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Hi all,

Does anyone know where you can buy fader knobs that are conductive
plastic? We have a console that has touch sensitive faders but there
are some fader caps missing. Normal plastic fader knobs obviously won't
work, and we don't want to replace them all with chrome ones.

I have contacted Penny & Giles but they only sell shiny/brushed chrome
fader caps for touch sensitive faders. Apparently the BBC are also in
need of a quanitity of these but can't find any...

All help is greatly appreciated,

Tim.

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Tim wrote:

Does anyone know where you can buy fader knobs that are conductive
plastic? We have a console that has touch sensitive faders but there
are some fader caps missing. Normal plastic fader knobs obviously won't
work, and we don't want to replace them all with chrome ones.


Try this... spraypaint a normal plastic fader knob with "Bar-B-Q Black"
high temperature paint from the hardware store. That stuff is highly
charged with graphite and may well be conductive enough.

I have contacted Penny & Giles but they only sell shiny/brushed chrome
fader caps for touch sensitive faders. Apparently the BBC are also in
need of a quanitity of these but can't find any...


The question is how conductive it really needs to be. Most of the
"conductive plastics" are actually just ordinary plastics with some
sort of conductive material dispersed in them.

I take it you have asked the console manufacturer and got no decent reply?
--scott
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Hi,

I suspect the same as you - I guess carbon or something else conductive
is poured in with the plastic that is used to mould the cap.

The console is a rare Sony DMX-S6000 series and we are having a bit of
trouble getting information out of Sony as it was developed in Japan.

Bar-B-Q Black paint - can you get that in the UK?!

Cheers Scott,

Tim.

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There are also conductive paints available. google 'conductive paint'

Do they BBQ in the UK?




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Hi,

I suspect the same as you - I guess carbon or something else conductive
is poured in with the plastic that is used to mould the cap.

The console is a rare Sony DMX-S6000 series and we are having a bit of
trouble getting information out of Sony as it was developed in Japan.

Bar-B-Q Black paint - can you get that in the UK?!

Cheers Scott,

Tim.



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Tim wrote:
I suspect the same as you - I guess carbon or something else conductive
is poured in with the plastic that is used to mould the cap.

The console is a rare Sony DMX-S6000 series and we are having a bit of
trouble getting information out of Sony as it was developed in Japan.


Did you hear about the new cure for AIDS? They're going to put a Sony
part number on it, and then nobody will be able to get it.

Bar-B-Q Black paint - can you get that in the UK?!


Ask the local ironmonger's and see.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


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nappy wrote:
There are also conductive paints available. google 'conductive paint'

Do they BBQ in the UK?


I think you could use the same paint on deep-fryers as well.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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"Tim" wrote in message
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Hi all,

Does anyone know where you can buy fader knobs that are
conductive plastic? We have a console that has touch
sensitive faders but there are some fader caps missing.
Normal plastic fader knobs obviously won't work, and we
don't want to replace them all with chrome ones.


Interesting. AFAIK the fader knobs on my 02R96 select the input before I
touch them.

At any rate conductive paint is pretty common stuff. For example there's
window defogger repair paint in auto parts stores, circuit board repair and
shielding paint at the electronics store, conductive paint for prepping
items for plating and use in a scanning electron microscope, etc.

http://www.electrolube.com/docs/tds/SCP.pdf

http://www.kemcointernational.com/newcoatings.htm

http://www.goldtouchinc.com/metalforming/

http://www.discounttrainsonline.com/...DET_189_1.html

http://www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant2...e=Overclocking


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Try this... spraypaint a normal plastic fader knob with "Bar-B-Q Black"
high temperature paint from the hardware store. That stuff is highly
charged with graphite and may well be conductive enough.


In fact, most -- but not all -- black spray paints use carbon as their
coloring agent. When I painted the cabinet of my Moog theremin (anyone want
to buy it?), I had to find a brand that did not use carbon.


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In fact, most -- but not all -- black spray paints use carbon as their
coloring agent. When I painted the cabinet of my Moog theremin (anyone
want
to buy it?), I had to find a brand that did not use carbon.


Google some Beach Boys tribute bands, I'll bet they'll want it :_)


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In fact, most -- but not all -- black spray paints use carbon as their
coloring agent. When I painted the cabinet of my Moog theremin
(anyone want to buy it?), I had to find a brand that did not use carbon.


Google some Beach Boys tribute bands, I'll bet they'll want it :_)


My understanding is that "Good Vibrations" did not use a theremin. To me, it
doesn't sound like a theremin -- just an oscillator running up and down.




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nappy wrote:
There are also conductive paints available. google 'conductive paint'

Do they BBQ in the UK?


Not much. I frequent a bbq newsgroup, and the UK guys can't get a lot
of what us 'mericans and canucks can get at the corner hardware.

-John O

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William Sommerwerck wrote:

When I painted the cabinet of my Moog theremin
(anyone want to buy it?), I had to find a brand that did not use carbon.


Google some Beach Boys tribute bands, I'll bet they'll want it :_)


My understanding is that "Good Vibrations" did not use a theremin. To me, it
doesn't sound like a theremin -- just an oscillator running up and down.


It's not a Theremin, but most people think it is and nobody did
anything very positively to correct them. Probably lots of Beach Boys
tribute bands bought and learned to make weird noises on a Theremin,
and still do. It's probably become an urban legend.

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"Mike Rivers" wrote ...

William Sommerwerck wrote:
My understanding is that "Good Vibrations" did not use a theremin. To
me, it
doesn't sound like a theremin -- just an oscillator running up and
down.


It's not a Theremin, but most people think it is and nobody did
anything very positively to correct them. Probably lots of Beach Boys
tribute bands bought and learned to make weird noises on a Theremin,
and still do. It's probably become an urban legend.


http://www.tompolk.com/Tannerin/Tannerin.html

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When I painted the cabinet of my Moog theremin
(anyone want to buy it?), I had to find a brand that did not use
carbon.


Google some Beach Boys tribute bands, I'll bet they'll want it :_)


My understanding is that "Good Vibrations" did not use a theremin. To me,
it
doesn't sound like a theremin -- just an oscillator running up and down.


It's not a Theremin, but most people think it is and nobody did
anything very positively to correct them. Probably lots of Beach Boys
tribute bands bought and learned to make weird noises on a Theremin,
and still do. It's probably become an urban legend.


They called it a "slide Theramin" at the time. :-)


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William Sommerwerck wrote:
In fact, most -- but not all -- black spray paints use carbon as their
coloring agent. When I painted the cabinet of my Moog theremin
(anyone want to buy it?), I had to find a brand that did not use carbon.


Google some Beach Boys tribute bands, I'll bet they'll want it :_)


My understanding is that "Good Vibrations" did not use a theremin. To me, it
doesn't sound like a theremin -- just an oscillator running up and down.


Right. It used the Tannerin, a ribbon sensor gadget that was intended to
sound like a theremin but be easier to play. It has pitch indications
on the thing in the shape of a piano keyboard.

At the time there was a big demand for the "theremin sound" but there weren't
very many people who could actually get a real tune or any predictable note
out of the theremin. So things like the tannerin and ondoline turned up
on a lot of sessions.
--scott
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Richard Crowley wrote:
"Mike Rivers" wrote ...


It's not a Theremin, but most people think it is and nobody did
anything very positively to correct them.


http://www.tompolk.com/Tannerin/Tannerin.html


Interesting web page. OK, so somebody did something positive to correct
the misconception, but there's a whole lot of people out there who will
never see it, and a whole lot of people who may not know what a
Theremin is, but know the name.

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