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This guys says he hears a difference, so it must be true...
The basic concept:
http://www.dhtrob.com/projecten/homeprojectselna1.htm A user report: http://www.dhtrob.com/impressies/hom...lna_inwood.htm |
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toaster ovens
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news  The basic concept: http://www.dhtrob.com/projecten/homeprojectselna1.htm A user report: http://www.dhtrob.com/impressies/hom...lna_inwood.htm Arny, Taken by itself, this ludicrous mod supports your position regarding sighted testing of equipment. However, you use notions such as these to discourage the individual who, lacking any outside resources, wishes to conduct sighted tests to choose components for personal use, or wishes to communicate observations based on sighted testing to other individuals. The valid middle ground is difficult for ideologues like "dhtrob", or you, to comprehend. It is certainly true that sighted testing can, and does in some instances lead to perception of differences when there are none. It is also true that many listeners can, as a practical matter, discern differences that are important to them. If the cost of exterminating imaginary perceptions is to make unavailable a large body of informal, anecdotal comparative knowledge, then the cure is not worth the treatment. As most of us are aware of your unquenchable drive to exterminate the sighted personal experience, and don't like it, we suggest you turn your attention to testing toaster ovens. There is little information on the thermodynamic efficiency of these appliances, and countless megawatts of electricity are wasted each year by users who based their buy on sighted comparisons of the chrome plating. Should you apply your gifts to this neglected subject, it would be a great boon to mankind. |
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toaster ovens
Robert Morein wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news The basic concept: http://www.dhtrob.com/projecten/homeprojectselna1.htm A user report: http://www.dhtrob.com/impressies/hom...lna_inwood.htm Arny, Taken by itself, this ludicrous mod supports your position regarding sighted testing of equipment. However, you use notions such as these to discourage the individual who, lacking any outside resources, wishes to conduct sighted tests to choose components for personal use, or wishes to communicate observations based on sighted testing to other individuals. The valid middle ground is difficult for ideologues like "dhtrob", or you, to comprehend. It is certainly true that sighted testing can, and does in some instances lead to perception of differences when there are none. It is also true that many listeners can, as a practical matter, discern differences that are important to them. If the cost of exterminating imaginary perceptions is to make unavailable a large body of informal, anecdotal comparative knowledge, then the cure is not worth the treatment. As most of us are aware of your unquenchable drive to exterminate the sighted personal experience, and don't like it, we suggest you turn your attention to testing toaster ovens. There is little information on the thermodynamic efficiency of these appliances, and countless megawatts of electricity are wasted each year by users who based their buy on sighted comparisons of the chrome plating. Should you apply your gifts to this neglected subject, it would be a great boon to mankind. A fertile area for empirical research. And one that might even lend itself to double blind tests re. the toast, muffins, and various frozen foods processed behind those masking curtains. Of course, elapsed time from test inception to tasting time might have to be equalized to prevent that nasty bugaboo of all subjective testing, expectation effects, from rearing its ugly head. And if this research yields significant intramodel or intrabrand differences, I would like to suggest another research area no doubt perfect for his unique investigatory skills - toilets. Such variables as flushing efficiency, comfort, $ 1000 bill wiping effects, and no doubt other variables known only to him, are sorely in need of scientific investiagation. Bruce J. Richman |
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toaster ovens
"Robert Morein" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news The basic concept: http://www.dhtrob.com/projecten/homeprojectselna1.htm A user report: http://www.dhtrob.com/impressies/hom...lna_inwood.htm Taken by itself, this ludicrous mod supports your position regarding sighted testing of equipment. It doesn't have to be taken by itself. There are zillions of examples of it on the web and elsewhere. However, you use notions such as these to discourage the individual who, lacking any outside resources, wishes to conduct sighted tests to choose components for personal use, or wishes to communicate observations based on sighted testing to other individuals. What's unclear about the fact that some audio gear sounds different and some doesn't, but sighted evaluations all by themselves don't provide a reliable means to determine which is which? The valid middle ground is difficult for ideologues like "dhtrob", or you, to comprehend. I'm aware of the fact that many radicals confuse their marginal thinking with that of some presumed middle-of-the-road viewpoint. Furthermore, this isn't about political opinion, it's about a physical hypothesis that can be reliably tested. It is certainly true that sighted testing can, and does in some instances lead to perception of differences when there are none. So far so good. It is also true that many listeners can, as a practical matter, discern differences that are important to them. Not a problem as long as these alleged differences reliably exist. If the cost of exterminating imaginary perceptions is to make unavailable a large body of informal, anecdotal comparative knowledge, then the cure is not worth the treatment. IOW, if imaginary perceptions are a big problem, nothing should be done about them. This is crazy. As most of us are aware of your unquenchable drive to exterminate the sighted personal experience, and don't like it, we suggest you turn your attention to testing toaster ovens. Here, Morein presumes to speak for the majority of audiophilia. No small ego, his. There is little information on the thermodynamic efficiency of these appliances, and countless megawatts of electricity are wasted each year by users who based their buy on sighted comparisons of the chrome plating. Should you apply your gifts to this neglected subject, it would be a great boon to mankind. Another nonsense post from Morein. |
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toaster ovens
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news The basic concept: http://www.dhtrob.com/projecten/homeprojectselna1.htm A user report: http://www.dhtrob.com/impressies/hom...lna_inwood.htm Taken by itself, this ludicrous mod supports your position regarding sighted testing of equipment. It doesn't have to be taken by itself. There are zillions of examples of it on the web and elsewhere. However, you use notions such as these to discourage the individual who, lacking any outside resources, wishes to conduct sighted tests to choose components for personal use, or wishes to communicate observations based on sighted testing to other individuals. What's unclear about the fact that some audio gear sounds different and some doesn't, but sighted evaluations all by themselves don't provide a reliable means to determine which is which? The valid middle ground is difficult for ideologues like "dhtrob", or you, to comprehend. I'm aware of the fact that many radicals confuse their marginal thinking with that of some presumed middle-of-the-road viewpoint. Furthermore, this isn't about political opinion, it's about a physical hypothesis that can be reliably tested. It is certainly true that sighted testing can, and does in some instances lead to perception of differences when there are none. So far so good. It is also true that many listeners can, as a practical matter, discern differences that are important to them. Not a problem as long as these alleged differences reliably exist. If the cost of exterminating imaginary perceptions is to make unavailable a large body of informal, anecdotal comparative knowledge, then the cure is not worth the treatment. IOW, if imaginary perceptions are a big problem, nothing should be done about them. This is crazy. As most of us are aware of your unquenchable drive to exterminate the sighted personal experience, and don't like it, we suggest you turn your attention to testing toaster ovens. Here, Morein presumes to speak for the majority of audiophilia. No small ego, his. There is little information on the thermodynamic efficiency of these appliances, and countless megawatts of electricity are wasted each year by users who based their buy on sighted comparisons of the chrome plating. Should you apply your gifts to this neglected subject, it would be a great boon to mankind. Another nonsense post from Morein. I wouldn't dismiss it as nonsense. Dr. Richman has very kindly offered other possibilities that may be more within your realm of competence. |
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toaster ovens
"Robert Morein" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news
The basic concept:http://www.dhtrob.com/projecten/homeprojectselna1.htm A user report: http://www.dhtrob.com/impressies/hom...lna_inwood.htm Taken by itself, this ludicrous mod supports your position regarding sighted testing of equipment. It doesn't have to be taken by itself. There are zillions of examples of it on the web and elsewhere. However, you use notions such as these to discourage the individual who, lacking any outside resources, wishes to conduct sighted tests to choose components for personal use, or wishes to communicate observations based on sighted testing to other individuals. What's unclear about the fact that some audio gear sounds different and some doesn't, but sighted evaluations all by themselves don't provide a reliable means to determine which is which? The valid middle ground is difficult for ideologues like "dhtrob", or you, to comprehend. I'm aware of the fact that many radicals confuse their marginal thinking with that of some presumed middle-of-the-road viewpoint. Furthermore, this isn't about political opinion, it's about a physical hypothesis that can be reliably tested. It is certainly true that sighted testing can, and does in some instances lead to perception of differences when there are none. So far so good. It is also true that many listeners can, as a practical matter, discern differences that are important to them. Not a problem as long as these alleged differences reliably exist. If the cost of exterminating imaginary perceptions is to make unavailable a large body of informal, anecdotal comparative knowledge, then the cure is not worth the treatment. IOW, if imaginary perceptions are a big problem, nothing should be done about them. This is crazy. As most of us are aware of your unquenchable drive to exterminate the sighted personal experience, and don't like it, we suggest you turn your attention to testing toaster ovens. Here, Morein presumes to speak for the majority of audiophilia. No small ego, his. There is little information on the thermodynamic efficiency of these appliances, and countless megawatts of electricity are wasted each year by users who based their buy on sighted comparisons of the chrome plating. Should you apply your gifts to this neglected subject, it would be a great boon to mankind. Another nonsense post from Morein. I wouldn't dismiss it as nonsense. Of course not, after all you authored this nonsense, Morein! LOL! Dr. Richman has very kindly offered other possibilities that may be more within your realm of competence. I don't see any evidence that Richman is technically competent enough in the area of electrical engineering to judge what is or is not in my realm of competence. I presume that if he had any competence in the area of engineering he would announce it every three days on the average, as he has with his alleged credentials in the area of psychology. Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. BTW please feel free to do so at your earliest convenience... |
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The Dune Connection & Volts
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news
The basic concept:http://www.dhtrob.com/projecten/homeprojectselna1.htm A user report: http://www.dhtrob.com/impressies/hom...lna_inwood.htm Taken by itself, this ludicrous mod supports your position regarding sighted testing of equipment. It doesn't have to be taken by itself. There are zillions of examples of it on the web and elsewhere. However, you use notions such as these to discourage the individual who, lacking any outside resources, wishes to conduct sighted tests to choose components for personal use, or wishes to communicate observations based on sighted testing to other individuals. What's unclear about the fact that some audio gear sounds different and some doesn't, but sighted evaluations all by themselves don't provide a reliable means to determine which is which? The valid middle ground is difficult for ideologues like "dhtrob", or you, to comprehend. I'm aware of the fact that many radicals confuse their marginal thinking with that of some presumed middle-of-the-road viewpoint. Furthermore, this isn't about political opinion, it's about a physical hypothesis that can be reliably tested. It is certainly true that sighted testing can, and does in some instances lead to perception of differences when there are none. So far so good. It is also true that many listeners can, as a practical matter, discern differences that are important to them. Not a problem as long as these alleged differences reliably exist. If the cost of exterminating imaginary perceptions is to make unavailable a large body of informal, anecdotal comparative knowledge, then the cure is not worth the treatment. IOW, if imaginary perceptions are a big problem, nothing should be done about them. This is crazy. As most of us are aware of your unquenchable drive to exterminate the sighted personal experience, and don't like it, we suggest you turn your attention to testing toaster ovens. Here, Morein presumes to speak for the majority of audiophilia. No small ego, his. There is little information on the thermodynamic efficiency of these appliances, and countless megawatts of electricity are wasted each year by users who based their buy on sighted comparisons of the chrome plating. Should you apply your gifts to this neglected subject, it would be a great boon to mankind. Another nonsense post from Morein. I wouldn't dismiss it as nonsense. Of course not, after all you authored this nonsense, Morein! LOL! Dr. Richman has very kindly offered other possibilities that may be more within your realm of competence. I don't see any evidence that Richman is technically competent enough in the area of electrical engineering to judge what is or is not in my realm of competence. I presume that if he had any competence in the area of engineering he would announce it every three days on the average, as he has with his alleged credentials in the area of psychology. Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. BTW please feel free to do so at your earliest convenience... I'll be please to do so now: An "ohm" is the mantric chant of Arny Krueger's religion. Pronounced rhythmically, it is intended to stun it's victims into silence. In Arny Krueger's religion, a "volt" is the unit of personal power. It is the desire of all adherents to acquire as many volts as possible, by shocking the public with revelations of "truth." "Truth", according to Arny Krueger's religion, consists of a single tenet: that Arny Krueger is the sole and exclusive purveyor of "truthful" information. Unfortunately, Krueger's religion is self referential, failing to escape Godel's Incompleteness Theorem. Krueger's definition of "truth" is completely circular, as it is defined in terms of itself. |
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The Dune Connection & Volts
Robert Morein wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message news
The basic concept:http://www.dhtrob.com/projecten/homeprojectselna1.htm A user report: http://www.dhtrob.com/impressies/hom...lna_inwood.htm Taken by itself, this ludicrous mod supports your position regarding sighted testing of equipment. It doesn't have to be taken by itself. There are zillions of examples of it on the web and elsewhere. However, you use notions such as these to discourage the individual who, lacking any outside resources, wishes to conduct sighted tests to choose components for personal use, or wishes to communicate observations based on sighted testing to other individuals. What's unclear about the fact that some audio gear sounds different and some doesn't, but sighted evaluations all by themselves don't provide a reliable means to determine which is which? The valid middle ground is difficult for ideologues like "dhtrob", or you, to comprehend. I'm aware of the fact that many radicals confuse their marginal thinking with that of some presumed middle-of-the-road viewpoint. Furthermore, this isn't about political opinion, it's about a physical hypothesis that can be reliably tested. It is certainly true that sighted testing can, and does in some instances lead to perception of differences when there are none. So far so good. It is also true that many listeners can, as a practical matter, discern differences that are important to them. Not a problem as long as these alleged differences reliably exist. If the cost of exterminating imaginary perceptions is to make unavailable a large body of informal, anecdotal comparative knowledge, then the cure is not worth the treatment. IOW, if imaginary perceptions are a big problem, nothing should be done about them. This is crazy. As most of us are aware of your unquenchable drive to exterminate the sighted personal experience, and don't like it, we suggest you turn your attention to testing toaster ovens. Here, Morein presumes to speak for the majority of audiophilia. No small ego, his. The statement above is just another example of how Krueger tries to misrepresent what others have actually said through distortion of facts. The use of the phrase "most of us'" by Mr. Morein clearly refers to the audience of RAO readers, not as Krueger tries to invent the "majority of audophilia", whatever that nebulous phrase of his idiosyncratic imagination might or might not mean. For Krueger to assume that Mr. Morein was referring to any audiencx larger than that reading this NG, is of course just another example of "bad science". There is little information on the thermodynamic efficiency of these appliances, and countless megawatts of electricity are wasted each year by users who based their buy on sighted comparisons of the chrome plating. Should you apply your gifts to this neglected subject, it would be a great boon to mankind. Another nonsense post from Morein. I wouldn't dismiss it as nonsense. Of course not, after all you authored this nonsense, Morein! LOL! Dr. Richman has very kindly offered other possibilities that may be more within your realm of competence. I don't see any evidence that Richman is technically competent enough in the area of electrical engineering to judge what is or is not in my realm of competence. I presume that if he had any competence in the area of engineering he would announce it every three days on the average, as he has with his alleged credentials in the area of psychology. Speaking of nonsense, Krueger, as his custom, treis to spread more lies about post content by insulting everybody's intelligence. It is absurdly easy to point out that Krueger, trying to lie with statistics as his custom, specifies no time range over which his soi-called "average" was taken. And of course, he also fails to have the intellectual honesty to engage in full disclosure, which would reveal major portions o time - months, if not years, in which this was never mentioned. He also fails to indicate the number of timies he has committed slander by claiming those credentials are questionable or nonexistent. He does so again in this post by use of the adjective, "alleged".. As has been pointed out many times in the past in reswponse to Krueger's numerous slanderous comments re. my background, there is nothing alleged about them, as others on RAO have very easily verified in the past. Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or llack of knowledge about various audio phenomena. In point of fact, his statement re. knowiing the difference between a volt and an ohm, as different units of electircal measurment, is absord. Knowledge of that difference has nothing to do, of course, with training or background in electrical engineering. For that matter the use of sound scientific methodology concerning comparative evaluation of 2 or more products in the same research experiment has little, if anything to do with electrical engineering per se. It has to do with experimental design, knowledge of statical analysis methods, and of course, the honesty to use them in an ethical way. Whether talking about his hallowed ABX protocols or his deceptive attempt to use statistics here, many of found him to be severely lacking. BTW please feel free to do so at your earliest convenience... I'll be please to do so now: An "ohm" is the mantric chant of Arny Krueger's religion. Pronounced rhythmically, it is intended to stun it's victims into silence. Actually, most psychologist know a lot about resistance. It is one of the central concepts in psychodynamic personality theory and psychodynamically-oriented therapy. We also know how to measure it, whether by analysis of an MMPI protocol, for example (which has an empirically derived scale designed specifically to measure this variable), or by carefuly evaluation of therapist/patient interactinos. In Arny Krueger's religion, a "volt" is the unit of personal power. It is the desire of all adherents to acquire as many volts as possible, by shocking the public with revelations of "truth." "Truth", according to Arny Krueger's religion, consists of a single tenet: that Arny Krueger is the sole and exclusive purveyor of "truthful" information. Unfortunately, Krueger's religion is self referential, failing to escape Godel's Incompleteness Theorem. Krueger's definition of "truth" is completely circular, as it is defined in terms of itself. Psychologist also know a lot about power and the delusional perceptions of same, which are frequently fround in a condition known as Narcissiistic Personality Disorder aw well as comingled with paranoia in many cases in which the person with a rigid character structure (or in layman's terms - a highly fixed, long-term, pervasive set of personality characteristics - or habitual behavior) exhibits frequent evidence of self-perceived omniscience and/or entitlement. Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D. Licensed Psychologist (signed this way, as usual, in response to repeated slanderous comments from Krueger - and also because the possible need to provide documentary evidence in support of Scott Wheeler's libel suit against Krueger). |
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The Dune Connection & Volts
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge about various audio phenomena. Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission that I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Point of order here - since Richman and Morein by their own admission, don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, how can either sensibly comment on the importance and relevance of this knowledge? Let me put it this way - think about all the audio products that are officially characterized in terms of ohms and volts. Every speaker, every power amplifier, every thing that operates on electrical power, every active and passive signal processor... the list is seemingly endless. Consider how nonsensical those characterizations are if you don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt! Consider how meaningful those characterizations are to persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Now compare and contrast the highly limited potential audio knowledge of Morein and Richman who admit they don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, with the vast potential for audio knowledge by persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. This critical admission also makes at least one of Morein's former claims into a lie. NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:41:33 -0600 From: "Robert Morein" Message-ID: "I've passed the prelim in both theoretical physics and electrical engineering," AFAIK this is difficult or impossible to do without knowing the difference between an ohm and a volt. knowing the difference between a volt and an ohm, as different units of electrical measurement, is absurd. Since you admit that don't know what that difference between an ohm and a volt is Richman, how can you claim to judge? This is typical of the arrogance and ignorance of Morein and Richman - they pretend to be qualified to judge that for which they lack the basic knowledge required to judge. They are like wannabe automotive engineers who don't know the difference between a foot and a pound. Or like chemists who don't know the difference between a gram and a mole. Or like a cook in the US who does not know the difference between a teaspoon and a degree. Or like a banker who does not know the difference between a percentage point and a dollar. The list is endless. Knowledge of that difference has nothing to do, of course, with training or background in electrical engineering. The sort of nonsense one hears from a person who never took electrical engineering course number one - which is BTW perfectly normal for persons with degrees in the liberal arts, especially psychology. Knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts is taught by freshman and physics classes, and required knowledge prior to entry of many courses that are at the core of any electrical engineering program. For example, per http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ug/brief-guide.html the departmental requirements for a BSEE program include the following courses: 6.002 Circuits and Electronics 6.003 Signals and Systems You can read what these courses entail at http://student.mit.edu/catalog/m6a.html Basically, they require knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. For that matter the use of sound scientific methodology concerning comparative evaluation of 2 or more products in the same research experiment has little, if anything to do with electrical engineering per se. I'm sure that this claim will have any number of actual electrical engineers rolling in the aisles. Since audio equipment is evaluated within the context of its specifications, and those specifications are given in terms of ohm, volts and a few other common engineering units of measure, it is impossible to properly evaluate audio gear without knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. It has to do with experimental design, knowledge of statistical analysis methods, and of course, the honesty to use them in an ethical way. It also has to do with operating the equipment within its specified parameters which are given in terms of ohm volts and a very few other common engineering measures. Whether talking about his hallowed ABX protocols or his deceptive attempt to use statistics here, many of found him to be severely lacking. Given that this many includes people like Morein and Richman, who have now admitted that they don't know the difference between ohms and volts, it is obviously an irrelevant criteria. |
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Arny Krueger=***BAD SCIENTIST***
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge about various audio phenomena. Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission that I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Definition of "tacit": Definition: [adj] indicated by necessary connotation though not expressed directly; "gave silent consent"; "a tacit agreement"; "the understood provisos of a custody agreement" It is clear that neither Dr. Richman nor I have given out consent, as required by the above definition. Simply another symptom of ***BAD SCIENCE*** from Arny Krueger's early onset dementia. Point of order here - since Richman and Morein by their own admission, don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, how can either sensibly comment on the importance and relevance of this knowledge? Once again, we do not "admit." Admission is a volitional act. Since we have not admitted what you claim, you are misinterpreting us to serve your twisted needs. Let me put it this way - think about all the audio products that are officially characterized in terms of ohms and volts. Every speaker, every power amplifier, every thing that operates on electrical power, every active and passive signal processor... the list is seemingly endless. Consider how nonsensical those characterizations are if you don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt! Once again, no admission on our part that we do not know the meaning of the above terms. Why do you insist on applying an interpretation of the words of others which does not conform to the intended meaning? Consider how meaningful those characterizations are to persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Now compare and contrast the highly limited potential audio knowledge of Morein and Richman who admit they don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, with the vast potential for audio knowledge by persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. The third statement by Krueger that we "admit" that we don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt. This critical admission also makes at least one of Morein's former claims into a lie. No admission is made. NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:41:33 -0600 From: "Robert Morein" Message-ID: "I've passed the prelim in both theoretical physics and electrical engineering," AFAIK this is difficult or impossible to do without knowing the difference between an ohm and a volt. Conclusion: Morein does know the difference between an ohm and a volt. knowing the difference between a volt and an ohm, as different units of electrical measurement, is absurd. Since you admit that don't know what that difference between an ohm and a volt is Richman, how can you claim to judge? This is typical of the arrogance and ignorance of Morein and Richman - they pretend to be qualified to judge that for which they lack the basic knowledge required to judge. They are like wannabe automotive engineers who don't know the difference between a foot and a pound. Or like chemists who don't know the difference between a gram and a mole. Or like a cook in the US who does not know the difference between a teaspoon and a degree. Or like a banker who does not know the difference between a percentage point and a dollar. The list is endless. Or an Arny Krueger who does not know the difference between a truth and a lie? Knowledge of that difference has nothing to do, of course, with training or background in electrical engineering. Of course not. The sort of nonsense one hears from a person who never took electrical engineering course number one - which is BTW perfectly normal for persons with degrees in the liberal arts, especially psychology. Knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts is taught by freshman and physics classes, and required knowledge prior to entry of many courses that are at the core of any electrical engineering program. For example, per http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ug/brief-guide.html the departmental requirements for a BSEE program include the following courses: 6.002 Circuits and Electronics 6.003 Signals and Systems And where did you go to school, Arny? You can read what these courses entail at http://student.mit.edu/catalog/m6a.html Basically, they require knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. For that matter the use of sound scientific methodology concerning comparative evaluation of 2 or more products in the same research experiment has little, if anything to do with electrical engineering per se. I'm sure that this claim will have any number of actual electrical engineers rolling in the aisles. I don't think so. Since audio equipment is evaluated within the context of its specifications, and those specifications are given in terms of ohm, volts and a few other common engineering units of measure, it is impossible to properly evaluate audio gear without knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. Since in the above statement, you have appropriated the word "properly", you can ascribe whatever criteria you want to it. But that doesn't make it true. The purpose of home audio equipment is to induce pleasure in the listener. The terms "ohm" and "volt" have vague connection to that, as evidenced by the many kinds of equipment with inferior specifications that many listeners claim provide greater pleasure. It has to do with experimental design, knowledge of statistical analysis methods, and of course, the honesty to use them in an ethical way. None of which you adhere to. It also has to do with operating the equipment within its specified parameters which are given in terms of ohm volts and a very few other common engineering measures. No, it doesn't. It has to do with operating the equipment in a way that pleases the listener. Whether talking about his hallowed ABX protocols or his deceptive attempt to use statistics here, many of found him to be severely lacking. Given that this many includes people like Morein and Richman, who have now admitted that they don't know the difference between ohms and volts, it is obviously an irrelevant criteria. No admission is made. Your constant repetition of this falsehood detracts from your argument. You would be more credible if you would stick with what your detractors actually say. Arny, you are a ***BAD SCIENTIST*** |
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The Dune Connection & Volts
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge about various audio phenomena. Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission that I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Point of order here - since Richman and Morein by their own admission, don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, how can either sensibly comment on the importance and relevance of this knowledge? Let me put it this way - think about all the audio products that are officially characterized in terms of ohms and volts. Every speaker, every power amplifier, every thing that operates on electrical power, every active and passive signal processor... the list is seemingly endless. Consider how nonsensical those characterizations are if you don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt! Consider how meaningful those characterizations are to persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Now compare and contrast the highly limited potential audio knowledge of Morein and Richman who admit they don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, with the vast potential for audio knowledge by persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. This critical admission also makes at least one of Morein's former claims into a lie. NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:41:33 -0600 From: "Robert Morein" Message-ID: "I've passed the prelim in both theoretical physics and electrical engineering," AFAIK this is difficult or impossible to do without knowing the difference between an ohm and a volt. knowing the difference between a volt and an ohm, as different units of electrical measurement, is absurd. Since you admit that don't know what that difference between an ohm and a volt is Richman, how can you claim to judge? This is typical of the arrogance and ignorance of Morein and Richman - they pretend to be qualified to judge that for which they lack the basic knowledge required to judge. They are like wannabe automotive engineers who don't know the difference between a foot and a pound. Or like chemists who don't know the difference between a gram and a mole. Or like a cook in the US who does not know the difference between a teaspoon and a degree. Or like a banker who does not know the difference between a percentage point and a dollar. The list is endless. Knowledge of that difference has nothing to do, of course, with training or background in electrical engineering. The sort of nonsense one hears from a person who never took electrical engineering course number one - which is BTW perfectly normal for persons with degrees in the liberal arts, especially psychology. Knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts is taught by freshman and physics classes, and required knowledge prior to entry of many courses that are at the core of any electrical engineering program. For example, per http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ug/brief-guide.html the departmental requirements for a BSEE program include the following courses: 6.002 Circuits and Electronics 6.003 Signals and Systems You can read what these courses entail at http://student.mit.edu/catalog/m6a.html Basically, they require knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. For that matter the use of sound scientific methodology concerning comparative evaluation of 2 or more products in the same research experiment has little, if anything to do with electrical engineering per se. I'm sure that this claim will have any number of actual electrical engineers rolling in the aisles. Since audio equipment is evaluated within the context of its specifications, and those specifications are given in terms of ohm, volts and a few other common engineering units of measure, it is impossible to properly evaluate audio gear without knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. It has to do with experimental design, knowledge of statistical analysis methods, and of course, the honesty to use them in an ethical way. It also has to do with operating the equipment within its specified parameters which are given in terms of ohm volts and a very few other common engineering measures. Whether talking about his hallowed ABX protocols or his deceptive attempt to use statistics here, many of found him to be severely lacking. Given that this many includes people like Morein and Richman, who have now admitted that they don't know the difference between ohms and volts, it is obviously an irrelevant criteria. As is his custom, Krueger persists in spewing ludicrous fabrications. He completely fails to demonstrate any knowledge of statistical analysis. He totally avoids the verifiable fact that he has no knowledge whatsoever re. the audio backgrounds of eithe Mr. Morein or myself, and can only engage in babble about "electrical engineering" while failing to address his woeful lack of competence in the design or implementation of sound experimental design when running his "tests". And of course, he fails to address the fact that over a 7 year period he has repeated slandered me by lying about my academic, experiential and professional credentials. And as for "audio knowledge", Krueger fails to justify his lengthy history of attacks upon noted audio professionals such as Glen Zelniker, Paul Bambourough, John Atkinson, and at times, even Jim Johnston - all of whom, have, in one form or another, registererd their discust, scorn and ridicule when confronted with Krueger's agenda-drriven lies and deceptions. Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D. Licensed Psychologist Bruce J. Richman |
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Robert Morein wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge about various audio phenomena. Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission that I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Definition of "tacit": Definition: [adj] indicated by necessary connotation though not expressed directly; "gave silent consent"; "a tacit agreement"; "the understood provisos of a custody agreement" It is clear that neither Dr. Richman nor I have given out consent, as required by the above definition. Simply another symptom of ***BAD SCIENCE*** from Arny Krueger's early onset dementia. As is his custom, compulsive liar Krueger simply tries to attribute to others words they neither spoke nor implied. Since this documented slaanderer has no regard for facts, this is not surprising. Point of order here - since Richman and Morein by their own admission, don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, how can either sensibly comment on the importance and relevance of this knowledge? Once again, we do not "admit." Admission is a volitional act. Since we have not admitted what you claim, you are misinterpreting us to serve your twisted needs. Agreed. In point of fact, such nonsensical statements from Krueger provide more evidence that he is delusional, i.e. suffering from a fixed belief system that is unsupported by factual evidence. Let me put it this way - think about all the audio products that are officially characterized in terms of ohms and volts. Every speaker, every power amplifier, every thing that operates on electrical power, every active and passive signal processor... the list is seemingly endless. Consider how nonsensical those characterizations are if you don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt! Once again, no admission on our part that we do not know the meaning of the above terms. Why do you insist on applying an interpretation of the words of others which does not conform to the intended meaning? I suspect that Krueger, given his woeful lack of insight into either the character of knowledge of others, is simply engaging in another pitiful attempt to fool the RAO public. What is so hilarious about this is the obviousl fact that it does not take a degree in any physical science to know the difference between a volt and an ohm. More to the point, Krueger simply demonstrates that he has neither the motivation nor the intelligence (let alone the integrity) to actually determine in any way the validity of his ludicrous, false claim about knowledge of ohms or volts. So, given his obvious inability to (a) make truthful statements, or (b) evaluate the validity of the fabrications he creates, why should anybody blieve this compulsive liar and fraud? Consider how meaningful those characterizations are to persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Now compare and contrast the highly limited potential audio knowledge of Morein and Richman who admit they don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, with the vast potential for audio knowledge by persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. The third statement by Krueger that we "admit" that we don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt. This critical admission also makes at least one of Morein's former claims into a lie. No admission is made. His fraudulent and false statements, repeated for no apparent reason other than to satisfy his own twisted ego, provide further testiimony to his true mission on RAO - to distribute propaganda. His agenda-driven propaganda, filled with ludicrous lies and completely unsupported false claims, ironically just helps to convince anybody not exposed to his lies and paranoid conspiracy theories in the past, that his credibility is zero. NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:41:33 -0600 From: "Robert Morein" Message-ID: "I've passed the prelim in both theoretical physics and electrical engineering," AFAIK this is difficult or impossible to do without knowing the difference between an ohm and a volt. Conclusion: Morein does know the difference between an ohm and a volt. knowing the difference between a volt and an ohm, as different units of electrical measurement, is absurd. Since you admit that don't know what that difference between an ohm and a volt is Richman, how can you claim to judge? This is typical of the arrogance and ignorance of Morein and Richman - they pretend to be qualified to judge that for which they lack the basic knowledge required to judge. They are like wannabe automotive engineers who don't know the difference between a foot and a pound. Or like chemists who don't know the difference between a gram and a mole. Or like a cook in the US who does not know the difference between a teaspoon and a degree. Or like a banker who does not know the difference between a percentage point and a dollar. The list is endless. Or an Arny Krueger who does not know the difference between a truth and a lie? Knowledge of that difference has nothing to do, of course, with training or background in electrical engineering. Of course not. The sort of nonsense one hears from a person who never took electrical engineering course number one - which is BTW perfectly normal for persons with degrees in the liberal arts, especially psychology. Krueger again commits a blatant lie, further verifying his woeful ignorance of psychology, which is not considered one of the "liberal artts". This is not surprising since he has attempted in the past on RAO o smear this profession, which is generally considered to be one of the social sciences. More specifically, the field of clinical psycholgy, which includes such activities as psychological assessmetnts of people, and various forms of psychotherapy designed to help ameliorate varioous types of emotional distress, including Adjustment Disorders, Psychotic Disorders, and Personality Disorders - to mention 3 of the more common forms of diagnosable abnorrmal behavior with which it deals - has never been considered by knowledgable, intelligent people to be one of the "liberal arts". So Krueger simply demonstrates his colossal ignorance and/or willingness to lie when he makes such a stupid statement. The many peer-reviewed journals in whcih huge amounts of empirical research are published on an ongoing basis, complete with descriptions of experimental design, statistical analysis and results, etc. make Krueger's poorly informed statements risable. Knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts is taught by freshman and physics classes, and required knowledge prior to entry of many courses that are at the core of any electrical engineering program. For example, per http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ug/brief-guide.html the departmental requirements for a BSEE program include the following courses: 6.002 Circuits and Electronics 6.003 Signals and Systems And where did you go to school, Arny? Surely not M.I.T. on the banks of the Charles River. You can read what these courses entail at http://student.mit.edu/catalog/m6a.html Basically, they require knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. For that matter the use of sound scientific methodology concerning comparative evaluation of 2 or more products in the same research experiment has little, if anything to do with electrical engineering per se. I'm sure that this claim will have any number of actual electrical engineers rolling in the aisles. I don't think so. Since audio equipment is evaluated within the context of its specifications, and those specifications are given in terms of ohm, volts and a few other common engineering units of measure, it is impossible to properly evaluate audio gear without knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. Since in the above statement, you have appropriated the word "properly", you can ascribe whatever criteria you want to it. But that doesn't make it true. The purpose of home audio equipment is to induce pleasure in the listener. The terms "ohm" and "volt" have vague connection to that, as evidenced by the many kinds of equipment with inferior specifications that many listeners claim provide greater pleasure. It has to do with experimental design, knowledge of statistical analysis methods, and of course, the honesty to use them in an ethical way. None of which you adhere to. It also has to do with operating the equipment within its specified parameters which are given in terms of ohm volts and a very few other common engineering measures. No, it doesn't. It has to do with operating the equipment in a way that pleases the listener. Whether talking about his hallowed ABX protocols or his deceptive attempt to use statistics here, many of found him to be severely lacking. Given that this many includes people like Morein and Richman, who have now admitted that they don't know the difference between ohms and volts, it is obviously an irrelevant criteria. No admission is made. Your constant repetition of this falsehood detracts from your argument. You would be more credible if you would stick with what your detractors actually say. Arny, you are a ***BAD SCIENTIST*** Bruce J. Richman |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge about various audio phenomena. Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission that I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Definition of "tacit": Definition: [adj] indicated by necessary connotation though not expressed directly; "gave silent consent"; "a tacit agreement"; "the understood provisos of a custody agreement" It is clear that neither Dr. Richman nor I have given out consent, as required by the above definition. The definition above does not absolutely require explicit consent on your parts. Indeed, the use of the word by me indicates that no verbal consent has been given, nor is one expected. Simply another symptom of ***BAD SCIENCE*** from Arny Krueger's early onset dementia. I believe that another has said that if bad science killed the perpetrator, Morein would already be dead. I'm sure we can work out an extension for you, Richman. As is his custom, compulsive liar Krueger simply tries to attribute to others words they neither spoke nor implied. It's really quite simple Richman or (Morien). Demonstrate that you do know the difference between an ohm and a volt and my claim is easily falsified. How many times do I have to repeat this offer. Instead, we get ludicrous claims that knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt is irrelevant to an understanding of audio. Since this documented slanderer has no regard for facts, this is not surprising. Since the alleged documentation of my slandering is provided by one or more proven liars, what difference does it make? Point of order here - since Richman and Morein by their own admission, don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, how can either sensibly comment on the importance and relevance of this knowledge? Once again, we do not "admit." Admission is a volitional act. Since we have not admitted what you claim, you are misinterpreting us to serve your twisted needs. The balls are in in your court gentlemen - instead of denying that knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt is relevant to audio, just conclusively demonstrate evidence of that knowledge. Agreed. In point of fact, such nonsensical statements from Krueger provide more evidence that he is delusional, i.e. suffering from a fixed belief system that is unsupported by factual evidence. If irony killed! Richman and Morein are among RAO's leading victims of this disorder, and what's really strange is the fact that they are proud of it! Let me put it this way - think about all the audio products that are officially characterized in terms of ohms and volts. Every speaker, every power amplifier, every thing that operates on electrical power, every active and passive signal processor... the list is seemingly endless. Consider how nonsensical those characterizations are if you don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt! Once again, no admission on our part that we do not know the meaning of the above terms. Only the tacit one composed of your ongoing silence, gentlemen. Why do you insist on applying an interpretation of the words of others which does not conform to the intended meaning? I suspect that Krueger, given his woeful lack of insight into either the character of knowledge of others, is simply engaging in another pitiful attempt to fool the RAO public. What is so hilarious about this is the obvious fact that it does not take a degree in any physical science to know the difference between a volt and an ohm. Never said it does, which makes your obvious ignorance even more laughable! More to the point, Krueger simply demonstrates that he has neither the motivation nor the intelligence (let alone the integrity) to actually determine in any way the validity of his ludicrous, false claim about knowledge of ohms or volts. That would be a lie. You've been asked to demonstrate that knowledge any way you see fit. Your ongoing silence and voluminous obfuscations speak very loudly. So, given his obvious inability to (a) make truthful statements, or (b) evaluate the validity of the fabrications he creates, why should anybody believe this compulsive liar and fraud? Obviously, you are both worried that someone might believe me, given the volume of obfuscatory prose that you are posting on the topic. Consider how meaningful those characterizations are to persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Now compare and contrast the highly limited potential audio knowledge of Morein and Richman who admit they don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, with the vast potential for audio knowledge by persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. The third statement by Krueger that we "admit" that we don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt. You've been asked to demonstrate that knowledge any way you see fit. Your ongoing silence and voluminous obfuscations speak very loudly. This critical admission also makes at least one of Morein's former claims into a lie. No admission is made. At this point, none is needed. You've been asked to demonstrate that knowledge any way you see fit. Your ongoing silence and voluminous obfuscations speak very loudly. His fraudulent and false statements, repeated for no apparent reason other than to satisfy his own twisted ego, provide further testimony to his true mission on RAO - to distribute propaganda. His agenda-driven propaganda, filled with ludicrous lies and completely unsupported false claims, ironically just helps to convince anybody not exposed to his lies and paranoid conspiracy theories in the past, that his credibility is zero. Easy to say, hard to prove. NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:41:33 -0600 From: "Robert Morein" Message-ID: "I've passed the prelim in both theoretical physics and electrical engineering," AFAIK this is difficult or impossible to do without knowing the difference between an ohm and a volt. Conclusion: Morein does know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Without additional supporting evidence, that could easily be a false conclusion. knowing the difference between a volt and an ohm, as different units of electrical measurement, is absurd. Since you admit that don't know what that difference between an ohm and a volt is Richman, how can you claim to judge? This is typical of the arrogance and ignorance of Morein and Richman - they pretend to be qualified to judge that for which they lack the basic knowledge required to judge. They are like wannabe automotive engineers who don't know the difference between a foot and a pound. Or like chemists who don't know the difference between a gram and a mole. Or like a cook in the US who does not know the difference between a teaspoon and a degree. Or like a banker who does not know the difference between a percentage point and a dollar. The list is endless. Or an Arny Krueger who does not know the difference between a truth and a lie? I seem to have been able to catch you both in enough lies to document my claim that I know the difference. Indeed, you guys implicitly admit that I know the difference between the truth and a lie when you accuse me of being a liar. Implicit in lying is knowing what the truth is, and that implies the knowledge of the difference between the truth and a lie. In short, you've just made liars of yourself, again! Knowledge of that difference has nothing to do, of course, with training or background in electrical engineering. Of course not. The sort of nonsense one hears from a person who never took electrical engineering course number one - which is BTW perfectly normal for persons with degrees in the liberal arts, especially psychology. Krueger again commits a blatant lie, further verifying his woeful ignorance of psychology, which is not considered one of the "liberal arts". Then these web pages are all lies because they place psychology in their schools of liberal arts: http://www.psu.edu/admissions/academ...bacc/psych.htm http://www.cla.sc.edu/PSYC/ http://www.wesley.edu/academics/libe...sychology.html http://www.utexas.edu/student/regist...h08/ch08h.html http://www2.mercer.edu/Liberalarts/S...gy/default.htm http://www.psychology.duq.edu/ http://www.fau.edu/websched/latest/0208/LA8240.html This is not surprising since he has attempted in the past on RAO o smear this profession, which is generally considered to be one of the social sciences. More specifically, the field of clinical psychology, which includes such activities as psychological assessments of people, and various forms of psychotherapy designed to help ameliorate various types of emotional distress, including Adjustment Disorders, Psychotic Disorders, and Personality Disorders - to mention 3 of the more common forms of diagnosable abnormal behavior with which it deals - has never been considered by knowledgeable, intelligent people to be one of the "liberal arts". So Krueger simply demonstrates his colossal ignorance and/or willingness to lie when he makes such a stupid statement. The many peer-reviewed journals in which huge amounts of empirical research are published on an ongoing basis, complete with descriptions of experimental design, statistical analysis and results, etc. make Krueger's poorly informed statements risible. Yes, according to Richman Penn Sate, University of Texas, and any number of other schools that grant degrees in psychology under their schools of liberal arts don't know what they are doing. LOL! Knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts is taught by freshman and physics classes, and required knowledge prior to entry of many courses that are at the core of any electrical engineering program. For example, per http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ug/brief-guide.html the departmental requirements for a BSEE program include the following courses: 6.002 Circuits and Electronics 6.003 Signals and Systems And where did you go to school, Arny? It's a matter of public record - go look it up yourself in google. Surely not M.I.T. on the banks of the Charles River. Surely not. But I thought that their engineering program has a decent reputation. You can read what these courses entail at http://student.mit.edu/catalog/m6a.html Basically, they require knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. For that matter the use of sound scientific methodology concerning comparative evaluation of 2 or more products in the same research experiment has little, if anything to do with electrical engineering per se. I'm sure that this claim will have any number of actual electrical engineers rolling in the aisles. I don't think so. OK, they might be crying. Since audio equipment is evaluated within the context of its specifications, and those specifications are given in terms of ohm, volts and a few other common engineering units of measure, it is impossible to properly evaluate audio gear without knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. Since in the above statement, you have appropriated the word "properly", you can ascribe whatever criteria you want to it. But that doesn't make it true. The falsify it. The purpose of home audio equipment is to induce pleasure in the listener. The terms "ohm" and "volt" have vague connection to that, as evidenced by the many kinds of equipment with inferior specifications that many listeners claim provide greater pleasure. Confused consumers make all sorts of weird claims. It has to do with experimental design, knowledge of statistical analysis methods, and of course, the honesty to use them in an ethical way. None of which you adhere to. Horsefeathers. It also has to do with operating the equipment within its specified parameters which are given in terms of ohm volts and a very few other common engineering measures. No, it doesn't. It has to do with operating the equipment in a way that pleases the listener. So you guys think that operating equipment outside its specified parameters is a good way to please the listener? LOL! Whether talking about his hallowed ABX protocols or his deceptive attempt to use statistics here, many of found him to be severely lacking. By whom? Given that this many includes people like Morein and Richman, who have now admitted that they don't know the difference between ohms and volts, it is obviously an irrelevant criteria. No admission is made. None is needed. your constant obfuscation and deceptions make it clear that you're trying to bullcrap your way out of this corner. Your constant repetition of this falsehood detracts from your argument. You would be more credible if you would stick with what your detractors actually say. Arny, you are a ***BAD SCIENTIST*** Coming from hopeless fools like Morein and Richman, that is as much effectively positive feedback as I can take in one day! Bruce J. Richman |
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Arny Krueger=***BAD SCIENTIST***
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge about various audio phenomena. Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission that I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Definition of "tacit": Definition: [adj] indicated by necessary connotation though not expressed directly; "gave silent consent"; "a tacit agreement"; "the understood provisos of a custody agreement" It is clear that neither Dr. Richman nor I have given out consent, as required by the above definition. The definition above does not absolutely require explicit consent on your parts. Indeed, the use of the word by me indicates that no verbal consent has been given, nor is one expected. Of course not. In your warped, twisted version of reality, you exact "admissions" from people without their agreement, understanding, or consent. You can and do say that I "admitted" that white is black, according to this preposterous, deceptive, lying, scandalous abuse of the English language. But the whole point is to neutralize you, just as I did with McCarty. Today he is a laughingstock. We'll just keep at it until you are equivalently marginalized. |
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
Of course not. In your warped, twisted version of reality, you exact "admissions" from people without their agreement, understanding, or consent. Well how naive are you Morein? Do you think that people just out with it and freely admit that they are lying or incompetent? LOL! You can and do say that I "admitted" that white is black, according to this preposterous, deceptive, lying, scandalous abuse of the English language. Morein, do you think that white is black? But the whole point is to neutralize you, just as I did with McCarty. So its true what they say about you being an intentional hurtful person who just moves from one victim to the next, eh Morein? Today he is a laughingstock. We'll just keep at it until you are equivalently marginalized. A guy named Benchimol tried that a few months back. Where is he now? |
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Robert Morein said to ****-for-Brains: But the whole point is to neutralize you, just as I did with McCarty. Today he is a laughingstock. We'll just keep at it until you are equivalently marginalized. There are only a few RAO posters who don't know the truth about Mr. ****. You probably know who they are -- duh-Mikey, torrie****s, The Big ****, and maybe one or two others. It's also easy to see that those individuals are also ****ed in the head, which is probably why they support Krooger. So in reality, you're reading and ridiculing Turdy's posts for your own satisfaction. I've been there and done that, although not on a regular basis for a long time. |
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Robert Morein wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge about various audio phenomena. Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission that I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Definition of "tacit": Definition: [adj] indicated by necessary connotation though not expressed directly; "gave silent consent"; "a tacit agreement"; "the understood provisos of a custody agreement" It is clear that neither Dr. Richman nor I have given out consent, as required by the above definition. The definition above does not absolutely require explicit consent on your parts. Indeed, the use of the word by me indicates that no verbal consent has been given, nor is one expected. Of course not. In your warped, twisted version of reality, you exact "admissions" from people without their agreement, understanding, or consent. You can and do say that I "admitted" that white is black, according to this preposterous, deceptive, lying, scandalous abuse of the English language. Agreed. This type of extremely transparent lying, in which Krueger tries to invent what people have actually said (as opposed to what really happened) is one of may reasons that he has been repeatedly identified as RAO's most widely despised and hated posters of all time. His anti-subjective-opinion views have nothing to do with it. His basic dishonesty, which is quite pervasive, is the main reason that practically nobody has any respect for him on RAO. But the whole point is to neutralize you, just as I did with McCarty. Today he is a laughingstock. We'll just keep at it until you are equivalently marginalized. I'd say about 99% of RAO already has seen through his years of lying, charades, slanderous attackis on many individual posters, and self-serving paranoid propaganda. And for the one person who blindly parrots and defends his every utterance, who cares? Bruce J. Richman |
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Arny Krueger=***BAD SCIENTIST***
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message Of course not. In your warped, twisted version of reality, you exact "admissions" from people without their agreement, understanding, or consent. Well how naive are you Morein? Do you think that people just out with it and freely admit that they are lying or incompetent? LOL! You can and do say that I "admitted" that white is black, according to this preposterous, deceptive, lying, scandalous abuse of the English language. Morein, do you think that white is black? But the whole point is to neutralize you, just as I did with McCarty. So its true what they say about you being an intentional hurtful person who just moves from one victim to the next, eh Morein? Today he is a laughingstock. We'll just keep at it until you are equivalently marginalized. A guy named Benchimol tried that a few months back. Where is he now? Arny, you already are a laughingstock. Unfortunately, you are totally oblivious of the fact. You have just conducted a summary trial on the ability of Dr. Richman and I to distinguish the terms "ohm" and "volt". You imagine that we have "tacitly" admitted something, aided in your delusional thinking by a definition made up for the occasion. What Dr. Richman says about you is true. You are a nutcase. You weren't always a nutcase. But you have become one. The primary symptom is your constant association with individuals who dislike you. It's a fact you can't accept. But you can't change history. You've alienated almost everyone, in the service of a belief that is very important to you, but both false and trite at the same time to everyone else. You've wasted your life on a triviality, advertised by a trash website, advertising ***BAD SCIENCE***. And this is only in character, since you are a ***BAD SCIENTIST***. |
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Arny Krueger=***BAD SCIENTIST***
"Robert Morein" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message But the whole point is to neutralize you, just as I did with McCarty. So its true what they say about you being an intentional hurtful person who just moves from one victim to the next, eh Morein? Today he is a laughingstock. We'll just keep at it until you are equivalently marginalized. A guy named Benchimol tried that a few months back. Where is he now? Arny, you already are a laughingstock. Thanks for contradicting what you said in your previous post, Morein. Unfortunately, you are totally oblivious of the fact. I wish you'd keep your story straight for even two hours. You have just conducted a summary trial on the ability of Dr. Richman and I to distinguish the terms "ohm" and "volt". I gave you ample opportunity to defend yourselves and you chose not to. Richman even went so far as to argue that his technical incompetence is irrelevant. Now that's conceding my point, with a bullet! LOL! You imagine that we have "tacitly" admitted something, aided in your delusional thinking by a definition made up for the occasion. It seems to me that we've got another live one here - like sockpuppet wheel he's confused RAO with real life What Dr. Richman says about you is true. You are a nutcase. And the two of you are paragons of sanity and qualified to judge? LOL! You weren't always a nutcase. But you have become one. Must be propinquity. The primary symptom is your constant association with individuals who dislike you. Trust me, I spend lots more time with people who like me. It's a fact you can't accept. Actually, just within Usenet you're wrong. But you can't change history. Why would I want to? You've alienated almost everyone, in the service of a belief that is very important to you, but both false and trite at the same time to everyone else. Morein, you got any proof of that, other than your delusion that RAO is the real world and somehow matters in the real world? You've wasted your life on a triviality, advertised by a trash website, advertising ***BAD SCIENCE***. PCABX is such bad science that even HFN has published an article praising it. And this is only in character, since you are a ***BAD SCIENTIST***. If irony killed.... Morein, you're the only court-certified bad scientist that I know. |
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The Dune Connection & Volts
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ...
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge about various audio phenomena. Of course it is irrelevant. Krueger is simply illustrating his typical use of delusional logic, in which he erroneously infers that because somebody doesn't comment about a specific topic, such as the difference between an ohm nad a volt, that they are ignorant. Krueger employs the same unscientific thinking when he draws the conclusion that because a poster doeesn't specifically condemn a post of JBorg's, then they aprove of its content. Needless to say, such interpretations of "non-reesults' would not ever find there way into any self-respecting peer-reviewed journal. But then again, Krueger apparently ha no understanding of scientific methodology commonly used in the various sciences. Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission that I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Point of order here - since Richman and Morein by their own admission, don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, how can either sensibly comment on the importance and relevance of this knowledge? Let me put it this way - think about all the audio products that are officially characterized in terms of ohms and volts. Every speaker, every power amplifier, every thing that operates on electrical power, every active and passive signal processor... the list is seemingly endless. Consider how nonsensical those characterizations are if you don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt! Consider how meaningful those characterizations are to persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. Now compare and contrast the highly limited potential audio knowledge of Morein and Richman who admit they don't know the difference between an ohm and a volt, with the vast potential for audio knowledge by persons who do know the difference between an ohm and a volt. This critical admission also makes at least one of Morein's former claims into a lie. NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:41:33 -0600 From: "Robert Morein" Message-ID: "I've passed the prelim in both theoretical physics and electrical engineering," AFAIK this is difficult or impossible to do without knowing the difference between an ohm and a volt. knowing the difference between a volt and an ohm, as different units of electrical measurement, is absurd. Since you admit that don't know what that difference between an ohm and a volt is Richman, how can you claim to judge? This is typical of the arrogance and ignorance of Morein and Richman - they pretend to be qualified to judge that for which they lack the basic knowledge required to judge. They are like wannabe automotive engineers who don't know the difference between a foot and a pound. Or like chemists who don't know the difference between a gram and a mole. Or like a cook in the US who does not know the difference between a teaspoon and a degree. Or like a banker who does not know the difference between a percentage point and a dollar. The list is endless. Knowledge of that difference has nothing to do, of course, with training or background in electrical engineering. The sort of nonsense one hears from a person who never took electrical engineering course number one - which is BTW perfectly normal for persons with degrees in the liberal arts, especially psychology. This is of course another example of Krueger's ignorance and prejudice re. the field of psychology - which is generally considered to be a social science, and whose practitioners frequently engage in empirical research that meets the same rigorous standards concerning methdology as other "liberal arts" like biology, chemistry, physics, etc. - all of which are taught in most liberal arts colleges. So once again, Krueger is trying to deceive the public by smearing a professional. The Google record clearly evidences (e.g. in May, 2003) that this is not the first time that Krueger has engaged in this sort of defamation of another field of scientific inquiry. And of course, since it is one that can be and has been used to evaluate the irrationality of his posts, he is, understandably, trying to smear it. Knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts is taught by freshman and physics classes, and required knowledge prior to entry of many courses that are at the core of any electrical engineering program. For example, per http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ug/brief-guide.html the departmental requirements for a BSEE program include the following courses: 6.002 Circuits and Electronics 6.003 Signals and Systems You can read what these courses entail at http://student.mit.edu/catalog/m6a.html Basically, they require knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. For that matter the use of sound scientific methodology concerning comparative evaluation of 2 or more products in the same research experiment has little, if anything to do with electrical engineering per se. I'm sure that this claim will have any number of actual electrical engineers rolling in the aisles. Since audio equipment is evaluated within the context of its specifications, and those specifications are given in terms of ohm, volts and a few other common engineering units of measure, it is impossible to properly evaluate audio gear without knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts. It has to do with experimental design, knowledge of statistical analysis methods, and of course, the honesty to use them in an ethical way. It also has to do with operating the equipment within its specified parameters which are given in terms of ohm volts and a very few other common engineering measures. Whether talking about his hallowed ABX protocols or his deceptive attempt to use statistics here, many of found him to be severely lacking. Given that this many includes people like Morein and Richman, who have now admitted that they don't know the difference between ohms and volts, it is obviously an irrelevant criteria. The very transparent fact that Krueger has repeated the same risable lie so repetitively in the same post is further evidence of his ignorance. It also illustrates how delusional liars try and distribute propaganda through repetition of the same lies over and over again. Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D. Licensed Psychologist |
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Arny Krueger=***BAD SCIENTIST***
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message But the whole point is to neutralize you, just as I did with McCarty. So its true what they say about you being an intentional hurtful person who just moves from one victim to the next, eh Morein? Today he is a laughingstock. We'll just keep at it until you are equivalently marginalized. A guy named Benchimol tried that a few months back. Where is he now? Arny, you already are a laughingstock. Thanks for contradicting what you said in your previous post, Morein. Unfortunately, you are totally oblivious of the fact. I wish you'd keep your story straight for even two hours. You have just conducted a summary trial on the ability of Dr. Richman and I to distinguish the terms "ohm" and "volt". I gave you ample opportunity to defend yourselves and you chose not to. Richman even went so far as to argue that his technical incompetence is irrelevant. Now that's conceding my point, with a bullet! LOL! You imagine that we have "tacitly" admitted something, aided in your delusional thinking by a definition made up for the occasion. It seems to me that we've got another live one here - like sockpuppet wheel he's confused RAO with real life What Dr. Richman says about you is true. You are a nutcase. And the two of you are paragons of sanity and qualified to judge? LOL! You weren't always a nutcase. But you have become one. Must be propinquity. The primary symptom is your constant association with individuals who dislike you. Trust me, I spend lots more time with people who like me. Arny, one thing I cannot do is trust you. You're a compulsive liar. It's a fact you can't accept. Not from you, Arny. You've just decreed another "fact", and I don't trust you. Actually, just within Usenet you're wrong. But you can't change history. Why would I want to? I pity you if you don't. You've alienated almost everyone, in the service of a belief that is very important to you, but both false and trite at the same time to everyone else. Morein, you got any proof of that, other than your delusion that RAO is the real world and somehow matters in the real world? Arny, there is only one world. What you, in your primitive english, are enquiring, is whether your behavior here could cost you any business opportunities or personal relationships. While people do make some allowance for what some call the special character of these discussion forums, neither do they discount the behavior seen here entirely. It all depends upon the degree and frequency that you, or anybody else, exhibits antisocial qualities. We are separated from what you call the "real world" by a mild screen of tolerance. But we are all under some degree of scrutiny, both currently, and in the records of Google Groups. The things we write here can have an effect upon our other areas of our lives. |
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Arny Krueger=***BAD SCIENTIST***
"Robert Morein" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Morein, you got any proof of that, other than your delusion that RAO is the real world and somehow matters in the real world? Arny, there is only one world. No such thing as fiction, eh? What you, in your primitive english, are enquiring, is whether your behavior here could cost you any business opportunities or personal relationships. I'm not enquiring, I'm telling it like it is. While people do make some allowance for what some call the special character of these discussion forums, neither do they discount the behavior seen here entirely. It all depends upon the degree and frequency that you, or anybody else, exhibits antisocial qualities. We are separated from what you call the "real world" by a mild screen of tolerance. But we are all under some degree of scrutiny, both currently, and in the records of Google Groups. The things we write here can have an effect upon our other areas of our lives. If wishes were fishes. RAO is so unreal it isn't even fishy. |
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The Dune Connection & Volts
Holy crap, people. Talk about de-railing a thread.....
To get back to the point: I don't see how going to all of that effort to mod a capacitor in that way is going to make it "sound" better. I would be up for a blind comparison, though. I would not recommend someone do this to a piece of audio equipment they have just bought, or own, due to the fact that it will void any manufacturer's warranty. |
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The Dune Connection & Volts
"Dave" wrote in message
news 
Holy crap, people. Talk about de-railing a thread..... It's an RAO tradition. If you want to discuss audio, try one of the other audio groups on Usenet. To get back to the point: I don't see how going to all of that effort to mod a capacitor in that way is going to make it "sound" better. I would be up for a blind comparison, though. IMO, it's not even worth the trouble of a blind comparison. It's snake oil, pure and simple. I would not recommend someone do this to a piece of audio equipment they have just bought, or own, due to the fact that it will void any manufacturer's warranty. Agreed. |
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The Dune Connection & Volts
"Dave" wrote in message news Holy crap, people. Talk about de-railing a thread..... To get back to the point: I don't see how going to all of that effort to mod a capacitor in that way is going to make it "sound" better. I would be up for a blind comparison, though. I would not recommend someone do this to a piece of audio equipment they have just bought, or own, due to the fact that it will void any manufacturer's warranty. Not only is it unlikely to make a difference, the beeswax is an inferior sealant to the synthetic rubber membrane/aluminum can. It is a harmful mod. |
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The Dune Connection & Volts
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:22:28 GMT, "Dave" wrote:
Holy crap, people. Talk about de-railing a thread..... To get back to the point: I don't see how going to all of that effort to mod a capacitor in that way is going to make it "sound" better. I would be up for a blind comparison, though. I would not recommend someone do this to a piece of audio equipment they have just bought, or own, due to the fact that it will void any manufacturer's warranty. There is no warranty when you give birth to a tweako-freako. |
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