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.... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See you
then. :-)~


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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 06:32:30 GMT, "Sandman"
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... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See you
then. :-)~


And how about the rumor that Bush is going to choose Giuliani as *his*
running mate?

Now *that's* bare knuckle politics!
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Sandy reprises her swan song one more time:

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See you
then. :-)~


Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Bozo!

You made a real clown of yourself these past few months with your
rah-rah cheerleading for Howard 'Primal Scream' Dean.

Being the whacked-out long-in-the-tooth 60s radical that you are, ain't
you gonna throw your inconsequential support to 'Hanoi John' Kerry?

BWAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAA!!!!!!!!


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Sandman wrote:

... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See you
then. :-)~


Nope. Anything can happen with all of the large states still
open AND the possibility that one of the other candidates will
throw their votes/support to another candidate at the last minute.

Wait until Texas, NY, Florida, Illinois, and California are
all in. I fail to see why they get so worked up over all of
the small states early on. A win in California for Dean, for
instance...

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"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
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Sandman wrote:

... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses

Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave

you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See

you
then. :-)~


Nope. Anything can happen with all of the large states still
open AND the possibility that one of the other candidates will
throw their votes/support to another candidate at the last minute.

Wait until Texas, NY, Florida, Illinois, and California are
all in. I fail to see why they get so worked up over all of
the small states early on. A win in California for Dean, for
instance...


True, but everyone thought Tennesee and Virginia were a tossup between
Edward and Clark. As disappointed as I am, it appears the Kerry juggernaut
is unstoppable. Main reason: record numbers of Dems are voting in the
primaries primarily because the despise Bush and see Kerry as the most
"electable", whatever the f*** that's supposed to mean. The only really
good news is that Edwards is still going strong, he could win or be the VP,
and as the most articulate spokesman since JFK and RFK, he could demolish
Cheney in any public debate. At this point, Kerry has learned enough from
Dean and Edwards that he could cause Bush to go through a total meltdown in
any debate.

Besides, Bushco is going to continue to self-destruct as more and more of
their slime becomes public in the next 8-9 months. Kerry and Edwards know
how to campaign and speak effectively in public, which Dean never learned to
do, beyond his summer stump rally speaches.

Bottom line: Bushco is toast. Record numbers of Democrats are activated
enoughtto go to the polls, and anytime that happens, Republicans lose, and
lose big. We have one person to thank for that: George W. Bush.




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"Sandman" wrote in message ...
... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See you
then. :-)~


Given your spectacular failure as a prognosticator as well as
demonstrating a level of naive idiocy not seen here since Zipser's
prime, I'd say your self-imposed banishmnet is just about right...

Wesley Clark would be proud of you, Sandi.
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... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See

you
then. :-)~



Considering Edward's poor performance in the South,
I don't think he will be his running mate.
I have heard talk about Gov. Warner of Virginia.
I think picking a governor over another Senator
would be a good idea. Of course, Warner
is another taxeholic.




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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 06:32:30 GMT, "Sandman"
wrote:

... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses

Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave

you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See

you
then. :-)~


And how about the rumor that Bush is going to choose Giuliani as *his*
running mate?

Now *that's* bare knuckle politics!


WOW, you realize, if Bush wins reelection,
it would set up the long awaited Hiilary/Guiliani
matchup we never got for the NY Senate race.
A battle of the Titans. And two very mean people.
To fill out the ticket, one ought to pick Leona Hemsley
and the other pick Martha Stewart for VP's.




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"Sandman" wrote in message
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... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See

you
then. :-)~



Considering Edward's poor performance in the South,
I don't think he will be his running mate.
I have heard talk about Gov. Warner of Virginia.
I think picking a governor over another Senator
would be a good idea. Of course, Warner
is another taxeholic.




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Another Governor option might well be Bill Richardson of New Mexico, a
well-respected Hispanic Democrat who has worn a number of different hats, and
might presumably eat into some of Bush's support among Hispanics (although not
in Florida, unfortunately).


Bruce J. Richman



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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:19:26 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
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"dave weil" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 06:32:30 GMT, "Sandman"
wrote:

... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses

Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave

you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See

you
then. :-)~


And how about the rumor that Bush is going to choose Giuliani as *his*
running mate?

Now *that's* bare knuckle politics!


WOW, you realize, if Bush wins reelection,
it would set up the long awaited Hiilary/Guiliani
matchup we never got for the NY Senate race.
A battle of the Titans. And two very mean people.
To fill out the ticket, one ought to pick Leona Hemsley
and the other pick Martha Stewart for VP's.


The choice of Giuliani as VP would be a masterstroke for the
Republicans, *if* Rudy could be convinced to become VP (that's almost
a demotion). However, since it's fairly likely that he's a prime GOP
candidate for Prez in the next 8 years or so, this might be perfect to
fulfil his ambitions, so it might not take a lot of arm-twisting. it
would position him to succeed President Bush, *if* Bush gets elected.


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Sandman wrote:

"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
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Sandman wrote:


... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses


Edwards

as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave


you

all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See


you

then. :-)~


Nope. Anything can happen with all of the large states still
open AND the possibility that one of the other candidates will
throw their votes/support to another candidate at the last minute.

Wait until Texas, NY, Florida, Illinois, and California are
all in. I fail to see why they get so worked up over all of
the small states early on. A win in California for Dean, for
instance...



True, but everyone thought Tennesee and Virginia were a tossup between
Edward and Clark. As disappointed as I am, it appears the Kerry juggernaut
is unstoppable. Main reason: record numbers of Dems are voting in the
primaries primarily because the despise Bush and see Kerry as the most
"electable", whatever the f*** that's supposed to mean. The only really
good news is that Edwards is still going strong, he could win or be the VP,
and as the most articulate spokesman since JFK and RFK, he could demolish
Cheney in any public debate. At this point, Kerry has learned enough from
Dean and Edwards that he could cause Bush to go through a total meltdown in
any debate.

Besides, Bushco is going to continue to self-destruct as more and more of
their slime becomes public in the next 8-9 months. Kerry and Edwards know
how to campaign and speak effectively in public, which Dean never learned to
do, beyond his summer stump rally speaches.

Bottom line: Bushco is toast. Record numbers of Democrats are activated
enoughtto go to the polls, and anytime that happens, Republicans lose, and
lose big. We have one person to thank for that: George W. Bush.


Oh, we can guarantee that Florida, New York, California, and Illinios
are a foregone conclusion - those votes go to the Dems reguardless if
they don't spend a day campaigning in those states based upon the
primary turnouts. Florida surely isn't going to be fooled and hoodwinked
by the governor and his cronies again. You can expect record numbers of
****ed off edlerly democrats who still feel the sting from the last
election's mess to march into the polls and tripple-check every single
ballot.

Oh - btw - most people don't know that until you turn the ballot in,
you can always request a new one if you mess up. That needs to be
spread around to the voters as well. Of course, in California, it's
all computerized now - which is good in a sense, but one hacker...


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Another Governor option might well be Bill Richardson of New Mexico, a
well-respected Hispanic Democrat who has worn a number of different hats, and
might presumably eat into some of Bush's support among Hispanics (although not
in Florida, unfortunately).


That seems like a good choice to me - beat Bush at his own game and
get the southwest vote. We all know the south's vote is going to be
largely democrat in this election, but in the middle and southwest
(CA excepted), it's anybody's game.

The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)

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Joseph Oberlander wrote:


Sandman wrote:

"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
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Sandman wrote:


... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses


Edwards

as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave


you

all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See


you

then. :-)~

Nope. Anything can happen with all of the large states still
open AND the possibility that one of the other candidates will
throw their votes/support to another candidate at the last minute.

Wait until Texas, NY, Florida, Illinois, and California are
all in. I fail to see why they get so worked up over all of
the small states early on. A win in California for Dean, for
instance...



True, but everyone thought Tennesee and Virginia were a tossup between
Edward and Clark. As disappointed as I am, it appears the Kerry juggernaut
is unstoppable. Main reason: record numbers of Dems are voting in the
primaries primarily because the despise Bush and see Kerry as the most
"electable", whatever the f*** that's supposed to mean. The only really
good news is that Edwards is still going strong, he could win or be the VP,
and as the most articulate spokesman since JFK and RFK, he could demolish
Cheney in any public debate. At this point, Kerry has learned enough from
Dean and Edwards that he could cause Bush to go through a total meltdown in
any debate.

Besides, Bushco is going to continue to self-destruct as more and more of
their slime becomes public in the next 8-9 months. Kerry and Edwards know
how to campaign and speak effectively in public, which Dean never learned

to
do, beyond his summer stump rally speaches.

Bottom line: Bushco is toast. Record numbers of Democrats are activated
enoughtto go to the polls, and anytime that happens, Republicans lose, and
lose big. We have one person to thank for that: George W. Bush.


Oh, we can guarantee that Florida, New York, California, and Illinios
are a foregone conclusion - those votes go to the Dems reguardless if
they don't spend a day campaigning in those states based upon the
primary turnouts. Florida surely isn't going to be fooled and hoodwinked
by the governor and his cronies again. You can expect record numbers of
****ed off edlerly democrats who still feel the sting from the last
election's mess to march into the polls and tripple-check every single
ballot.


While I agree with you that most of the elderly Democrats will turn out in
higher numbers to vote against Bush, one unfortunate possible offsetting
variable in Florida is the everincreasing number of Hispanic voters, especially
those from Cuba, who invariably vote for Republicans because of the perceived
lack of toughness amongst Democrats when it comes to dealing with the Castro
regime. This issue seems to dominate their thinking above all the more
"domestic" issues that others care about more.



Oh - btw - most people don't know that until you turn the ballot in,
you can always request a new one if you mess up. That needs to be
spread around to the voters as well. Of course, in California, it's
all computerized now - which is good in a sense, but one hacker...








Bruce J. Richman



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"Sandman" wrote in message ...
... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See you
then. :-)~



Should we expect the same credibility in this post as demonstrated by this post?

Message ID:

Perhaps we should just chalk that one up to senility.

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The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)


What preferential treatment do they get over you?


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The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)


What preferential treatment do they get over you?








I can't comment on California, but in many parts of Florida, Hispanics may get
preferential treatment as re. jobs, in which bilingualism is required.



Bruce J. Richman



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I can't comment on California, but in many parts of Florida, Hispanics may
get
preferential treatment as re. jobs, in which bilingualism is required.


One can be bilingual without being hispanic.
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I can't comment on California, but in many parts of Florida, Hispanics may
get
preferential treatment as re. jobs, in which bilingualism is required.


One can be bilingual without being hispanic.








Of course, but the probabilities of being bilingual with Spanish as a second
language are higher among Hispanics. Also, in parts of South Florida the
majority population is Hispanic.



Bruce J. Richman



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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
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Art wrote:


"Sandman" wrote in message
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... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses

Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political

postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave

you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See

you
then. :-)~



Considering Edward's poor performance in the South,
I don't think he will be his running mate.
I have heard talk about Gov. Warner of Virginia.
I think picking a governor over another Senator
would be a good idea. Of course, Warner
is another taxeholic.




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Another Governor option might well be Bill Richardson of New Mexico, a
well-respected Hispanic Democrat who has worn a number of different hats,

and
might presumably eat into some of Bush's support among Hispanics (although

not
in Florida, unfortunately).



A logical choice. Though he wasn't a bang up energy secretary.




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Bruce J. Richman wrote:


Another Governor option might well be Bill Richardson of New Mexico, a
well-respected Hispanic Democrat who has worn a number of different

hats, and
might presumably eat into some of Bush's support among Hispanics

(although not
in Florida, unfortunately).


That seems like a good choice to me - beat Bush at his own game and
get the southwest vote. We all know the south's vote is going to be
largely democrat in this election, but in the middle and southwest
(CA excepted), it's anybody's game.

The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)


That's ok, your guv is a close ethnic cousin.




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The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)


What preferential treatment do they get over you?


Who knows? Obie might be facing deportation.




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Joseph Oberlander said:

The untaped hispanic vote


What on earth are you yapping about?



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S888Wheel wrote:

The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)



What preferential treatment do they get over you?


Oh man - where to start... Just do a search online for government
programs for minorities. The problem is that once you are declared
a minority, nobody ever checks to see if it's true a couple of
decades later. Caucasian is of course, exempted from the process,
so that even if you are eventually 10%, you're never a minority.

Um - what about an even playing field? This isn't 1950 afterall.

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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message
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The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)


What preferential treatment do they get over you?



Who knows? Obie might be facing deportation.


No big loss. One dirthole is pretty much the same as any other.
Of course, this comes from living in L.A. for 15 years. Ecch.
I could probably move to Cairo and live in just as nasty a place.

(ex and child keeps me here - otherwise I'd leave a smoking trail
out of the state in seconds)

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The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)



What preferential treatment do they get over you?




Oh man - where to start...


How about with one example that actually affects you.

Just do a search online for government
programs for minorities.


I'd rather have you tell me how you have suffered from the prefferential
treatment of hispanics or any other minority.

. Just do a search online for government
programs for minorities. The problem is that once you are declared
a minority, nobody ever checks to see if it's true a couple of
decades later. Caucasian is of course, exempted from the process,
so that even if you are eventually 10%, you're never a minority.


I think you are not really understanding the concept of minority in this issue.
It isn't a matter of numbers. It is a matter of descrimination suffered by
certain groups.



Um - what about an even playing field? This isn't 1950 afterall.


I am all in favor of *real* even playing fields. Maybe you can cite an example
of how you are playing on field tilted against you?


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I can't comment on California, but in many parts of Florida, Hispanics may
get
preferential treatment as re. jobs, in which bilingualism is required.


One can be bilingual without being hispanic.








Of course, but the probabilities of being bilingual with Spanish as a second
language are higher among Hispanics. Also, in parts of South Florida the
majority population is Hispanic.


If Hispanics have a higher probablilty of being bilingual and that is a job
skill good for them. But if that is the requirement for the job rather than
being Hispanic per se then there is no preferential treatment for being
Hispanic. If there is then it is illegal.
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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message
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The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)

What preferential treatment do they get over you?



Who knows? Obie might be facing deportation.


No big loss. One dirthole is pretty much the same as any other.
Of course, this comes from living in L.A. for 15 years. Ecch.
I could probably move to Cairo and live in just as nasty a place.

(ex and child keeps me here - otherwise I'd leave a smoking trail
out of the state in seconds)


This explains your bitterness.

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S888Wheel wrote:

The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)



What preferential treatment do they get over you?


Oh man - where to start... Just do a search online for government
programs for minorities. The problem is that once you are declared
a minority, nobody ever checks to see if it's true a couple of
decades later. Caucasian is of course, exempted from the process,
so that even if you are eventually 10%, you're never a minority.

Um - what about an even playing field? This isn't 1950 afterall.


Do minorities change their color or sex every ten years??
Well, maybe sex, they could do that





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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:23:21 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
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"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
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S888Wheel wrote:

The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)


What preferential treatment do they get over you?


Oh man - where to start... Just do a search online for government
programs for minorities. The problem is that once you are declared
a minority, nobody ever checks to see if it's true a couple of
decades later. Caucasian is of course, exempted from the process,
so that even if you are eventually 10%, you're never a minority.

Um - what about an even playing field? This isn't 1950 afterall.


Do minorities change their color or sex every ten years??
Well, maybe sex, they could do that


More importantly accumulated wealth wasn't redistributed. Even if it
were true that things were fair going forward, the advantages of
accumulated wealth would overwhelmingly accrue to those who were, all
else equal, not descended from slaves or subject to Jim Crow or other
forms of discrimination.

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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

Do minorities change their color or sex every ten years??
Well, maybe sex, they could do that


Does Michael Jackson count?

GZ



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S888Wheel wrote:


I'd rather have you tell me how you have suffered from the prefferential
treatment of hispanics or any other minority.


It's not a matter of whether or not you personally suffered so much
as what incentives they get that I do not.

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ScottW wrote:

Joseph Oberlander wrote in message nk.net...

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:


"S888Wheel" wrote in message
...


The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)

What preferential treatment do they get over you?


Who knows? Obie might be facing deportation.


No big loss. One dirthole is pretty much the same as any other.
Of course, this comes from living in L.A. for 15 years. Ecch.
I could probably move to Cairo and live in just as nasty a place.

(ex and child keeps me here - otherwise I'd leave a smoking trail
out of the state in seconds)



This explains your bitterness.


Well, California sucks. Try starting a business in this hellhole.

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Glenn Zelniker wrote:

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

Do minorities change their color or sex every ten years??
Well, maybe sex, they could do that



Does Michael Jackson count?


Heh. Seriously - he just needs to get it over with and finish
his transition.

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I'd rather have you tell me how you have suffered from the prefferential
treatment of hispanics or any other minority.


It's not a matter of whether or not you personally suffered so much
as what incentives they get that I do not.


What incentives do they get that you do not? How does this adversly affect the
quality of your life?
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Well, California sucks. Try starting a business in this hellhole.


I did and it continues to succeed.


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Yustabe said:

"Sandman" wrote in message
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... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See

you
then. :-)~



Considering Edward's poor performance in the South,
I don't think he will be his running mate.
I have heard talk about Gov. Warner of Virginia.
I think picking a governor over another Senator
would be a good idea. Of course, Warner
is another taxeholic.




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"Sandman" wrote in message
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... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See

you
then. :-)~



Considering Edward's poor performance in the South,
I don't think he will be his running mate.
I have heard talk about Gov. Warner of Virginia.
I think picking a governor over another Senator
would be a good idea. Of course, Warner
is another taxeholic.


He's also as old as the hills. Edwards makes more sense because he's energetic
and youthful. Warner was a grumpy old man twenty years ago.

Boon
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Marc Phillips said:

Of course, Warner is another taxeholic.


He's also as old as the hills. Edwards makes more sense because he's energetic
and youthful. Warner was a grumpy old man twenty years ago.


I think you've confused Sen. John Warner (R) with Gov. Mark Warner (D).



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(Marc Phillips) wrote in message ...
Yustabe said:

"Sandman" wrote in message
...
... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See

you
then. :-)~



Considering Edward's poor performance in the South,
I don't think he will be his running mate.
I have heard talk about Gov. Warner of Virginia.
I think picking a governor over another Senator
would be a good idea. Of course, Warner
is another taxeholic.




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"Sandman" wrote in message
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... I think all that's really left is to find out if Kerry chooses Edwards
as his running mate. I hope so.

So, as Dean's performance during 2003 inspired all my political postings
here, and since his campaign has obviously fizzled, I guess I'll leave you
all alone until the real fight begins next July and ends next Nov. See

you
then. :-)~



Considering Edward's poor performance in the South,
I don't think he will be his running mate.
I have heard talk about Gov. Warner of Virginia.
I think picking a governor over another Senator
would be a good idea. Of course, Warner
is another taxeholic.


He's also as old as the hills. Edwards makes more sense because he's energetic
and youthful. Warner was a grumpy old man twenty years ago.

Boon


Are you confusing Mark Warner with John Warner?
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"George M. Middius" wrote in message
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Marc Phillips said:

Of course, Warner is another taxeholic.


He's also as old as the hills. Edwards makes more sense because he's

energetic
and youthful. Warner was a grumpy old man twenty years ago.


I think you've confused Sen. John Warner (R) with Gov. Mark Warner (D).


What do you expect from a west coaster?




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"Jacob Kramer" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:23:21 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
nk.net...
S888Wheel wrote:

The untaped hispanic vote in the U.S. is *huge* - awe-inspiring
in fact. I'm now a minority in California according to the recent
census, if not legally(darn it - they outnumber me and still
get preferental treatment - sure feels fair to me)


What preferential treatment do they get over you?

Oh man - where to start... Just do a search online for government
programs for minorities. The problem is that once you are declared
a minority, nobody ever checks to see if it's true a couple of
decades later. Caucasian is of course, exempted from the process,
so that even if you are eventually 10%, you're never a minority.

Um - what about an even playing field? This isn't 1950 afterall.


Do minorities change their color or sex every ten years??
Well, maybe sex, they could do that


More importantly accumulated wealth wasn't redistributed.


Not for lack of trying.

Even if it
were true that things were fair going forward, the advantages of
accumulated wealth would overwhelmingly accrue to those who were, all
else equal, not descended from slaves or subject to Jim Crow or other
forms of discrimination.

--

Jacob Kramer


So, nobody here starts from nothing and gets rich through their own efforts?
There are no rich minorities?

Better check your facts.


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