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Now comes the P.W.B. Electronics concept.
Assumptions: 1. "throughout millions of years of evolution, all the creatures from the very earliest of creatures had to be able to read (sense) energy patterns in the environment, to be able to make sense of these energy patterns in order to know what action to take, in order to survive." 2. "That, because of the modern environment we have never evolved the ability to 'deal with' these (new, strange) energy patterns." 3. "But, nevertheless, subconsciously, we are still attempting to resolve these energy patterns and anything we cannot resolve causes us to remain under tension." Therefo "This is why the more you treat items of equipment, wiring and cabling and objects in the environment to give a 'friendly' 'relaxing' energy pattern the more the quality of the sound improves, the more the quality of the TV picture improves and why live music sounds so much better." Marketing Pitch: "the Morphic Message Foils are equally important as they each carry a different and particular 'reassuring' message. And, all items of equipment require all of the different 'reassuring' messages - the more of the different Foils which are attached, the greater will be the beneficial effect." If you live in the USA and you purchase one of these products from P.W.B. Electronics based on Dr. Richard Graham representations and the product does not work you may file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/consumer/home.html BTW, is there a physical address and phone # for P.W.B. Electronics. How do people purchase these products... phone, internet direct mail? |
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![]() "Powell" wrote in message ... Now comes the P.W.B. Electronics concept. Assumptions: 1. "throughout millions of years of evolution, all the creatures from the very earliest of creatures had to be able to read (sense) energy patterns in the environment, to be able to make sense of these energy patterns in order to know what action to take, in order to survive." 2. "That, because of the modern environment we have never evolved the ability to 'deal with' these (new, strange) energy patterns." 3. "But, nevertheless, subconsciously, we are still attempting to resolve these energy patterns and anything we cannot resolve causes us to remain under tension." Therefo "This is why the more you treat items of equipment, wiring and cabling and objects in the environment to give a 'friendly' 'relaxing' energy pattern the more the quality of the sound improves, the more the quality of the TV picture improves and why live music sounds so much better." Marketing Pitch: "the Morphic Message Foils are equally important as they each carry a different and particular 'reassuring' message. And, all items of equipment require all of the different 'reassuring' messages - the more of the different Foils which are attached, the greater will be the beneficial effect." If you live in the USA and you purchase one of these products from P.W.B. Electronics based on Dr. Richard Graham representations and the product does not work you may file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/consumer/home.html BTW, is there a physical address and phone # for P.W.B. Electronics. How do people purchase these products... phone, internet direct mail? http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/ Read down the page. |
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![]() "soundhaspriority" wrote Now comes the P.W.B. Electronics concept. Assumptions: 1. "throughout millions of years of evolution, all the creatures from the very earliest of creatures had to be able to read (sense) energy patterns in the environment, to be able to make sense of these energy patterns in order to know what action to take, in order to survive." 2. "That, because of the modern environment we have never evolved the ability to 'deal with' these (new, strange) energy patterns." 3. "But, nevertheless, subconsciously, we are still attempting to resolve these energy patterns and anything we cannot resolve causes us to remain under tension." Therefo "This is why the more you treat items of equipment, wiring and cabling and objects in the environment to give a 'friendly' 'relaxing' energy pattern the more the quality of the sound improves, the more the quality of the TV picture improves and why live music sounds so much better." Marketing Pitch: "the Morphic Message Foils are equally important as they each carry a different and particular 'reassuring' message. And, all items of equipment require all of the different 'reassuring' messages - the more of the different Foils which are attached, the greater will be the beneficial effect." If you live in the USA and you purchase one of these products from P.W.B. Electronics based on Dr. Richard Graham representations and the product does not work you may file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/consumer/home.html BTW, is there a physical address and phone # for P.W.B. Electronics. How do people purchase these products... phone, internet direct mail? http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/ Read down the page. Thank you. Check out the link for their product line: http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/priceus.html And their first product listed Silver Rainbow Foil http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/product/ref/ref.html Product description: "170 mm long by 15 mm wide ($35). The interaction of all spinning discs with the gravitational force produces energy patterns that adversely affect the human being's ability to correctly perceive sound." How could this product work, scientifically speaking? Regarding "gravitational force produces energy patterns," the moon, for example, exerts a gravitational force on a human equal to a garden pea located approximately 20 inches above your head. To consider the net effect of a CD's gravitational force on a human would be infinitesimal. And $35 for foil, what a joke on the consumer. |
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"Powell" said:
Regarding "gravitational force produces energy patterns," the moon, for example, exerts a gravitational force on a human equal to a garden pea located approximately 20 inches above your head. You *do* know how the moon affects the tide? ;-) -- - Never argue with idiots, they drag you down their level and beat you with experience. - |
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Powell wrote:
"soundhaspriority" wrote Thank you. I don't know if you should be thanking your obsessive friend for helping you in your obsessions over me. You both need to go on a "soundhaspriority" 10-step addiction group, to reduce your addiction to me, junkie. Check out the link for their product line: http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/priceus.html And their first product listed Silver Rainbow Foil http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/product/ref/ref.html Naff stuff, in' it? Product description: "170 mm long by 15 mm wide ($35). The interaction of all spinning discs with the gravitational force produces energy patterns that adversely affect the human being's ability to correctly perceive sound." Works a treat too, mate. I should know, I have reams of the stuff all over my house. How could this product work, scientifically speaking? Like, who cares? Fact is, it works. You don't have to believe me. You get your money back if it doesn't. Nuff said. Regarding "gravitational force produces energy patterns," the moon, for example, exerts a gravitational force on a human equal to a garden pea located approximately 20 inches above your head. To consider the net effect of a CD's gravitational force on a human would be infinitesimal. Once again, I find you here blabbering on about completely misinterpreted and misunderstood scientific concepts, and then creating strawman arguments wherein you debate yourself. All because some little itsy bitsy silver foils threatened the holy heck out of you! The blurb is simply referring to the forces produced by the spinning disc, you ignorant moron. The energy patterns is another matter entirely, and you've already proven that you have no desire to understand those theories, only a desire to refute them. I myself refute that statement you quoted. It isn't wholly accurate, because the foils don't simply work on spinning objects (although this is how they are recommended for use by PWB when you buy the Silver Rainbow Foil kit). Most people do use them to enhance the sound of their favorite CDs, but some go beyond that, and use it on all kinds of objects, such as the cd player itself. Yesterday, I used it to enhance the sound of my Rega (not just the spinning parts). No conventional audio product improves the sound like the foils do. My tweaks, which EVERYONE HERE WHO HAS TRIED THEM HAS OBSERVED, have an effect on our perception of sound. The Silver Rainbow Foils, all combined, have an even greater effect than my free tweaks. And $35 for foil, what a joke on the consumer. You're right. It's a very specially treated type of laminated foil, that has amazing effects on any number of things, and improves your sound by a lot more than $35. They should charge more for what the product does, this is obviously a "joke" price. But, this is a case where the consumer wins, because PWB is a great company. I'm quite glad you went out of your way to research and deride the products actually. You mentioning them gives me a chance to talk about them, which I had not done until you mentioned them. The foil strips (you get 3) can be sliced up in 2mm segments, which produces a great many applications. Now I have tweaked my audio systems up the wazoo with conventional audio products, and there is NOTHING I have ever bought for $35 that does as much as the Silver Rainbow Foils does for audio. What the hell can you buy for $35 in the high end of audio? You can't even get decent rca plugs for $35, let alone interconnects! Are you telling me that you're such a broke ass slob, you can't even afford a $35 investment to bring your sound to new heights? You -would- whine about a lousy $35 bucks, wouldn't you, Powell? (BTW, thanks again for giving me the opportunity to talk about my love for Belt's revolutionary audio products. Please do some more research and find other such products to ridicule!) |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... Powell wrote: "soundhaspriority" wrote Thank you. I don't know if you should be thanking your obsessive friend for helping you in your obsessions over me. You both need to go on a "soundhaspriority" 10-step addiction group, to reduce your addiction to me, junkie. Richard, this is the way we treat con artists like you on this group. Get used to it. |
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![]() soundhaspriority wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Powell wrote: "soundhaspriority" wrote Thank you. I don't know if you should be thanking your obsessive friend for helping you in your obsessions over me. You both need to go on a "soundhaspriority" 10-step addiction group, to reduce your addiction to me, junkie. Richard, this is the way we treat con artists like you on this group. Get used to it. Who's Richard? |
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Powell wrote:
Now comes the P.W.B. Electronics concept. Therefo "This is why the more you treat items of equipment, wiring and cabling and objects in the environment to give a 'friendly' 'relaxing' energy pattern the more the quality of the sound improves, the more the quality of the TV picture improves and why live music sounds so much better." Marketing Pitch: "the Morphic Message Foils are equally important as they each carry a different and particular 'reassuring' message. And, all items of equipment require all of the different 'reassuring' messages - the more of the different Foils which are attached, the greater will be the beneficial effect." I'm still trying to figure out how hurling insults at people and getting into a protracted flame war comports with creating a "friendly relaxing energy pattern". I guess that's just one of life's little ironies. //Walt |
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![]() Walt wrote: Powell wrote: Now comes the P.W.B. Electronics concept. Therefo "This is why the more you treat items of equipment, wiring and cabling and objects in the environment to give a 'friendly' 'relaxing' energy pattern the more the quality of the sound improves, the more the quality of the TV picture improves and why live music sounds so much better." Marketing Pitch: "the Morphic Message Foils are equally important as they each carry a different and particular 'reassuring' message. And, all items of equipment require all of the different 'reassuring' messages - the more of the different Foils which are attached, the greater will be the beneficial effect." I'm still trying to figure out how hurling insults at people and getting into a protracted flame war comports with creating a "friendly relaxing energy pattern". I guess that's just one of life's little ironies. //Walt Hurling insults etc may not create a "friendly, relaxing energy pattern" but it certainly gets you to be talked about to a point of taking over this forum lock, stock and barrel. It may start all new trend in marketing. E.g. "You pigheaded moronic teenagers. How long will you ridicule the evidence that piercing your lip will bring you fame, recognition and love? Here is the expert evidence and testimony from Poppy Aniston and Jerree Jackson. And here is the address of expert piercers". The cat is out of the bag. In a message just above yours. Ludovic Mirabel |
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On 14 Apr 2006 23:17:35 -0700, "
wrote: Walt wrote: Powell wrote: Now comes the P.W.B. Electronics concept. Therefo "This is why the more you treat items of equipment, wiring and cabling and objects in the environment to give a 'friendly' 'relaxing' energy pattern the more the quality of the sound improves, the more the quality of the TV picture improves and why live music sounds so much better." Marketing Pitch: "the Morphic Message Foils are equally important as they each carry a different and particular 'reassuring' message. And, all items of equipment require all of the different 'reassuring' messages - the more of the different Foils which are attached, the greater will be the beneficial effect." I'm still trying to figure out how hurling insults at people and getting into a protracted flame war comports with creating a "friendly relaxing energy pattern". I guess that's just one of life's little ironies. //Walt Hurling insults etc may not create a "friendly, relaxing energy pattern" but it certainly gets you to be talked about to a point of taking over this forum lock, stock and barrel. Actually I think typing very fast does that, Ludovic. Very, very, very fast. There's something to be said for quantity over quality, at least when it comes to wearing down your opponents. |
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![]() wrote in message ups.com... wrote: Walt wrote: Hurling insults etc may not create a "friendly, relaxing energy pattern" but it certainly gets you to be talked about to a point of taking over this forum lock, stock and barrel. If that's true, then you have taken over this forum "lock, stock and barrel" for having hurled insults at me and others, and come to think of it.... so has EVERYONE here taken over the forum "lock, stock and barrel". Funny how your delusions don't look so hot when you shine a bright spotlight on them, Elmira. There are no delusions here, Dr. Richard Graham. You are a real bull**** artist, plain and simple. |
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soundhaspriority wrote:
wrote How can I, or anyone, "take over this forum lock, stock and barrel", pray tell? Everyone here is free to read or respond to anyone elses messages, or to not respond. Did I just force you to write about me? What about Powell? Did I force him to write another obsessive attack thread about me? Am I forcing either you OR him to read me? NO! Even when I put up a thread politely asking people to ignore me and stop OBSESSING about me, you simply refuse to! So grow up and take responsibility for your *own* actions like a big boy, Elvira. You are a bull**** artist, a con man with a nasty attitude. Yo, don't talk about our brother that way. - Sound Hasp Riot Orgy |
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![]() Powell escalates his obsession with me, long after he claimed to stop "caring": Powell tirade #43 snipped If you live in the USA and you purchase one of these products from P.W.B. Electronics based on Dr. Richard Graham representations and the product does not work you may file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/consumer/home.html LOL! Powell, I see that your little obsession with me continues unabated. It appears that you are at risk of becoming quite as psychotically obsessed as your little friend Robert Morein. Will you be posting under my name as well? I can already see a few problems with your latest obsessive tirade about me. First, Dr. Graham does not represent PWB products. He's only a customer and has no association except as editor of the chat group's newsletters. Secondly, he's not on this newsgroup. That would be your idiotic mistake, for listening to Robert's delusions. Third, since Robert's claiming to be me, and I'm not claiming to be Graham, that would make Robert Richard. IOW, you just tagged your best friend on this group as being a "PIMP". What kind of a lowlife slimeball are you to talk about your friends that way, Powell? Lastly, since when does the Federal Trade Commission in the US govern audio products from British companies, you freaking maniac? If that's the case, then ALL audio products, whether consumer audio or high end audio, are equally protected by the FTC. Don't feel that your home theatre set up is "working as you expect"? No problem! The FTC is here to save your dough, and get you an instant refund! Of course, in all of your obsessive research on Belt's site, you didn't notice the fact that they already provide money back guarantees on all their products, if you don't like them. Which already goes further than almost every other hifi audio company does, and which means you don't need to invent stories about the FTC "protecting you from purchasing audio products that you're not satisfied with". Say Powell, I bought a Bic pen that keeps shorting out on me, and won't write properly. Can you give me the contact info for the Federal Trade Commission so I can complain to them that my Bic pen doesn't work as advertised? ROTFLMAO!! Powell, you really are the idiot that people say you are. But nonetheless, you have a long ways to go before you get to be as "crazy obsessed" as your friend Robert, but you're definitely on your way there. Congrats! You've just become an insane lowlife as well! Well.... you two must have a lot to talk about, so I'll let you get on with that.... BTW, is there a physical address and phone # for P.W.B. Electronics. How do people purchase these products... phone, internet direct mail? Orders by mind linkage only. IOW, if you have to ask, then you are not allowed to buy them. |
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![]() wrote If you live in the USA and you purchase one of these products from P.W.B. Electronics based on Dr. Richard Graham representations and the product does not work you may file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/consumer/home.html LOL! Powell, I see that your little obsession with me continues unabated. Calm yourself, I never mentioned your name, rube. First, Dr. Graham does not represent PWB products. False statement. Where are all those Dollar Store fixes claiming to turn a pig's ear into a silk purse? |
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![]() Powell wrote: wrote If you live in the USA and you purchase one of these products from P.W.B. Electronics based on Dr. Richard Graham representations and the product does not work you may file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/consumer/home.html LOL! Powell, I see that your little obsession with me continues unabated. Calm yourself, I never mentioned your name, rube. That's right, but like your friend and equally obsessed friend "Crazy Bob Morein", you think I'm Richard Graham. You have about as much credibility as you do when you post strawman arguments arguing with yourself over the theories of my tweaks or Belt products. First, Dr. Graham does not represent PWB products. False statement. True statement. Isn't this fun? Where are all those Dollar Store fixes claiming to turn a pig's ear into a silk purse? Why? Too cheap to buy the real Belt products are you? Need a loan, broke-ass? |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... Powell wrote: wrote If you live in the USA and you purchase one of these products from P.W.B. Electronics based on Dr. Richard Graham representations and the product does not work you may file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/consumer/home.html LOL! Powell, I see that your little obsession with me continues unabated. Calm yourself, I never mentioned your name, rube. That's right, but like your friend and equally obsessed friend "Crazy Bob Morein", you think I'm Richard Graham. You have about as much credibility as you do when you post strawman arguments arguing with yourself over the theories of my tweaks or Belt products. First, Dr. Graham does not represent PWB products. False statement. True statement. Isn't this fun? Where are all those Dollar Store fixes claiming to turn a pig's ear into a silk purse? Why? Too cheap to buy the real Belt products are you? Need a loan, broke-ass? Richard, let's understand our respective goals: 1. Your goal is to sell the PWB **** to the untapped market of American fools. 2. Our goal is to prevent it, because it is sheer fraud. Powell, Middius, westpase-he_ac, and myself, et al. believe that exposure is the key. We aim to keep you in the spotlight. You have the brilliant countermeasure of crossposting bull**** to multiple newsgroups and posting the kind of stuff McCarty has already done in spades, for around 7 years.. We're not worried about that. The fact that you disregard what is commonly called netiquette might even be regarded as nasty by some potential buyers. A long, long time ago, six or seven years ago, Brian L. McCarty posted, for me to read, "Now you're really gonna get it." And he turned on the spickets of cross-post libel and mailbox bombing full blast. Several thousand such posts later, guess what? I'm still here, and Brian's web ventures are in ruins. Happy Easter 2015. There are interesting sociological studies of the Gypsies, who call non-Gypsies "gadje", or fools. Dealing as they do with the dumbest, most gullible victims for their scams, they have a mistaken impression of non-Gypsies as a whole. Just between you and me, Richard, I think that dealing as you do with disturbed adolescents and, in many cases, their disfunctional parents, has given you a warped view of humanity. It gives you the impression that everyone is semiconscious, and without purpose or resolve. This is not the case. No matter how smart one is, there is always someone of superior intelligence. And the riddle is like an onion. It is impossible to tell, especially over the web, whether you are dealing with the actual person, or just the loose skin of the onion. This is why I know you have a problem. Every bit of your approach is keyed to the idea that you actually understand the people you are dealing with. It takes a lot of arrogance to assume that each of us can be dealt with by versions of the techniques you use so effectively with adolescents. Richard, most of us are hardened by fire. You'll find a few impressionable souls , but, as I told you earlier, rec.audio.opinion is a minature version of Hell. |
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Powell escalates his obsession with me, long after he claimed to stop "caring": Powell tirade #43 snipped If you live in the USA and you purchase one of these products from P.W.B. Electronics based on Dr. Richard Graham representations and the product does not work you may file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/consumer/home.html LOL! Powell, I see that your little obsession with me continues unabated. It appears that you are at risk of becoming quite as psychotically obsessed as your little friend Robert Morein. Will you be posting under my name as well? I can already see a few problems with your latest obsessive tirade about me. First, Dr. Graham does not represent PWB products. He's only a customer and has no association except as editor of the chat group's newsletters. Secondly, he's not on this newsgroup. That would be your idiotic mistake, for listening to Robert's delusions. Third, since Robert's claiming to be me, and I'm not claiming to be Graham, that would make Robert Richard. IOW, you just tagged your best friend on this group as being a "PIMP". What kind of a lowlife slimeball are you to talk about your friends that way, Powell? Lastly, since when does the Federal Trade Commission in the US govern audio products from British companies, you freaking maniac? If that's the case, then ALL audio products, whether consumer audio or high end audio, are equally protected by the FTC. Don't feel that your home theatre set up is "working as you expect"? No problem! The FTC is here to save your dough, and get you an instant refund! Of course, in all of your obsessive research on Belt's site, you didn't notice the fact that they already provide money back guarantees on all their products, if you don't like them. Which already goes further than almost every other hifi audio company does, and which means you don't need to invent stories about the FTC "protecting you from purchasing audio products that you're not satisfied with". Say Powell, I bought a Bic pen that keeps shorting out on me, and won't write properly. Can you give me the contact info for the Federal Trade Commission so I can complain to them that my Bic pen doesn't work as advertised? ROTFLMAO!! Powell, you really are the idiot that people say you are. But nonetheless, you have a long ways to go before you get to be as "crazy obsessed" as your friend Robert, but you're definitely on your way there. Congrats! You've just become an insane lowlife as well! Well.... you two must have a lot to talk about, so I'll let you get on with that.... BTW, is there a physical address and phone # for P.W.B. Electronics. How do people purchase these products... phone, internet direct mail? Orders by mind linkage only. IOW, if you have to ask, then you are not allowed to buy them. I'll be happy to take your order, or anyone else's for that matter. Contact me offline with your bank account number and I'll arrange for the transfer. Always happy to help. - Sound Hasp Riot Orgy |
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