Mi esposa esta en sienta con miesos. Ella tiene ya mas de dos meses de
estado. Estamos muy contentos!

Si, I have been studying Spanish since October. :-)

"Sandman" said:

Mi esposa esta en sienta con miesos. Ella tiene ya mas de dos meses de
estado. Estamos muy contentos!

Ja, wij hebben ook een nieuwe ijskast.
Maar daar gaat dit draadje toch niet over, hm?

Si, I have been studying Spanish since October. :-)

OK, now translate my comment above

--
Mr Klipsch and Dr Bose are walking down opposite sides of the street,
approaching each other.
Klipsch cups his hands around his mouth, faces Bose and calls out :
"Hey, Bose, you still making those speakers"
Bose turns his head away, stuffs his scarf in his mouth and mutters :
"yep"
Unknown poster in rec.audio.tubes

"Sandman" wrote in message ...
Mi esposa esta en sienta con miesos. Ella tiene ya mas de dos meses de
estado. Estamos muy contentos!

Si, I have been studying Spanish since October. :-)

http://www.studyspanish.com/translator.htm

says you said

My wife this in feels with miesos. It has already but of two months of
state. We are very contentments!

Makes as much sense as most of your posts.

ScottW

On 6 Feb 2004 12:00:22 -0800, (ScottW) wrote:

My wife this in feels with miesos. It has already but of two months of
state. We are very contentments!

Makes as much sense as most of your posts.

I thought you'd succumbed to the Big Snap, note.

--
td

Captain Fire Farter; "The" wrote in message
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On 6 Feb 2004 12:00:22 -0800, (ScottW) wrote:

My wife this in feels with miesos. It has already but of two months of
state. We are very contentments!

Makes as much sense as most of your posts.

I thought you'd succumbed to the Big Snap, note.

"en sienta" was a typo: s/b "encinta" (meaning pregnant).

"miesos" is Peruvian for twins. Therefore, "encinta con miesos" means
pregnant with twins. Of course, the Terrierborg hasn't been to Peru - he's
never left his cesspool.

"of state" is only one meaning of "estados" - "in this condition" is the
appropriate meaning of "de estados" in context - thus, "mi esposa tiene ya
mas de dos meses de estado" means "my wife has already been in this
condition more than two months."

"Estamos muy contentos" means we're very happy.

Of course the Terrierborg knew what I was saying, although his Spanish
really sucks, but the poisonous pooch couldn't do any better than to attempt
to mangle my words and meaning. One vile, sick, twisted, delusional,
compulsively lying, hateful puppy it is.

Wonder if after all these failed months/years of marital counseling, his
disgusted wife finally served the Terrierborg with the divorce papers - he
appears to be in a particularly foul - and I do mean *foul* (as in stench)
mood today.

"Sandman" wrote in message
...

Captain Fire Farter; "The" wrote in message
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On 6 Feb 2004 12:00:22 -0800, (ScottW) wrote:

My wife this in feels with miesos. It has already but of two months of
state. We are very contentments!

Makes as much sense as most of your posts.

I thought you'd succumbed to the Big Snap, note.

"en sienta" was a typo: s/b "encinta" (meaning pregnant).

Finally got hold of some virile sperm. Who's the father?


"miesos" is Peruvian for twins. Therefore, "encinta con miesos" means
pregnant with twins. Of course, the Terrierborg hasn't been to Peru -
he's
never left his cesspool.

"of state" is only one meaning of "estados" - "in this condition" is the
appropriate meaning of "de estados" in context - thus, "mi esposa tiene ya
mas de dos meses de estado" means "my wife has already been in this
condition more than two months."

"Estamos muy contentos" means we're very happy.

Of course the Terrierborg knew what I was saying, although his Spanish
really sucks,

I just used the online translator and let you spin dealing with
your own ineptitude.

but the poisonous pooch couldn't do any better than to attempt
to mangle my words and meaning. One vile, sick, twisted, delusional,
compulsively lying, hateful puppy it is.

Spoken like a true taxcheat.


Wonder if after all these failed months/years of marital counseling, his
disgusted wife finally served the Terrierborg with the divorce papers - he
appears to be in a particularly foul - and I do mean *foul* (as in stench)
mood today.

Pity the kids with a 70 year old smoking parent leading them through their
teen years. Hope you've at least established a trust for them.

ScottW

"ScottW" wrote in message
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"Sandman" wrote in message
...

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On 6 Feb 2004 12:00:22 -0800, (ScottW) wrote:

My wife this in feels with miesos. It has already but of two months
of
state. We are very contentments!

Makes as much sense as most of your posts.

I thought you'd succumbed to the Big Snap, note.

"en sienta" was a typo: s/b "encinta" (meaning pregnant).

Finally got hold of some virile sperm. Who's the father?

Moi - and my "super sperm", ****wipe.

"miesos" is Peruvian for twins. Therefore, "encinta con miesos" means
pregnant with twins. Of course, the Terrierborg hasn't been to Peru -
he's
never left his cesspool.

"of state" is only one meaning of "estados" - "in this condition" is the
appropriate meaning of "de estados" in context - thus, "mi esposa tiene
ya
mas de dos meses de estado" means "my wife has already been in this
condition more than two months."

"Estamos muy contentos" means we're very happy.

Of course the Terrierborg knew what I was saying, although his Spanish
really sucks,

I just used the online translator and let you spin dealing with
your own ineptitude.

You obviously didn't even know how to use your "online translater". E.g.
you included the word "but" in your pathetic mistranslation. The word for
"but" in Spanish is "pero", which doesn't appear anywhere in my original
text. What a hypocritical cretin.

but the poisonous pooch couldn't do any better than to attempt
to mangle my words and meaning. One vile, sick, twisted, delusional,
compulsively lying, hateful puppy it is.

Spoken like a true taxcheat.

Liar, liar, liar. You've seen how I live. I earn more money in my law
practice every year than you and Wormtongue combined. Not even you could
imagine in your most demented dreams that I need to cheat the tax
authorities out of $25.00. And you know perfectly well that all I ever said
at that dinner was "Maybe if I asked you if you have a will yet I could
write off this dinner." It was said in obvious jest, and you know it, liar.
And it was said in a few seconds, with *no* followup whatsoever, between the
time we paid our bills and got our credit cards back from the waiter.
Contrary to your brazen lies, there was *no* "fifteen minute* diatribe from
me about it at any time during that dinner.

The only extended diatribe that occurred at that dinner came from you with
your insane drivel about Stereophile and blind tests.

The fact is, I don't even do wills. I do trusts and estate planning, among
other things.

You now pretend to have taken me seriously, despite the obvious jesting in
my tone of voice and facial expressions. If you're that dense as to take it
seriously, you've just proven you're another utterly humorless right-winger
who can't think his way out of a wet paper bag - you seriously expect anyone
including yourself to believe I need $25 from the government, and would risk
my license to practice law over such a pittance?

Wonder if after all these failed months/years of marital counseling, his
disgusted wife finally served the Terrierborg with the divorce papers -
he
appears to be in a particularly foul - and I do mean *foul* (as in
stench)
mood today.

Pity the kids with a 70 year old smoking parent leading them through their
teen years. Hope you've at least established a trust for them.

I'm 58, asswipe, and in far better health than you are, lardass. I could
throw you through a wall with one hand tied behind my back. You've seen the
gym I've been going to regularly since 2002 - unlike you, who hangs around
the house playing pool and pouring more beer into his beer belly. I'm 12
years your senior, although you behave more like a 12 year old. And pity
your son, who has such a distastrous father, spoiling him rotten, completely
unable to instill any self-discipline in him, and who even brags about how
reckless and rule-breaking the poor boy has become.

The law doesn't allow one to set up a trust fund for children until they're
born, idiot. When they are born I will be setting up educational funds for
their future college expenses. And there will be no trust fund. There will
be a "family trust" to avoid probate after our childrens' parents are gone.

And I'm down to 5 cigarettes a day, and about to quit entirely. And my
lungs are perfectly pink - my smoking hasn't affected them at all.

Even your new buddy Sack-O-**** knows what a liar you are about my
Martin-Logan speakers supposedly being flat up against the back wall of my
listening room. So does Marc Phillips. So do several other former RAO'ers
who have seen and listened to my system.

IOW, you're not fooling anyone with your vapid lies, poochy.

"Sandman" wrote in message
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"ScottW" wrote in message
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"Sandman" wrote in message
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On 6 Feb 2004 12:00:22 -0800, (ScottW) wrote:

My wife this in feels with miesos. It has already but of two months
of
state. We are very contentments!

Makes as much sense as most of your posts.

I thought you'd succumbed to the Big Snap, note.

"en sienta" was a typo: s/b "encinta" (meaning pregnant).

Finally got hold of some virile sperm. Who's the father?

Moi - and my "super sperm", ****wipe.

"miesos" is Peruvian for twins. Therefore, "encinta con miesos" means
pregnant with twins. Of course, the Terrierborg hasn't been to Peru -
he's
never left his cesspool.

"of state" is only one meaning of "estados" - "in this condition" is
the
appropriate meaning of "de estados" in context - thus, "mi esposa
tiene
ya
mas de dos meses de estado" means "my wife has already been in this
condition more than two months."

"Estamos muy contentos" means we're very happy.

Of course the Terrierborg knew what I was saying, although his Spanish
really sucks,

I just used the online translator and let you spin dealing with
your own ineptitude.

You obviously didn't even know how to use your "online translater". E.g.
you included the word "but" in your pathetic mistranslation. The word for
"but" in Spanish is "pero", which doesn't appear anywhere in my original
text. What a hypocritical cretin.

but the poisonous pooch couldn't do any better than to attempt
to mangle my words and meaning. One vile, sick, twisted, delusional,
compulsively lying, hateful puppy it is.

Spoken like a true taxcheat.

Liar, liar, liar. You've seen how I live. I earn more money in my law
practice every year than you and Wormtongue combined. Not even you could
imagine in your most demented dreams that I need to cheat the tax
authorities out of $25.00. And you know perfectly well that all I ever
said
at that dinner was "Maybe if I asked you if you have a will yet I could
write off this dinner." It was said in obvious jest, and you know it,
liar.
And it was said in a few seconds, with *no* followup whatsoever, between
the
time we paid our bills and got our credit cards back from the waiter.
Contrary to your brazen lies, there was *no* "fifteen minute* diatribe
from
me about it at any time during that dinner.

The only extended diatribe that occurred at that dinner came from you with
your insane drivel about Stereophile and blind tests.

The fact is, I don't even do wills. I do trusts and estate planning,
among
other things.

You now pretend to have taken me seriously, despite the obvious jesting in
my tone of voice and facial expressions. If you're that dense as to take
it
seriously, you've just proven you're another utterly humorless
right-winger
who can't think his way out of a wet paper bag - you seriously expect
anyone
including yourself to believe I need $25 from the government, and would
risk
my license to practice law over such a pittance?

Wonder if after all these failed months/years of marital counseling,
his
disgusted wife finally served the Terrierborg with the divorce
papers -
he
appears to be in a particularly foul - and I do mean *foul* (as in
stench)
mood today.

Pity the kids with a 70 year old smoking parent leading them through
their
teen years. Hope you've at least established a trust for them.

I'm 58, asswipe, and in far better health than you are, lardass. I could
throw you through a wall with one hand tied behind my back. You've seen
the
gym I've been going to regularly since 2002 - unlike you, who hangs around
the house playing pool and pouring more beer into his beer belly. I'm 12
years your senior, although you behave more like a 12 year old. And pity
your son, who has such a distastrous father, spoiling him rotten,
completely
unable to instill any self-discipline in him, and who even brags about how
reckless and rule-breaking the poor boy has become.

The law doesn't allow one to set up a trust fund for children until
they're
born, idiot. When they are born I will be setting up educational funds
for
their future college expenses. And there will be no trust fund. There
will
be a "family trust" to avoid probate after our childrens' parents are
gone.

And I'm down to 5 cigarettes a day, and about to quit entirely. And my
lungs are perfectly pink - my smoking hasn't affected them at all.

Even your new buddy Sack-O-**** knows what a liar you are about my
Martin-Logan speakers supposedly being flat up against the back wall of my
listening room. So does Marc Phillips. So do several other former
RAO'ers
who have seen and listened to my system.

IOW, you're not fooling anyone with your vapid lies, poochy.



Facts about Sanders:

This is my experience with Sanders and dinners. He never
tried any tax dodges when I was with him:
I have dined with sanders three times, twice at restaurants and
once in his home. At the restaurants, we paid our own bills.
Sanders never mentioned his work at any time.

I don't know anything about his sources of income, whether
from a trust fund or from a legal practice. He lives very well,
better than I do.




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"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote

Facts about Sanders:

This is my experience with Sanders and dinners. He never
tried any tax dodges when I was with him:
I have dined with sanders three times, twice at restaurants and
once in his home. At the restaurants, we paid our own bills.
Sanders never mentioned his work at any time.

I don't know anything about his sources of income, whether
from a trust fund or from a legal practice. He lives very well,
better than I do.

Thank you, Art. You innocently overlooked the fact that you had two dinners
at my house - one alone with me (well, it could be called an afternoon bbq -
steak and lobster), and a second with Scott and Marc.

And I will concede that I don't recall whether I ever picked up a restaurant
tab with you - although I do recall offering to on two occasions.

I do not have a trust fund. This December I received an inheritance, which
was worth less than my own estate. All of each is completely invested. I
live on my income from my practice, which is far more than I need to live
on, so I invest most of that as well. To avoid wasting any more money on
interest payments, I paid off my mortgage in full last June, so my living
expenses only eat up about 20% of my income. My house was recently
appraised at $1.2 million.

I certainly don't need to steal $25 from the government. That claim is so
nonsensical and preposterous that only a complete loony could imagine it to
be true.

And I'm sure you recall and can confirm that my Martin Logans are *not*
placed "flat up against the back wall" as Scott has falsely claimed.

"Sandman" wrote in message
...

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote

Facts about Sanders:

This is my experience with Sanders and dinners. He never
tried any tax dodges when I was with him:
I have dined with sanders three times, twice at restaurants and
once in his home. At the restaurants, we paid our own bills.
Sanders never mentioned his work at any time.

I don't know anything about his sources of income, whether
from a trust fund or from a legal practice. He lives very well,
better than I do.

Thank you, Art. You innocently overlooked the fact that you had two
dinners
at my house - one alone with me (well, it could be called an afternoon
bbq -
steak and lobster), and a second with Scott and Marc.

And I will concede that I don't recall whether I ever picked up a
restaurant
tab with you - although I do recall offering to on two occasions.

I do not have a trust fund. This December I received an inheritance,
which
was worth less than my own estate. All of each is completely invested. I
live on my income from my practice, which is far more than I need to live
on, so I invest most of that as well. To avoid wasting any more money on
interest payments, I paid off my mortgage in full last June, so my living
expenses only eat up about 20% of my income. My house was recently
appraised at $1.2 million.

I certainly don't need to steal $25 from the government. That claim is so
nonsensical and preposterous that only a complete loony could imagine it
to
be true.

And I'm sure you recall and can confirm that my Martin Logans are *not*
placed "flat up against the back wall" as Scott has falsely claimed.



I think they were about one foot from the wall.




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"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
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"Sandman" wrote in message

And I'm sure you recall and can confirm that my Martin Logans are *not*
placed "flat up against the back wall" as Scott has falsely claimed.

I think they were about one foot from the wall.

Pretty close - the back of the lower base modules are 18.5" from the back
wall. It's hard to tell without actually standing near the rear of the
speakers or measuring them, which I just did. The outer front electrostatic
panels are 31" from the wall, with the inner front panels toed-in to 30"
from the wall, per the specifications in Martin Logan's Quest Z manual which
came with the speakers.

Sound about right to you?

Pretty close - the back of the lower base modules are 18.5" from the back
wall. It's hard to tell without actually standing near the rear of the
speakers or measuring them, which I just did. The outer front electrostatic
panels are 31" from the wall, with the inner front panels toed-in to 30"
from the wall, per the specifications in Martin Logan's Quest Z manual which
came with the speakers.

Sound about right to you?




Have you tried moving them out further from the back wall? Do you have any
absorbtion or diffusion on the wall behind them?

"S888Wheel" wrote in message
...

Pretty close - the back of the lower base modules are 18.5" from the back
wall. It's hard to tell without actually standing near the rear of the
speakers or measuring them, which I just did. The outer front
electrostatic
panels are 31" from the wall, with the inner front panels toed-in to 30"
from the wall, per the specifications in Martin Logan's Quest Z manual
which
came with the speakers.

Sound about right to you?




Have you tried moving them out further from the back wall?

Yes, but (1) I noticed no improvement in sound, and (2) they intrude too
much into the listening room, which is also a "family room".

Do you have any absorbtion or diffusion on the wall behind them?

No. Just wires. :-)

I don't have a "dedicated listening room", or I might experiment with such
things.

BTW, I understand you also have Martin Logans and ARC tube amps. Good
taste, matey. :-)

Have you tried moving them out further from the back wall?

Yes, but (1) I noticed no improvement in sound, and (2) they intrude too
much into the listening room, which is also a "family room".


That surprises me. Small position changes make noticable differnces with my
CLSs.



Do you have any absorbtion or diffusion on the wall behind them?

No. Just wires. :-)

I don't have a "dedicated listening room", or I might experiment with such
things.

A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room??? Have you
thought about an addition to the house?


BTW, I understand you also have Martin Logans and ARC tube amps. Good
taste, matey. :-)

Thank you. It is a nice combo. Ever tried the AtmaSphere amps? I here they mate
well with the Soundlab full range electrostats. I am leaning towards Soundlab
as a future upgrade.

A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room??? Have you
thought about an addition to the house?

I have a $20,000 house and I have a dedicated room for stereo.
What have you done with the remaining $1,000,000 ?

"Lionel" wrote in message

A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room???
Have you thought about an addition to the house?

I have a $20,000 house and I have a dedicated room for stereo.
What have you done with the remaining $1,000,000 ?

Perhaps you meant a $200,000 house?

"S888Wheel" wrote in message
...


Have you tried moving them out further from the back wall?

Yes, but (1) I noticed no improvement in sound, and (2) they intrude too
much into the listening room, which is also a "family room".


That surprises me. Small position changes make noticable differnces with
my
CLSs.

From what I understand, the CLS models are far more sensitive to position
changes than the Quest Z's. Back when I was living in Playa Del Rey a few
years ago, two RAO friends (Marc Philips was one of them) confirmed that the
distance from the speakers as identically spaced made a difference -
standing about two feet back in the hallway there really improved the sound.

In my new San Diego house, I have that extra two feet of listening space,
and find that the ideal position for listening to them is right where I have
them.

Do you have any absorbtion or diffusion on the wall behind them?

No. Just wires. :-)

I don't have a "dedicated listening room", or I might experiment with
such
things.

A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room??? Have
you
thought about an addition to the house?

Real estate along prime coastal areas like Del Mar in San Diego is far more
expensive than in at least 95% of the country. For what I paid and what my
house is now worth, I could afford a huge mansion on 10 acres in many parts
of the country, but I prefer being where I am for many reasons, not the
least of which is the top-notch school system from K-12. It's a very nice
two-story 5 bedroom, 4 1/2 bath house with just the right amount of room for
our plans for children and family guests. But I converted a downstairs
bedroom into one law office, and one-third of the three-car garage into a
second law office.

Yes, I've thought about an additional house - e.g., in Lake Tahoe.
Realistically, that's too far away.

But on a more serious note, I have a back yard which in the back third of it
has a slope gradually leading upwards to the houses above (I live on a
slight hill). I'm seriously looking into the legal, geological, and
architectural possibilities of carving out of that hill enough space to
construct a very large studio - which would not just be a "dedicated
listening room" replete with Martin Logan's top-of the line "Statement"
speaker system, and ARC's or VTL's top of the line amps and preamps, etc.,
etc., but also a drop-down-from-the-ceiling screen with a top of the line
projector and line quadrupler, with M/L surround speakers for video, plus a
stage with a concert grand Steinway and a French harpsichord like the
two-keyboard one my neighbors across the street have + a sophisticated
recording/miking system so I can play and record keyboard with a variety of
other musicians making a variety of types of music (and possibly producing
some marketable CDs/DVD-As/SACDs/master tapes. I've already discussed this
with JJ during his visits here (Jim Johnston, who used to post here) and the
possibility of hiring him as a technical consultant, and he's definitely
enthused. When the time comes, I may even hire JA and others the two of
them may recommend.

BTW, I understand you also have Martin Logans and ARC tube amps. Good
taste, matey. :-)

Thank you. It is a nice combo. Ever tried the AtmaSphere amps? I here they
mate
well with the Soundlab full range electrostats. I am leaning towards
Soundlab
as a future upgrade.

I never listened to the Soundlabs outside of a CES and Stereophile show,
which isn't the best venue for them, but I do recall at one time they were
J. Gordon Holt's speakers of choice in his home.

For the time being, I'm not on the market for experimenting with other
components. I'm happy for the time being with what I have, despite a few
compromises. My ultimate dream-system, as described above, will eventually
materialize, but my energies for the time being are focused on (1) my wife
and her health and well-being during her pregnancy, (2) learning all I can
about being the best father I can be once they're born, (3) saving and
investing for her and their future well-being, and (4) my work and the
welfare of my clients, which also include the elderly.

Thus I'm a bit too busy with all that right now even to get into the
turntable system of my dreams and all the vinyl I'd love to purchase, which
would fit in the current "family room". I did get a chance last spring to
see and hear Marc Phillips' analogue system, and really like it. He has an
excellent TT and arm, great vinyl collection, and a superb cartridge, far
better than the more expensive version by the same manufacturer. Again, he
agreed with me that sitting a few feet back from his set-up listening
position improved the sound and eliminated some slight boominess in the
bass. Room size and speaker placement can make a lot of difference in a lot
of systems.

Those Soundlabs are pretty huge, BTW. What size of a room do you plan on
putting them in?

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room??? Have
you
thought about an addition to the house?

I have a $20,000 house and I have a dedicated room for stereo.
What have you done with the remaining $1,000,000 ?

See my response to Marc (Wheel) above.

"Sandman" wrote in message

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room???
Have you thought about an addition to the house?

I have a $20,000 house and I have a dedicated room for stereo.
What have you done with the remaining $1,000,000 ?

See my response to Marc (Wheel) above.

Now that's got to be some kind of a slip.

"Sandman" wrote in message


Real estate along prime coastal areas like Del Mar in San Diego is
far more expensive than in at least 95% of the country. For what I
paid and what my house is now worth, I could afford a huge mansion on
10 acres in many parts of the country, but I prefer being where I am
for many reasons, not the least of which is the top-notch school
system from K-12. It's a very nice two-story 5 bedroom, 4 1/2 bath
house with just the right amount of room for our plans for children
and family guests. But I converted a downstairs bedroom into one law
office, and one-third of the three-car garage into a second law
office.


The trip from Playa Del Rey to Del Mar seems like a heck of a commute.

"Sandman" wrote in message
...

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room???
Have
you
thought about an addition to the house?

I have a $20,000 house and I have a dedicated room for stereo.
What have you done with the remaining $1,000,000 ?

See my response to Marc (Wheel) above.

Correction: see my response to Scott Wheeler above.

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Real estate along prime coastal areas like Del Mar in San Diego is
far more expensive than in at least 95% of the country. For what I
paid and what my house is now worth, I could afford a huge mansion on
10 acres in many parts of the country, but I prefer being where I am
for many reasons, not the least of which is the top-notch school
system from K-12. It's a very nice two-story 5 bedroom, 4 1/2 bath
house with just the right amount of room for our plans for children
and family guests. But I converted a downstairs bedroom into one law
office, and one-third of the three-car garage into a second law
office.


The trip from Playa Del Rey to Del Mar seems like a heck of a commute.

Well, it was, for a while while I still maintained an office in Santa Monica
(actually, about two hours each way). But I had planned the move for years
and developed quite a substantial clientel here before the move. The move
itself was a "heck of a move". It took us three months. Once you're my age,
you've accumulated a lot of "stuff" to move. Hence, my (and my wife's)
decision that this is it - no more moves - this is our dream house, and this
is where we'll live out the rest of our lives. One of the nicest things
about it right now is that *no one* has any ownership interest in it but us.
No mortgage, no debts.

A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room??? Have you
thought about an addition to the house?

I have a $20,000 house and I have a dedicated room for stereo.
What have you done with the remaining $1,000,000 ?

Do you really have a 20,000 dollar house? Did you mean 200,000? If not your
math is way off.

See my response to Marc (Wheel) above.


That would be Scott not Marc.

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Have you tried moving them out further from the back wall?

Yes, but (1) I noticed no improvement in sound, and (2) they intrude too
much into the listening room, which is also a "family room".


That surprises me. Small position changes make noticable differnces with
my
CLSs.



Do you have any absorbtion or diffusion on the wall behind them?

No. Just wires. :-)

I don't have a "dedicated listening room", or I might experiment with
such
things.

A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room??? Have
you
thought about an addition to the house?


BTW, I understand you also have Martin Logans and ARC tube amps. Good
taste, matey. :-)

Thank you. It is a nice combo. Ever tried the AtmaSphere amps? I here they
mate
well with the Soundlab full range electrostats. I am leaning towards
Soundlab
as a future upgrade.

I heard the combo (bi amped) once at Stereos Unlimited in San Diego.
Best system I ever heard! But it was years ago.
The second best was the Atmasphere's with Vandersteeen 2Ce's.




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A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room??? Have
you
thought about an addition to the house?

I have a $20,000 house and I have a dedicated room for stereo.
What have you done with the remaining $1,000,000 ?


I have been to his house, thought it is a very nice house, an executive
home, it is not a mansion. I would imagine that a good portion of
the value lies in the land. I would think that his lot value would exceed
$800,000. One could probably purchase a similar home
in Cedar Rapids, Iowa for under $500,000.




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From what I understand, the CLS models are far more sensitive to position
changes than the Quest Z's. Back when I was living in Playa Del Rey a few
years ago, two RAO friends (Marc Philips was one of them) confirmed that the
distance from the speakers as identically spaced made a difference -
standing about two feet back in the hallway there really improved the sound.

In my new San Diego house, I have that extra two feet of listening space,
and find that the ideal position for listening to them is right where I have
them.

If you feel that you have found the ideal spot then you are done with
positioning them.


Do you have any absorbtion or diffusion on the wall behind them?

No. Just wires. :-)

I don't have a "dedicated listening room", or I might experiment with
such
things.

A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room??? Have
you
thought about an addition to the house?

Real estate along prime coastal areas like Del Mar in San Diego is far more
expensive than in at least 95% of the country. For what I paid and what my
house is now worth, I could afford a huge mansion on 10 acres in many parts
of the country, but I prefer being where I am for many reasons, not the
least of which is the top-notch school system from K-12. It's a very nice
two-story 5 bedroom, 4 1/2 bath house with just the right amount of room for
our plans for children and family guests. But I converted a downstairs
bedroom into one law office, and one-third of the three-car garage into a
second law office.

I understand your situation better now. Thanks for the explination.


Yes, I've thought about an additional house - e.g., in Lake Tahoe.
Realistically, that's too far away.


Ironically we are considering a second house that would be even further away,
but that is a long story that is stillunfolding and not audio related.


But on a more serious note, I have a back yard which in the back third of it
has a slope gradually leading upwards to the houses above (I live on a
slight hill). I'm seriously looking into the legal, geological, and
architectural possibilities of carving out of that hill enough space to
construct a very large studio - which would not just be a "dedicated
listening room" replete with Martin Logan's top-of the line "Statement"
speaker system, and ARC's or VTL's top of the line amps and preamps, etc.,
etc., but also a drop-down-from-the-ceiling screen with a top of the line
projector and line quadrupler, with M/L surround speakers for video, plus a
stage with a concert grand Steinway and a French harpsichord like the
two-keyboard one my neighbors across the street have + a sophisticated
recording/miking system so I can play and record keyboard with a variety of
other musicians making a variety of types of music (and possibly producing
some marketable CDs/DVD-As/SACDs/master tapes. I've already discussed this
with JJ during his visits here (Jim Johnston, who used to post here) and the
possibility of hiring him as a technical consultant, and he's definitely
enthused. When the time comes, I may even hire JA and others the two of
them may recommend.

The Statements are amoung the best speakers I have ever heard. I cannot argue
with that choice. And they look good too.


BTW, I understand you also have Martin Logans and ARC tube amps. Good
taste, matey. :-)

Thank you. It is a nice combo. Ever tried the AtmaSphere amps? I here they
mate
well with the Soundlab full range electrostats. I am leaning towards
Soundlab
as a future upgrade.

I never listened to the Soundlabs outside of a CES and Stereophile show,
which isn't the best venue for them, but I do recall at one time they were
J. Gordon Holt's speakers of choice in his home.

They are pretty amazing IMO.


For the time being, I'm not on the market for experimenting with other
components. I'm happy for the time being with what I have, despite a few
compromises. My ultimate dream-system, as described above, will eventually
materialize, but my energies for the time being are focused on (1) my wife
and her health and well-being during her pregnancy, (2) learning all I can
about being the best father I can be once they're born, (3) saving and
investing for her and their future well-being, and (4) my work and the
welfare of my clients, which also include the elderly.

Fair enough. It looks like a huge project.



Thus I'm a bit too busy with all that right now even to get into the
turntable system of my dreams and all the vinyl I'd love to purchase, which
would fit in the current "family room". I did get a chance last spring to
see and hear Marc Phillips' analogue system, and really like it. He has an
excellent TT and arm, great vinyl collection, and a superb cartridge, far
better than the more expensive version by the same manufacturer. Again, he
agreed with me that sitting a few feet back from his set-up listening
position improved the sound and eliminated some slight boominess in the
bass. Room size and speaker placement can make a lot of difference in a lot
of systems.

I have heard his tuntable as well and I like it too. I think however the
Rosewood Pro is the best of the Koetsu line.



Those Soundlabs are pretty huge, BTW. What size of a room do you plan on
putting them in?

I was thinking about the A3s not the U1s.

Sockpuppet Yustabe said:

One could probably purchase a similar home
in Cedar Rapids, Iowa for under $500,000.

Or in Columbia, Maryland, for $650K, including the bomb shelter.

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Captain Fire Farter; "The" wrote in message
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On 6 Feb 2004 12:00:22 -0800, (ScottW) wrote:

My wife this in feels with miesos. It has already but of two
months
of
state. We are very contentments!

Makes as much sense as most of your posts.

I thought you'd succumbed to the Big Snap, note.

"en sienta" was a typo: s/b "encinta" (meaning pregnant).

Finally got hold of some virile sperm. Who's the father?

Moi - and my "super sperm", ****wipe.

"miesos" is Peruvian for twins. Therefore, "encinta con miesos"
means
pregnant with twins. Of course, the Terrierborg hasn't been to
Peru -
he's
never left his cesspool.

"of state" is only one meaning of "estados" - "in this condition" is
the
appropriate meaning of "de estados" in context - thus, "mi esposa
tiene
ya
mas de dos meses de estado" means "my wife has already been in this
condition more than two months."

"Estamos muy contentos" means we're very happy.

Of course the Terrierborg knew what I was saying, although his
Spanish
really sucks,

I just used the online translator and let you spin dealing with
your own ineptitude.

You obviously didn't even know how to use your "online translater". E.g.
you included the word "but" in your pathetic mistranslation. The word
for
"but" in Spanish is "pero", which doesn't appear anywhere in my original
text. What a hypocritical cretin.

but the poisonous pooch couldn't do any better than to attempt
to mangle my words and meaning. One vile, sick, twisted, delusional,
compulsively lying, hateful puppy it is.

Spoken like a true taxcheat.

Liar, liar, liar. You've seen how I live.

Yeah, last tour I got you showed me the upgraded
bathroom fixtures. Toilet paper dispensors are so
interesting.

I earn more money in my law
practice every year than you and Wormtongue combined.

Yeah, thats why it blew me away that you would ask me to listen
to tax talk so you could write off your bill.
A bill which didn't include our dinner. Separate checks, remember?

Still, I think your law practice is virually non-existant.
Trots had you nailed, trust baby.

Not even you could
imagine in your most demented dreams that I need to cheat the tax
authorities out of $25.00. And you know perfectly well that all I ever
said
at that dinner was "Maybe if I asked you if you have a will yet I could
write off this dinner." It was said in obvious jest, and you know it,
liar.

BS, that wasn't nearly the extent. Although it was so boring I admit
I zoned out. All I saw was your lips moving hypnotically.

And it was said in a few seconds, with *no* followup whatsoever, between
the
time we paid our bills and got our credit cards back from the waiter.

So much for the story of picking up the tabs.
Aside from dining at your house (which is easily offset by occasions at
mine
and the wine and desert I provided at yours)
you never picked up any tab, ever.
Matter of fact, I don't recall you bringing anything to my place
you cheap twightwad.


Pity the kids with a 70 year old smoking parent leading them through
their
teen years. Hope you've at least established a trust for them.

I'm 58, asswipe, and in far better health than you are, lardass. I could
throw you through a wall with one hand tied behind my back.

You're a 5'4" smurf of about 165 lbs soaking wet who feels so physically
challenged that he has to make silly threats.

Still, the fact remains that you will be 70 years old when your kids
are 12. Good luck. You're gonna need it.


And I'm down to 5 cigarettes a day, and about to quit entirely.

My mom quit at about your age. She's on the steroid inhalers and
oxygen at 72. Your kids are gonna know what ibuterol is
before anyone else's kids in the DelMar dumps.

And my
lungs are perfectly pink - my smoking hasn't affected them at all.

Even your new buddy Sack-O-**** knows what a liar you are about my
Martin-Logan speakers supposedly being flat up against the back wall of
my
listening room. So does Marc Phillips. So do several other former
RAO'ers
who have seen and listened to my system.

Your room is far from ideal. Hard wall immediately left, open on the
right,
glass windows 6" behind the listening position.

Have you checked the homeowners assoc. cc&rs to see if your studio
will be an option? I'll bet they tell you to take a flying leap on that
idea. Particularly attempting to cut into that hill upon which sits
another house.


IOW, you're not fooling anyone with your vapid lies, poochy.

You spend more words trying to avoid the truth.

Truth is your crazy leftist political fanaticism couldn't
accept a few simple corrections/clarifications to your
fact devoid diatribes so you went off into the world of
personal insults. You spewed so much hatefilled crap
without reason that you have blinded yourself to reality.
I won't even mention the twofaced backstabbing you
tend towards with everyone here you call you're friend.
You have no concept of the meaning of trust or confidence.

ScottW

The Terrierborg has a new leg to chew on.

Still, I think your law practice is virually non-existant.
Trots had you nailed, trust baby.

That was me, not Gregipus.

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The Terrierborg has a new leg to chew on.

Still, I think your law practice is virually non-existant.
Trots had you nailed, trust baby.

That was me, not Gregipus.

Trots may have stolen it from you.

ScottW

Arny Krueger a écrit :
"Lionel" wrote in message


A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room???
Have you thought about an addition to the house?

I have a $20,000 house and I have a dedicated room for stereo.
What have you done with the remaining $1,000,000 ?


Perhaps you meant a $200,000 house?

$200,000 ?
Perhaps it's its actual value but $20,000 was its purchase price.
Ask our British and Dutch contributors about the price of houses in
French Massif central. ;-)

Fatyap said:

I'm 58, asswipe, and in far better health than you are, lardass. I could
throw you through a wall with one hand tied behind my back.

You're a 5'4" smurf of about 165 lbs soaking wet

What are your weight and height, Scott?

If you want, I can pull up the quotes from Google showing you
sneering about other people's weight.

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Your room is far from ideal. Hard wall immediately left, open on the
right,
glass windows 6" behind the listening position.

Have you checked the homeowners assoc. cc&rs to see if your studio
will be an option? I'll bet they tell you to take a flying leap on that
idea. Particularly attempting to cut into that hill upon which sits
another house.



I don't think that is going to go over to well.
It would require an expensive retaining wall.
That slope supports the house behind his.
I doubt if he could get a permit for
a rear outbuilding, if it involved
removing or altering the slope.




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Fatyap said:

I'm 58, asswipe, and in far better health than you are, lardass. I
could
throw you through a wall with one hand tied behind my back.

You're a 5'4" smurf of about 165 lbs soaking wet

What are your weight and height, Scott?

Why? Do you want to fight too?

If you want, I can pull up the quotes from Google showing you
sneering about other people's weight.

Are you claiming innocence in the sneer dept?
Thats a laugh.

ScottW

"ScottW" wrote:

I earn more money in my law
practice every year than you and Wormtongue combined.

Yeah, thats why it blew me away that you would ask me to listen
to tax talk so you could write off your bill.
A bill which didn't include our dinner.

And you expect us to believe you didn't realize my statement was a joke?

Separate checks, remember?

I've always aknowledged that, remember?

Still, I think your law practice is virually non-existant.
Trots had you nailed, trust baby.

Trots was just as sicko and jealous as you.

Not even you could
imagine in your most demented dreams that I need to cheat the tax
authorities out of $25.00. And you know perfectly well that all I ever
said
at that dinner was "Maybe if I asked you if you have a will yet I could
write off this dinner." It was said in obvious jest, and you know it,
liar.

BS, that wasn't nearly the extent. Although it was so boring I admit
I zoned out. All I saw was your lips moving hypnotically.

You're still lying, cretin. Guess what? NO ONE believes you!

And it was said in a few seconds, with *no* followup whatsoever, between
the
time we paid our bills and got our credit cards back from the waiter.

So much for the story of picking up the tabs.

I NEVER said I "picked up the tab" for that dinner, liar.
I *did* say I "picked up the tab" for the dinner at our house, which you
nit-pick about with respect to wording, but that's your problem, not mine.

Aside from dining at your house (which is easily offset by occasions at
mine
and the wine and desert I provided at yours)

Desert and one bottle of champagne. I provided the other bottles of
champagne, as well as the steak and lobster. Or were you too drunk to
remember? That's right, your wife *did* have to drive you home.

Matter of fact, I don't recall you bringing anything to my place
you cheap twightwad.

Then *you're* the one who gets so drunk he doesn't know where he is any
more. On the first visit, for the Chargers-Raiders game, I brought over a
six-pack of Grolsch beer. On another occasion I brought over two bottles of
French champagne.

You're a 5'4" smurf of about 165 lbs soaking wet who feels so physically
challenged that he has to make silly threats.

I'm 5'9", liar, and 170 now - solid muscle. And you're so terminally stupid
you don't know the difference between a "threat" and a statement of fact.

Still, the fact remains that you will be 70 years old when your kids
are 12. Good luck. You're gonna need it.

I'll outlive you by at least a decade - you're in the worst shape I've ever
seen anyone at your age.

My mom quit at about your age. She's on the steroid inhalers and
oxygen at 72.

Sorry to hear it. But it has nothing to do with me.

Your kids are gonna know what ibuterol is
before anyone else's kids in the DelMar dumps.

A simple "congratulations" would have done - but that's asking a bit much of
a slug like you, isn't it?

Your room is far from ideal. Hard wall immediately left, open on the
right,
glass windows 6" behind the listening position.

Guess you were so drunk everytime you visited you can't even get your
directions straight in my family room.

IOW, you're not fooling anyone with your vapid lies, poochy.

You spend more words trying to avoid the truth.

Ah, yes, the Krooglish "TRVTH" from the mouths of Terrierborg Wittemongrel.

The Obscenely Stupid Terrierdork elbows aside Socky in February's
Obtuseness Stakes.

You're a 5'4" smurf of about 165 lbs soaking wet

What are your weight and height, Scott?

Why? Do you want to fight too?

****ty behavior noted.

If you want, I can pull up the quotes from Google showing you
sneering about other people's weight.

Are you claiming innocence in the sneer dept?

Petulance and infantilism noted.

Thats a laugh.

You are *such* an asshole. Did you get a raise last quarter?

"George M. Middius" wrote in message
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The Obscenely Stupid Terrierdork elbows aside Socky in February's
Obtuseness Stakes.

You're a 5'4" smurf of about 165 lbs soaking wet

What are your weight and height, Scott?

Why? Do you want to fight too?

****ty behavior noted.

If you want, I can pull up the quotes from Google showing you
sneering about other people's weight.

Are you claiming innocence in the sneer dept?

Petulance and infantilism noted.

Thats a laugh.

You are *such* an asshole. Did you get a raise last quarter?

The Terrierborg is a few inches taller than me and 215 pounds of blubber (he
weighed himself at my healthclub and bragged about how he was "only" 215
pounds).

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From what I understand, the CLS models are far more sensitive to position
changes than the Quest Z's. Back when I was living in Playa Del Rey a
few
years ago, two RAO friends (Marc Philips was one of them) confirmed that
the
distance from the speakers as identically spaced made a difference -
standing about two feet back in the hallway there really improved the
sound.

In my new San Diego house, I have that extra two feet of listening space,
and find that the ideal position for listening to them is right where I
have
them.

If you feel that you have found the ideal spot then you are done with
positioning them.

I'm happy enough with it.

Do you have any absorbtion or diffusion on the wall behind them?

No. Just wires. :-)

I don't have a "dedicated listening room", or I might experiment with
such
things.

A 1.2 million dollar house and the stereo has to share the room??? Have
you
thought about an addition to the house?

Real estate along prime coastal areas like Del Mar in San Diego is far
more
expensive than in at least 95% of the country. For what I paid and what
my
house is now worth, I could afford a huge mansion on 10 acres in many
parts
of the country, but I prefer being where I am for many reasons, not the
least of which is the top-notch school system from K-12. It's a very
nice
two-story 5 bedroom, 4 1/2 bath house with just the right amount of room
for
our plans for children and family guests. But I converted a downstairs
bedroom into one law office, and one-third of the three-car garage into a
second law office.

I understand your situation better now. Thanks for the explination.

You're welcome.

Yes, I've thought about an additional house - e.g., in Lake Tahoe.
Realistically, that's too far away.


Ironically we are considering a second house that would be even further
away,
but that is a long story that is stillunfolding and not audio related.

Is RAO really "audio related" any more? :-)

But on a more serious note, I have a back yard which in the back third of
it
has a slope gradually leading upwards to the houses above (I live on a
slight hill). I'm seriously looking into the legal, geological, and
architectural possibilities of carving out of that hill enough space to
construct a very large studio - which would not just be a "dedicated
listening room" replete with Martin Logan's top-of the line "Statement"
speaker system, and ARC's or VTL's top of the line amps and preamps,
etc.,
etc., but also a drop-down-from-the-ceiling screen with a top of the line
projector and line quadrupler, with M/L surround speakers for video, plus
a
stage with a concert grand Steinway and a French harpsichord like the
two-keyboard one my neighbors across the street have + a sophisticated
recording/miking system so I can play and record keyboard with a variety
of
other musicians making a variety of types of music (and possibly
producing
some marketable CDs/DVD-As/SACDs/master tapes. I've already discussed
this
with JJ during his visits here (Jim Johnston, who used to post here) and
the
possibility of hiring him as a technical consultant, and he's definitely
enthused. When the time comes, I may even hire JA and others the two of
them may recommend.

The Statements are amoung the best speakers I have ever heard. I cannot
argue
with that choice. And they look good too.

I was blown away when I saw/heard them in a large room at a Stereophile show
in L.A. a few years back.

BTW, I understand you also have Martin Logans and ARC tube amps. Good
taste, matey. :-)

Thank you. It is a nice combo. Ever tried the AtmaSphere amps? I here
they
mate
well with the Soundlab full range electrostats. I am leaning towards
Soundlab
as a future upgrade.

I never listened to the Soundlabs outside of a CES and Stereophile show,
which isn't the best venue for them, but I do recall at one time they
were
J. Gordon Holt's speakers of choice in his home.

They are pretty amazing IMO.

Mr. Holt agrees.

For the time being, I'm not on the market for experimenting with other
components. I'm happy for the time being with what I have, despite a few
compromises. My ultimate dream-system, as described above, will
eventually
materialize, but my energies for the time being are focused on (1) my
wife
and her health and well-being during her pregnancy, (2) learning all I
can
about being the best father I can be once they're born, (3) saving and
investing for her and their future well-being, and (4) my work and the
welfare of my clients, which also include the elderly.

Fair enough. It looks like a huge project.

It's still in the idea/research stage.

Thus I'm a bit too busy with all that right now even to get into the
turntable system of my dreams and all the vinyl I'd love to purchase,
which
would fit in the current "family room". I did get a chance last spring
to
see and hear Marc Phillips' analogue system, and really like it. He has
an
excellent TT and arm, great vinyl collection, and a superb cartridge, far
better than the more expensive version by the same manufacturer. Again,
he
agreed with me that sitting a few feet back from his set-up listening
position improved the sound and eliminated some slight boominess in the
bass. Room size and speaker placement can make a lot of difference in a
lot
of systems.

I have heard his tuntable as well and I like it too. I think however the
Rosewood Pro is the best of the Koetsu line.

Ahh... but the price difference!

Those Soundlabs are pretty huge, BTW. What size of a room do you plan on
putting them in?

I was thinking about the A3s not the U1s.

Gotcha. Good luck with your upgrades!

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See my response to Marc (Wheel) above.


That would be Scott not Marc.

Please note my correction above - Scott Wheeler, right?