The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these sorts
of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


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Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


--
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www.rageaudio.com.au


Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

Some other Republican congressmans wife also was asked to leave for
wearing and I support the troops T-shirt. Back in the Clinton era
people were asked to leave the gallery for provocative T-shirts.
Nothing new here. Theres long been a dress code enforced for SotU
speeches. Trevor, you might want to find a more in-depth news source
than MTV.

ScottW

Trevor Wilson wrote:
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these sorts
of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true

What of these sheenanigans?

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx...fx2490632.html


ScottW

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oups.com...

Trevor Wilson wrote:
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys should
be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts
of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true

What of these sheenanigans?

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx...fx2490632.html

**What does this have to do with the US First Amendment?


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wrote in message
nk.net...

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys should
be both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


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Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.

**Don't I? Please feel free to point out my error/s.

This is not about the 1st Amendment.

**Oh really? Why was she taken away in handcuffs? Why was she charged with
an offence?

No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.

**Really? Please cite the part of the US Constitution where it states that
wearing a T-shirt with a specific message on it is illegal.

If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would have been the same.

**Wanna bet?

No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers while State of the Union addresses were being given.

**Yeah, sure. She was removed, placed in handcuffs and charged, because she
was making a statement which the Bush cabal was seriously embarrassed by.
Nothing more.


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wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys should
be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

Some other Republican congressmans wife also was asked to leave for
wearing and I support the troops T-shirt. Back in the Clinton era
people were asked to leave the gallery for provocative T-shirts.
Nothing new here. Theres long been a dress code enforced for SotU
speeches. Trevor, you might want to find a more in-depth news source
than MTV.

**OK, then, Mr genius, supply a more accurate story from another source.
I'll wait.


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www.rageaudio.com.au

In article ,
"Trevor Wilson" wrote:

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...

Trevor Wilson wrote:
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys should
be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts
of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...?headlines=tru
e

What of these sheenanigans?

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx...fx2490632.html

**What does this have to do with the US First Amendment?

If Denmark were the USA, the cartoon would be protected speech as well
as an offensive poke at a religious group.

Oh, the capitol cops apologized for removing Sheehan. A congressman's
wife wearing a "Support the Troops" tee was also removed.

Stephen

In article ,
"Trevor Wilson" wrote:

If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would have been the same.

**Wanna bet?

That's a tough one: a woman wearing a "Support the Troops" tee *was*
removed, but the cops told her her shirt was an anti-war protest. A
push...

And nyob's reference to "unfurl" shows he gets his news exclusively from
Fox, the only organization that can't tell a banner from a tee shirt.

Stephen

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Trevor Wilson" wrote:

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...

Trevor Wilson wrote:
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should
be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts
of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...?headlines=tru
e

What of these sheenanigans?

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx...fx2490632.html

**What does this have to do with the US First Amendment?

If Denmark were the USA, the cartoon would be protected speech as well
as an offensive poke at a religious group.

Oh, the capitol cops apologized for removing Sheehan. A congressman's
wife wearing a "Support the Troops" tee was also removed.

**But, significantly, NOT placed in handcuffs, nor charged. The whole thing
stinks. US citizens should be demanding changes. Upholding the First
Amendment, would be a good start. Moreover, Sheehan, of all people, has
every right to make a statement.


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www.rageaudio.com.au

wrote in message
nk.net...

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys should
be both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


--
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www.rageaudio.com.au


Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers while State of the Union addresses were being given.


That is true. Also, last night, the wife of
a powerful Republican Congressman was removed for
wearing a shirt with the "Support Our Troops" message.
However, she was not arrested.
It was probably wise to get Cindy out of the building
ASAP. our House of Representatives is not
at all an appropriate place for citizen protest. I believe that
iin the 50's there was an event in the same hall, where
Puerto Rican nationalists started shooting at people.
But it might have been in the Senate rather than the House.



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Trevor Wilson wrote:
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys should
be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts
of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true

What of these sheenanigans?

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx...fx2490632.html


HORRORS!!!!!!!
a Hyundai add and a talking ad for Fisher Investments.
We can't have that in Congress!



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In article ,
"Trevor Wilson" wrote:

If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would have been the same.

**Wanna bet?

That's a tough one: a woman wearing a "Support the Troops" tee *was*
removed, but the cops told her her shirt was an anti-war protest. A
push...

And nyob's reference to "unfurl" shows he gets his news exclusively from
Fox, the only organization that can't tell a banner from a tee shirt.



I, for one, am very thankful Cindy didn't unfurl it.



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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Trevor Wilson" wrote:

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...

Trevor Wilson wrote:
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should
be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts
of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...?headlines=tru
e

What of these sheenanigans?

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx...fx2490632.html

**What does this have to do with the US First Amendment?

If Denmark were the USA, the cartoon would be protected speech as well
as an offensive poke at a religious group.

Oh, the capitol cops apologized for removing Sheehan. A congressman's
wife wearing a "Support the Troops" tee was also removed.

**But, significantly, NOT placed in handcuffs, nor charged. The whole
thing stinks. US citizens should be demanding changes. Upholding the First
Amendment, would be a good start. Moreover, Sheehan, of all people, has
every right to make a statement.


Not there.
If she did, 280 million other Americans would have the same right, and
business
would never get done.
Does she also have the right to barge into the oval office?



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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
.. .

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Trevor Wilson" wrote:

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...

Trevor Wilson wrote:
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should
be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in
these
sorts
of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...?headlines=tru
e

What of these sheenanigans?

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx...fx2490632.html

**What does this have to do with the US First Amendment?

If Denmark were the USA, the cartoon would be protected speech as well
as an offensive poke at a religious group.

Oh, the capitol cops apologized for removing Sheehan. A congressman's
wife wearing a "Support the Troops" tee was also removed.

**But, significantly, NOT placed in handcuffs, nor charged. The whole
thing stinks. US citizens should be demanding changes. Upholding the
First Amendment, would be a good start. Moreover, Sheehan, of all people,
has every right to make a statement.


Not there.

**Yes, there.

If she did, 280 million other Americans would have the same right, and
business
would never get done.

**She was an invited guest.

Does she also have the right to barge into the oval office?

**IMO, EVERYONE has the right to arrange a personal appointment with the
President. Why, for instance, does Bill Gates, amongst others, have
relatively easy access to the President, yet people who have made huge
sacrifices (for Bush's oil buddies) have no access?


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www.rageaudio.com.au

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys should
be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

Some other Republican congressmans wife also was asked to leave for
wearing and I support the troops T-shirt. Back in the Clinton era
people were asked to leave the gallery for provocative T-shirts.
Nothing new here. Theres long been a dress code enforced for SotU
speeches. Trevor, you might want to find a more in-depth news source
than MTV.

**Here are Sheehan's own words about this whole, disgusting abrogation of
the basic rights of US citizens:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020106Z.shtml


--
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www.rageaudio.com.au

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
.. .

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Trevor Wilson" wrote:

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...

Trevor Wilson wrote:
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should
be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in
these
sorts
of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...?headlines=tru
e

What of these sheenanigans?

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx...fx2490632.html

**What does this have to do with the US First Amendment?

If Denmark were the USA, the cartoon would be protected speech as well
as an offensive poke at a religious group.

Oh, the capitol cops apologized for removing Sheehan. A congressman's
wife wearing a "Support the Troops" tee was also removed.

**But, significantly, NOT placed in handcuffs, nor charged. The whole
thing stinks. US citizens should be demanding changes. Upholding the
First Amendment, would be a good start. Moreover, Sheehan, of all
people, has every right to make a statement.


Not there.

**Yes, there.

Nope, there is good reason. It would be America's
foremost soapbox if protests were allowed.
you would also have antiabortion
protesters desecrating the business of Congress.



If she did, 280 million other Americans would have the same right, and
business
would never get done.

**She was an invited guest.

and she has to abide by the rules all other guest must follow.
She was not invited to protest or to make a statement.



Does she also have the right to barge into the oval office?

**IMO, EVERYONE has the right to arrange a personal appointment with the
President. Why, for instance, does Bill Gates, amongst others, have
relatively easy access to the President, yet people who have made huge
sacrifices (for Bush's oil buddies) have no access?


ok, dedicating 50 hours per week to that task, each American
would have 1/7 of a second with The Chief.




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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

Some other Republican congressmans wife also was asked to leave for
wearing and I support the troops T-shirt. Back in the Clinton era
people were asked to leave the gallery for provocative T-shirts.
Nothing new here. Theres long been a dress code enforced for SotU
speeches. Trevor, you might want to find a more in-depth news source
than MTV.

**OK, then, Mr genius, supply a more accurate story from another source.
I'll wait.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1567217

But this is even better.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashts.htm

ScottW

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
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"ScottW" wrote in message
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wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

Some other Republican congressmans wife also was asked to leave for
wearing and I support the troops T-shirt. Back in the Clinton era
people were asked to leave the gallery for provocative T-shirts.
Nothing new here. Theres long been a dress code enforced for SotU
speeches. Trevor, you might want to find a more in-depth news source
than MTV.

**Here are Sheehan's own words about this whole, disgusting abrogation of
the basic rights of US citizens:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020106Z.shtml


I have no doubt that her ultimate intention was to make
a verbal protest during the speech.
There is no place for that, not against Bush, not against Clinton,
or not against any US President, no matter the policies
or behaviors being protested.



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**IMO, EVERYONE has the right to arrange a personal appointment with the
President.

Take a number.... You're gonna be something over 300 Million... Americans
first you see.

ScottW

Trevor.

What are the rules for the visitors gallery of the Australian Parliament?



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Trevor:

Her are the rules for visitors of the Australian Parlaiment"

NO PROTEST, and a DRESS CODE

from:

http://www.aph.gov.au/visitors/parliamentsecurity.htm



"Observing proceedings

If a visitor wishes to observe proceedings in either Chamber the Senate or
the House of Representatives - the visitor will be required to pass through
additional security screening before entering a public gallery.

PSS staff can examine the contents of any handbags before their bearer
enters the Chamber galleries as a condition of entry.

Mobile phones and cameras are not permitted in either Chamber. These must be
cloaked at the cloaking area in the central public gallery on the first
floor. Security staff will issue a receipt for any items cloaked. Cloaked
items may be claimed on production of the receipt.

The rules of conduct for the public galleries are displayed at entrances.
They are designed to allow proceedings to take place without disruption and
no protest activity of any kind may be carried out in the galleries.


Any breaches of the rules results in the person responsible being asked to
either remain silent, to leave or to be forcibly removed.

Certain dress rules also apply to the galleries of both Chambers. PSS staff
may refuse entry to persons whose dress does not comply with these rules. "



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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have
been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

Some other Republican congressmans wife also was asked to leave for
wearing and I support the troops T-shirt. Back in the Clinton era
people were asked to leave the gallery for provocative T-shirts.
Nothing new here. Theres long been a dress code enforced for SotU
speeches. Trevor, you might want to find a more in-depth news source
than MTV.

**Here are Sheehan's own words about this whole, disgusting abrogation of
the basic rights of US citizens:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020106Z.shtml


I have no doubt that her ultimate intention was to make
a verbal protest during the speech.

**"Intention" is not a crime.

There is no place for that, not against Bush, not against Clinton,
or not against any US President, no matter the policies
or behaviors being protested.

**She was wearing a T-shirt. Nothing more. She did not deserve to be
handcuffed, fingerprinted and detained for several hours.


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www.rageaudio.com.au

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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have
been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

Some other Republican congressmans wife also was asked to leave for
wearing and I support the troops T-shirt. Back in the Clinton era
people were asked to leave the gallery for provocative T-shirts.
Nothing new here. Theres long been a dress code enforced for SotU
speeches. Trevor, you might want to find a more in-depth news source
than MTV.

**OK, then, Mr genius, supply a more accurate story from another source.
I'll wait.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1567217


**Nope. Nothing new there. Care to try again?


But this is even better.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashts.htm

**Nope. MUCH worse. Hardly anything pertaining to Sheehan at all. A useless
resource. Something I've come to expect from you. All **** and wind, no
substance. I note your support of the destruction of the rights of US
citizens.


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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in
these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have
been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

Some other Republican congressmans wife also was asked to leave for
wearing and I support the troops T-shirt. Back in the Clinton era
people were asked to leave the gallery for provocative T-shirts.
Nothing new here. Theres long been a dress code enforced for SotU
speeches. Trevor, you might want to find a more in-depth news source
than MTV.

**Here are Sheehan's own words about this whole, disgusting abrogation
of the basic rights of US citizens:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020106Z.shtml


I have no doubt that her ultimate intention was to make
a verbal protest during the speech.

**"Intention" is not a crime.

There is no place for that, not against Bush, not against Clinton,
or not against any US President, no matter the policies
or behaviors being protested.

**She was wearing a T-shirt. Nothing more. She did not deserve to be
handcuffed, fingerprinted and detained for several hours.


She shouldn't have been detained after removal, as long as she
was led out of the building and instructed not to return.
I think she needed to be removed from the building, that is all.
The removal from the gallery and the detention are two different issues.
As long as she was hustled out of the Capitol building, that
all that was called for. The rest is an overreaction. Basically, she
didn't do anything criminal, it was limited to a violation of House rules.





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wrote:
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The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in
these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


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Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have
been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

Some other Republican congressmans wife also was asked to leave for
wearing and I support the troops T-shirt. Back in the Clinton era
people were asked to leave the gallery for provocative T-shirts.
Nothing new here. Theres long been a dress code enforced for SotU
speeches. Trevor, you might want to find a more in-depth news source
than MTV.

**OK, then, Mr genius, supply a more accurate story from another source.
I'll wait.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1567217


**Nope. Nothing new there. Care to try again?


But this is even better.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashts.htm

**Nope. MUCH worse. Hardly anything pertaining to Sheehan at all. A
useless resource. Something I've come to expect from you. All **** and
wind, no substance. I note your support of the destruction of the rights
of US citizens.



yes, our rights have no fallen to the level of those of the Australians.



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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
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"ScottW" wrote in message
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wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
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The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in
these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


--
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www.rageaudio.com.au


Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have
been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

Some other Republican congressmans wife also was asked to leave for
wearing and I support the troops T-shirt. Back in the Clinton era
people were asked to leave the gallery for provocative T-shirts.
Nothing new here. Theres long been a dress code enforced for SotU
speeches. Trevor, you might want to find a more in-depth news source
than MTV.

**OK, then, Mr genius, supply a more accurate story from another source.
I'll wait.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1567217


**Nope. Nothing new there. Care to try again?

It does report that Sheehan wasn't the only person removed
from the gallery last night.



But this is even better.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashts.htm

**Nope. MUCH worse. Hardly anything pertaining to Sheehan at all.

No ****... but it does point out that people have been removed from the
gallery
before under completely different administrations... so your anti-Bush
raging..is just that.


A useless resource. Something I've come to expect from you. All **** and
wind,

pointed in your direction... now stop liking it.

ScottW

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You've got your own problems to worry about.... leave Cindy to us .

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10366456


ScottW

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2...h-kfi-los.html

ScottW

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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...
The First Amendment is now dead and buried in the USSA. You guys
should be
both afraid and ashamed of allowing the Bush cabal to engage in
these
sorts of shenanigans.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/152...headlines=true


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Sorry Trevor, but you don't know what you are talking about.
This is not about the 1st Amendment.
No one is allowed to do anything like what she tried to do.
If it had been a pro bush banner she was trying to unfurl the results
would
have been the same.
No such behavior is allowed in the Senate, by anybody. People have
been
removed in the past for chewing gum and reading books in the Senate
chambers
while State of the Union addresses were being given.

Some other Republican congressmans wife also was asked to leave for
wearing and I support the troops T-shirt. Back in the Clinton era
people were asked to leave the gallery for provocative T-shirts.
Nothing new here. Theres long been a dress code enforced for SotU
speeches. Trevor, you might want to find a more in-depth news source
than MTV.

**OK, then, Mr genius, supply a more accurate story from another
source. I'll wait.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1567217


**Nope. Nothing new there. Care to try again?

It does report that Sheehan wasn't the only person removed
from the gallery last night.

**Was Sheehan the only one arrested, handcuffed, fingerprinted and detained?
Can you see a difference? Do you understand yet? Do you understand why SOME
Americans are treated differently, just because they have something to say,
which some people don't like? Do you understand what the First Amendment is
supposed to guarantee?




But this is even better.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashts.htm

**Nope. MUCH worse. Hardly anything pertaining to Sheehan at all.

No ****... but it does point out that people have been removed from the
gallery
before under completely different administrations... so your anti-Bush
raging..is just that.

**Again, no relevant.


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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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Trevor:

Her are the rules for visitors of the Australian Parlaiment"

NO PROTEST, and a DRESS CODE

from:

http://www.aph.gov.au/visitors/parliamentsecurity.htm


**Which is relevant to the US First Amendment, how?


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You've got your own problems to worry about.... leave Cindy to us .

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10366456


**And this relates to the problems of the US First Amendment, how?

BTW: I hope that EVERYONE who is dirty is subject to the full force of the
law. That includes Dubya, of course, since he lied to the US population,
leading to the deaths of more than 2,000 US service people, during his dirty
little war.


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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
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It does report that Sheehan wasn't the only person removed
from the gallery last night.

**Was Sheehan the only one arrested, handcuffed, fingerprinted and
detained?

OMG Cindy lost 4 hours... It's a travesty I tell you. But what about the
poor cop who had to mugshot her ugly mug? What about his rights?

Can you see a difference? Do you understand yet? Do you understand why
SOME Americans are treated differently, just because they have something
to say, which some people don't like? Do you understand what the First
Amendment is supposed to guarantee?

I think it should guarantee my rights... but it shouldn't do squat for you.





But this is even better.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashts.htm

**Nope. MUCH worse. Hardly anything pertaining to Sheehan at all.

No ****... but it does point out that people have been removed from the
gallery
before under completely different administrations... so your anti-Bush
raging..is just that.

**Again, no relevant.

The Bush myopia is revealed... Clinton can do it... Bush can't.

ScottW

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You've got your own problems to worry about.... leave Cindy to us .

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10366456


**And this relates to the problems of the US First Amendment, how?

BTW: I hope that EVERYONE who is dirty is subject to the full force of the
law.

Why only the dirty?

That includes Dubya, of course, since he lied to the US population, leading
to the deaths of more than 2,000 US service people, during his dirty little
war.

I think all Australians should be incarcerated for their part in the
corruption of the Grain Board and kickbacks to Saddam.

ScottW


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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
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"ScottW" wrote in message
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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
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You've got your own problems to worry about.... leave Cindy to us .

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10366456


**And this relates to the problems of the US First Amendment, how?

BTW: I hope that EVERYONE who is dirty is subject to the full force of
the law.

Why only the dirty?

**Dirty = guilty.


That includes Dubya, of course, since he lied to the US population,
leading to the deaths of more than 2,000 US service people, during his
dirty little war.

I think all Australians should be incarcerated for their part in the
corruption of the Grain Board and kickbacks to Saddam.

**Why? Only the guilty should be punished. In fact, only those who voted for
Dubya should be required to go fight his disgusting little war. Now that is
a good idea, don't you think? If those who voted for Dubya had to go and
fight, would that have caused them to alter their vote?


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I think all Australians should be incarcerated for their part in the
corruption of the Grain Board and kickbacks to Saddam.

**Why? Only the guilty should be punished.

Obviously that's all Australians as they all benefit in some way from the
Grain board.

In fact, only those who voted for Dubya should be required to go fight his
disgusting little war. Now that is a good idea, don't you think?

Sure... I always wanted an ATL to play with.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/story.p...25-1485421.php


If those who voted for Dubya had to go and fight, would that have caused
them to alter their vote?

Nah... we'd just push the button.

ScottW

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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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Trevor:

Her are the rules for visitors of the Australian Parlaiment"

NO PROTEST, and a DRESS CODE

from:

http://www.aph.gov.au/visitors/parliamentsecurity.htm


**Which is relevant to the US First Amendment, how?


"At least" we have one



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I think all Australians should be incarcerated ,,,,,,,,



The whole damn country?
I mean, maybe that's going just a little bit too far.couldn't some of them
get work release?



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**Why? Only the guilty should be punished. In fact, only those who voted
for Dubya should be required to go fight his disgusting little war. Now
that is a good idea, don't you think? If those who voted for Dubya had to
go and fight, would that have caused them to alter their vote?


And we should make terrorists kill those who only voted for Kerry.



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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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Trevor:

Her are the rules for visitors of the Australian Parlaiment"

NO PROTEST, and a DRESS CODE

from:

http://www.aph.gov.au/visitors/parliamentsecurity.htm


**Which is relevant to the US First Amendment, how?


"At least" we have one

**Apparently Ms Sheehan does not.


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