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feeling bass - a coloration?
Is the bass that you feel from a speaker system a coloration? I might
argue that it is because only changing air pressure over time is recorded on a sound medium, not tactile vibrations. Also, is bass only felt because of vibrations from the enclosure coupling to the floor? Are low frequency vibrations in the air perceptible on the skin or chest cavity at less than marching band levels? Regardless if it is a coloration, I would not enjoy many types of music as much without the physical sensations. |
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"david h." wrote in message
om Is the bass that you feel from a speaker system a coloration? Not necessarily. I might argue that it is because only changing air pressure over time is recorded on a sound medium, not tactile vibrations. Also, is bass only felt because of vibrations from the enclosure coupling to the floor? Not at all. Only a small portion of the bass energy of a speaker is coupled from the enclosure to the floor. Are low frequency vibrations in the air perceptible on the skin or chest cavity at less than marching band levels? Yes. Even a string quartet can produce noticeable tactile sensations. Regardless if it is a coloration, I would not enjoy many types of music as much without the physical sensations. I guess you don't listen to much live music. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unncessary put-down. |
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"Robertg Morein" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unnecessary put-down. Only if you think that listening to live music somehow makes you a better person than someone who doesn't. I think I've detected that attitude in your past posts, Robert. Don't try to load me up with your baggage. One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! |
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feeling bass - a coloration?
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news  "Robertg Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unnecessary put-down. Only if you think that listening to live music somehow makes you a better person than someone who doesn't. I think I've detected that attitude in your past posts, Robert. Don't try to load me up with your baggage. Don't make it complicated. You stuck the guy, and you're trying to use complicated logic to excuse yourself. Insults are not complicated. |
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"Robertg Morein" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news "Robertg Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unnecessary put-down. Only if you think that listening to live music somehow makes you a better person than someone who doesn't. I think I've detected that attitude in your past posts, Robert. Don't try to load me up with your baggage. Don't make it complicated. If you could only take your own advice, Rob. You stuck the guy, Only in your mind, Rob. I read what he wrote and realized that he couldn't be listening to a lot of live music, and just wanted to confirm that. and you're trying to use complicated logic to excuse yourself. You are probably attacking me in a vain attempt to exorcise those personal demons that keep bothering you, Rob. Last time it was your highly ironic "Bad scientist" schtick. I thought maybe you had found some meds that were helping you with your problems. Insults are not complicated. Often they are perceived by busybodies who have agendas of their own, and turn them into far more than they would be if just left alone. |
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feeling bass - a coloration?
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news "Robertg Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unnecessary put-down. Only if you think that listening to live music somehow makes you a better person than someone who doesn't. I think I've detected that attitude in your past posts, Robert. Don't try to load me up with your baggage. One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! What instrument do you play? Or do you sing? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robertg Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news "Robertg Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unnecessary put-down. Only if you think that listening to live music somehow makes you a better person than someone who doesn't. I think I've detected that attitude in your past posts, Robert. Don't try to load me up with your baggage. Don't make it complicated. If you could only take your own advice, Rob. You stuck the guy, Only in your mind, Rob. I read what he wrote and realized that he couldn't be listening to a lot of live music, and just wanted to confirm that. and you're trying to use complicated logic to excuse yourself. You are probably attacking me in a vain attempt to exorcise those personal demons that keep bothering you, Rob. Last time it was your highly ironic "Bad scientist" schtick. I thought maybe you had found some meds that were helping you with your problems. Insults are not complicated. Often they are perceived by busybodies who have agendas of their own, and turn them into far more than they would be if just left alone. No agenda here, Arny. It would have been a perfect post, except for the last sentence. |
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"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! What instrument do you play? Piano, once upon a time. Or do you sing? Once upon a time. |
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"david h." wrote in message om... Is the bass that you feel from a speaker system a coloration? I might argue that it is because only changing air pressure over time is recorded on a sound medium, not tactile vibrations. Also, is bass only felt because of vibrations from the enclosure coupling to the floor? Are low frequency vibrations in the air perceptible on the skin or chest cavity at less than marching band levels? Regardless if it is a coloration, I would not enjoy many types of music as much without the physical sensations. David, First, I would like to apologize for the insulting behavior of Arny Krueger, who belittled your question. The perception of bass is always colored, to a some degree, except in the most carefully engineered listening environments. However, the low frequency vibrations that are your interest are more related to the recording technique. In jazz and popular recording, drums are frequently "close miked", which means that the microphone, frequently a specialized type, is placed within a foot of the instrument. When this is done, the microphone picks up what is called the "near field". The physical definition of the near field in audio is similar to that in electrodynamics. It refers to the part of the pressure picked up by the microphone that is not radiated further into the room, because close to the instrument the air is still coupled to the diaphram of the drum. If you were actually present at the performance, and the venue was a large room, and the sound was not artificially reinforced, you would not hear the near field, and most of the visceral impact would not be present. On the other hand, if the venue was a small room, then it is likely you would experience the visceral impact, as the drum would pressurize the entire room. In physics, the difference between the near field and the far field is modeled by the "retarded potentials", which take into account the finite speed of propagation of a wave. Once again, I apologize for Arny Krueger's uncouth remark. Best regards, Bob Morein |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote: "Robertg Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unnecessary put-down. Only if you think that listening to live music somehow makes you a better person than someone who doesn't. I think I've detected that attitude in your past posts, Robert. Don't try to load me up with your baggage. One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! It's a worldwide symphony. Stephen |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:43:49 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! What instrument do you play? Piano, once upon a time. Or do you sing? Once upon a time. So, what kind of music are you currently performing live? |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news "Robertg Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unnecessary put-down. Only if you think that listening to live music somehow makes you a better person than someone who doesn't. I think I've detected that attitude in your past posts, Robert. Don't try to load me up with your baggage. One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! Since this final paragraph is clearly boasting, the inverse or putdown of someone who isn't doing these things is clear. ScottW |
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"dave weil" wrote in message
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:43:49 -0500, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! What instrument do you play? Piano, once upon a time. Or do you sing? Once upon a time. So, what kind of music are you currently performing live? Reading-disability-related inability to discern time frame from the phrase "Once upon a time" noted. |
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"ScottW" wrote in message
news:g2n2c.15969$id3.5950@fed1read01 "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news "Robertg Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unnecessary put-down. Only if you think that listening to live music somehow makes you a better person than someone who doesn't. I think I've detected that attitude in your past posts, Robert. Don't try to load me up with your baggage. One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! Since this final paragraph is clearly boasting, the inverse or putdown of someone who isn't doing these things is clear. Sorry about those feelings of inferiority that seem to be constantly bedeviling you, Scott. |
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 10:24:26 -0600, dave weil
wrote: That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! What instrument do you play? Piano, once upon a time. Or do you sing? Once upon a time. So, what kind of music are you currently performing live? Sorry. Upon rereading your paragraph more carefully, I realize that you aren't necessarily performing live music currently. I assume that your reference to performing live music "for several years" ties in to your previous statement about singing in the past. Correct? |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "ScottW" wrote in message news:g2n2c.15969$id3.5950@fed1read01 "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news "Robertg Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unnecessary put-down. Only if you think that listening to live music somehow makes you a better person than someone who doesn't. I think I've detected that attitude in your past posts, Robert. Don't try to load me up with your baggage. One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! Since this final paragraph is clearly boasting, the inverse or putdown of someone who isn't doing these things is clear. Sorry about those feelings of inferiority that seem to be constantly bedeviling you, Scott. Nice try Arny. But upon further review you have proven Robert's point. You're an ass. And you were an ass to a newb who has done absolutely nothing to warrant it. No history no nothing. Unless you did so because you were sure he would soon be attacking you so you were just acting preemptively. But how could you be assured of that, unless, subconsciously at least, you know you're an ass and you will make people hate you because you like it. ScottW |
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"ScottW" wrote in message
news:0Cn2c.15982$id3.9358@fed1read01 "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "ScottW" wrote in message news:g2n2c.15969$id3.5950@fed1read01 "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news
"Robertg Morein" wrote in message"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unnecessary put-down. Only if you think that listening to live music somehow makes you a better person than someone who doesn't. I think I've detected that attitude in your past posts, Robert. Don't try to load me up with your baggage. One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! Since this final paragraph is clearly boasting, the inverse or putdown of someone who isn't doing these things is clear. Sorry about those feelings of inferiority that seem to be constantly bedeviling you, Scott. Nice try Arny. No, its a painful indictment of you,. Scott. But upon further review you have proven Robert's point. You're an ass. Scotty, shall I post just a small sample of the gratuitous insults that you've directed towards me on RAO? This is just another one, except this time it is a lame comeback, instead of being gratuitous. However, your initial involvement in this issue was gratuitous, wasn't it. I'm sure they are very pleased with you at the Phillips-Yustabe-Middius busybody's school. Scotty aren't you one of the ingrates that I've provided technical help to repeatedly, but who wouldn't **** on me even if I were on fire? |
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Arny said:
Scotty aren't you one of the ingrates that I've provided technical help to repeatedly, but who wouldn't **** on me even if I were on fire? Thanks Krueger for admitting that you like that sort of thing. Boon |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:48:03 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "dave weil" wrote in message On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:43:49 -0500, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news
One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! What instrument do you play? Piano, once upon a time. Or do you sing? Once upon a time. So, what kind of music are you currently performing live? Reading-disability-related inability to discern time frame from the phrase "Once upon a time" noted. Nice response to a simple question. |
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"david h." wrote in message om... Is the bass that you feel from a speaker system a coloration? I might argue that it is because only changing air pressure over time is recorded on a sound medium, not tactile vibrations. Also, is bass only felt because of vibrations from the enclosure coupling to the floor? Are low frequency vibrations in the air perceptible on the skin or chest cavity at less than marching band levels? Regardless if it is a coloration, I would not enjoy many types of music as much without the physical sensations. For 2 sounds to have the same sound pressure level, the velocity must be the same. Lower frequencies thus require higher peak excursions to obtain the same SPL. Such excursions are easily felt as tactile pressure on your body. That's why they make "bass shakers"; it's an attempt to replace the effect of varying air pressure on your body, which is hard to come by, with varying tactile vibration, which is easier to produce. Norm Strong |
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"George M. Middius" wrote in message ... Robert Morein said: I would like to apologize for the insulting behavior of Arny Krueger Nobody has ever come out with it like that before. It's both revolting and a bit moving. You've been giving him the forehand. I'm giving him a backhand. |
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Robert Morein wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote in message .. . Robert Morein said: I would like to apologize for the insulting behavior of Arny Krueger Nobody has ever come out with it like that before. It's both revolting and a bit moving. You've been giving him the forehand. I'm giving him a backhand. 2 Questions: (1) How far can you guys hit a lob? (2) Do the Laws of Gravity always apply?  Bruce J. Richman |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "ScottW" wrote in message news:0Cn2c.15982$id3.9358@fed1read01 "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "ScottW" wrote in message news:g2n2c.15969$id3.5950@fed1read01 "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news
"Robertg Morein" wrote in message"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om [snip] I guess you don't listen to much live music. A good answer, except for the last line, which is an unnecessary put-down. Only if you think that listening to live music somehow makes you a better person than someone who doesn't. I think I've detected that attitude in your past posts, Robert. Don't try to load me up with your baggage. One day I woke up and realized that with all these people ranting and raving and bragging about listening to live music, I'd been listening to live music a minimum of once a week since a week or two after I was born. That's almost 58 years. I have also regularly performed live music for several years. I currently am routinely and intimately involved producing and recording live music. Whatever! Since this final paragraph is clearly boasting, the inverse or putdown of someone who isn't doing these things is clear. Sorry about those feelings of inferiority that seem to be constantly bedeviling you, Scott. Nice try Arny. No, its a painful indictment of you,. Scott. But upon further review you have proven Robert's point. You're an ass. Scotty, shall I post just a small sample of the gratuitous insults that you've directed towards me on RAO? Any insults I've tossed your way were well deserved. I used to offer you well intended words of advice. What did I get for that? This is just another one, except this time it is a lame comeback, instead of being gratuitous. However, your initial involvement in this issue was gratuitous, wasn't it. I'm sure they are very pleased with you at the Phillips-Yustabe-Middius busybody's school. Scotty aren't you one of the ingrates that I've provided technical help to repeatedly, but who wouldn't **** on me even if I were on fire? Any occasion of technical help has been swamped by occasions of insanity like the full circle you ran on dither and the J-test. If we took about 6 months worth of posts on that subject and sped 'em up, you come out looking like a dog snapping at it's own tail. ScottW |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Robert Morein wrote: [snip] 2 Questions: (1) How far can you guys hit a lob? (2) Do the Laws of Gravity always apply? Think "Pong." You're in for the price of a quarter. |
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Any occasion of technical help has been swamped by occasions of insanity like the full circle you ran on dither and the J-test. If we took about 6 months worth of posts on that subject and sped 'em up, you come out looking like a dog snapping at it's own tail. ScottW He blamed his technical incompetence over that issue on typos. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ...
"david h." wrote in message om Regardless if it is a coloration, I would not enjoy many types of music as much without the physical sensations. I guess you don't listen to much live music. You are correct, I don't listen to much live music. That is unfortunate for me because in the rare instances I have attended a concert at the Kennedy Center here in D.C. it was wonderful. Obviously, I don't know if the bass I feel from my speakers on any given song would have been felt at the recording studio or live event. Thus, my original questions. |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message ...
"david h." wrote in message om... David, First, I would like to apologize for the insulting behavior of Arny Krueger, who belittled your question. The perception of bass is always colored, to a some degree, except in the most carefully engineered listening environments. However, the low frequency vibrations that are your interest are more related to the recording technique. In jazz and popular recording, drums are frequently "close miked", which means that the microphone, frequently a specialized type, is placed within a foot of the instrument. When this is done, the microphone picks up what is called the "near field". The physical definition of the near field in audio is similar to that in electrodynamics. It refers to the part of the pressure picked up by the microphone that is not radiated further into the room, because close to the instrument the air is still coupled to the diaphram of the drum. If you were actually present at the performance, and the venue was a large room, and the sound was not artificially reinforced, you would not hear the near field, and most of the visceral impact would not be present. On the other hand, if the venue was a small room, then it is likely you would experience the visceral impact, as the drum would pressurize the entire room. In physics, the difference between the near field and the far field is modeled by the "retarded potentials", which take into account the finite speed of propagation of a wave. Once again, I apologize for Arny Krueger's uncouth remark. Best regards, Bob Morein Thank you, Mr. Morein. I was asking because of my interest in the way sound is produced by the HyperSonic Sound System (atcsd.com). Since it uses ultrasonic frequencies to produce audible ones, I was wondering if the bass it produces would be felt as it is by a conventional loudspeaker. If the bass could not be felt, I was curious to know if that would be similar to listening to headphones, but with a proper soundstage. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Scotty aren't you one of the ingrates that I've provided technical help to repeatedly, but who wouldn't **** on me even if I were on fire? There's one way to find out. Anybody got a light? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"ScottW" wrote in message
news:YWr2c.16012$id3.1826@fed1read01 "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... This is just another one, except this time it is a lame comeback, instead of being gratuitous. However, your initial involvement in this issue was gratuitous, wasn't it. I'm sure they are very pleased with you at the Phillips-Yustabe-Middius busybody's school. Scotty aren't you one of the ingrates that I've provided technical help to repeatedly, but who wouldn't **** on me even if I were on fire? Any occasion of technical help has been swamped by occasions of insanity like the full circle you ran on dither and the J-test. You're technically incompetent to comment on this discussion, or any discussion with any technical depth, Scotty. You're just Marc Phillips with a pocket protector and a pickup truck. |
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"david h." wrote in message
om "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om Regardless if it is a coloration, I would not enjoy many types of music as much without the physical sensations. I guess you don't listen to much live music. You are correct, I don't listen to much live music. Please correct that at your earliest convenience. That is unfortunate for me because in the rare instances I have attended a concert at the Kennedy Center here in D.C. it was wonderful. Never did that, but I have been to Lincoln Center in NY. Obviously, I don't know if the bass I feel from my speakers on any given song would have been felt at the recording studio or live event. Probably it was felt more than you can imagine. Subsonics and bass are one thing that most stereos make go away or trash, but somehow very few people manage to write about it. Thus, my original questions. You got to get some face time with live music. Move mountains. |
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"david h." wrote in message om... "Robert Morein" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om... David, [snip] Once again, I apologize for Arny Krueger's uncouth remark. Best regards, Bob Morein Thank you, Mr. Morein. I was asking because of my interest in the way sound is produced by the HyperSonic Sound System (atcsd.com). Since it uses ultrasonic frequencies to produce audible ones, I was wondering if the bass it produces would be felt as it is by a conventional loudspeaker. If the bass could not be felt, I was curious to know if that would be similar to listening to headphones, but with a proper soundstage. The physics in that system is so complex that I am afraid we have to reply on the reports of users. |
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"david h." wrote in message
om Thank you, Mr. Morein. Morien is well known for his vendettas and he has a long-term vendetta going against me. He is also quite deceptive and self-deceptive. I seriously doubt that he will ever be a productive person - permanently damaged goods. He comes from a wealthy family and has long been a "professional college student", which should tell you everything you need to know. I was asking because of my interest in the way sound is produced by the HyperSonic Sound System (atcsd.com). Since it uses ultrasonic frequencies to produce audible ones, I was wondering if the bass it produces would be felt as it is by a conventional loudspeaker. If the bass could not be felt, I was curious to know if that would be similar to listening to headphones, but with a proper soundstage. Good point. I don't think that anybody is seriously proposing HSS as a substitute for a large scale high quality audio system. Instead it is being proposed as a problem solver in situations where pinpoint distribution of sound is desired. I see that http://www.atcsd.com/index.html has on their home page a product called "Pure Bass". "PureBass is the first cone based, extended range sub-woofer available to ATC licensees with superior sound quality, output capability and higher crossover frequencies than conventional sub-woofers." I think that gives every clue that is needed. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "david h." wrote in message om Thank you, Mr. Morein. Morien is well known for his vendettas and he has a long-term vendetta going against me. He is also quite deceptive and self-deceptive. I seriously doubt that he will ever be a productive person - permanently damaged goods. He comes from a wealthy family and has long been a "professional college student", which should tell you everything you need to know. Arny, this is the kind of post that gets you in trouble. I apologized for your behavior, which embarasses us all. When you have a tantrum, it would be best for you to go away quietly and come back when you regain control of yourself. Apologies to the public at large, on behalf of Arny Krueger. |
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I seriously doubt
that he will ever be a productive person - permanently damaged goods. He comes from a wealthy family and has long been a "professional college student", which should tell you everything you need to know. Jealous? It is ironic that a chronic underachiever would hypocritically make such attacks on another person's productivity. How productive could someone whose life is lived on Usenet possibly be? |
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"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Scotty aren't you one of the ingrates that I've provided technical help to repeatedly, but who wouldn't **** on me even if I were on fire? There's one way to find out. Anybody got a light? I don't smoke, but I'll provide the fluid  . |
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Art Sackman wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Scotty aren't you one of the ingrates that I've provided technical help to repeatedly, but who wouldn't **** on me even if I were on fire? There's one way to find out. Anybody got a light? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- Thanks, Sackman, for admitting that you favor empirical research and hypothesis testing. Bruce J. Richman |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "ScottW" wrote in message news:YWr2c.16012$id3.1826@fed1read01 "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... This is just another one, except this time it is a lame comeback, instead of being gratuitous. However, your initial involvement in this issue was gratuitous, wasn't it. I'm sure they are very pleased with you at the Phillips-Yustabe-Middius busybody's school. Scotty aren't you one of the ingrates that I've provided technical help to repeatedly, but who wouldn't **** on me even if I were on fire? Any occasion of technical help has been swamped by occasions of insanity like the full circle you ran on dither and the J-test. You're technically incompetent to comment on this discussion, or any discussion with any technical depth, Scotty. How much technical competence is required to know you changed your story and refuse to admit it? How much technical competence is required to know that you are deeply jealous of anyone in the audio world of significant accomplishment? How much technical competence is required to know that comparing digital samples of amplifiers through a PC or another masking amplifier is a stupid idea? How much technical competence is required to know that you would rather lie and obfuscsate with personal attacks before admitting a mistake? How much technical competence is required to know that your life is pathetically centered on usenet? How much technical competence is required to know that your degree is meaningless? ScottW |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Art Sackman wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Scotty aren't you one of the ingrates that I've provided technical help to repeatedly, but who wouldn't **** on me even if I were on fire? There's one way to find out. Anybody got a light? Thanks, Sackman, for admitting that you favor empirical research and hypothesis testing. score! ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"ScottW" wrote in message
news:HsI2c.16159$id3.4582@fed1read01 "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "ScottW" wrote in message news:YWr2c.16012$id3.1826@fed1read01 "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... This is just another one, except this time it is a lame comeback, instead of being gratuitous. However, your initial involvement in this issue was gratuitous, wasn't it. I'm sure they are very pleased with you at the Phillips-Yustabe-Middius busybody's school. Scotty aren't you one of the ingrates that I've provided technical help to repeatedly, but who wouldn't **** on me even if I were on fire? Any occasion of technical help has been swamped by occasions of insanity like the full circle you ran on dither and the J-test. Since you don't understand dither or the J-test Scotty, how can you presume to comment on these topics? You're technically incompetent to comment on this discussion, or any discussion with any technical depth, Scotty. How much technical competence is required to know you changed your story and refuse to admit it? More than you've got Scotty, because in order to know that I'd changed my story you'd have to understand my story. My technical discussions shoot over your head about the time I mention Ohm's law. How much technical competence is required to know that you are deeply jealous of anyone in the audio world of significant accomplishment? More than you've got Scotty, because it takes some technical competence to know what constitutes a significant accomplishment. Furthermore you raising the issue of significant accomplishments only damns yourself because you ain't got any. How much technical competence is required to know that comparing digital samples of amplifiers through a PC or another masking amplifier is a stupid idea? More than you've got Scotty, because it takes some technical competence to know what constitutes a stupid idea. You've also exposed your ignorance Scotty because we know you accept the idea of listening to amplifiers through loudspeakers and it's no secret that it is entirely feasible for a PC or another amplifier to have less masking than a speaker. How much technical competence is required to know that you would rather lie and obfuscsate with personal attacks before admitting a mistake? It takes more technical competence than you've got Scotty, because it takes some technical competence to know what constitutes a mistake. Heck, you can't even spell obfuscate and you're too arrogant to use a spell-checker. You're so technically incompetent that it's dangerous to answer your technical questions because you don't understand the meaning of many of the technical terms you throw around. How much technical competence is required to know that your life is pathetically centered on Usenet? More than you've got Scotty, because my life is not centered on Usenet. How much technical competence is required to know that your degree is meaningless? Given that I received my degree more than 30 years ago, you're beating a dead horse. My 30-year-old degree was meaningless within 5 years of when I received it. What of it? |
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