"George M. Middius" wrote in message
...


Art, you've been struggling and straining to put forth your, uh, views
on (against) gay marriage. In the process, you've bent over backward
to protest that you're not a bigot, that all you want is separate but
equal. You've also said the "institution" of marriage should be viewed
differently from other flashpoints of civil rights, that it's not an
issue of religion, that you have gay friends, and so forth.

You've also made several inflammatory comments, such as your infamous
"you're not equal to me" line, and your clumsily self-mocking
"Straight people are normal, and heterosexuals are abnormal." And you
foolishly expanded on the "abnormal" theme, using the word several
more times in the process. What's truly astonishing to those of us who
view you as a reasonable person is your repeated use of "abnormal" and
"not equal" as if you were discussing a chemistry experiment.

Several people have tried reasoning with you, some have tried parsing
your actual thoughts, and others have mocked and derided you. What we
see, but what you've so far refused to admit, is that your "opinion"
is purely emotional and has zero intellectual content. What that
"opinion" amounts to is nothing more than "marriage is defined as
between a man and a woman". Your defense of that "opinion" has only
been "that's the way it's always been". These are not intellectual or
political arguments; they are purely emotional.

You also seem to want your opponents on this issue to give you a
break. You've used the wishy-washy "not as bad as certain others"
argument because you're in favor of civil unions as a substitute for
marriage. You've tried hiding from the argument entirely by claiming
that Senator Kerry has the same position you have, as if that would
somehow shield your "opinion" from scrutiny. We all know politicians
are not known for being truthful. Is that the company you want to
keep?

I'll tell you how you can get the break you want: Just admit your
"opinion" is purely emotional, that it's simply the way you feel, and
you can't help it, and you don't want to change it. Then shut up about
it. See what I mean? Your position is indefensible on logical,
political, or religious grounds, but you've tried repeatedly to defend
it on all of them. You've failed miserably. The only company in which
you'd find support is one where they share your core beliefs -- such
as that the division of "normal" versus "abnormal" SHOULD be part of
politics. You won't get that here, except from throwbacks like
Krooger.

So that's my advice. Take it or leave it. We all have prejudices. Most
of us have learned that purely emotional biases are better left
unspoken. This is one such case.

In Socky's case, his prejudices are purely irrational, which is why he can't
defend them any better than he has.

See:

http://www.democraticunderground.com.../06_legal.html

From: George M. Middius

Art, you've been struggling and straining to put forth your, uh, views
on (against) gay marriage. In the process, you've bent over backward
to protest that you're not a bigot, that all you want is separate but
equal

(snip)

Well said. Soon as Mr Yustabe can 'fess up to his feelings without being
judgemental about their cause, I'll lay off his fat ass . . .

Professor Midnite

Professor Midnite seconded:

Art, you've been struggling and straining to put forth your, uh, views
on (against) gay marriage. In the process, you've bent over backward
to protest that you're not a bigot, that all you want is separate but
equal

Well said. Soon as Mr Yustabe can 'fess up to his feelings without being
judgemental about their cause, I'll lay off his fat ass . . .

Who are you kidding? You and the Mid-Yut are one and the same.
The deliberate misspelling of the word judgmental fools no one.
The fat, little gimp fantasizing he's a big, bad bro' ... har-dee-har-har.

Professor Midnite is now (and forever) dismissed.


GeoSynch

"George M. Middius" wrote in message
...


Art, you've been struggling and straining to put forth your, uh, views
on (against) gay marriage. In the process, you've bent over backward
to protest that you're not a bigot, that all you want is separate but
equal. You've also said the "institution" of marriage should be viewed
differently from other flashpoints of civil rights, that it's not an
issue of religion, that you have gay friends, and so forth.
[snip]
You've failed miserably. The only company in which
you'd find support is one where they share your core beliefs -- such
as that the division of "normal" versus "abnormal" SHOULD be part of
politics. You won't get that here, except from throwbacks like
Krooger.

So that's my advice. Take it or leave it. We all have prejudices. Most
of us have learned that purely emotional biases are better left
unspoken. This is one such case.

Art's prejudices are more general than that. He also dislikes people with
high IQ's who don't revere their guitar teachers.
Art is the verbal champion of Joe and Mary SixPack.

From: "GeoSynch"

Who are you kidding? You and the Mid-Yut are one and the same.

Tell ya what, mother ****er. Are you local? I live in Philadelphia and I'm not
who you think I am. You wanna meet me? As long as you give me your word not to
reveal my name or where I teach, I'll meet you in Philly and you can tell folks
all about it.

Professor Midnite

The Prof' poofed:

Who are you kidding? You and the Mid-Yut are one and the same.

Tell ya what, mother ****er. Are you local? I live in Philadelphia and I'm not
who you think I am. You wanna meet me? As long as you give me your word not to
reveal my name or where I teach, I'll meet you in Philly and you can tell folks
all about it.

So, you're a purported Philly spade teacher with a seven-figure net worth who has only
posted on r.a.o. and nowhere else starting on 2/21/04? Your story is quickly falling apart.


GeoSynch

From: "GeoSynch"

So, you're a purported Philly spade teacher with a seven-figure net worth who
has only
posted on r.a.o. and nowhere else starting on 2/21/04? Your story is quickly
falling apart.

I haven't posted anywhere on usenet before with this handle. Didn't know that
being anonymous would be this much fun.

Tell ya what. Wanna meet me? Come to the Pennsylvania Convention Center this
Friday at 11 in the morning. If not, given that we plan to kick up a good
rumpus, you might check for the story in the Philadelphia Enquirer online
Saturday morning, March 13th..

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/

If they get the picture of me in a wedding dress I hope they get, you' just
might understand how very pretty I am. :-)

Professor Midnite

The Prof' preened:

I haven't posted anywhere on usenet before with this handle. Didn't know that
being anonymous would be this much fun.

Tell ya what. Wanna meet me? Come to the Pennsylvania Convention Center this
Friday at 11 in the morning. If not, given that we plan to kick up a good
rumpus, you might check for the story in the Philadelphia Enquirer online
Saturday morning, March 13th..

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/

If they get the picture of me in a wedding dress I hope they get, you' just
might understand how very pretty I am. :-)

RuPaul ain't got nuthin' on you, eh sugar? ;-)


GeoSynch

From: "GeoSynch"

RuPaul ain't got nuthin' on you, eh sugar? ;-)

I'm bigger across the shoulders, and possibly elsewhere.

PM

The Prof' strutted:

RuPaul ain't got nuthin' on you, eh sugar? ;-)

I'm bigger across the shoulders, and possibly elsewhere.

Your lips and/or mouth?


GeoSynch

GeoSynch wrote:

The Prof' preened:
If they get the picture of me in a wedding dress I hope they get, you' just
might understand how very pretty I am. :-)


RuPaul ain't got nuthin' on you, eh sugar? ;-)

Richard Simmons in a dress could do better than Ru Paul.

From: "GeoSynch"

Your lips and/or mouth?

Anybody here have enough pull to get this boy a spot on the next Jerry Lewis
Telethon?

Professor Midnite

"Professor Midnite" wrote in message
...
From: "GeoSynch"

Who are you kidding? You and the Mid-Yut are one and the same.

Tell ya what, mother ****er. Are you local? I live in Philadelphia and
I'm not
who you think I am. You wanna meet me? As long as you give me your word
not to
reveal my name or where I teach,

Why?
Are you that embarrassed about your behavior here?

ScottW

From: "ScottW"

Why?
Are you that embarrassed about your behavior here?


My but you *do* have a problem, son. We already talked about people who don't
have the balls to express themselves directly so they come up with these
passive little questions that aren't questions. So here's a *real question*: If
you don't like me, do you have the guts to just cut loose your right-wing
racist-ass self and stop hiding behind that 'Some of my own family are
multiracial' **** (none of them are Black, I bet) and express yourself
honestly? I doubt it, but I would prefer it.

Now here's an example so you can follow the format. Instead of my saying, "Have
you considered having intimate relations with yourself?" I'd simply say:

"**** off, cracker!"

See? Try it. You might even be able to sit on the john and take that ****
you've needed to take for goin' on a week now.
Like Sammy Davis sort of said; "Yes you can!"

Professor Midnite

"Professor Midnite" wrote in message
...
From: "ScottW"

Why?
Are you that embarrassed about your behavior here?


My but you *do* have a problem, son. We already talked about people who
don't
have the balls to express themselves directly

Here's a direct expression. You're arrogant and foul mouthed.
I don't care for your attitude.
I seriously doubt you're who you claim to be.

so they come up with these
passive little questions that aren't questions. So here's a *real
question*: If
you don't like me, do you have the guts to just cut loose your right-wing
racist-ass self and stop hiding behind that 'Some of my own family are
multiracial' **** (none of them are Black, I bet)

You are wrong, just another example of your prejudice.

and express yourself
honestly? I doubt it, but I would prefer it.

Now here's an example so you can follow the format. Instead of my saying,
"Have
you considered having intimate relations with yourself?" I'd simply say:

"**** off, cracker!"

See? Try it. You might even be able to sit on the john and take that ****
you've needed to take for goin' on a week now.
Like Sammy Davis sort of said; "Yes you can!"

I'm not interested in satisfying your obviously desperate
needs for amusement.

ScottW

From: "ScottW"

Here's a direct expression. You're arrogant and foul mouthed.
I don't care for your attitude.
I seriously doubt you're who you claim to be.

Much better. Well done. Bravo, in fact. You learned something.

And I, in turn, couldn't give a flying **** about your opinion of me though I
do respect your right to hold it.


I'm not interested in satisfying your obviously desperate
needs for amusement.

Even though the expression states an unverified and unverifiable assumption
about me as if it were fact, I'm pleased you're talking straight at last. And
this, cracker, despite that you're a goose-stepping flag-waving right-wing
****-bag who knows less about Black folks than I do about French cuisine which
is absolutely nothing at all.

So **** off and do your thing, or do your thing and **** off. Doesn't matter to
me which order you choose. You've learned something from me and that makes me
happy. Keep it up. State your piece and you'll keep on growing strong and
proud!

You're dismissed.

Professor Midnite

"Professor Midnite" wrote in message
...
From: "ScottW"

Here's a direct expression. You're arrogant and foul mouthed.
I don't care for your attitude.
I seriously doubt you're who you claim to be.

Much better. Well done. Bravo, in fact. You learned something.

And I, in turn, couldn't give a flying **** about your opinion of me
though I
do respect your right to hold it.


I'm not interested in satisfying your obviously desperate
needs for amusement.

Even though the expression states an unverified and unverifiable
assumption
about me as if it were fact, I'm pleased you're talking straight at last.
And
this, cracker, despite that you're a goose-stepping flag-waving
right-wing
****-bag who knows less about Black folks than I do

You don't know anything about me beyond your prejudiced
assumptions.

Your problem is your just as if not more guilty than many of the
crimes you despise.

ScottW

From: "ScottW"

Your problem is your just as if not more guilty than many of the
crimes you despise.

ROFLMAO!!!!!

I was gonna leave your silly white ass alone, but a sentence as ****ed up as
that one tells me that you're *beggin;* for me, ain't you. Want me to take that
sweet little ass cherry of yours, Scottie? My oh my! The thought of a big black
buck like me has you losing control of them fingers and forgetting everything
you learned since second grade grammar school, don't it.
Read your sentence again, Scottie. Real slow. And then do your ass a favor and
give it a ****in' rest, fool.

We done, son.

Too funny.

Professor Midnite

"Professor Midnite" wrote in message
...
From: "ScottW"

Your problem is your just as if not more guilty than many of the
crimes you despise.

ROFLMAO!!!!!

I was gonna leave your silly white ass alone, but a sentence as ****ed up
as
that one tells me that you're *beggin;* for me, ain't you. Want me to
take that
sweet little ass cherry of yours, Scottie? My oh my! The thought of a big
black
buck like me has you losing control of them fingers and forgetting
everything
you learned since second grade grammar school, don't it.
Read your sentence again, Scottie. Real slow. And then do your ass a
favor and
give it a ****in' rest, fool.

The trapped intellectual idiot will use any avenue of escape.

Your problem is you're just as, if not more, guilty than many of the
crimes you despise.

Better Mr. grammar checker?

BTW, this is usenet. Your size, race, etc.
really have no bearing on anything.
I would think someone of your intellectual stature would
realize that resorting to physical intimidation as you obviously
try in the real world leave you a smaller man here.

ScottW

"Yeasty Cock-Slimmer" wrote in message
news:c7bn401rjhnaccts0770jds6kb0tl9v0dl@rdmzrnewst xt.nz...
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 15:03:06 -0800, "ScottW"
wrote:

Your problem is you're just as, if not more, guilty than many of the
crimes you despise.

Better Mr. grammar checker?

Er, no. That doesn't make sense at all.

Maybe this will help.

Your problem is you're just as, if not more, guilty than many
people of the crimes you despise.

or this

Your problem is you're just as guilty of the crimes you
despise as many people. You may even be more guilty.

Do you need more?

ScottW

"Yeasty Cock-Slimmer" wrote in message
news:c7bn401rjhnaccts0770jds6kb0tl9v0dl@rdmzrnews txt.nz...
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 15:03:06 -0800, "ScottW"
wrote:

Your problem is you're just as, if not more, guilty than many of the
crimes you despise.

Better Mr. grammar checker?

Er, no. That doesn't make sense at all.

Maybe this will help.

Your problem is you're just as, if not more, guilty than many
people of the crimes you despise.

or this

Your problem is you're just as guilty of the crimes you
despise as many people. You may even be more guilty.

Do you need more?

ScottW








I would go this way. Your problem is you are just as guilty, if not more so,
than the people who commit the crimes you despise.

"Yeasty Cock-Slimmer" wrote in message
news:c7bn401rjhnaccts0770jds6kb0tl9v0dl@rdmzrnew stxt.nz...
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 15:03:06 -0800, "ScottW"
wrote:

Your problem is you're just as, if not more, guilty than many of the
crimes you despise.

Better Mr. grammar checker?

Er, no. That doesn't make sense at all.

Maybe this will help.

Your problem is you're just as, if not more, guilty than many
people of the crimes you despise.

or this

Your problem is you're just as guilty of the crimes you
despise as many people. You may even be more guilty.

Do you need more?

ScottW








I would go this way. Your problem is you are just as guilty, if not more so,
than the people who commit the crimes you despise.







One more change.

Your problem is you are just as guilty, if not more so,
as the people who commit the crimes you despise.

From: "ScottW"

Your problem is you're just as, if not more, guilty than many
people of the crimes you despise.



You poor bitch. Tell the truth. Are your parents first cousins? You better get
all over that Bush mother ****er for the 'No child left behind' education ****
because your behind is so left it's almost right!

Now look here, fool:

Your problem is you're just as, if not more, guilty than many
people of the crimes you despise.


How 'bout this:
Your problem is that you're just as guilty of racist crimes as are the many
people you claim to despise.

See? Make sense now? Christ, you're dumb!

Listen, honky. When this Christmas come around, why don't you ask your fat ass
mammy to get you a mother-****in' Speak n' Spell.

Or maybe start with something basic, fool:

See Scott run.
Run run run.
Run Scott run.

Good starting point.

It's a damn good thing for you they don't have them 'literacy tests' no more
that kept my brothers and sisters from voting, else you'd be one
dis-en-****ing-franchised mother ****er. Now go play with your multiracial ass
family and leave the smarter folk alone. ****in' fool!

Professor Midnite

lete (Professor Midnite) wrote in message ...
From: "ScottW"


Your problem is you're just as, if not more, guilty than many
people of the crimes you despise.


How 'bout this:
Your problem is that you're just as guilty of racist crimes as are the many
people you claim to despise.

See? Make sense now? Christ, you're dumb!

Wrong, changed meaning. I intend to say you despise crimes, not people.

You're an arrogant ******* of the worst kind.
That is, not nearly as smart as you think you are.

No wonder people think education in America is in trouble.

Listen, honky.

So racial slurs are ok for you but not me?
Hypocrite.

ScottW

From: (ScottW)

Wrong, changed meaning. I intend to say you despise crimes, not people.

Damn, but you get funnier every minute! None of your sentences made a lick of
sense and not even the boys who translated the Rosetta Stone could've known for
sure what you meant. Too funny. When I first saw you here, I was thinking maybe
George was being hard on you, but . . .

You're an arrogant ******* of the worst kind.

God damn uppitty ******, ain't I? But I always thought that an uppity ******
with money and a following was the *best* kind of arrogant *******. YMMV, I
suppose.

So racial slurs are ok for you but not me?

Show me where I said you can't use racial slurs, Opie. And damn if you're not
back to using to using that bull**** assumptive provocative question form
again. Thought we grew you out of that.

And by the way, Opie, looks like we might have one solid demonstration this
Friday. So far we have more than 20 gay couples who are gonna show up at *The
Wedding Room* of the Philadelphia Flower Show dressed in formals. Tails, top
hats and all. (That is, unless they turn us away at the door or throw us in
jail for disturbing the peace or some bull**** like that. Won't be the first
night I spend in a white man's jail and it probably won't be the last.)



Professor Midnite

lete (Professor Midnite) wrote in message ...
From: (ScottW)

Wrong, changed meaning. I intend to say you despise crimes, not people.

Damn, but you get funnier every minute! None of your sentences made a lick of
sense and not even the boys who translated the Rosetta Stone could've known for
sure what you meant. Too funny. When I first saw you here, I was thinking maybe
George was being hard on you, but . . .

You still can't deal with the statement. All I get from you is
obfuscation.


You're an arrogant ******* of the worst kind.

God damn uppitty ******, ain't I?

I don't care about your race. I care about your ignorance.

But I always thought that an uppity ******
with money and a following was the *best* kind of arrogant *******. YMMV, I
suppose.

Now you have a following? Your head just keeps swelling.


So racial slurs are ok for you but not me?

Show me where I said you can't use racial slurs, Opie.

I still am offended by your racial slurs. If you expect people to
move beyond racism, I suggest you do your part by not being a racist.

And damn if you're not
back to using to using that bull**** assumptive provocative question form
again. Thought we grew you out of that.

And by the way, Opie, looks like we might have one solid demonstration this
Friday. So far we have more than 20 gay couples who are gonna show up at *The
Wedding Room* of the Philadelphia Flower Show dressed in formals. Tails, top
hats and all. (That is, unless they turn us away at the door or throw us in
jail for disturbing the peace or some bull**** like that. Won't be the first
night I spend in a white man's jail and it probably won't be the last.)

Have you ever been in a black man's jail? How about just a
Philadelphia jail?

You're a disgusting racist. I suspect you're also an embarrassment
to many homosexuals.

Scott

From: (ScottW)

Have you ever been in a black man's jail? How about just a
Philadelphia jail?

Because that's not how it is yet, fool. You think we live in a country where
racism doesn't rule the day? Get your mother-****ing head out of your ass. We
ain't livin' Martin Luther King's dream here yet. We still mostly living Medgar
Evers' nightmare.

You don't know a ****ing thing about anything, do you, Opie? 'Cept maybe what
you see on TV. Ever been in jail? There's white man jail time and black man
jail time. And when you get the **** kicked out of you by white guards, you
learn the difference real fast. Get the **** out of your personal Disneyland
and look around.

We done.

Professor Midnite

"Professor Midnite" wrote in message
...
From: (ScottW)

Have you ever been in a black man's jail? How about just a
Philadelphia jail?

Because that's not how it is yet, fool. You think we live in a country
where
racism doesn't rule the day? Get your mother-****ing head out of your ass.
We
ain't livin' Martin Luther King's dream here yet. We still mostly living
Medgar
Evers' nightmare.

You don't know a ****ing thing about anything, do you, Opie? 'Cept maybe
what
you see on TV. Ever been in jail? There's white man jail time and black
man
jail time. And when you get the **** kicked out of you by white guards,
you
learn the difference real fast. Get the **** out of your personal
Disneyland
and look around.

We done.


We will grant that you are RAO's resident expert on
doing jail time.




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"Professor Midnite" wrote in message
...
From: (ScottW)

Have you ever been in a black man's jail? How about just a
Philadelphia jail?

Because that's not how it is yet, fool. You think we live in a country
where
racism doesn't rule the day? Get your mother-****ing head out of your
ass. We
ain't livin' Martin Luther King's dream here yet. We still mostly living
Medgar
Evers' nightmare.

You don't know a ****ing thing about anything, do you, Opie? 'Cept maybe
what
you see on TV. Ever been in jail? There's white man jail time and black
man
jail time. And when you get the **** kicked out of you by white guards,
you
learn the difference real fast. Get the **** out of your personal
Disneyland
and look around.

We done.

No, I'm still here and you're still a racist.
What some white guard did to you has nothing to do with me.
That's just your lame excuse for being a prejudiced racist.

If you hate racism, stop practicing it.

ScottW

Prof Wallflower quivered with anticipation:

[L]ooks like we might have one solid demonstration this Friday.
So far we have more than 20 gay couples who are gonna show up at *The
Wedding Room* of the Philadelphia Flower Show dressed in formals.

You'll be a handmaiden no more, eh sweet pea?


GeoSynch

Pudge the gimp morosely mumbled:

Fortunately, I can be a stupidist and nobody cares.

You are. No one does.


GeoSynch

From: "ScottW"

If you hate racism, stop practicing i

I suppose you was one of those ****-ass 'I'm opposed to racism' mother-****ers
who supported Prof 54 in California. Did you support that? See, Opie, you sound
like the kind of closet-racist who don't want no mention of race or color so
the statistics won't talk about what's going on. Tell me, Opie. Statistics show
a big difference in jail time and punishment for black folk and white fold
convicted of the same crime. Wonder why that is, Opie? Think it's cause we
don't move around enough to find jobs ?

What you' would like, cracker, is for ******s like me to be good little house
******s like Colin Powell and stop kicking up a fuss. What Yustabe would like
is for gay folk to just mind their own business and not make a big of deal of
things. But until society is really as color blind and as un-sexist and
unprejudiced as a few people here seem to be, we gonna stick it in your face
every chance we get.

Live with it, honky

Professor Midnite

From: lete

What you would like, cracker, is for ******s like me to be good little house
******s like Colin Powell

And btw, I met Colin Powell and spent time with the man. Before and after. And
let me tell you. The mother-****er sold out and broke my heart.

Remember that little speech he gave in the UN? Go get a tape of it, if you can.
Turn off the picture and listen real good to the sound of his voice. It's way
higher in pitch than usual and it strains and breaks a whole lot. His voice
never did that before in any public address no matter how much stress. So if
you aske me, what was up was that Powell was a good man who knew he was selling
the **** out by selling the world Bush bull**** and it was breaking his heart
and his voice the same way it was breaking mine.

****.

Quo ****ing vadis Colin . . .

Professor Midnite

Professor Midnite