Listening to some music today, it occurred to me that some vocalists are
head and shoulders above others.

Think about who you really like listening to when he or she sings.

Think about raw talent.

Think about musical discipline.

Think about stage presence.

Think about overall performance.

Think about purity and beauty of vocal performance.

Think about pitch, tempo, and all those other "technical" things, but very
basic to coming across as a good vocalist.

MY CHOICES (HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE THE REST):

BEST LIVING MALE VOCALIST: Andrea Bocelli

BEST LIVING FEMALE VOCALIST: Celine Deion

Feel free to feel differently.

From: "Sandman"
Date: 2/28/2004 10:02 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Listening to some music today, it occurred to me that some vocalists are
head and shoulders above others.

Think about who you really like listening to when he or she sings.

Think about raw talent.

Think about musical discipline.

Think about stage presence.

Think about overall performance.

Think about purity and beauty of vocal performance.

Think about pitch, tempo, and all those other "technical" things, but very
basic to coming across as a good vocalist.

MY CHOICES (HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE THE REST):

BEST LIVING MALE VOCALIST: Andrea Bocelli

BEST LIVING FEMALE VOCALIST: Celine Deion

Back to rehab, Sanders. Try to really "dry out" this time; you're gonna be
changing ca-ca diapers soon . ;-)

BEST LIVING MALE VOCALIST: Ray Charles

BEST LIVING FEMALE VOCALIST: Tracy Nelson





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"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
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BEST LIVING MALE VOCALIST: Ray Charles
Can he still sing?
I saw Greg Lake a few years ago and his voice was shot
but when I saw him in college, he had an incredible voice.

BEST LIVING FEMALE VOCALIST: Tracy Nelson

Still alive though her best stuff was years ago: Annie Haslam

ScottW

BEST LIVING MALE VOCALIST: Andrea Bocelli

BEST LIVING FEMALE VOCALIST: Celine Deion

Feel free to feel differently.

Feelin differently.

Still alive though her best stuff was years ago: Annie Haslam

She's one of those singers that people either love or hate. You will be hard
pressed to find anyone with a greater range, 5 octaves, but I have noticed that
her style really bothers some people. I saw Renaissance live on one of their
last tours. I was front row center. Great show. I actually bumped into Annie
Haslam hours before the show and was invited back stage after the show. Nice
lady.

(S888Wheel) said:

Annie Haslam

She's one of those singers that people either love or hate. You will be hard
pressed to find anyone with a greater range, 5 octaves,

Rachelle Ferrell.

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:51:50 +0100, Sander deWaal
wrote:

(S888Wheel) said:

Annie Haslam

She's one of those singers that people either love or hate. You will be hard
pressed to find anyone with a greater range, 5 octaves,

Rachelle Ferrell.

I've always liked Annie Haslam, but I've never really connected with
her. She seems to be devoid of "passion". But that reminds me of a
serious hole in my collection that needs to be remedied.

Annie Haslam

She's one of those singers that people either love or hate. You will be
hard
pressed to find anyone with a greater range, 5 octaves,

Rachelle Ferrell.

I've always liked Annie Haslam, but I've never really connected with
her. She seems to be devoid of "passion". But that reminds me of a
serious hole in my collection that needs to be remedied.



Just shows there are exceptions to my comments.

On 29 Feb 2004 16:34:19 GMT, (S888Wheel) wrote:


Annie Haslam

She's one of those singers that people either love or hate. You will be
hard
pressed to find anyone with a greater range, 5 octaves,

Rachelle Ferrell.

I've always liked Annie Haslam, but I've never really connected with
her. She seems to be devoid of "passion". But that reminds me of a
serious hole in my collection that needs to be remedied.



Just shows there are exceptions to my comments.

Sure. It's just a personal expression though and shouldn't be taken as
a diss against Ms. Halsam, whose music I've enjoyed over the years -
sadly not recently though. That's something that I'm going to correct
immediately, starting with Ashes Are Burning (anything with Andy
Powell of Wishbone Ash can't be all bad!) to be followed by the
Carnegie Hall set.

Her rather "bloodless" style works perfectly with the music of
Renaissance though. Much like Sam Phillips' similar icy style works
for her.

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:42:34 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

Sure. It's just a personal expression though and shouldn't be taken as
a diss against Ms. Halsam

Or Haslam even...

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On 29 Feb 2004 16:34:19 GMT, (S888Wheel) wrote:


Annie Haslam

She's one of those singers that people either love or hate. You will
be
hard
pressed to find anyone with a greater range, 5 octaves,

Rachelle Ferrell.

I've always liked Annie Haslam, but I've never really connected with
her. She seems to be devoid of "passion". But that reminds me of a
serious hole in my collection that needs to be remedied.



Just shows there are exceptions to my comments.

Sure. It's just a personal expression though and shouldn't be taken as
a diss against Ms. Halsam, whose music I've enjoyed over the years -
sadly not recently though. That's something that I'm going to correct
immediately, starting with Ashes Are Burning (anything with Andy
Powell of Wishbone Ash can't be all bad!) to be followed by the
Carnegie Hall set.

Aaah memories. I recall seeing Wishbone Ash a year after Argus
came out. Great concert. They did a 45 minute version of
Phoenix to close the show that was just awesome .
Climax Blues Band was the lead. Peter Haycock was pretty incredible
on that slide. FM Live is a great party album.

ScottW

Glad to see people having fun with this thread.

In article ,
"Sandman" wrote:

Glad to see people having fun with this thread.



Does the male vocalist have to be blind?

Stephen

Best Living Pop/Rock Vocalists: IMO

Male: Russell Smith
Ray Charles
C J Chenier

Female: KD Lang
Ruthie Foster

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Sandman" wrote:

Glad to see people having fun with this thread.



Does the male vocalist have to be blind?

I suppose overcoming such a handicap and being able to find your way onstage
could be considered a factor, eh?

"Nousaine" wrote in message
...
Best Living Pop/Rock Vocalists: IMO

Male: Russell Smith
Ray Charles
C J Chenier

Female: KD Lang
Ruthie Foster


Who are Russell Smith and Ruthie Foster?




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Annie Haslam

She's one of those singers that people either love or hate. You will be
hard
pressed to find anyone with a greater range, 5 octaves,

Rachelle Ferrell.

I've always liked Annie Haslam, but I've never really connected with
her. She seems to be devoid of "passion". But that reminds me of a
serious hole in my collection that needs to be remedied.



Just shows there are exceptions to my comments.


Sure. It's just a personal expression though and shouldn't be taken as
a diss against Ms. Halsam,

I didn't see it as a dis.

whose music I've enjoyed over the years -
sadly not recently though. That's something that I'm going to correct
immediately, starting with Ashes Are Burning (anything with Andy
Powell of Wishbone Ash can't be all bad!) to be followed by the
Carnegie Hall set.

Nice choice of records.



Her rather "bloodless" style works perfectly with the music of
Renaissance though. Much like Sam Phillips' similar icy style works
for her.

I never thought of her as cold or bloodless. I thought the knock on her was the
lack of grittyness. Some see her as simply to sugary and flighty.

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Nousaine" wrote in message
...
Best Living Pop/Rock Vocalists: IMO

Male: Russell Smith
Ray Charles
C J Chenier

Female: KD Lang
Ruthie Foster


Who are Russell Smith and Ruthie Foster?

Yustabe, are you really too stupid to look up her name in Google?

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:49:00 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Nousaine" wrote in message
...
Best Living Pop/Rock Vocalists: IMO

Male: Russell Smith
Ray Charles
C J Chenier

Female: KD Lang
Ruthie Foster


Who are Russell Smith and Ruthie Foster?

Yustabe, are you really too stupid to look up her name in Google?

So much for the art of conversation.

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:49:00 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Nousaine" wrote in message
...
Best Living Pop/Rock Vocalists: IMO

Male: Russell Smith
Ray Charles
C J Chenier

Female: KD Lang
Ruthie Foster


Who are Russell Smith and Ruthie Foster?

Yustabe, are you really too stupid to look up her name in Google?

So much for the art of conversation.

It's alive and well in places where sadistic jerk-offs like you and Yusatabe
aren't.

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:34:25 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:49:00 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Nousaine" wrote in message
...
Best Living Pop/Rock Vocalists: IMO

Male: Russell Smith
Ray Charles
C J Chenier

Female: KD Lang
Ruthie Foster


Who are Russell Smith and Ruthie Foster?

Yustabe, are you really too stupid to look up her name in Google?

So much for the art of conversation.

It's alive and well in places where sadistic jerk-offs like you and Yusatabe
aren't.

So, tell me Mr. Smarmy - how does *your* suggestion further the art of
conversation? How does it give Tom a chance to discuss the merits of
Ruthie Foster (an artist that *I'm* not familiar with)?

BTW, were you talking about RAH-E, a place you used to chide me about
not posting at? Maybe I *should* post there, since they were smart
enough to toss you out on your ass for being a disruptive and petulant
child.

In article ,
Sandman wrote:

BEST LIVING MALE VOCALIST: Andrea Bocelli

ROTFLMAO!



Joe

In article ,
George M. Middius glanbrok44_at_bonbon.net wrote:


Sandman said:

Glad to see people having fun with this thread.

Most Appallingly Awful Female Vocalist: Norah Jones


I hate to agree with a midget,
but...


Joe

Male: Russell Smith
Ray Charles
C J Chenier

Female: KD Lang
Ruthie Foster


Who are Russell Smith and Ruthie Foster?

Yustabe, are you really too stupid to look up her name in Google?









I bet he is smart enough to know the difference between the artists and the
titles of their recordings when he does. Any more comments on the recording
artist you call "Fold es Eg?" Any thoughts on how their music (chuckle) is
similar to ELP without the use of Google as Cliff Notes?

In article ,
"Sandman" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Sandman" wrote:

Glad to see people having fun with this thread.



Does the male vocalist have to be blind?

I suppose overcoming such a handicap and being able to find your way onstage
could be considered a factor, eh?

The Blind Boys of Alabama would be the best vocal group, then.

Stephen

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 17:03:06 GMT, MINe 109
wrote:

In article ,
"Sandman" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Sandman" wrote:

Glad to see people having fun with this thread.



Does the male vocalist have to be blind?

I suppose overcoming such a handicap and being able to find your way onstage
could be considered a factor, eh?

The Blind Boys of Alabama would be the best vocal group, then.

Only if they do camera commercials.

In article ,
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote:

"Nousaine" wrote in message
...
Best Living Pop/Rock Vocalists: IMO

Male: Russell Smith
Ray Charles
C J Chenier

Female: KD Lang
Ruthie Foster


Who are Russell Smith and Ruthie Foster?

I did the google and found Russell as the lead singer and songwriter for
the Amazing Rhythm Aces.

Stephen

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:34:25 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:49:00 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Nousaine" wrote in message
...
Best Living Pop/Rock Vocalists: IMO

Male: Russell Smith
Ray Charles
C J Chenier

Female: KD Lang
Ruthie Foster


Who are Russell Smith and Ruthie Foster?

Yustabe, are you really too stupid to look up her name in Google?

So much for the art of conversation.

It's alive and well in places where sadistic jerk-offs like you and
Yusatabe aren't.

So, tell me Mr. Smarmy - how does *your* suggestion further the art of
conversation?

Weil, we're speaking in a forum that you routinely trash. Why don't you
further the art of conversation by either departing or cleaning up your act?

How does it give Tom a chance to discuss the merits of
Ruthie Foster (an artist that *I'm* not familiar with)?

I see no serious intent by Yustabe along those lines. If he was serious, he
would have done a little homework.

BTW, were you talking about RAH-E, a place you used to chide me about
not posting at?

If you had a brain Weil, you could answer that question for yourself. Since
you lack the necessary equipment requred to add two and two and get
four-point-zero I'll tell you explicitly: No.

Maybe I *should* post there, since they were smart
enough to toss you out on your ass for being a disruptive and petulant
child.

No, the disruptive and petulent children like Lavo and sockpuppet Wheel
still post there. Therefore, there's no evidence that anybody has been
tossed out on those grounds.

Sandman wrote:
Listening to some music today, it occurred to me that some vocalists are
head and shoulders above others.

Think about who you really like listening to when he or she sings.

Think about raw talent.

Think about musical discipline.

Think about stage presence.

Think about overall performance.

Think about purity and beauty of vocal performance.

Think about pitch, tempo, and all those other "technical" things, but very
basic to coming across as a good vocalist.

MY CHOICES (HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE THE REST):

BEST LIVING MALE VOCALIST: Andrea Bocelli

BEST LIVING FEMALE VOCALIST: Celine Deion

Feel free to feel differently.

Jeanne Lee.
I will denied all "she died".
For the septics listen again "After hours" with Mal Waldron.

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:52:19 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:34:25 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:49:00 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Nousaine" wrote in message
...
Best Living Pop/Rock Vocalists: IMO

Male: Russell Smith
Ray Charles
C J Chenier

Female: KD Lang
Ruthie Foster


Who are Russell Smith and Ruthie Foster?

Yustabe, are you really too stupid to look up her name in Google?

So much for the art of conversation.

It's alive and well in places where sadistic jerk-offs like you and
Yusatabe aren't.

So, tell me Mr. Smarmy - how does *your* suggestion further the art of
conversation?

Weil, we're speaking in a forum that you routinely trash. Why don't you
further the art of conversation by either departing or cleaning up your act?

The rest of the group has been waiting for you to do JUST THAT. Please
avail yourself of that opportunity at the first available moment.

How does it give Tom a chance to discuss the merits of
Ruthie Foster (an artist that *I'm* not familiar with)?

I see no serious intent by Yustabe along those lines. If he was serious, he
would have done a little homework.

Who cares what *you* see, you puffed-up, self-important little weasel
chuckle?

BTW, were you talking about RAH-E, a place you used to chide me about
not posting at?

If you had a brain Weil, you could answer that question for yourself. Since
you lack the necessary equipment requred to add two and two and get
four-point-zero I'll tell you explicitly: No.

I guess that you're confused then.

Maybe I *should* post there, since they were smart
enough to toss you out on your ass for being a disruptive and petulant
child.

No, the disruptive and petulent children like Lavo and sockpuppet Wheel
still post there. Therefore, there's no evidence that anybody has been
tossed out on those grounds.

Thank you for copying me. It's a dubious honor, but it says more about
you than me, I suppose.

And you *were* tossed out on those grounds. That much is indisputable,
as you cam crying on RAO like a kid who had his teddy bear snatched
away. I'll bet that stung for a while. You're the BizarroWorld Sally
Field.

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:52:19 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:34:25 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:49:00 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Nousaine" wrote in message
...
Best Living Pop/Rock Vocalists: IMO

Male: Russell Smith
Ray Charles
C J Chenier

Female: KD Lang
Ruthie Foster


Who are Russell Smith and Ruthie Foster?

Yustabe, are you really too stupid to look up her name in Google?

So much for the art of conversation.

It's alive and well in places where sadistic jerk-offs like you and
Yusatabe aren't.

So, tell me Mr. Smarmy - how does *your* suggestion further the art
of conversation?

Weil, we're speaking in a forum that you routinely trash. Why don't
you further the art of conversation by either departing or cleaning
up your act?

The rest of the group has been waiting for you to do JUST THAT.

Weil, "The group" being composed of whom? Please provide a complete list
their actual legal names and addresses. If you can't, it shows your/their
lack of good faith.

Please avail yourself of that opportunity at the first available moment.

Noting that despite your hopes and dreams Weil, free speech is still the
rule on just about all of Usenet.

How does it give Tom a chance to discuss the merits of
Ruthie Foster (an artist that *I'm* not familiar with)?

I see no serious intent by Yustabe along those lines. If he was
serious, he would have done a little homework.

Who cares what *you* see, you puffed-up, self-important little weasel
chuckle?

You're obviously speaking for yourself, Weil.

BTW, were you talking about RAH-E, a place you used to chide me
about not posting at?

If you had a brain Weil, you could answer that question for
yourself. Since you lack the necessary equipment required to add two
and two and get four-point-zero I'll tell you explicitly: No.

I guess that you're confused then.

Not at all, Weil. It would appear that you would be so highly confused that
I would propose that there be serious conversation on RAHE.

Maybe I *should* post there, since they were smart
enough to toss you out on your ass for being a disruptive and
petulant child.


No, the disruptive and petulant children like Lavo and sockpuppet
Wheel still post there. Therefore, there's no evidence that anybody
has been tossed out on those grounds.

Thank you for copying me.

Say what? Show the text that I allegedly copied?

It's a dubious honor, but it says more about
you than me, I suppose.

When you show the text that I allegedly copied, we can discuss this matter
further.

And you *were* tossed out on those grounds.

Prove it. In fact the one public claim of an infraction on my part by a RAHE
moderator was thoroughly falsified. Furthermore the infraction that he
falsely accused me of was not punishable by exclusion. Furthermore, the RAHE
moderators never notified me that I was just excluded. They just programmed
their webot to throw away my posts without notice or explanation, as they
had been doing randomly for weeks and weeks.

That much is indisputable,

Shows how poorly you understand the word "indisputable", Weil.

as you cam crying on RAO like a kid who had his teddy bear snatched away.

I did no such thing.

I'll bet that stung for a while.

Not at all. It was effectively a promotion.

You're the BizarroWorld Sally

No mirrors in your house, eh Weil?

Got any more lies to tell?
Field.

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:25:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Weil, we're speaking in a forum that you routinely trash. Why don't
you further the art of conversation by either departing or cleaning
up your act?

The rest of the group has been waiting for you to do JUST THAT.

Weil, "The group" being composed of whom? Please provide a complete list
their actual legal names and addresses. If you can't, it shows your/their
lack of good faith.

Please avail yourself of that opportunity at the first available moment.

Noting that despite your hopes and dreams Weil, free speech is still the
rule on just about all of Usenet.

Hypocrisy noted!

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:25:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Weil, we're speaking in a forum that you routinely trash. Why don't
you further the art of conversation by either departing or cleaning
up your act?

The rest of the group has been waiting for you to do JUST THAT.

Weil, "The group" being composed of whom? Please provide a complete
list their actual legal names and addresses. If you can't, it shows
your/their lack of good faith.

No relevant response.

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:25:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Not at all, Weil. It would appear that you would be so highly confused that
I would propose that there be serious conversation on RAHE.

Boy, *that's* certainly a change of opinion.

http://tinyurl.com/2wojl

(too much juicy stuff there to quote here...)

I especially *love* this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2845f

"and too on topic and civil.
And you contribute to the civility around here exactly how? By calling
people idiots? Do you think that they'd tolerate that over there at
RAHE?
You need to get out more. I have stuff on RAHE all the time.

The bottom line is that those who can, do and those who can't have
plenty of excuses".

I guess that you're now the one who *can't* and you've got plenty of
excuses. Plus, there's that great misplaced comma to chuckle at.

Then there's the previous lauding of RAH-E:

http://tinyurl.com/22lkl

"RAO is unique in terms of how extremely dysfunctional it is. RAO is
so dysfunctional that Usenet has even created two newsgroups whose
charters prohibit most if not all of the warfare on RAO, one
moderated (RAHE) and one not (AAE). Both are far more successful than
RAO, by most reasonable criteria".

Gotta love Google...

No, the disruptive and petulent children like Lavo and sockpuppet Wheel
still post there. Therefore, there's no evidence that anybody has been
tossed out on those grounds.


Here is a clue for you. None of the moderators have ever publically infered
that we were assholes. You can't catch a clue even when it bites you in the
ass.

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:25:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Not at all, Weil. It would appear that you would be so highly
confused that I would propose that there be serious conversation on
RAHE.

Boy, *that's* certainly a change of opinion.

http://tinyurl.com/2wojl

(too much juicy stuff there to quote here...)

I especially *love* this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2845f

Date: 2001-09-06 13:20:03 PST

Yet another one of David Weil's previously unwritten rules - you can't
change your opinions, even over a period of several years. OTOH, he can
change his whenever his bowels (or whatever he thinks with) move...

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

No, the disruptive and petulant children like Lavo and sockpuppet
Wheel still post there. Therefore, there's no evidence that anybody
has been tossed out on those grounds.


Here is a clue for you. None of the moderators have ever publically
infered that we were assholes.

I'm quite sure that the RAHE moderators have never publically infered
anything.

Nice job of obfuscating their private observations.

You can't catch a clue even when it bites you in the ass.

I have sufficient inventory of clues that I don't need to catch any more at
the moment.

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:41:45 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:25:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Weil, we're speaking in a forum that you routinely trash. Why don't
you further the art of conversation by either departing or cleaning
up your act?

The rest of the group has been waiting for you to do JUST THAT.

Weil, "The group" being composed of whom? Please provide a complete
list their actual legal names and addresses. If you can't, it shows
your/their lack of good faith.

No relevant response.

Just like there was no "relevant response" to your lies about my
MG-1s. So what?

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:49:38 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:25:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Not at all, Weil. It would appear that you would be so highly
confused that I would propose that there be serious conversation on
RAHE.

Boy, *that's* certainly a change of opinion.

http://tinyurl.com/2wojl

(too much juicy stuff there to quote here...)

I especially *love* this one:

http://tinyurl.com/2845f

Date: 2001-09-06 13:20:03 PST

Yet another one of David Weil's previously unwritten rules - you can't
change your opinions, even over a period of several years. OTOH, he can
change his whenever his bowels (or whatever he thinks with) move...

Spoken just like the little boy expelled from the adults' table
because he was disruptive. "I didn't want to be here anyway!
WAHHHHHH!"