I wish I knew who the coward was which has generated two
complaints to my ISP in the past week.
Asshole doesn't even have the guts to complain
in person but uses a web robot called SpamCop.

What can I say, once I felt the group could be a
cool audio group. Since then I've been corrupted
into free discussion. Now I've been banished as
a consequence.

If this asshole keeps it up, some of you guys won't
have anyone to insult. Then what will you do?

Well I had some laughs. Take care all, friend or foe.

ScottW

ScottW wrote:

What can I say, once I felt the group could be a
cool audio group.

LOL!

Arny Krueger wrote:
ScottW wrote:


What can I say, once I felt the group could be a
cool audio group.


LOL!

"What can I say, once I felt the group could be a
cool audio group. Since then I've been corrupted
into free discussion."

I think that the second part of the sentence "Since then I've..." is
really more pathetico-funny. ;-)

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 05:13:08 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

ScottW wrote:

What can I say, once I felt the group could be a
cool audio group.

LOL!

Yep, this shows your attitude of what the group could be, Arnold.

Thanks for admitting that you have never had the well-being of the
group at heart and have done everything you can to tear it down.

BTW, due to your non-answer regarding dbts conducted to support your
claims about the differences in certain DVD/SACD players, we can
assume that you conducted none between the players you mentioned, and,
according to your own rules, your comments can be discarded because of
the lack of scientific rigor.

My rules, OTOH, allow you to freely make such comments, BTW. Only
problem is, I'm not entirely sure that you have even listened to the
units in question, especially in the same listening session. Heck, I'm
not even sure if you've listened to SACDs in your own home.

dave weil wrote:

My rules...

Thanks Weil for admitting that you want to rule the group.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:26:42 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

dave weil wrote:

My rules...

Thanks Weil for admitting that you want to rule the group.

Nope. You certainly can't read, can you?

My "rules" allow people to actually offer their opinions without a lot
of strings attached. This of course is in the charter. There's nothing
in the charter about "objectivism". In fact, the word that they use is
SUBJECTIVE.

So, you've been violating the charter since the beginning.

Finally, your comments about the Pioneer unit and the Marantz unit are
tossed out by your own criteria.

"ScottW" wrote

I wish I knew who the coward was which has generated
two complaints to my ISP in the past week.
Asshole doesn't even have the guts to complain
in person but uses a web robot called SpamCop.

Your ISP was only covering itself by contacting you.
I wouldn’t sweat it. An anonymous complaint wouldn’t
be grounds for terminating your contracted service
unless the tech verified that the substance of the
complaint clearly violated the terms and conditions of
their service.

If they are making a serious threat to terminate your
service talk to a supervisor or general manager about
the situation. You maybe over-reacting. It wouldn’t be
the first time .


What can I say, once I felt the group could be a
cool audio group. Since then I've been corrupted
into free discussion. Now I've been banished as
a consequence.

Do you mean self-imposted banishment?


If this asshole keeps it up, some of you guys won't
have anyone to insult. Then what will you do?

Why, is Arny going somewhere?


Well I had some laughs. Take care all, friend or foe.

Before you take a powder, would you give us a status
on your USEnet case filing against Arny... dismissed,
withdrawn or in process?

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:43:02 -0500, "Powell"
wrote:

Well I had some laughs. Take care all, friend or foe.

Before you take a powder, would you give us a status
on your USEnet case filing against Arny... dismissed,
withdrawn or in process?

Different Scott.

dave weil wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:26:42 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

dave weil wrote:

My rules...

Thanks Weil for admitting that you want to rule the group.

My "rules" ...

Thanks Weil for again admitting that you want to rule the group.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:12:18 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

dave weil wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:26:42 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

dave weil wrote:

My rules...

Thanks Weil for admitting that you want to rule the group.

My "rules" ...

Thanks Weil for again admitting that you want to rule the group.

Once again, you can't seem to read.

You're like the willful child screaming in the corner of the sandbox.

Your family certainly should be proud.

dave weil wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:12:18 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

dave weil wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:26:42 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

dave weil wrote:

My rules...

Thanks Weil for admitting that you want to rule the group.

My "rules" ...

Thanks Weil for again admitting that you want to rule the group.

Once again, you can't seem to read.

Sure I can read Weil. You are hung up on your rules. You want your rules to
dictate how this group operates.

I guess I'll have to tell you how life is one more time. Usenet is a
marketplace of ideas. People who have ideas present them and people judge
them and act on them as they will. The only rule is that there are no rules.
BTW, all generalizations are still false.

Powell wrote:
"ScottW" wrote


I wish I knew who the coward was which has generated
two complaints to my ISP in the past week.
Asshole doesn't even have the guts to complain
in person but uses a web robot called SpamCop.


Your ISP was only covering itself by contacting you.
I wouldn’t sweat it. An anonymous complaint wouldn’t
be grounds for terminating your contracted service
unless the tech verified that the substance of the
complaint clearly violated the terms and conditions of
their service.

If they are making a serious threat to terminate your
service talk to a supervisor or general manager about
the situation. You maybe over-reacting. It wouldn’t be
the first time .

You are not exactly right here.
I have been banished from my ISP in february for the same reasons than
Scott same "SpamCop" robot, and same frustration.
I have sent 100 mails, a registered letter, phoned several time and the
only solution they proposed me was to create a new account with an other
name... Just need to pay a new subscription...
I answered them that they should look for an other sheep to shear. )






What can I say, once I felt the group could be a
cool audio group. Since then I've been corrupted
into free discussion. Now I've been banished as
a consequence.


Do you mean self-imposted banishment?



If this asshole keeps it up, some of you guys won't
have anyone to insult. Then what will you do?


Why, is Arny going somewhere?



Well I had some laughs. Take care all, friend or foe.


Before you take a powder, would you give us a status
on your USEnet case filing against Arny... dismissed,
withdrawn or in process?

He is not the good Scott this one is ScottW and the judge's son is
S888Wheel (AKA Scott Wheeler).
Memory trouble sir ?

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:30:41 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

dave weil wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:12:18 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

dave weil wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:26:42 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

dave weil wrote:

My rules...

Thanks Weil for admitting that you want to rule the group.

My "rules" ...

Thanks Weil for again admitting that you want to rule the group.

Once again, you can't seem to read.

Sure I can read Weil. You are hung up on your rules. You want your rules to
dictate how this group operates.

I guess I'll have to tell you how life is one more time. Usenet is a
marketplace of ideas. People who have ideas present them and people judge
them and act on them as they will. The only rule is that there are no rules.
BTW, all generalizations are still false.

Thanks for pointing out that your comments are false.

"Lionel" wrote

I wish I knew who the coward was which has generated
two complaints to my ISP in the past week.
Asshole doesn't even have the guts to complain
in person but uses a web robot called SpamCop.


Your ISP was only covering itself by contacting you.
I wouldn’t sweat it. An anonymous complaint wouldn’t
be grounds for terminating your contracted service
unless the tech verified that the substance of the
complaint clearly violated the terms and conditions of
their service.

If they are making a serious threat to terminate your
service talk to a supervisor or general manager about
the situation. You maybe over-reacting. It wouldn’t be
the first time .

You are not exactly right here.
I have been banished from my ISP in february for the same
reasons than Scott same "SpamCop" robot, and same frustration.
I have sent 100 mails, a registered letter, phoned several time
and the only solution they proposed me was to create a new
account with an other name... Just need to pay a new subscription...
I answered them that they should look for an other sheep to shear. )

Two ugly job duties at ISP services... clearing spam
off the server and responding to e-mail complaints.

"dave weil" wrote

Well I had some laughs. Take care all, friend or foe.

Before you take a powder, would you give us a status
on your USEnet case filing against Arny... dismissed,
withdrawn or in process?

Different Scott.

Meaculpa. So Dave, what is the latest gossip
on the filing?

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:04:17 -0500, "Powell"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote

Well I had some laughs. Take care all, friend or foe.

Before you take a powder, would you give us a status
on your USEnet case filing against Arny... dismissed,
withdrawn or in process?

Different Scott.

Meaculpa. So Dave, what is the latest gossip
on the filing?

I couldn't tell you. Not because I *won't* tell you but because I have
no idea. I'm not tuned into the "gossip", as you term it. The last
thing that I saw posted about it was that it was postponed due to some
clerical error.

Oh yeah, apropos to nothing, I'm going to see Elvis Costello in
Oxford, Mississippi in a little 250 capacity club Friday and Saturday.
I kid you not, the room that the stage is in is about 15 ft X by 20ft
(there are a sum total of four tables in that space, tables that will
be removed for the show), and the stage takes up a third of that. Only
about 70 people are actually going to be able to squeeze in that area
- the rest are going to overflow areas alike the bar and a room where
there's no sightline at all. The shows are a rehearsal for new
material that he's recording in Oxford next week.

"dave weil" wrote in message
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:04:17 -0500, "Powell"

Oh yeah, apropos to nothing, I'm going to see Elvis Costello in
Oxford, Mississippi in a little 250 capacity club Friday and Saturday.
I kid you not, the room that the stage is in is about 15 ft X by 20ft
(there are a sum total of four tables in that space, tables that will
be removed for the show), and the stage takes up a third of that. Only
about 70 people are actually going to be able to squeeze in that area
- the rest are going to overflow areas alike the bar and a room where
there's no sightline at all. The shows are a rehearsal for new
material that he's recording in Oxford next week.

Of all the gin joints in all the world, why on earth did Elvis Costello pick
Oxford, Mississippi? Is he a William Faulkner fan?

From: "ScottW"
Date: 3/30/2004 10:36 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: OVrac.12751$Rh.4525@fed1read05



I wish I knew who the coward was which has generated two
complaints to my ISP in the past week.
Asshole doesn't even have the guts to complain
in person but uses a web robot called SpamCop.

snip

Does reading this "Subject:" line give you any ideas on the ID of the asshole?

http://tinyurl.com/ysa3n

This vile POS is none too fond of Lionel, either. Coincidence or pattern?

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:15:04 -0600, "Schizoid Man"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:04:17 -0500, "Powell"

Oh yeah, apropos to nothing, I'm going to see Elvis Costello in
Oxford, Mississippi in a little 250 capacity club Friday and Saturday.
I kid you not, the room that the stage is in is about 15 ft X by 20ft
(there are a sum total of four tables in that space, tables that will
be removed for the show), and the stage takes up a third of that. Only
about 70 people are actually going to be able to squeeze in that area
- the rest are going to overflow areas alike the bar and a room where
there's no sightline at all. The shows are a rehearsal for new
material that he's recording in Oxford next week.

Of all the gin joints in all the world, why on earth did Elvis Costello pick
Oxford, Mississippi? Is he a William Faulkner fan?

He's been planning a "southern recording and playing tour" for a
while. He wanted to "soak up local culture" and play some tiny dives.
He's had to scale back his plans though. Otherwise you would have
probably seen him in Austin. Thing is, he heads for Europe toward the
end of April.

He's going to be recording at the place where Buddy Guy made the album
Sweet Tea. Apparently, the producer of those sessions is named Dennis
Herring, and he's worked with Camper Van Beethoven and Cracker before.
Elvis' new bass player, Davey Faragher, is a veteran of both groups
and apparently referred him.

Oh yeah, I ran into both Elvis and Steve Nieve on the street when I
was picking up tickets there yesterday. They seem to be enjoying the
languid ambience. I think that the charm of the place had to do with
some of the decision. I'm sure Davey had nice things to say about the
unpretentiousness of the place, and the Town Square is very reminicent
of High Street in any decent sized British town. I'm sure he feels
right at home.

Richard Malesweski said:

I wish I knew who the coward was which has generated two
complaints to my ISP in the past week.
Asshole doesn't even have the guts to complain
in person but uses a web robot called SpamCop.

snip

Does reading this "Subject:" line give you any ideas on the ID of the
asshole?

http://tinyurl.com/ysa3n

This vile POS is none too fond of Lionel, either. Coincidence or pattern?

Oh boy. Another conspiracy theory from our resident Internet geek. Aren't you
0 for 43 on these type of idiotic claims?

LOL!

Boon

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
[snip]

I guess I'll have to tell you how life is one more time. Usenet is a
marketplace of ideas. People who have ideas present them and people judge
them and act on them as they will. The only rule is that there are no
rules.
BTW, all generalizations are still false.

Such as "all properly operating amplifiers sound the same" ?

"dave weil" wrote in message
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:15:04 -0600, "Schizoid Man"
wrote:

Of all the gin joints in all the world, why on earth did Elvis Costello
pick
Oxford, Mississippi? Is he a William Faulkner fan?

He's been planning a "southern recording and playing tour" for a
while. He wanted to "soak up local culture" and play some tiny dives.
He's had to scale back his plans though. Otherwise you would have
probably seen him in Austin. Thing is, he heads for Europe toward the
end of April.


Yeah. SxSW just wrapped up last week and I'm not sure whether he came down
for it. Saw a couple of bands, most notable of which was - for the sheer
nostalgia value alone - Joan Jett and her Blackhearts. They sure don't make
rock bands like the used to.


Oh yeah, I ran into both Elvis and Steve Nieve on the street when I
was picking up tickets there yesterday. They seem to be enjoying the
languid ambience. I think that the charm of the place had to do with
some of the decision. I'm sure Davey had nice things to say about the
unpretentiousness of the place, and the Town Square is very reminicent
of High Street in any decent sized British town. I'm sure he feels
right at home.


The only thing I know about Oxford is that William Faulkner wrote The Sound
and The Fury while living there. This is a good year to see some acts.
Coming soon through Texas - David Bowie, Peter Frampton, Styx, Rush, Van
Halen and Eric Clapton. Not bad for one summer.

The Artist said:



"Powell" emitted :

I wish I knew who the coward was which has generated
two complaints to my ISP in the past week.
Asshole doesn't even have the guts to complain
in person but uses a web robot called SpamCop.

Your ISP was only covering itself by contacting you.
I wouldnt sweat it. An anonymous complaint wouldnt
be grounds for terminating your contracted service
unless the tech verified that the substance of the
complaint clearly violated the terms and conditions of
their service.

If they are making a serious threat to terminate your
service talk to a supervisor or general manager about
the situation. You maybe over-reacting. It wouldnt be
the first time .

IME most ISP's will only take a cursory glance at initial complaints,
probably issue a warning without too much consideration - but will
make a more of a concerted effort to defend an account holder if they
kick up a fuss. You might be able to turn this around. I have had
warnings retracted, complainants and domains blacklisted.

Agreed. AOL once tried to slap my wrists because I used the word "****" here,
and I sent back an e-mail saying how hypocritical they were being since they
allowed spam e-mail containing the very same word in the subject headers. I
haven't heard from AOL since, even though I know for a fact that a couple of
other people have tried reporting me to my ISP.

FWIW, Scott, don't worry about it. Getting kicked off your ISP is a badge of
honor around here. Just ask Arny.

Boon

In article ,
"Schizoid Man" wrote:

The only thing I know about Oxford is that William Faulkner wrote The Sound
and The Fury while living there. This is a good year to see some acts.
Coming soon through Texas - David Bowie, Peter Frampton, Styx, Rush, Van
Halen and Eric Clapton. Not bad for one summer.

In 1979! :-)

Stephen

Lionel wrote

snip


What about a member of the "liberal-left-gay-lobby" ?


Wouldn't that include just about everyone here?

From: The Artist
Date: 3/31/2004 3:34 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

"Powell" emitted :

I wish I knew who the coward was which has generated
two complaints to my ISP in the past week.
Asshole doesn't even have the guts to complain
in person but uses a web robot called SpamCop.

Your ISP was only covering itself by contacting you.
I wouldnt sweat it. An anonymous complaint wouldnt
be grounds for terminating your contracted service
unless the tech verified that the substance of the
complaint clearly violated the terms and conditions of
their service.

If they are making a serious threat to terminate your
service talk to a supervisor or general manager about
the situation. You maybe over-reacting. It wouldnt be
the first time .

IME most ISP's will only take a cursory glance at initial complaints,
probably issue a warning without too much consideration - but will
make a more of a concerted effort to defend an account holder if they
kick up a fuss. You might be able to turn this around. I have had
warnings retracted, complainants and domains blacklisted.


--
S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t

From: The Artist
Date: 3/31/2004 5:20 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

"Marc Phillips" emitted :

Agreed. AOL once tried to slap my wrists because I used the word "****"
here,
and I sent back an e-mail saying how hypocritical they were being since they
allowed spam e-mail containing the very same word in the subject headers.

Oh my gosh.. not the word "****!" That really is tremendously
offensive in the 21st Century. Heck, the word "****" can sometimes be
heard on kids TV here in the UK :-)

I haven't heard from AOL since, even though I know for a fact that a couple
of
other people have tried reporting me to my ISP.

Likewise with my ISP.

FWIW, Scott, don't worry about it. Getting kicked off your ISP is a badge
of
honor around here. Just ask Arny.

Plenty more fish...


--
S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t

From: (Marc "Porky" Phillips)
Date: 3/31/2004 2:37 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

snip


Does reading this "Subject:" line give you any ideas on the ID of the
asshole?

http://tinyurl.com/ysa3n

This vile POS is none too fond of Lionel, either. Coincidence or pattern?

Oh boy. Another conspiracy theory

"Conspiracy theory", Porky??

Look at:

http://tinyurl.com/32rfz

Where does what I suggest fit *any* of the definitions of "conspiracy", you
fat dunce?

from our resident Internet geek.

"internet geek", fatass?

Lessee, according to Google:

http://tinyurl.com/3fjo4

and

http://tinyurl.com/2c44b

you have outposted me by about 5 to 1 ("over 250" to "53") since 1/1/04,
Fatboy. Who is the real "internet geek", Porky???

ROTFLAYFUA (rolling on the floor laughing at your fat ugly ass)!

Aren't
I
0 for 43 on these types of idiotic claims?

LOL!

Porky Phillips

Yep. ;-)

Richard Malesweski said:

From: (Marc "Porky" Phillips)
Date: 3/31/2004 2:37 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

snip


Does reading this "Subject:" line give you any ideas on the ID of the
asshole?

http://tinyurl.com/ysa3n

This vile POS is none too fond of Lionel, either. Coincidence or pattern?

Oh boy. Another conspiracy theory

"Conspiracy theory", Porky??

Look at:

http://tinyurl.com/32rfz

Where does what I suggest fit *any* of the definitions of "conspiracy", you
fat dunce?

from our resident Internet geek.

"internet geek", fatass?

Lessee, according to Google:

http://tinyurl.com/3fjo4

and

http://tinyurl.com/2c44b

you have outposted me by about 5 to 1 ("over 250" to "53") since 1/1/04,
Fatboy. Who is the real "internet geek", Porky???

ROTFLAYFUA (rolling on the floor laughing at your fat ugly ass)!

Aren't
I
0 for 43 on these types of idiotic claims?

LOL!

Porky Phillips

Yep. ;-)

I looked at the above at least twice, and I still really can't find any
semblance of a rebuttal to what I said. Like you've been told by others here,
your act has gotten really old, and your toothlessness has become quite the
source of amusement.

Funny how Arny has devolved in pretty much the same way. No one gives a ****
anymore; it's just too pathetic for words.

Boon

Richard Malesweski said:

From: (Marc "Porky" Phillips)

After seeing you use this feeble taunt for the umpteenth million time, it
finally occured to me...you're the one who's fat! No thin, healthy, fit person
would obsess over this like you do. We've already established that you're a
self-hating Internet geek, so this makes perfect sense. Only a fat person
would believe that the best way to hurt someone is to call them fat, too! I
can't believe I didn't see this before!

So, Dick, what are you? 250? 300? More?

LOL!

Boon

From: (Torresists)


nothing



Good post, Malesweski, you fag! You're such a gutless prick.

How's life after Eckstrom? Still crying every night?

Where are you now, Tampa? Having trouble making a go there too? You such a
total Loser! Go **** yourself and die.

From: (Torresists)


nothing


try number two........... FAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: (Torresists)

Does reading this "Subject:" line give you any ideas on the ID of the
asshole?

http://tinyurl.com/ysa3n

This vile POS is none too fond of Lionel, either. Coincidence or pattern?



At least you posted something this time, dickless.

You're goddamm Dick Tracy, aren't you? You have your own rules, don't you,
Dick? Complaining to an ISP is bad, but what you do is OK. You're ****ed in
the head, Dick. But at least you have a high opinion of yourself, don't you.

Where to after Tampa? Is it Tampa, dick, or some other Florida town?

How's the A/V biz? LOL!!!!!!!!

FAG!!!!!!!!

Lionel wrote:

What about a member of the "liberal-left-gay-lobby" ?


Nope -- I didn't do it!

"ScottW" wrote in message news:OVrac.12751$Rh.4525@fed1read05...
I wish I knew who the coward was which has generated two
complaints to my ISP in the past week.
Asshole doesn't even have the guts to complain
in person but uses a web robot called SpamCop.

What can I say, once I felt the group could be a
cool audio group. Since then I've been corrupted
into free discussion. Now I've been banished as
a consequence.

Wow. What a swan song!

Funny thing - I got six complaints to my ISP about political posts
between late February and August 29. The substance of the complaints
accused me of posting "spam ads" - as in "advertising". My ISP saw
through it immediately. The complainer also used "SpamCop", so it's
fair to assume it's all from the same person.

Reviewing the posts complained of, the main critics posting objections
to my posts were McKelvy and Pyjamarama. So I naturally assumed it
was one of them. Then I see this and whoever's bitching about me is
also bitching about the Terriorborg, who shares most of their bizarre
political beliefs. Very strange, indeed.

Bottom line - I wasn't "booted" by my ISP - but I did receive a call
from their security department March 29 about a virus on my hard drive
which was attaching itself to outgoing e-mail. So I was "disconnected
for two weeks while I found a repair tech who came to my home and
removed the virus. I'm "connected" again with the same ISP.

So I have to wonder if the Terriorborg was really "booted" or was just
feeling bruised and battered here after so many months of his
loony-tunes posting and the reactions they received - so much so that
a few complaints to his ISP caused him to scamper off with his tail
between his legs.

Anyone else get similar complaints recently through "SpamCop" (which
conceals the complainer's identity/e-mail/ISP address)?

I wrote:

I got six complaints to my ISP about political posts
between late February and August 29.

Make that "late February and March 29".

I've been listening to more music lately on various audio systems in the
house - in particular, music for the baby's benefit, because it's now old
enough, at almost 18 weeks, to hear sounds/music outside the womb. We're
also making a point of not watching any movies or listening to any music
with loud crashing sounds, which can be disturbing to a fetus at this stage
of life.

I've also been perusing recent issues of Stereophile for a change (I'd lost
interest for awhile, and even allowed my subscription to Stereophile Guide
to Home Theater elapse) and have been thinking back about what brought me to
RAO in the first place in the spring of 1996. About that time I'd lost all
interest in the "it all sounds the same" audio reviews in Stereo Review and
Audio magazine (now both defunct) and realized I finally "got it" about the
reviews in Stereophile, which I'd been reading since August, 1991.

It was a huge disappointment to me to find that RAO had already, by the
spring of 1996 been infected with one of the ABX propagandists which was
destroying the audio pages of AOL at the time. Despite numerous good
people, genuinely interested in audio quality and a diversity of audio
equipment, the ABX cancer spread on RAO for years, turning RAO into more of
a ng for flamefests than anything else.

Not much has changed, as jj (Jim Johnston) - one who formerly posted here
regularly - recently reminded me in several e-mails this week - the only
difference this past year is that politics has been injected into the
flamewars. As he originally asked, "doesn't anyone discuss audio on RAO any
more?" The few who do post about audio are pretty much ignored, as the
flaming goes on and on, whether about politics or personalities.

So I suppose I'm going to take jj's approach and stand by until and only if
I see a major transformation in behavior on this ng and hope for the day
that RAO will be a useful forum for discussing people's subjective opinions
about audio equipment and music played back on it. Hopefully, the political
posts I've put up during the past year have not only been educational, but
have helped a few people begin thinking critically for a change, and that
this will help them think critically about audio subjects as well.

I'll probably pop in from time to time with my new "Seabiscuit" handle - to
see what's going on - because the technician who removed the virus on my
computer set me up with this new handle with a fictitious e-mail address to
prevent spammers from harvesting my real e-mail address here (and on other
ng's) - and indeed, since I've been using it, the spam cluttering my e-mail
in-box has indeed diminished significantly.

Of course, the new handle doesn't prevent the cowardly dweeb using SpamCop
from complaining to my ISP - because the ISP number hasn't changed. Indeed,
I've received 5 new complaints from this cowardly idiot in the first week
since returning to RAO. It appears I'm being singled out and stalked by
this twerp.

There's only one poster here who appears to have the lack of character and
the warped personality and the juvenile personal animosity towards me to be
motivated generate these SpamCop complaints - Scott Wittevrongel. I don't
believe for a minute that he received any such complaints himself. There are
numerous pieces of evidence supporting this conclusion. His original post
on the subject of ISP complaints was nothing more than a troll to attract
people like me to comment so he could generate even more complaints. In
addition, the fact that the first SpamCop complaint Lionel's ISP received
indicated his denouncer was Scott W, lends even more credence to this
conclusion.

My ISP isn't terminating my account, but I don't feel like having them
bothered by the Terrierdork's cowardly SpamCop compaints either, and I'm
tired of hearing about it.

So with that I bid thee all adieu until we meet again. I've got my hands
full with numerous real-life matters right now, and I've pretty much said
all I've felt I needed to say on RAO.

Those of you who still count me as a friend are always welcome to e-mail me.

Jim S.


"Lionel" wrote in message
...
Sandman - - dimanche 18
Avril 2004 02:06 wrote:

I have been banished from my ISP in February.
The first delation messages on SpamCop attempted to make me believe that
ScottW was my denunciator, the last ones were without real specific
characteristics.

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:30:52 GMT, "Seabiscuit"
wrote:

Not much has changed, as jj (Jim Johnston) - one who formerly posted here
regularly - recently reminded me in several e-mails this week - the only
difference this past year is that politics has been injected into the
flamewars. As he originally asked, "doesn't anyone discuss audio on RAO any
more?" The few who do post about audio are pretty much ignored, as the
flaming goes on and on, whether about politics or personalities.

I generally like what you have to say but come on man, no one has
introduced more political threads than you. RAO is a place where
people interested in audio come to exchange opinions. Often that's
about things that aren't audio-related. Because they share a similar
interest, sometimes their opinions on other things are on the same
wavelength, even if they're disagreeable. For my part, I know it's
unscientific, but I feel like I get a better understanding of what
typical Americans must be thinking from reading RAO than from reading
the New York Times's occasional stories about public opinion. As for
ABX, it is opinion.

Yes RAO has been more diffuse than usual lately, but that's because
politics has become so divisive and crisis-ridden. Usenet has always
been a source of political news, and not just in political newsgroups.

--

Jacob Kramer

Jacob Kramer a écrit :

For my part, I know it's
unscientific, but I feel like I get a better understanding of what
typical Americans must be thinking from reading RAO than from reading
the New York Times's occasional stories about public opinion. As for
ABX, it is opinion.

Unscientific ? Too simple ?
I don't care. Thank you for explain it for me. ;-)

Lionel

Jacob Kramer wrote:


Yes RAO has been more diffuse than usual lately, but that's because
politics has become so divisive and crisis-ridden. Usenet has always
been a source of political news, and not just in political newsgroups.

Nahh, the underlying cause of the sea change in RAO is the fact that home
audio as RAO knew it is dying as a hobby. It's dying at least as fast as the
baby-boomers who made it what it was. The death of Zip was a benchmark.
Home audio as it was in the bye-and-bye was based on a fundamental
activity - time dedicated to listening to recordings of music in a place
that was essentially dedicated to, or at least optimized for the purpose.
Those days are passing very quickly.

Since RAO long appealed to some of the more superficial minds in audio, it
is simply among the first to disintegrate as an audio forum. It still has
verbiage, but ever since the ascendance of Singh and Middius, the actual
audio content has been falling precipitously.