HI

I'm installing a sound system in a pizzeria restaurant that will be
used mainly to play background music. I bought Four Pyle PDIW55
speakers. They will be installed as sets of two, Two Speakers in the
front of store and Two in the back.

I'm at a loss as to what receiver/amplifier I need to accomplish the
following requirements:

1) Be able to connect 4 speakers
2) Two volume controls. One for each set of 2 speakers.
3) Should have connection for both a CD player and computer via mini
jack to RCA converter.

I'm looking at the Pyramid PR530A (see link below) Can you tell me if
this has the above


here is a link to the speakers

http://www.pyleaudio.com/itemdetail....s&model=PDIW55

and a link to the receiver
http://www.pyramidcaraudio.com/itemp...p?model=PR530A

wrote:

I'm installing a sound system in a pizzeria restaurant that will be
used mainly to play background music. I bought Four Pyle PDIW55
speakers. They will be installed as sets of two, Two Speakers in the
front of store and Two in the back.

I'm at a loss as to what receiver/amplifier I need to accomplish the
following requirements:

1) Be able to connect 4 speakers
2) Two volume controls. One for each set of 2 speakers.
3) Should have connection for both a CD player and computer via mini
jack to RCA converter.

I'm looking at the Pyramid PR530A (see link below) Can you tell me if
this has the above


here is a link to the speakers

http://www.pyleaudio.com/itemdetail....s&model=PDIW55

and a link to the receiver
http://www.pyramidcaraudio.com/itemp...p?model=PR530A

Just about any home receiver will handle requirements 1 and 3. I am not
aware of any that meet requirement 2) The unit you link to does not
appear to.

Probably the least expensive route is two home receivers, one for each
pair of speakers. Take the record out of one receiver to feed the
program material to the other.

There are commercial AV products that meet your requirements, but you're
looking at much more money due to economies of scale.

wrote:
I'm installing a sound system in a pizzeria restaurant that will be
used mainly to play background music. I bought Four Pyle PDIW55
speakers. They will be installed as sets of two, Two Speakers in the
front of store and Two in the back.

Why did you do this? You could have got standard installed sound speakers
for less money.

I'm at a loss as to what receiver/amplifier I need to accomplish the
following requirements:

1) Be able to connect 4 speakers
2) Two volume controls. One for each set of 2 speakers.
3) Should have connection for both a CD player and computer via mini
jack to RCA converter.

Basically, you don't want a receiver. You want an amplifier with a 70V
output, mono.

Then you want an attenuator on the front two speakers, and an attenuator
on the back two speakers.

You will have to add 70V transformers to them if you wish to use those
Pyle things.

There is a good introduction to 70V systems in the Yamaha Sound Reinforcement
Handbook. It allows you to switch speakers in and out easily without any
change in level to the other speakers, and to adjust levels independently
by doing the level control after the amp rather than before it.

The Speco transformers and attenuators are okay and cheap. The Atlas ones
are better and less cheap. The Tannoy ones are excellent and expensive.

I'm looking at the Pyramid PR530A (see link below) Can you tell me if
this has the above

I would not wish this stuff on my worst enemy. Look for stuff designed
for installed sound applications.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

In article , says...

1) Be able to connect 4 speakers
2) Two volume controls. One for each set of 2 speakers.
3) Should have connection for both a CD player and computer via mini
jack to RCA converter.

Basically, you don't want a receiver. You want an amplifier with a 70V
output, mono.


What, you don't think they're ever going to want to listen to radio broadcasts
at the pizzeria? The guy says he wants a receiver, maybe he knows a little
better than you do what he needs? You still make far too many assumptions for
someone who's track record for having his assumptions turn out to be correct is
so low. If I were you I'd stick to the electronics engineering that relies on
deductive logic which you probably have an above-average aptitude for, because
your aptitude for inductive reasoning is well below average.

Then you go off telling him the stuff he is considering isn't 'pro-audio'
quality enough for his pizzaria? You are ridiculous, are you not capable of
understanding that 'professional audio applications' can refer to recording
studios and home-brew PA systems made from consumer hi-fi equipment in
pizzarias, and the needs for those different applications are going to be
vastly different? I hate to break it to you, but if I run a falaffel stand I'm
a professional, and if I decide I want to put a ghetto blaster on the counter
to attract customers, that's an application of 'pro-audio'. So maybe you
should finally get over your pathetic elitist obession over the word
'professional' and realize that it means one thing - running a profitable
business. It does not mean buying expensive audio equipment to sell pizza.

In article uIscg.20850$zn1.13335@clgrps13, Chevdo wrote:
What, you don't think they're ever going to want to listen to radio broadcasts
at the pizzeria? The guy says he wants a receiver, maybe he knows a little
better than you do what he needs?

Cheap gear breaks.
Gear that breaks costs you money.
Gear that doesn't break costs less in the long run.

If he wants to listen to the radio, that's fine. But that has nothing to
do with the fact that the 70V distribution system is the right tool for the
job, and to run a 70V distribution system you need a 70V-capable amp.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey wrote:
In article uIscg.20850$zn1.13335@clgrps13, Chevdo wrote:

What, you don't think they're ever going to want to listen to radio broadcasts
at the pizzeria? The guy says he wants a receiver, maybe he knows a little
better than you do what he needs?

Cheap gear breaks.
Gear that breaks costs you money.
Gear that doesn't break costs less in the long run.

If he wants to listen to the radio, that's fine. But that has nothing to
do with the fact that the 70V distribution system is the right tool for the
job, and to run a 70V distribution system you need a 70V-capable amp.

A 70 volt system for a small pizzaria is overkill. For one thing, to
run a 70 volt system you have to hire somebody who knows what a 70 volt
system is. I'm sure that he can send one of his delivery drivers over
to Best Buy during the slow time, buy two commidity receivers and hook
them up, all for less than the labor price of a 70 volt installation.
Remember that this guy's business is selling food, not providing music.
If his sound system breaks, his cash flow doesn't come to a stop.

Now, if he was talking 6 zones each with separate volume control, I
might think about 70 volt. But not for what he wants to do. KISS.

//Walt

"Walt" wrote in message

wrote:

I'm installing a sound system in a pizzeria restaurant
that will be used mainly to play background music. I
bought Four Pyle PDIW55 speakers. They will be
installed as sets of two, Two Speakers in the front of
store and Two in the back. I'm at a loss as to what receiver/amplifier I
need to
accomplish the following requirements:

1) Be able to connect 4 speakers
2) Two volume controls. One for each set of 2 speakers.
3) Should have connection for both a CD player and
computer via mini jack to RCA converter.

I'm looking at the Pyramid PR530A (see link below) Can
you tell me if this has the above


here is a link to the speakers

http://www.pyleaudio.com/itemdetail....s&model=PDIW55

and a link to the receiver
http://www.pyramidcaraudio.com/itemp...p?model=PR530A

Just about any home receiver will handle requirements 1
and 3. I am not aware of any that meet requirement 2) The unit you link
to does not appear to.

Probably the least expensive route is two home receivers,
one for each pair of speakers. Take the record out of
one receiver to feed the program material to the other.

There are commercial AV products that meet your
requirements, but you're looking at much more money due
to economies of scale.

I agree with your recommendation, totally. 100 wpc 2-channel receivers run
about $100 each, and in the experience of several of my clients who use them
for background music in their client waiting rooms, they last for years and
years.

Can I use the "Balance Control", as seen on the manual, be used in
place of two volume controls?
http://www.pyramidcaraudio.com/manuals/PR530A.pdf

I don't want two machines it takes up to much space

thanks
Joel

wrote:

Can I use the "Balance Control", as seen on the manual, be used in
place of two volume controls?
http://www.pyramidcaraudio.com/manuals/PR530A.pdf

You can, but you probably won't like the results. The "Balance Control"
controls the left vs. right volume, not the front vs. rear volume.

I don't want two machines it takes up to much space

Then buy two small units. A lot of the cheaper receivers are mostly
empty space inside the box anyway.

//Walt