No wonder of it: sheer plod makes plough down silicon
Shine, and blue-bleak embers, ah my dear,
Fall, gall themselves, and gash gold-vermillion.

-- Gerard Manley Hopkins, The Windhover

Jesuits are known for being exceedingly clever but this Hopkins is
something else altogether. He is not only a tube fancier, he is
remarkably prescient about the Plodding Ps which infest these
conferences and their silicon delusions -- "blue-bleak embers" is a
touchstone description of that chilling, greyed-out silicon sound. And
when they stumble and wound their pride and joy, they gash (gall,
windgall aka windpuff, which is an injury to a horse's ass -- brilliant
chain of associations!) the protruding heatsinks anodized in
pretentious gold and scarlet. An image "ah my dear" to warm the heart
of any redblooded tubie!

Andre Jute
Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
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for the tube audio constructor"
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"an unbelievably comprehensive web site
containing vital gems of wisdom"
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"Andre Jute" wrote in message
oups.com...
No wonder of it: sheer plod makes plough down silicon
Shine, and blue-bleak embers, ah my dear,
Fall, gall themselves, and gash gold-vermillion.

-- Gerard Manley Hopkins, The Windhover

Jesuits are known for being exceedingly clever but this Hopkins is
something else altogether. He is not only a tube fancier, he is
remarkably prescient about the Plodding Ps which infest these
conferences and their silicon delusions -- "blue-bleak embers" is a
touchstone description of that chilling, greyed-out silicon sound. And
when they stumble and wound their pride and joy, they gash (gall,
windgall aka windpuff, which is an injury to a horse's ass -- brilliant
chain of associations!) the protruding heatsinks anodized in
pretentious gold and scarlet. An image "ah my dear" to warm the heart
of any redblooded tubie!

Andre Jute
Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
"wonderfully well written and reasoned information
for the tube audio constructor"
John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare
"an unbelievably comprehensive web site
containing vital gems of wisdom"
Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review


Alas I don't see the connection between Audiophiles and Jesuits

Jem


----------------------------------------------------
Dramatised - Photography
Granularised - Photographs
Black and White - Prints
Blue and White - Cyanotypes
http://jemraid.wikispaces.com/

Jem Raid wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message
oups.com...
No wonder of it: sheer plod makes plough down silicon
Shine, and blue-bleak embers, ah my dear,
Fall, gall themselves, and gash gold-vermillion.

-- Gerard Manley Hopkins, The Windhover

Jesuits are known for being exceedingly clever but this Hopkins is
something else altogether. He is not only a tube fancier, he is
remarkably prescient about the Plodding Ps which infest these
conferences and their silicon delusions -- "blue-bleak embers" is a
touchstone description of that chilling, greyed-out silicon sound. And
when they stumble and wound their pride and joy, they gash (gall,
windgall aka windpuff, which is an injury to a horse's ass -- brilliant
chain of associations!) the protruding heatsinks anodized in
pretentious gold and scarlet. An image "ah my dear" to warm the heart
of any redblooded tubie!

Andre Jute
Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
"wonderfully well written and reasoned information
for the tube audio constructor"
John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare
"an unbelievably comprehensive web site
containing vital gems of wisdom"
Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review


Alas I don't see the connection between Audiophiles and Jesuits

Jem


----------------------------------------------------
Dramatised - Photography
Granularised - Photographs
Black and White - Prints
Blue and White - Cyanotypes
http://jemraid.wikispaces.com/

There's no "connection between Jesuits and audiophiles". I don't do
generics; it is enough to lave them to the silicon slime. There is a
clear connection between a particular Jesuit and the audiophile
persausion, as I have disclosed above from parsing his own text.

I might pick the same nits you try to infect me with about your sig.
No, my dear fellow, I have worked in the theatre (and television and
films for that matter) and the only dramatization is not photography.
And if your photographs are all "granularised" (perhaps you mean
"granulated", in which case I would advise you not to put your coffee
on your work while you add sugar), you can't be much of a photographer.
As for black and white being only prints, fah chrisesake, this is the
twenty-first century: you can say "minstrels" aloud. And, while we're
about it, why should blue and whites be limited to Cyanotypes; the cops
will have something about that, as will the Delftware subchapter of the
Crockery Collectors of the Universe. If you want to throw stones, don't
stack them up at convenient overarm distance from your own glasshouse.

Welcome to the nuttier fringe of hi-fi.

Andre Jute
Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
"wonderfully well written and reasoned information
for the tube audio constructor"
John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare
"an unbelievably comprehensive web site
containing vital gems of wisdom"
Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review

On 22 Apr 2006 17:34:19 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:


conferences and their silicon delusions -- "blue-bleak embers" is a
touchstone description of that chilling, greyed-out silicon sound. And
when they stumble and wound their pride and joy, they gash (gall,

As for black and white being only prints, fah chrisesake, this is the
twenty-first century: you can say "minstrels" aloud. And, while we're
about it, why should blue and whites be limited to Cyanotypes; the cops
will have something about that, as will the Delftware subchapter of the
Crockery Collectors of the Universe. If you want to throw stones, don't
stack them up at convenient overarm distance from your own glasshouse.

Welcome to the nuttier fringe of hi-fi.

Andre Jute

I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone?
:-)

"paul packer" wrote in message
...
On 22 Apr 2006 17:34:19 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:


conferences and their silicon delusions -- "blue-bleak embers" is a
touchstone description of that chilling, greyed-out silicon sound. And
when they stumble and wound their pride and joy, they gash (gall,

As for black and white being only prints, fah chrisesake, this is the
twenty-first century: you can say "minstrels" aloud. And, while we're
about it, why should blue and whites be limited to Cyanotypes; the cops
will have something about that, as will the Delftware subchapter of the
Crockery Collectors of the Universe. If you want to throw stones, don't
stack them up at convenient overarm distance from your own glasshouse.

Welcome to the nuttier fringe of hi-fi.

Andre Jute

I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone?
:-)
There is an expression, "jesuitical reasoning", which is identical to, but
preceded the "R.A.O. Debating Trade" by several hundred years:
http://www.swrb.com/newslett/actualNLs/relliars.htm

"soundhaspriority" wrote in message
...

"paul packer" wrote in message
...
On 22 Apr 2006 17:34:19 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:


conferences and their silicon delusions -- "blue-bleak embers" is a
touchstone description of that chilling, greyed-out silicon sound.
And
when they stumble and wound their pride and joy, they gash (gall,

As for black and white being only prints, fah chrisesake, this is the
twenty-first century: you can say "minstrels" aloud. And, while we're
about it, why should blue and whites be limited to Cyanotypes; the cops
will have something about that, as will the Delftware subchapter of the
Crockery Collectors of the Universe. If you want to throw stones, don't
stack them up at convenient overarm distance from your own glasshouse.

Welcome to the nuttier fringe of hi-fi.

Andre Jute

I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone?
:-)
There is an expression, "jesuitical reasoning", which is identical to, but
preceded the "R.A.O. Debating Trade" by several hundred years:
http://www.swrb.com/newslett/actualNLs/relliars.htm


Ohhh!

I think Granularised sounds much better than Granulated
After all they are 'ised rather than 'ated.

And as for my name, I am from Birmingham UK.

Jem


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Interesting granularised (granulated, translation for Andre) Cyanotype, or
Blue Print
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20619005@N00/130957974/

In article ,
paul packer wrote:
I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone?

I often wonder where he gets his 'silicon slime' free recordings to enjoy
on his tubes. Perhaps he records everything himself on a Revox G36?

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paul packer wrote:


I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone? :-)

It's Andre being brilliantly funny without being malicious, for a change.
Though he is mistaken in his interpretation, as Hopkins was obviously
criticizing valves. Silicon refers to the glass of the tube; shine, blue-bleak,
embers, vermillion, to his problems with heating his cathodes. He would have
known of the work of Guthrie and Edison, but transistors were still a pipe-dream.

Further proof is found in his 'The Candle Indoors' where he bemoans the
short lifespan of valves and has a sly dig at fans of tetrodes:

Come you indoors, come home; your fading fire
Mend first and vital candle in close heart’s vault:
You there are master, do your own desire;
What hinders? Are you beam-blind, yet to a fault
In a neighbour deft-handed? Are you that liar
And, cast by conscience out, spendsavour salt?

I think John Donne wrote a poem about the use of a long-tailed pair as a
phase-splitter.

--
Eiron

No good deed ever goes unpunished.

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:37:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
paul packer wrote:
I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone?

I often wonder where he gets his 'silicon slime' free recordings to enjoy
on his tubes. Perhaps he records everything himself on a Revox G36?

Why would you assume that he is either rational or consistent?
Besides, it's a plain fact that there's a lot more silicon in one of
his tube amps than in any solid state amp. It's what glass is made
from.

So, the *real* 'silicon slime' is Jute himself! :-)

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In rec.audio.opinion Andre Jute wrote:

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
There's no "connection between Jesuits and audiophiles". I don't do
generics; it is enough to lave them to the silicon slime. There is a
clear connection between a particular Jesuit and the audiophile
persausion, as I have disclosed above from parsing his own text.

You're a mental case.

___
-S
"Excuse me? What solid proof do you have that I'm insane?" - soundhaspriority

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I often wonder where he gets his 'silicon slime' free recordings to enjoy
on his tubes. Perhaps he records everything himself on a Revox G36?

Most any vinyl recorded before 1965 or so is likely "free of silicon".
Or geranium. Recording studios and master cutters used tubes before then.

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:37:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:


In article ,
paul packer wrote:

I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone?

I often wonder where he gets his 'silicon slime' free recordings to enjoy
on his tubes. Perhaps he records everything himself on a Revox G36?


Why would you assume that he is either rational or consistent?
Besides, it's a plain fact that there's a lot more silicon in one of
his tube amps than in any solid state amp. It's what glass is made
from.

So, the *real* 'silicon slime' is Jute himself! :-)


I don't think he's even seen silicon otherwise he'd recognise the
"blue-bleak embers" description as that of the colour of silicon
and not some metaphor for sound.

In article . net,
robert casey wrote:
I often wonder where he gets his 'silicon slime' free recordings to
enjoy on his tubes. Perhaps he records everything himself on a Revox
G36?

Most any vinyl recorded before 1965 or so is likely "free of silicon".
Or geranium. Recording studios and master cutters used tubes before
then.

True. But then with the inherent distortion of vinyl it doesn't much
matter. And the 1/4" master will have removed all the transients anyway.

--
*Rehab is for quitters.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Eiron wrote:
paul packer wrote:


I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone? :-)


It's Andre being brilliantly funny without being malicious, for a change.
Though he is mistaken in his interpretation, as Hopkins was obviously
criticizing valves. Silicon refers to the glass of the tube; shine,
blue-bleak,
embers, vermillion, to his problems with heating his cathodes. He would
have
known of the work of Guthrie and Edison, but transistors were still a
pipe-dream.

Further proof is found in his 'The Candle Indoors' where he bemoans the
short lifespan of valves and has a sly dig at fans of tetrodes:

Come you indoors, come home; your fading fire
Mend first and vital candle in close heart’s vault:
You there are master, do your own desire;
What hinders? Are you beam-blind, yet to a fault
In a neighbour deft-handed? Are you that liar
And, cast by conscience out, spendsavour salt?

I think John Donne wrote a poem about the use of a long-tailed pair as a
phase-splitter.



Jesus didn't appear to like tetrodes all that much either:

"Why do you see the speck of chaff that is in your brother's eye, but
don't consider the beam that is in your own eye?"

Steven Sullivan wrote:
In rec.audio.opinion Andre Jute wrote:

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
There's no "connection between Jesuits and audiophiles". I don't do
generics; it is enough to lave them to the silicon slime. There is a
clear connection between a particular Jesuit and the audiophile
persausion, as I have disclosed above from parsing his own text.

You're a mental case.


Well, that certainly cleared up the mystery. :-)

paul packer said to Sillybot:

You're a mental case.

Well, that certainly cleared up the mystery. :-)

Don't forget that Stupey also thinks Arnii Krooborg is a "scientist". ;-)





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paul packer said to Sillybot:

You're a mental case.

Well, that certainly cleared up the mystery. :-)

Don't forget that Stupey also thinks Arnii Krooborg is a "scientist". ;-)


He isn't even a real engineer.



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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:29:52 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:

paul packer said to Sillybot:

You're a mental case.

Well, that certainly cleared up the mystery. :-)

Don't forget that Stupey also thinks Arnii Krooborg is a "scientist". ;-)

No I don't, but I think that Hiddius is stuck at age seven..........

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Drunkie, you're falling to "attention" before the Sober Up Now orders are
given.

Don't forget that Stupey also thinks Arnii Krooborg is a "scientist". ;-)

No I don't, but I think that Hiddius is stuck at age seven..........

Just to clarify, you're not Stupey. You're Pukey, or Drunkie, or Stinkie.
OK?






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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:34:40 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:

Drunkie, you're falling to "attention" before the Sober Up Now orders are
given.

Don't forget that Stupey also thinks Arnii Krooborg is a "scientist". ;-)

No I don't, but I think that Hiddius is stuck at age seven..........

Just to clarify, you're not Stupey. You're Pukey, or Drunkie, or Stinkie.
OK?

Just to clarify, who cares? You're irrelevant, which is not a big grey
thing with a long trunk - that's a Cadillac.

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"Pukey Stinkerton, reporting for duty!" hic "No I am not drrrunk Sarge,
boot I'll tail you a stoolie ... er, a ... a shorty ... nae it's sporty
wi' the lads, aiiight!" hic

Drunkie, you're falling to "attention" before the Sober Up Now orders are
given.

Don't forget that Stupey also thinks Arnii Krooborg is a "scientist". ;-)

No I don't, but I think that Hiddius is stuck at age seven..........

Just to clarify, you're not Stupey. You're Pukey, or Drunkie, or Stinkie. OK?

Just to clarify, who cares?

You do, obviously, else you wouldn't have tried to correct what you
thought was a misstatement of *your* belief. I'm sure you're well within
your privileges as Laird o' the Manger to top off yer glass, bein' it's
gone six bells, ahoy, mateys, swing the truncheon deep and twirl those
curtain rods smart! hic

Pukey Stinkerton, Peer of the Realm! All hail! Come back, Pukey, we're all
at attention for yer wizzdumb. The loo can wait, y'know. Dish it up while
ye've got a chance!






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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:34:40 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:

Drunkie, you're falling to "attention" before the Sober Up Now orders are
given.

Don't forget that Stupey also thinks Arnii Krooborg is a "scientist".
;-)

No I don't, but I think that Hiddius is stuck at age seven..........

Just to clarify, you're not Stupey. You're Pukey, or Drunkie, or Stinkie.
OK?

Just to clarify, who cares? You're irrelevant, which is not a big grey
thing with a long trunk - that's a Cadillac.


What's that big pink thing with a long trunk that's dancing before your
eyes?



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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:11:02 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:34:40 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:

Drunkie, you're falling to "attention" before the Sober Up Now orders are
given.

Don't forget that Stupey also thinks Arnii Krooborg is a "scientist".
;-)

No I don't, but I think that Hiddius is stuck at age seven..........

Just to clarify, you're not Stupey. You're Pukey, or Drunkie, or Stinkie.
OK?

Just to clarify, who cares? You're irrelevant, which is not a big grey
thing with a long trunk - that's a Cadillac.


What's that big pink thing with a long trunk that's dancing before your
eyes?

That would be a low-rider Cadillac owned by a pimp, surely?

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:11:02 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:34:40 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:

Drunkie, you're falling to "attention" before the Sober Up Now orders
are
given.

Don't forget that Stupey also thinks Arnii Krooborg is a "scientist".
;-)

No I don't, but I think that Hiddius is stuck at age seven..........

Just to clarify, you're not Stupey. You're Pukey, or Drunkie, or
Stinkie.
OK?

Just to clarify, who cares? You're irrelevant, which is not a big grey
thing with a long trunk - that's a Cadillac.


What's that big pink thing with a long trunk that's dancing before your
eyes?

That would be a low-rider Cadillac owned by a pimp, surely?


with lifters



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