to make more money,
how do I answer them.
I posted this reply myself:-
"
I have bought a Yamaha CDR-HD1500 Recorder which only accepts "Audio"
disks. I find it a wonderful machine for recording music from all
sources and it holds up to four hundred disks at any one time having a
160 gigabyte hard drive. The only problem is it won't accept any CDR
blanks other than Audio. If you insert anything else it says it is not
an Audio disk".


This is correct. If they insist then you could also tell them that this
restriction to "audio" CD-R comes as a result of pressure from the music
publishing industry. A levy from the sale of the discs goes to the
performing Rights Society. This is all based on the assumption that
consumer CD writers will be used to copy commercial material.
Professional equipment and computer writers don't have this restriction.
Your machine recognises that the disc is of the audio kind by, as I
understand it a wiggle in the guide track on the disc.
There's another restriction imposed by the publishers that, in effect
allows you to make a digital copy of a disc, but no further digital
generations from that copy.
This all seems, to me at least, to be perfectly reasonable although I do
worry that at some point the audio type of disc might become another
type of extinct media.

Oh, and I forgot to say that the larger Currys sell 10 JVC discs
(CDRA80) for £6.99

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Roger Thorpe wrote:

Derrick Fawsitt wrote:

In message ,
AZ Nomad writes

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:47:27 +0100, Derrick Fawsitt
wrote:


Where can I get Audio Blank Disks in the UK for a reasonable price?


at a retail store or mail order.


All my thanks to you both for the information, I have posted this
question on another NG and they are insisting I can use ordinary
disks as there is "no difference" except that its a ruse to make
more money, how do I answer them.
I posted this reply myself:-
"
I have bought a Yamaha CDR-HD1500 Recorder which only accepts
"Audio" disks. I find it a wonderful machine for recording music
from all sources and it holds up to four hundred disks at any one
time having a 160 gigabyte hard drive. The only problem is it won't
accept any CDR blanks other than Audio. If you insert anything else
it says it is not an Audio disk".

This is correct. If they insist then you could also tell them that
this restriction to "audio" CD-R comes as a result of pressure from
the music publishing industry. A levy from the sale of the discs goes
to the performing Rights Society. This is all based on the assumption
that consumer CD writers will be used to copy commercial material.
Professional equipment and computer writers don't have this
restriction. Your machine recognises that the disc is of the audio
kind by, as I understand it a wiggle in the guide track on the disc.
There's another restriction imposed by the publishers that, in effect
allows you to make a digital copy of a disc, but no further digital
generations from that copy.
This all seems, to me at least, to be perfectly reasonable although I
do worry that at some point the audio type of disc might become
another type of extinct media.

Oh, and I forgot to say that the larger Currys sell 10 JVC discs
(CDRA80) for £6.99

Thank you Roger, I have managed to obtain 100 Maxell audio disks on a
spindle for £30, (not incl. postage), from Price Busters. I am told TDK
are slightly, (?), better but at least I have got some to be going on
with.
Two further points, if you have time:-

1. Someone said that it might be possible to re-jig the Yamaha to accept
good quality non-audio disks. Provided it was not illegal, if possible
would it be worth considering?
2. You worried me when you said they might become extinct, however, it
does record 400 hours of music and I still could make recordings from my
tuner or disks for playback, perhaps some consolation?

Regards,
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Derrick Fawsitt wrote:

In message , Roger Thorpe
writes

Roger Thorpe wrote:

Derrick Fawsitt wrote:

In message ,
AZ Nomad writes

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:47:27 +0100, Derrick Fawsitt
wrote:


Where can I get Audio Blank Disks in the UK for a reasonable price?



at a retail store or mail order.



All my thanks to you both for the information, I have posted this
question on another NG and they are insisting I can use ordinary
disks as there is "no difference" except that its a ruse to make
more money, how do I answer them.
I posted this reply myself:-
"
I have bought a Yamaha CDR-HD1500 Recorder which only accepts
"Audio" disks. I find it a wonderful machine for recording music
from all sources and it holds up to four hundred disks at any one
time having a 160 gigabyte hard drive. The only problem is it won't
accept any CDR blanks other than Audio. If you insert anything else
it says it is not an Audio disk".

This is correct. If they insist then you could also tell them that
this restriction to "audio" CD-R comes as a result of pressure from
the music publishing industry. A levy from the sale of the discs
goes to the performing Rights Society. This is all based on the
assumption that consumer CD writers will be used to copy commercial
material. Professional equipment and computer writers don't have this
restriction. Your machine recognises that the disc is of the audio
kind by, as I understand it a wiggle in the guide track on the disc.
There's another restriction imposed by the publishers that, in effect
allows you to make a digital copy of a disc, but no further digital
generations from that copy.
This all seems, to me at least, to be perfectly reasonable although I
do worry that at some point the audio type of disc might become
another type of extinct media.

Oh, and I forgot to say that the larger Currys sell 10 JVC discs
(CDRA80) for £6.99

Thank you Roger, I have managed to obtain 100 Maxell audio disks on a
spindle for £30, (not incl. postage), from Price Busters. I am told TDK
are slightly, (?), better but at least I have got some to be going on with.
Two further points, if you have time:-

1. Someone said that it might be possible to re-jig the Yamaha to accept
good quality non-audio disks. Provided it was not illegal, if possible
would it be worth considering?
2. You worried me when you said they might become extinct, however, it
does record 400 hours of music and I still could make recordings from my
tuner or disks for playback, perhaps some consolation?

Regards,

There is talk about a "fix", but I can't find a reference from anyone
who has actually done it. If Yamaha made a professional version then one
might expect it to be simple, either by software or hardware, but I
don't think that they do.
Having done a little more research it looks as if the "audio CD-R"
restriction is world-wide, so maybe my pessimism about the future
availability of the discs was misplaced. In the long run, if the levy
system were dropped it might be possible that all CD-Rs would be audio
type since this doesn't make it incompatible with other readers/writers.
After all the manufacturers wouldn't leave us with useless machinery
again like they did with Elcasette, Digital Compact Cassette, Eight
track cartridges, video 2000, Betamax etc would they?

I do like my HD1300, recording long concerts is just so easy, and
transferring LP's to CD is better too, with the ability to edit the side
changes etc.
Here's a tip though. The manual suggests that to record over a used
CD-RW you have to re-format the disc. This takes 20mins. If you "erase
TOC" then "erase all" then it seems to work perfectly and takes about a
minute.

Roger

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