This is supposed to be an audio group. Get over yourselves. I can't
understand why this group has turned into the Arny-bashing, punk-ass
playground for self-important golden-ears that it has. Politics has no place
here. If you can't just listen to the music you shouldn't be posting.

Right now I'm listening to the CSO's rendition of Stravinsky's "The Sacre
du Printemps". Next up is Soundgarden's "Outshined". I have Behringer Truth
monitors playing through an M-Audio card.

What are you listening to?

Does it even matter here?

I would so *love* to hear what all you self-important dolts are listening
to. Hey, you might even educate me, the tubeguy. Please, educate me in the
ways of highend. You all are such a bunch of dorks, as am I, that I would no
doubt benefit from any flaming.

Where flames start, I end. This is a plea for sanity. Please think about
your posts before making them. Make them cognizant of the listening act.
Make them relevant to the act of listening to music. After all, isn't this
what rao is about? Or have I been so absorbed in my day-to-day life that I
lost focus?

No, I think this group had lost focus.

Every time I refresh RAO it is a chore, because I know I will have to weed
out all the bull****. This group is about the reproduction of music. There's
no room for the anger and deceit present in the general postings of this
group. What's with you people? I'm pointing my finger at you too, Arny. You
let these dumb****s get to you, and respond, however soberly, with
retribution. This group is not about who is better than who. It's about What
Sounds Good.

I have a basement apartment with an old lath-and plaster construction. I
listen to music over traditional Paradigms on lead-shot-weighted stands.
They take me places. Why doesn't this group recognize this journey? All I
see is bull****. This guy sucks, that guy can't hear, this other guy
wouldn't know a proper symphony if it dropped on his head.

I'm here to tell you all that this group, which of couse I have no actual
contol over, is about *MUSIC*. The banal garbage that I have to sift through
to get to some meaningful commentary is just driving this poster nuts. For
God's sake people, talk about the music! Why else does this group even
exist?

Respectfully submitted by Joe (tubeguy)
Yep, the same 6ca7's are stilll making me happy. I owe it all to my
isolation transformer and my aging ears.

--

Joseph Lee Plaziak
Webmaster
1800sunbeam.com
Household Appliance Sales and Service Co.

DISCLAIMER:
I wrote it with notepad and made the most of what I had. It sucks, and we're
upgrading to an actual big-buck site this month.

tµÞêgü¥ said:

This is supposed to be an audio group. Get over yourselves. I can't
understand why this group has turned into the Arny-bashing, punk-ass
playground for self-important golden-ears that it has.

On RAO, we have several names for people who don't recognize Krooger
for what he/it is. You should know these labels don't run the full
gamut from Benevolent Angelic Genius down to Satanic Hate-Spewing
Asshole. In fact, they're concentrated pretty heavily in the nether
end of that spectrum.

And that's not a coincidence. People don't "bash" the Krooborg for
kicks; they do it because he incites them to it. The fact that you
see only the reaction and not the instigations tells me there's
something wrong with you. You'll probably say you don't know what
I'm talking about, an assertion that is tantamount to Nixon saying
he was not a crook.

"George M. Middius" wrote in message


People don't "bash" the Krooborg for
kicks; they do it because he incites them to it.

George I'll admit it. I bash you and expose your hypocrisy for kicks. Thanks
for being such a fat target.

I'll also admit that I go way out of my way to incite dupes of vinylism,
tubism, and golden-earism, every chance I get. OTOH, if someone likes to
listen to tubes or vinyl, and knows what they are doing, no problem, no
foul. Remember, I have tubes and vinyl that I listen to, as well.

The fact that you
see only the reaction and not the instigations tells me there's
something wrong with you.

Oh, I think he sees the instigations. Instigations are like crap on the
sidewalk, you step in it or not. If you keep your eyes open, whether you do
so or not is a choice, not an accident.

Actually George there's a heck of a lot more wrong with you than just about
anybody else around here. You are such a loser that you keep the details of
your pathetic life a secret from all but your most trusted admirers. You are
in fact one of the most hated persons on Usenet. Like most of your
worshippers, you are a creature of just RAO and near surroundings, fearful
to venture far from the protective shell of a-holes you've collected and
nurtured here on RAO.

You'll probably say you don't know what
I'm talking about, an assertion that is tantamount to Nixon saying
he was not a crook.

I think most everybody with a brain knows what you're talking about George.
You're talking about your years-long vendetta against me, all due to the
fact that when it comes to audio, you're just not up to my class, or the
class of anybody with brain. Other than a shrinking crew of mindless
know-nothings, and the hard-up audio editor of a shrinking ragazine, you've
got virtually no credibility at all.

Arny said:

You're talking about your years-long vendetta against me, all due to the
fact that when it comes to audio, you're just not up to my class, or the
class of anybody with brain. Other than a shrinking crew of mindless
know-nothings, and the hard-up audio editor of a shrinking ragazine, you've
got virtually no credibility at all.

do you realize how ****ing stupid and pretentious you are?

who gives a rats ass about rec.audio.opinion? you're basing your entire ego on
some ****ing little newsgroup? you are pathetic!

- k i t z -
i will take you to the oracle, but first i must aporogize.
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com

kitznegari blah-blah-blah said:

You're talking about your years-long vendetta against me, all due to the
fact that when it comes to audio, you're just not up to my class, or the
class of anybody with brain. Other than a shrinking crew of mindless
know-nothings, and the hard-up audio editor of a shrinking ragazine, you've
got virtually no credibility at all.

do you realize how ****ing stupid and pretentious you are?

Now you're catching on.

"kitznegari thinks it has wings" wrote in message


Arny said:

You're talking about your years-long vendetta against me, all due to
the fact that when it comes to audio, you're just not up to my
class, or the class of anybody with brain. Other than a shrinking
crew of mindless know-nothings, and the hard-up audio editor of a
shrinking ragazine, you've got virtually no credibility at all.

do you realize how ****ing stupid and pretentious you are?

do you realize how childish you are?

who gives a rats ass about rec.audio.opinion?

My point exactly, as clearly laid out in the text you childishly deleted.

you're basing your entire ego on some ****ing little newsgroup?

Not I!

you are pathetic!

Kitz, you really ought to learn how to read, or as you once said when you
were in a more conscious state:

thanks for missing the point.

arny said:

thanks for missing the point.

you're not going to troll me like you're doing to the rest of the newsgroup,
****wit.

have a nice day.

- k i t z -
i will take you to the oracle, but first i must aporogize.
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com

People don't "bash" the Krooborg for
kicks; they do it because he incites them to it. The fact that you
see only the reaction and not the instigations tells me there's
something wrong with you.

the fact that you let some childish comments incite you says that there is
something wrong with *you*. if you "realize" what krooger is, why do you
respond to him and encourage him to stick around?

- k i t z -
i will take you to the oracle, but first i must aporogize.
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com

kitznegari blah-blah-blah said:

People don't "bash" the Krooborg for
kicks; they do it because he incites them to it. The fact that you
see only the reaction and not the instigations tells me there's
something wrong with you.

the fact that you let some childish comments incite you says that there is
something wrong with *you*. if you "realize" what krooger is, why do you
respond to him and encourage him to stick around?

As the saying goes on RAO, either you're lying or you're an idiot.

I *don't* respond to it. Rarely, anyway. Stupid much? ;-) As for
"encouraging" ****-for-Brains to "stick around", that's quite an
ingenuous notion. You really have no idea what the Krooborg is, how
sick and twisted it is, or why it traded what could have been a
normal-ish life with its wife and children for an online existence
in which it is abused and humiliated day after day.

BTW, Usenet etiquette requires you to quote the person to whose post
you're responding. Ignorant much? ;-)

George M. Middius a écrit :

kitznegari blah-blah-blah said:


People don't "bash" the Krooborg for
kicks; they do it because he incites them to it. The fact that you
see only the reaction and not the instigations tells me there's
something wrong with you.

the fact that you let some childish comments incite you says that there is
something wrong with *you*. if you "realize" what krooger is, why do you
respond to him and encourage him to stick around?


As the saying goes on RAO, either you're lying or you're an idiot.

I *don't* respond to it. Rarely, anyway. Stupid much? ;-) As for
"encouraging" ****-for-Brains to "stick around", that's quite an
ingenuous notion. You really have no idea what the Krooborg is, how
sick and twisted it is, or why it traded what could have been a
normal-ish life with its wife and children for an online existence
in which it is abused and humiliated day after day.


LOL !
Middius just forgot to tell you that he is haunting the "Krooborg" on
usenet since so many years.
"He traded what could have been a normal-ish life with is boy-friend for
an online existence"... ;-)

Lionel a écrit :

George M. Middius a écrit :


kitznegari blah-blah-blah said:


People don't "bash" the Krooborg for
kicks; they do it because he incites them to it. The fact that you
see only the reaction and not the instigations tells me there's
something wrong with you.


the fact that you let some childish comments incite you says that
there is
something wrong with *you*. if you "realize" what krooger is, why do
you
respond to him and encourage him to stick around?



As the saying goes on RAO, either you're lying or you're an idiot.

I *don't* respond to it. Rarely, anyway. Stupid much? ;-) As for
"encouraging" ****-for-Brains to "stick around", that's quite an
ingenuous notion. You really have no idea what the Krooborg is, how
sick and twisted it is, or why it traded what could have been a
normal-ish life with its wife and children for an online existence
in which it is abused and humiliated day after day.


LOL !
Middius just forgot to tell you that he is haunting the "Krooborg" on
usenet since so many years.
"He traded what could have been a normal-ish life with *his* boy-friend for
an online existence"... ;-)

BTW, Usenet etiquette requires you to quote the person to whose post
you're responding. Ignorant much? ;-)

not really. i just don't give a **** about your ****ty little newsgroup. why
should i care if you like my "etiquette" or not?

- k i t z -
i will take you to the oracle, but first i must aporogize.
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com

****negari said:

BTW, Usenet etiquette requires you to quote the person to whose post
you're responding. Ignorant much? ;-)

not really. i just don't give a **** about your ****ty little newsgroup. why
should i care if you like my "etiquette" or not?

Oh, right. That explains why you're posting here.

"George M. Middius" wrote in message
...


kitznegari blah-blah-blah said:

People don't "bash" the Krooborg for
kicks; they do it because he incites them to it. The fact that you
see only the reaction and not the instigations tells me there's
something wrong with you.

the fact that you let some childish comments incite you says that there
is
something wrong with *you*. if you "realize" what krooger is, why do
you
respond to him and encourage him to stick around?

As the saying goes on RAO, either you're lying or you're an idiot.


That's why he is not as bad as Krueger. Krueger is a lying idiot.




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"kitznegari thinks it has wings" wrote in message
...
People don't "bash" the Krooborg for
kicks; they do it because he incites them to it. The fact that you
see only the reaction and not the instigations tells me there's
something wrong with you.

the fact that you let some childish comments incite you says that there is
something wrong with *you*. if you "realize" what krooger is, why do you
respond to him and encourage him to stick around?

- k i t z -

Because he's worse than what he hates.

i will take you to the oracle, but first i must aporogize.
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com

"tµÞêgü¥" said:

Yep, the same 6ca7's are stilll making me happy. I owe it all to my
isolation transformer and my aging ears.

Try KT66s one time, you will never go back to 6CA7s :-)

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"tµÞêgü¥" said:

Yep, the same 6ca7's are stilll making me happy. I owe it all to my
isolation transformer and my aging ears.

Try KT66s one time, you will never go back to 6CA7s :-)

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

Well, the 6CA7 is generally equivalent to the EL34
while the KT66 is generally equivalent to the 6L6




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"Sockpuppet Yustabe" said:

Well, the 6CA7 is generally equivalent to the EL34
while the KT66 is generally equivalent to the 6L6

While that's undoubtedly true, the sweetness of a pair of KT66s
(especially in triode!) can't be beaten by any other tube.
Just my humble opinion, of course.
You're right in that they're not directly interchangeable.

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" said:

Well, the 6CA7 is generally equivalent to the EL34
while the KT66 is generally equivalent to the 6L6

While that's undoubtedly true, the sweetness of a pair of KT66s
(especially in triode!) can't be beaten by any other tube.
Just my humble opinion, of course.
You're right in that they're not directly interchangeable.

--

Yes I have a quad of clear Gold Lions and 3 Genelex.
Believe it or not, the Chinese KT66 is up there with them,
like one inch from the top of the mountain.
They are and have been used in a pair of Radio Craftsman 500A
monoblocks, my main amps.




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