http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

http://www.apple.com/support/product...ecareipod.html

The two-year warranty covers battery replacement.

Stephen

"MINe 109" wrote in message


In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

http://www.apple.com/support/product...ecareipod.html

The two-year warranty covers battery replacement.

What two-year warranty?

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Im...oduct%20Warran
ty

"All new Apple hardware products, including clearance and refurbished
products, carry a one-year Limited Warranty against defects in materials and
workmanship. You may review a copy of the Limited Warranty on new products,
including its limitations and exclusions, before you purchase, by clicking
the appropriate link below."

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Im...dwarranty.html

"Apple Computer, Inc. ("Apple") warrants the iPod and iSight product against
defects in materials and workmanship for a period of one (1) year from the
date of original purchase ("Warranty Period"). "

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:23:03 GMT, MINe 109
wrote:

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

http://www.apple.com/support/product...ecareipod.html

The two-year warranty covers battery replacement.

And there's this:

http://www.ipodbattery.com/

And others like them.

I'm more upset about the stupid non-defeatable volume cap on the Euro
models.

My old 10 gigger still works well--no noticeable loss of battery
performance. I use it regularly for four/five hours and the battery
indicator shows two of the three charge bars. Not sure whether it
would still run the specified ten hours, but there *are* replacement
batteries available. The original battery that came with my Vaio lasts
about ten minutes these days--and no warning before it caves in. Eek!

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td

"The Radioactive Ninja Titboxer" wrote in message
news:747i10duaa429dt2rofv3cgd5q35io7ag0@rdmzrnewst xt.nz
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:23:03 GMT, MINe 109
wrote:

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

http://www.apple.com/support/product...ecareipod.html

The two-year warranty covers battery replacement.

And there's this:

http://www.ipodbattery.com/

And others like them.

I'm more upset about the stupid non-defeatable volume cap on the Euro
models.

I thought there was a firmware update that addressed this.

My old 10 gigger still works well--no noticeable loss of battery
performance. I use it regularly for four/five hours and the battery
indicator shows two of the three charge bars. Not sure whether it
would still run the specified ten hours, but there *are* replacement
batteries available.

At a mildly exorbitant price, and via a procedure that isn't for the
fumble-fingered. Plan B is send the box back to Apple for the $99
replacement, at the cost of all the files on your current iPod.

The original battery that came with my Vaio lasts
about ten minutes these days--and no warning before it caves in. Eek!

Hopefully its a tad more replicable than the battery on an iPod.

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:15:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

I'm more upset about the stupid non-defeatable volume cap on the Euro
models.

I thought there was a firmware update that addressed this.

I don't know. If what I've been told by Apple is true (and speaking to
them is very much like drawing blood from a stone), there is no way
around the volume cap. I was eventually told that the Euro models are
physically different to the US models and, therefore, a workaround to
the cap is not possible.

There was a Euro firmware 'update' for the earlier iPods that hobbled
the player's output, but only a fool would choose to implement that
particular upgrade. My old iPod has sound quality superior to the new
version, and it also plays much, much louder. A shame, because I
really liked the styling of the new version.

Oh, and I hear that the new versions actually work now. Which is nice.
Mine crashed constantly, the buttons would randomly stop working,
etc., etc.

My old 10 gigger still works well--no noticeable loss of battery
performance. I use it regularly for four/five hours and the battery
indicator shows two of the three charge bars. Not sure whether it
would still run the specified ten hours, but there *are* replacement
batteries available.

At a mildly exorbitant price, and via a procedure that isn't for the
fumble-fingered. Plan B is send the box back to Apple for the $99
replacement, at the cost of all the files on your current iPod.

I've only read the 'how-tos'. Didn't seem too much trouble. The
batteries come with the requisite tool to open the iPod.

The original battery that came with my Vaio lasts
about ten minutes these days--and no warning before it caves in. Eek!

Hopefully its a tad more replicable than the battery on an iPod.

It's nice that Sony dropped the price from ~£360 to ~£160 a few months
after I bought two. They didn't sting me on their 'proprietary'
SO-DIMMS, though.

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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message


In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

http://www.apple.com/support/product...ecareipod.html

The two-year warranty covers battery replacement.

What two-year warranty?

Follow the link ("AppleCare Protection Plan for iPod") on the page I
cited above.

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Im...oduct%20Warran
ty

"All new Apple hardware products, including clearance and refurbished
products, carry a one-year Limited Warranty against defects in materials and
workmanship. You may review a copy of the Limited Warranty on new products,
including its limitations and exclusions, before you purchase, by clicking
the appropriate link below."

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Im...dwarranty.html

"Apple Computer, Inc. ("Apple") warrants the iPod and iSight product against
defects in materials and workmanship for a period of one (1) year from the
date of original purchase ("Warranty Period"). "

AppleCare extends it to two years for less than the cost of a new
battery.

If you're worried about your iTunes file:

http://www.apple.com/ipod/autosync.html

"MINe 109" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message


In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

http://www.apple.com/support/product...ecareipod.html

The two-year warranty covers battery replacement.

What two-year warranty?

Follow the link ("AppleCare Protection Plan for iPod") on the page I
cited above.


http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Im...oduct%20Warran
ty

"All new Apple hardware products, including clearance and refurbished
products, carry a one-year Limited Warranty against defects in
materials and workmanship. You may review a copy of the Limited
Warranty on new products, including its limitations and exclusions,
before you purchase, by clicking the appropriate link below."

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Im...dwarranty.html

"Apple Computer, Inc. ("Apple") warrants the iPod and iSight product
against defects in materials and workmanship for a period of one (1)
year from the date of original purchase ("Warranty Period"). "

AppleCare extends it to two years

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Im...oriPod0104.pdf

IOW, there is no two-year warranty, but rather there is an extended support
and repair program.

It's not even called a warranty by Apple, but rather it's called "AppleCare
Protection Plan for iPod"

for less than the cost of a new battery.

The plan costs $59 for the second year, but demands that you tolerate a 50%
decrease in battery life before seeking repair.

However, this source sells batteries for most iPods that would need a
replacement, for only $49.

http://store.l-f-l.com/cgi-bin/cp-ap...731733&rrc=N&c
ip=12.226.3.80&pg=prod&ref=UP325385A4H&cat=

In conventional math, $49 $59, no matter what RAO's iPod defense league
may claim.

If you're worried about your iTunes file:

http://www.apple.com/ipod/autosync.html

Now how does synching work if your battery is dead? I've seen iPods with
dead batteries that wouldn't communicate with their host PC until the
battery was at least partially recharged. If a recharge is impossible
because the battery is shot, where does that leave you?

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message


In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

http://www.apple.com/support/product...ecareipod.html

The two-year warranty covers battery replacement.

What two-year warranty?

Follow the link ("AppleCare Protection Plan for iPod") on the page I
cited above.


http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Im...oduct%20Warran
ty

"All new Apple hardware products, including clearance and refurbished
products, carry a one-year Limited Warranty against defects in
materials and workmanship. You may review a copy of the Limited
Warranty on new products, including its limitations and exclusions,
before you purchase, by clicking the appropriate link below."

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Im...dwarranty.html

"Apple Computer, Inc. ("Apple") warrants the iPod and iSight product
against defects in materials and workmanship for a period of one (1)
year from the date of original purchase ("Warranty Period"). "

AppleCare extends it to two years

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Im...oriPod0104.pdf

IOW, there is no two-year warranty, but rather there is an extended support
and repair program.

It's not even called a warranty by Apple, but rather it's called "AppleCare
Protection Plan for iPod"

So what? It extends the warranty to two years.

for less than the cost of a new battery.

The plan costs $59 for the second year, but demands that you tolerate a 50%
decrease in battery life before seeking repair.

However, this source sells batteries for most iPods that would need a
replacement, for only $49.

http://store.l-f-l.com/cgi-bin/cp-ap...731733&rrc=N&c
ip=12.226.3.80&pg=prod&ref=UP325385A4H&cat=

Ugh. Bad URL.

In conventional math, $49 $59, no matter what RAO's iPod defense league
may claim.

Less than the former cost of a new battery from Apple. Happy now?

If you're worried about your iTunes file:

http://www.apple.com/ipod/autosync.html

Now how does synching work if your battery is dead? I've seen iPods with
dead batteries that wouldn't communicate with their host PC until the
battery was at least partially recharged. If a recharge is impossible
because the battery is shot, where does that leave you?

Dude, you're being argumentative. Use iSynch regularly, and a sudden
failure won't be as big a problem. Return the iPod when the 50% point
you refer to is reached. Synch it up again just before sending it to
Apple; a seasoned computer pro like yourself will have no trouble doing
that.

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:36:47 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

IOW,

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...aiwan_whale_dc

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:01:34 +0000, The Radioactive Ninja Titboxer
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:36:47 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

IOW,

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...aiwan_whale_dc

A little known fact is that this is actually one of the Seven Seals -
unfortunately, the phrase "exploding whale" was transmogrified into
"pestilence" by a mischievious monk in the 6th Century.

So, get ready for the trumpets - they're on the way...if there's a
story in the coming weeks about ducks flying backwards in the shape of
the state of Israel, you'll know there will be no need to set your
alarm clock for the next morning. You see, that's the specific "sign
in the heavens" that is the Sixth Seal - that same monk decided to be
as vague as possible.

In article z,
The Radioactive Ninja Titboxer wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:36:47 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

IOW,

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...&u=/nm/2004012
9/od_nm/taiwan_whale_dc

A whale named "Creosote"!

Stephen

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:14:39 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...aiwan_whale_dc

A little known fact is that this is actually one of the Seven Seals -
unfortunately, the phrase "exploding whale" was transmogrified into
"pestilence" by a mischievious monk in the 6th Century.

So, get ready for the trumpets - they're on the way...if there's a
story in the coming weeks about ducks flying backwards in the shape of
the state of Israel, you'll know there will be no need to set your
alarm clock for the next morning. You see, that's the specific "sign
in the heavens" that is the Sixth Seal - that same monk decided to be
as vague as possible.

Thanks for that. Now I have an excuse for finishing that bottle of
Scotch.

BTW, we tried Rosemount Shiraz a few days ago. Quite beyond the usual
offerings at that price. It was really nice with pasta (a meal, not
mixed in with it, note), but didn't go so well with curry the next
day.

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Arny Krueger wrote:
http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/



The real dirty little secret IMHO is that Apple used the public to do
their beta testing of their new IPods. My first new version was returned
the first week. The second one worked well enough to hold on to it. But
after a year, and several firmware upgrades, including Itunes for
Windows, it now works just fine. But it was one buggy POS until they
updated the firmware a couple of times. I would never had bought it if
not for that dam Devil talking me into it. Then he returns his new
version and laughs at me for buying into his propaganda!! That dam Devil!!

Kernith D.L.I.D. (sharpening his knives,dulling his drills)

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 19:35:28 GMT, Doktor Kernith
wrote:

The real dirty little secret IMHO is that Apple used the public to do
their beta testing of their new IPods. My first new version was returned
the first week. The second one worked well enough to hold on to it. But
after a year, and several firmware upgrades, including Itunes for
Windows, it now works just fine. But it was one buggy POS until they
updated the firmware a couple of times. I would never had bought it if
not for that dam Devil talking me into it. Then he returns his new
version and laughs at me for buying into his propaganda!! That dam Devil!!

I'm still waiting for you to experience The Quad Enlightenment. I hope
you don't buy any, because I really don't want to have to send those
back.

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The Radioactive Ninja Titboxer wrote:
!!


I'm still waiting for you to experience The Quad Enlightenment. I hope
you don't buy any, because I really don't want to have to send those
back.

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I might as well buy some Quads since all the new music is dynamically
compressed anyway....

:-))

Kernith ( bringing in his "new" rusty instruments from the clothes line)

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:15:38 GMT, Doktor Kernith
wrote:

I might as well buy some Quads since all the new music is dynamically
compressed anyway....

:-))

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ever since I gave you a £5-a-week pay rise, you've
been a bit too big for your boots.

Kernith ( bringing in his "new" rusty instruments from the clothes line)

Where the **** have you been all morning? You promised me *last night*
that those new drills were properly blunted and the spark plug wiring
on the chain saw had been successfully connected to the cutting end.

And why hasn't this been brought to my dental dungeon yet?

http://www.mitsubishi.or.jp/e/monito.../NEW/robot.gif

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And why hasn't this been brought to my dental dungeon yet?

http://www.mitsubishi.or.jp/e/monito.../NEW/robot.gif

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I was using it to reposition my Sonus Faber Amatis. A proper loudspeaker
with mass and balls and port holes.( three nice tight ones)

Kernith

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:23:34 GMT, Doktor Kernith
wrote:

I was using it to reposition my Sonus Faber Amatis. A proper loudspeaker
with mass and balls and port holes.( three nice tight ones)

Bleh. I only like speakers that can kill you when they're naked.

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Captain wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:23:34 GMT, Doktor Kernith
wrote:


I was using it to reposition my Sonus Faber Amatis. A proper loudspeaker
with mass and balls and port holes.( three nice tight ones)


Bleh. I only like speakers that can kill you when they're naked.

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Well the holes in the diaphragm are certainly large enough for you
needs...

Kernith

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:57:56 GMT, Doktor Kernith
wrote:

Well the holes in the diaphragm are certainly large enough for you
needs...

I'm going to run over you with my car.

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td

Captain wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:57:56 GMT, Doktor Kernith
wrote:


Well the holes in the diaphragm are certainly large enough for you
needs...


I'm going to run over you with my car.

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I can out run your Yugo...oh I mean Metro...

Kernith

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:26:41 GMT, Doktor Kernith
wrote:

I can out run your Yugo...oh I mean Metro...

Not now it's had a new tyre fitted.

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Captain wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:26:41 GMT, Doktor Kernith
wrote:


I can out run your Yugo...oh I mean Metro...


Not now it's had a new tyre fitted.

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td

Next time, check out this site for Metro wheels and parts.

http://www.kidswheels.com/index.cfm?catid=148


Kernith

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:50:33 +0000, Captain Fire Farter, The
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:23:34 GMT, Doktor Kernith
wrote:

I was using it to reposition my Sonus Faber Amatis. A proper loudspeaker
with mass and balls and port holes.( three nice tight ones)

Bleh. I only like speakers that can kill you when they're naked.

Tell you what - stand at the bottom of the Tower of London and let me
drop a naked Amatis on your head and let's see what happens.

Or maybe I should try to avoid a non-vital area, eh?

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:08:37 +0000, Captain Fire Farter, The
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:57:56 GMT, Doktor Kernith
wrote:

Well the holes in the diaphragm are certainly large enough for you
needs...

I'm going to run over you with my car.

Will a Smart Car do much more than tickle?

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 11:20:34 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

I'm going to run over you with my car.

Will a Smart Car do much more than tickle?

Don't you bloody start.

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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 11:19:53 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

Bleh. I only like speakers that can kill you when they're naked.

Tell you what - stand at the bottom of the Tower of London and let me
drop a naked Amatis on your head and let's see what happens.

Or maybe I should try to avoid a non-vital area, eh?

Maybe my penchant for 'stats has some connection with my penchant for
wrapping myself in cling-film. I really don't know.

Sorry . . . where were we?

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td

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 17:03:09 GMT, Doktor Kernith
wrote:

Next time, check out this site for Metro wheels and parts.

http://www.kidswheels.com/index.cfm?catid=148

Wrong website.

http://tinyurl.com/2a34y

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td

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 17:48:54 +0000, Captain Fire Farter, The
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 11:19:53 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

Bleh. I only like speakers that can kill you when they're naked.

Tell you what - stand at the bottom of the Tower of London and let me
drop a naked Amatis on your head and let's see what happens.

Or maybe I should try to avoid a non-vital area, eh?

Maybe my penchant for 'stats has some connection with my penchant for
wrapping myself in cling-film. I really don't know.

Sorry . . . where were we?

We were dropping a speaker on your head. Do you think the Beefeaters
will mind?

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:03:29 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

We were dropping a speaker on your head. Do you think the Beefeaters
will mind?

Not if I wear my best red pinafore.

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td

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:58:50 +0000, Captain Fire Farter, The
wrote:

We were dropping a speaker on your head. Do you think the Beefeaters
will mind?

Not if I wear my best red pinafore.

P.S. Now playing: Yeoman of the Guard.

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td

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:58:50 +0000, Captain Fire Farter, The
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:03:29 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

We were dropping a speaker on your head. Do you think the Beefeaters
will mind?

Not if I wear my best red pinafore.

HMS?

Boy, I'm glad I'm off tonight. I can concoct other methods of crowning
you with Fabers. I've already designed a suitable catapult. I was also
thinking of one of the Coyote-employed ACME giant slingshots.

The next plan will be determing the proper amount of C-4 speaker
damping. Do you prefer to have any identifiable body parts or do you
wish to be vaporized?

I'm by the phone if you wish to consult. I have designed a special
answering machine message just for you, so if the phone rings, I will
let the message play and hope that the call isn't someone offering me
a job.

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 14:55:42 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:58:50 +0000, Captain Fire Farter, The
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:03:29 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

We were dropping a speaker on your head. Do you think the Beefeaters
will mind?

Not if I wear my best red pinafore.

HMS?

Boy, I'm glad I'm off tonight. I can concoct other methods of crowning
you with Fabers. I've already designed a suitable catapult. I was also
thinking of one of the Coyote-employed ACME giant slingshots.

The next plan will be determing the proper amount of C-4 speaker
damping. Do you prefer to have any identifiable body parts or do you
wish to be vaporized?

I'm by the phone if you wish to consult. I have designed a special
answering machine message just for you, so if the phone rings, I will
let the message play and hope that the call isn't someone offering me
a job.

Oh, OK. I can see this is going to be regrettable. Listen out for me.
Ever since I picked up my homosexual lisp, I ring with a capital
SPPRSRSRPR.

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