Foresseeably Scottie is ready to keep
going on and on with his kind of argument:
1) "You're lying that Sean Olive's
article shows that "Is it different?" is
the wrong question to ask-(the right one being:
"Which one do you like better?")
2) I give numerous quotes to the effect that
was exactly what his conclusions were.
3) "Ah, but this is not why he didn't use
ABX"
4) We can now embark on the endless topic
of ABX.
5) 0.14 db difference is beyond the
hearing ability of most humans. Greenhil
allowed it because he felt it
did not invalidate his project.
He did not set out in the pop "Stereo Review"
on a research projectto define the limits of
audibility. He wanted to decide if one kind of
cable is better than another for consumer use
6) "Ah but 3 out of 11 panelists heard it
with pink noise".
&) The topic is now diverted into: What
exactly did Greenhill know or did not know,the
proper use of statistics and so on and on and
on. Nothing of audio consumer interest.
But what else is new? Looking through
Scotties activities in RAO all one sees is
endless nit-picking designed to show that
Scottie can win verbal dodges.

I said Scottie was a sea-lawyer. On second

thoughts I'll go further: he is a lawyer. Or more
likely, considering his intellectual level, a
paralegal looking for verbal loopholes for his
ambulance chasing boss. In any case he's not in
any profession where argument is settled by
experimental evidence. He does not even have
an inkling of what THAT is all about.
I repeat: he should stick
to politics. There if you can't shout louder you
can at leat bore your opponent and your audience
into semiconscioussness. He achieved that with
me.
He can go on all by himself as Tallulah Bankhead
said to a suitor when she was late for a bedroom
date.
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wrote:
I ScottW apparently intends to go on with a typical RAO
pseudodiscussion of "Who will build the strawmen fastest"
I see little point in going on toe -to-toe with someone who:
1)quotes his own ability to hear a difference of 1(one) decibel-
well within the limit of audibility for most people- as evidence that
0.16 of a db. (zero, one sixth) difference could be heard too. If the
cables were audibly different by volume then everybody not just 3 out
of 11 panelists would hear it and Monster would be a winner. By 0.16 of
a decibel!


Very interesting that you now claim everyone must have the same hearing

acuity.


To push this idiocy further Scottie says that recognition of
volume difference was Greenhill's PURPOSE- he knew about it.


Anothter blatan lie. I said no such thing.
All I said was that it was one outcome, probably not expected.


And his
foolish readers thought it was all about: "Is one cable better than the
other"

2) Refers me to Greenhill for an answer as to why he would
bother to make such a pointless joke of a "research". He does not tell
what Greenhill would say in response to such an idiot question.
Obviously Greenhill designed his research with the idea of
getting a sensible result. And on the evidence he knows infinitely more
about research and research statistics than our Scottie.
3) He denies that S.Olive's research showed that people perform
better when asked "Which one you prefer? rather than "Are they
different from each other"? Over that wording interpretation difference
he had the brass to call me a liar



deLudo... please quit claiming things I never said.


When I quote S. Olive's unequivocal figures and conclusions
he clumsily attempts to divert the argument into pro or against ABX-
typical strawman building.


Wasn't that your argument from the beginning. Thats what I was
saying,
that Olives work isn't relevant to a discussion of ABX.

Nice to see you finally agree with me.



Yes. Olive does not denounce ABX. He just
did not use it. And his results explain why. With ABX his listeners
Performance in discriminating would be even worse.


Conclusion not supported at all by the available data.

deLudo.... if you wanted to know peoples preference among 4 speakers,
please design a test protocol using ABX that would identify peoples
preference. Perhaps you will finally see why Olive chose not to use
ABX
and you could stop making crap up.


ScottW