any recommendations for unobtrusive or hidden or flat-panel speakers
that are of decent quality in the $300-$400 per pair price range?

thanks

flacco wrote:


any recommendations for unobtrusive or hidden or flat-panel speakers
that are of decent quality in the $300-$400 per pair price range?

Magnepan MMG. $550. Other than that, there's virtually nothing
that sounds good.

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 20:18:13 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
wrote:

flacco wrote:


any recommendations for unobtrusive or hidden or flat-panel speakers
that are of decent quality in the $300-$400 per pair price range?

Magnepan MMG. $550. Other than that, there's virtually nothing
that sounds good.

Right except that these flat-panel speakers need to be somewhat out
into the room and not flat against the walls.

Kal

Kalman Rubinson wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 20:18:13 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
wrote:


flacco wrote:


any recommendations for unobtrusive or hidden or flat-panel speakers
that are of decent quality in the $300-$400 per pair price range?

Magnepan MMG. $550. Other than that, there's virtually nothing
that sounds good.


Right except that these flat-panel speakers need to be somewhat out
into the room and not flat against the walls.

Not true. You can mount them like acoustic wall panels a few inches
off of the walls on dowels or rods. The sound isn't as good, but even
in that configuration it stomps on flat panel and in-wall speakers.

In fact, they have a picture of just such a setup in on the Magenpan
website.

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 02:27:44 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
wrote:

Kalman Rubinson wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 20:18:13 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
wrote:


flacco wrote:


any recommendations for unobtrusive or hidden or flat-panel speakers
that are of decent quality in the $300-$400 per pair price range?

Magnepan MMG. $550. Other than that, there's virtually nothing
that sounds good.


Right except that these flat-panel speakers need to be somewhat out
into the room and not flat against the walls.

Not true. You can mount them like acoustic wall panels a few inches
off of the walls on dowels or rods. The sound isn't as good, but even
in that configuration it stomps on flat panel and in-wall speakers.

In fact, they have a picture of just such a setup in on the Magenpan
website.

When mounted that way, their advantage over a wall mounted box
diminishes considerably. They then have no bass and the bass from a
decent little box, imho, is more useful than the slightly greater
transparency of the Maggie. Used right, it's another story.

Kal

Kalman Rubinson wrote:

Not true. You can mount them like acoustic wall panels a few inches
off of the walls on dowels or rods. The sound isn't as good, but even
in that configuration it stomps on flat panel and in-wall speakers.

In fact, they have a picture of just such a setup in on the Magenpan
website.


When mounted that way, their advantage over a wall mounted box
diminishes considerably. They then have no bass and the bass from a
decent little box, imho, is more useful than the slightly greater
transparency of the Maggie. Used right, it's another story.

True, but they ARE unobtrusive. Since the MMGs don't really do
bass any more than the flat panel speakers, in actual use, the
MMGs sound fine mounted a few inches off the wall. The farther out
you mount them the better - 4-6 inches seems to work well.

I'd not try this with the larger Magnepans, but for the MMG, wall-mounting
works.

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 19:43:31 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
wrote:

Kalman Rubinson wrote:

Not true. You can mount them like acoustic wall panels a few inches
off of the walls on dowels or rods. The sound isn't as good, but even
in that configuration it stomps on flat panel and in-wall speakers.

In fact, they have a picture of just such a setup in on the Magenpan
website.


When mounted that way, their advantage over a wall mounted box
diminishes considerably. They then have no bass and the bass from a
decent little box, imho, is more useful than the slightly greater
transparency of the Maggie. Used right, it's another story.

True, but they ARE unobtrusive. Since the MMGs don't really do
bass any more than the flat panel speakers, in actual use, the
MMGs sound fine mounted a few inches off the wall. The farther out
you mount them the better - 4-6 inches seems to work well.

I'd not try this with the larger Magnepans, but for the MMG, wall-mounting
works.

If one can forego real deep bass, the pivot-mounted MGMC1s are a good
choice. They can be put flush to the wall when not in use and angled
out for listening. Get down to about 80Hz.

Kal

Kalman Rubinson wrote:



On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 19:43:31 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
wrote:

Kalman Rubinson wrote:

Not true. You can mount them like acoustic wall panels a few inches
off of the walls on dowels or rods. The sound isn't as good, but even
in that configuration it stomps on flat panel and in-wall speakers.

In fact, they have a picture of just such a setup in on the Magenpan
website.


When mounted that way, their advantage over a wall mounted box
diminishes considerably. They then have no bass and the bass from a
decent little box, imho, is more useful than the slightly greater
transparency of the Maggie. Used right, it's another story.

True, but they ARE unobtrusive. Since the MMGs don't really do
bass any more than the flat panel speakers, in actual use, the
MMGs sound fine mounted a few inches off the wall. The farther out
you mount them the better - 4-6 inches seems to work well.

I'd not try this with the larger Magnepans, but for the MMG, wall-mounting
works.

If one can forego real deep bass, the pivot-mounted MGMC1s are a good
choice. They can be put flush to the wall when not in use and angled
out for listening. Get down to about 80Hz.

Kal

80 Hz? Only if you consider maximun SPL @ 72 dB SPL ( +10% distortion)
"getting down to."

Nousaine wrote:


80 Hz? Only if you consider maximun SPL @ 72 dB SPL ( +10% distortion)
"getting down to."

Which is why the MMGs are a better speaker for this application.

All you really need is a few inches off the wall - maybe 4-6 to get
very good sound.