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Hope someone can clarify an issue for me. Will an Audigy (Audigy2 actually)
record in 96khz/24 bit? According to Creative, it will go up to 192kHz in
stereo. If so, is it a true 96/24 & 192/24, not internally resampled as I
understand it does to record to 44.1/16 and lower? Or is that not correct?
Or, if so, does it matter? How do other soundcards do it?

Per the Creative website:

"24-bit Digital-to-Analog conversion during playback with sampling rates of
8, 11.025, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz in 7.1 mode and up to
192kHz in stereo mode
24-bit Analog-to-Digital conversion during recording in 8, 16 or 24-bit at
sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz
SPDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface) input at up to 24-bit/ 96kHz quality
SPDIF output up to 24-bit at 48 or 96kHz
ASIO drivers for low latency (=2ms) multi-track playback and recording at
16-bit/48kHz"

If in fact it has this capability, do I need to do anything else besides set
the recording program - i.e. Soundforge to record at 96/24?

What about the setting for "32-bit floating point". When/why would you use
that bit rate? Can an Audigy take advantage of it?

The "why" is that I want to see if I can detect any difference between
something recorded at these rates compared to 44.1 / 16-bit.

Btw, if you want to go on an anti-Creative tirade, that's fine since I'm
trying to get to the nitty gritty truth, but please back up any bashing with
data/references/explanations.

Thanks for all shared wisdom.


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Why would you use a consumer game card to record at 96KHz.....just
silly.

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On 24 Jan 2006 08:53:34 -0800, wrote:

Why would you use a consumer game card to record at 96KHz.....


Just to **** you off?
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a cheap but good card to record is the m-audio audiophile 24/96
much much better then anything audigy puts out
cheers
www.m-audio.net

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Why would you use a consumer game card to record at 96KHz.....just
silly.



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"TH" wrote in message
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a cheap but good card to record is the m-audio audiophile 24/96
much much better then anything audigy puts out
cheers
www.m-audio.net

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Why would you use a consumer game card to record at 96KHz.....just
silly.



It would be really good if someone would actually attempt to answer the OP's
question.

Jeez.

PaulF




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"Doc" wrote in message
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Hope someone can clarify an issue for me. Will an Audigy
(Audigy2 actually) record in 96khz/24 bit?


I believe so. Next question - will it record a say 40 KHz signal worth a
^%$!! ?

Next question - a true 24 bits is 144 dB unweighted dynamic range, but no
real world audio interface for a reasonable price can do that. Can the
Audigy 2 play and record with even 90 dB unweighted dynamic range (i.e., 15
bit resolution)?

According to Creative, it will go up to 192kHz in stereo.


As a playback device. Next question, will it playback a 90 KHz audio signal
worth a $#@!! ?

If so, is it a true 96/24 & 192/24, not internally resampled as I
understand it does to record to 44.1/16 and lower?


The specs below seem to say that 24/192 is playback-only.

Or is that not correct?


I know that similar (but slightly scaled-back) claims were made for the
Audigy 1, and the actual product missed the mark so bad that I think I heard
the words "consent decree" someplace along the line.

Or, if so, does it matter?


A really job of recording and playing 16/44 can make and play a lot of good
music just fine.

How do other soundcards do it?


The best sound cards record and play 24/192 and give a nice rendition of
about 115 dB dynamic range and audio up to 90 KHz and maybe a bit more. $800
or so, please. For about $200 the M-Audio will do that, but *only* with
about 108 dB or so dynamic range. It's a great plenty.

Per the Creative website:

"24-bit Digital-to-Analog conversion during playback with
sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48
and 96kHz in 7.1 mode and up to 192kHz in stereo mode
24-bit Analog-to-Digital conversion during recording in
8, 16 or 24-bit at sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16,
22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz
SPDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface) input at up to
24-bit/ 96kHz quality SPDIF output up to 24-bit at 48 or
96kHz
ASIO drivers for low latency (=2ms) multi-track playback
and recording at 16-bit/48kHz"


If in fact it has this capability, do I need to do
anything else besides set the recording program - i.e.
Soundforge to record at 96/24?


I have no experience with trying to do that. But with a good sound card,
that's all you have to do.

What about the setting for "32-bit floating point".


A lot of software, perhaps SF handles 24 bit audio with 32 bit floating
point.

When/why would you use that bit rate?


In the lab when I need audio test equipment.

Can an Audigy take advantage of it?


If nothing else Creative took advantage of the *magic* of 24/96 and 24/192
to sell some hardware.

The "why" is that I want to see if I can detect any
difference between something recorded at these rates
compared to 44.1 / 16-bit.


Cut to the chase - probably not.

Here's some stuff to play back and save yourself a lot of work with trying
to record:

http://www.pcabx.com/technical/sample_rates/



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I guess he's going to enter his Lada in the next F1 race too...

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TH wrote:

a cheap but good card to record is the m-audio audiophile 24/96
much much better then anything audigy puts out
cheers
www.m-audio.net


Doesn't seem as impressive as the Creative X-Fi Elite.

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Woofy wrote:

a cheap but good card to record is the m-audio audiophile 24/96
much much better then anything audigy puts out
cheers
www.m-audio.net


Doesn't seem as impressive as the Creative X-Fi Elite.



I connect my DAW to my Sony Playstation with
USB to do all my serious audio production.


I guess you don't read the specs on those either.

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all i have to say is ,go to any studio or talk to anybody that REALLY knows
what they are talking about in recording and tell them you have a
soundblaster card or something from that company and your starting a studio
hahahaha
seriously though, come on.,a soundblaster audigy to record with,get real.
i don't care what specs say on this,they suck for recording.quality is just
not there
i work in a musicstore that is fairly big and i get so many people that buy
these then they come and complain to me on why their recording is noisy or
of poor quality.
i always sell them a proper recording card and the trouble always goes away.
i think i read it somewhere's else in this discussion and they got it right
those cards are meant for gaming
PERIOD!!
please be kind to other people's hears and record with proper equipment
please and thank you
cheers
no hard feelings
just trying to help




"Paul F" wrote in message
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"TH" wrote in message
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a cheap but good card to record is the m-audio audiophile 24/96
much much better then anything audigy puts out
cheers
www.m-audio.net

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ups.com...
Why would you use a consumer game card to record at 96KHz.....just
silly.



It would be really good if someone would actually attempt to answer the
OP's
question.

Jeez.

PaulF






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Woofy wrote:

Doesn't seem as impressive as the Creative X-Fi Elite.


I connect my DAW to my Sony Playstation with
USB to do all my serious audio production.


I guess you don't read the specs on those either.



It's got a box with knobs and a remote, so it's bound to kick ass!!!

http://www.creative.com/products/pro...roduct=140 64


Still not reading the specs eh...

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TH wrote:

all i have to say is ,go to any studio or talk to anybody that REALLY knows
what they are talking about in recording and tell them you have a
soundblaster card or something from that company and your starting a studio
hahahaha


That's right. They never will produce anything as remotely as impressive as that
m-audio card. That *is* what you're saying, isn't it?

Oh, and you're right - specs are rubbish and Golden Ears rule.

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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(snip loads of very useful stuff)

Thanks Arny for answering his question and not sneering at it.

This 'discussion' has seriously depleted my respect for this group, which I
have been reading and enjoying for some time. How much do the THs and Dirk
Brueres actually know I wonder. TH works in a music store! What an expert!
We have a shop in the UK called Dixons. They sell video and audio and
photographic equipment. They are famous for apparently employing people with
little knowledge of what they sell other than what they read on the backs of
the boxes, if they bother to do that. Others contributing to this strand
come across like hobbyists sounding off about their hobby horses.

Again, good stuff Arny - you others, if you don't have anything useful to
answer why don't you shut up?

PaulF


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you asked a question.i answered it.i'm not dissing you.
i'm trying to help you get a better product.
believe me i'm qualified
i work DIRECTLY with manufactures in training and product support to
customers.

"Paul F" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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(snip loads of very useful stuff)

Thanks Arny for answering his question and not sneering at it.

This 'discussion' has seriously depleted my respect for this group, which
I
have been reading and enjoying for some time. How much do the THs and Dirk
Brueres actually know I wonder. TH works in a music store! What an expert!
We have a shop in the UK called Dixons. They sell video and audio and
photographic equipment. They are famous for apparently employing people
with
little knowledge of what they sell other than what they read on the backs
of
the boxes, if they bother to do that. Others contributing to this strand
come across like hobbyists sounding off about their hobby horses.

Again, good stuff Arny - you others, if you don't have anything useful to
answer why don't you shut up?

PaulF




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"TH" wrote in message
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you asked a question.i answered it.i'm not dissing you.
i'm trying to help you get a better product.
believe me i'm qualified
i work DIRECTLY with manufactures in training and product support to
customers.


woopeee doo-dah day. You ought to admit you didn't know the answer.





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Doc

The answer is yes. And to the purists about it actually doesn't sound bad.



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sorry if truth hurts


"Nappy" wrote in message
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"TH" wrote in message
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you asked a question.i answered it.i'm not dissing you.
i'm trying to help you get a better product.
believe me i'm qualified
i work DIRECTLY with manufactures in training and product support to
customers.


woopeee doo-dah day. You ought to admit you didn't know the answer.





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"TH" wrote in message
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i always sell them a proper recording card and the trouble always goes

away.
i think i read it somewhere's else in this discussion and they got it

right
those cards are meant for gaming


So, you do or don't know the answer to the question?


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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Doc" wrote in message
k.net

Hope someone can clarify an issue for me. Will an Audigy
(Audigy2 actually) record in 96khz/24 bit?


Next question - will it record a say 40 KHz signal worth a
^%$!! ?


And the answer is...? (I'm surprised you don't have an Audigy analysis on
your sound card comparison chart)

By the way, thanks for being the first to give a straight answer to the
actual question.

The specs below seem to say that 24/192 is playback-only.


Reposting this segment, with emphasis on a key word:

24-bit Analog-to-Digital conversion during **recording** in
8, 16 or 24-bit at sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16,
22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz


Do you have any info that contradicts this?


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"Doc" wrote in message
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Reposting this segment, with emphasis on a key word:

24-bit Analog-to-Digital conversion during **recording** in
8, 16 or 24-bit at sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16,
22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz


Do you have any info that contradicts this?



And p.s.,

If I'm misinterpreting what this is saying somehow, please let me know.
Sounds to me like they're saying it records at 96/24. And just to avoid the
tone-of-voice translation problem that sometimes occurs over the internet,
I'm asking seriously, not being at all antagonistic.

Thanks.





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"Segensreich Maschinerich" wrote in message
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I'm not sure how many different cards named "Audigy 2" exist.


They're made by Soundblaster. There have been various iterations of the
Audigy - Audigy, Audigy Gamer, Audigy2, Platinum, ZS, and a few others I
believe. I don't know how much of it is simply marketing to give the
appearance of "something newer and better" and how much genuine difference
there is between them as far as their basic capacity to process digital
audio, though there might be differences. Maybe someone on here who has
intimate knowledge of their nuts 'n bolts could comment on that. There have
been bugs related to gaming and midi issues, some of which have been
resolved, some of which haven't.

There was
a card apparently called "Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro" which has been
tested with the (truly excellent, IMHO) freeware "Rightmark Audio
Analyzer". You can download the results of this test he
http://audio.rightmark.org/download.shtml


Thanks! Certainly more compelling to see data than rantings.



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I don't know the answer to your question, but I have one regarding the
Audigy 2 which I (mistakenly) bought and am stuck with until finances
are better.

I have found it impossible to record a track without recording all the
previously recorded tracks onto the new track, short of hard panning
everything and assigning the incoming signal to the other side. This is
a frustrating limitation, and for the life of me I can not figure out
how to record multiple tracks at a time with this limitation. I don't
know if my settings are wrong in cakewalk (pro 9, by the way...finances
again, or from some reviews I may be better off sticking with what I
know), or if it's the card. I'm no technical wiz, but I've never had
this trouble before. Only reason I don't use my old card is because it
(or the driver) seems to be incompatible with my operating system. I
still have the old card, and if someone knows why a terratec ewx 24/96
driver won't work with with windows 2k, please let me know. Maybe I
should sell the Audigy2 to a gamer and reinstall the old card, but
meanwhile I'm pretty lost. Any ideas?

-Benjamin
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"benjamin&sharon" wrote in message
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I have found it impossible to record a track without recording all the
previously recorded tracks onto the new track, short of hard panning
everything and assigning the incoming signal to the other side. This is
a frustrating limitation, and for the life of me I can not figure out
how to record multiple tracks at a time with this limitation.


You've got the mixer set to record "what you hear". Not a limitation,
actually a very useful tool. You need to find the Creative mixer - and when
you do, make a shortcut on your desktop - and set it to record from line in.
Don't use mic in, ever, for anything.

On the line-in jack of the Audigy, I have a stereo connector with L/R RCA
connections on the back with a L/R cable pair that's routed around to the
front and velcro'd to the side of the computer case (along with my video
cables) for strain relief and orderliness, and RCA connectors attached to
the other end so I can make a quick connect without having to fumble around
for the line-in connector every time.

Seriously, not trying to be a wiseguy, before condemning the card, make sure
you understand how to steer it. Also, when recording audio, make sure you
have the CD audio muted. I find it's a source of noise.


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"Doc" wrote in message
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On the line-in jack of the Audigy, I have a stereo connector with L/R RCA
connections on the back with a L/R cable pair that's routed around to the
front and velcro'd to the side of the computer case (along with my video
cables) for strain relief and orderliness, and RCA connectors attached to
the other end so I can make a quick connect without having to fumble

around
for the line-in connector every time.


And of course, you need to know which channel you're set to record from if
not recording stereo.


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"Doc" wrote in message
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You've got the mixer set to record "what you hear". Not a limitation,
actually a very useful tool. You need to find the Creative mixer - and

when
you do, make a shortcut on your desktop - and set it to record from line

in.

And make sure the input gain slider is set to "Analog Mix".




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Doc, as far as I know, besides it is or not a good recording card, it DOES
record at those frequencies with no internal resampling.

So, go for it and have fun!

Anyway, I really would like to listen to some works done from someone who's
making all this noise about it. It is not enough to have a kick-ass sound
card to have a good product...

Show your mixes instead of blahblah-ing....

Claudio

"Doc" ha scritto nel messaggio
k.net...
Hope someone can clarify an issue for me. Will an Audigy (Audigy2
actually)
record in 96khz/24 bit? According to Creative, it will go up to 192kHz in
stereo. If so, is it a true 96/24 & 192/24, not internally resampled as I
understand it does to record to 44.1/16 and lower? Or is that not correct?
Or, if so, does it matter? How do other soundcards do it?

Per the Creative website:

"24-bit Digital-to-Analog conversion during playback with sampling rates
of
8, 11.025, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz in 7.1 mode and up to
192kHz in stereo mode
24-bit Analog-to-Digital conversion during recording in 8, 16 or 24-bit at
sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz
SPDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface) input at up to 24-bit/ 96kHz
quality
SPDIF output up to 24-bit at 48 or 96kHz
ASIO drivers for low latency (=2ms) multi-track playback and recording at
16-bit/48kHz"

If in fact it has this capability, do I need to do anything else besides
set
the recording program - i.e. Soundforge to record at 96/24?

What about the setting for "32-bit floating point". When/why would you use
that bit rate? Can an Audigy take advantage of it?

The "why" is that I want to see if I can detect any difference between
something recorded at these rates compared to 44.1 / 16-bit.

Btw, if you want to go on an anti-Creative tirade, that's fine since I'm
trying to get to the nitty gritty truth, but please back up any bashing
with
data/references/explanations.

Thanks for all shared wisdom.




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Doc wrote:
"benjamin&sharon" wrote in message
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I have found it impossible to record a track without recording all the
previously recorded tracks onto the new track, short of hard panning
everything and assigning the incoming signal to the other side. This is
a frustrating limitation, and for the life of me I can not figure out
how to record multiple tracks at a time with this limitation.



You've got the mixer set to record "what you hear". Not a limitation,
actually a very useful tool. You need to find the Creative mixer - and when
you do, make a shortcut on your desktop - and set it to record from line in.
Don't use mic in, ever, for anything.

On the line-in jack of the Audigy, I have a stereo connector with L/R RCA
connections on the back with a L/R cable pair that's routed around to the
front and velcro'd to the side of the computer case (along with my video
cables) for strain relief and orderliness, and RCA connectors attached to
the other end so I can make a quick connect without having to fumble around
for the line-in connector every time.

Seriously, not trying to be a wiseguy, before condemning the card, make sure
you understand how to steer it. Also, when recording audio, make sure you
have the CD audio muted. I find it's a source of noise.




Thanks for the tip. I just set it and I'm going to try to record
something that way.

On a related note, how can I record more than two tracks at a time? Is
that possible on this card? I have the zs platinum pro, and it's
advertisement indicated it would record up to four simultaneous tracks.
You'ver solved one puzzle for me and I appreciate it. If yo know the
answer to the other one, I'd be delighted.

Thanks again.
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benjamin&sharon wrote:

On a related note, how can I record more than two tracks at a time? Is
that possible on this card? I have the zs platinum pro, and it's
advertisement indicated it would record up to four simultaneous
tracks.


"Up to" is the indicator here. What it means is that you can record 4 mono
tracks instead of 2 stereo if you want.

You'ver solved one puzzle for me and I appreciate it. If yo
know the answer to the other one, I'd be delighted.

Thanks again.



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TH wrote:
you asked a question.i answered it.i'm not dissing you.
i'm trying to help you get a better product.


Pay attention son - I'm not the OP. Did you ever actually read the original
post? He wasn't asking you to help him choose a product, he was asking for a
specific answer to a specific question about a specific capability. Bet you
were zonking away in slag-off mode before his electronic ink was even dry.
Useless.

PaulF


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all i have to say is ,go to any studio or talk to anybody that REALLY

knows
what they are talking about
i don't care what specs say on this,they suck for recording.quality is

just
not there


I'm curious if you have personal, direct knowledge of scientific analysis of
the relevant factors related to the subject at hand, beyond "yo dude,
everybody says so..."? Have you ever actually made a recording with one of
the cards the op referred to?

in recording and tell them you have a
soundblaster card or something from that company and your starting a

studio
hahahaha


I don't think he said anything about starting a studio. Obviously a
two-input card wouldn't be appropriate for a working studio, but they were
talking about capabilities in general.

i work in a musicstore that is fairly big and i get so many people that

buy
these then they come and complain to me on why their recording is noisy or
of poor quality.


Wowzers, a real music store? Do you get to wear a snazzy logo tee-shirt and
everything? And we all know the typical counter jockey at the local music
mega-mart is renowned for being a walking compendium of dependable,
comprehensive information, uninfluenced by anything other than getting the
right product to the consumer.

And certainly their "poor quality recordings" couldn't have anything to do
with their skills. Elsewhere in the thread I see where someone was
complaining about the card when it turns out they were just in the wrong
recording mode to do what they wanted to do.




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Michael wrote:
benjamin&sharon wrote:

On a related note, how can I record more than two tracks at a time? Is
that possible on this card? I have the zs platinum pro, and it's
advertisement indicated it would record up to four simultaneous
tracks.



"Up to" is the indicator here. What it means is that you can record 4 mono
tracks instead of 2 stereo if you want.

That's all I need. How is the question.
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For recording purposes, I recomend that you purchase a multitrack ASIO
compatable recording program such as Nuendo. In fact, the ZS Pro can
record 8 tracks or more simultaneously this way: Line 1/Mic, Line 2,
Line 3, SPIDF, and, though I havn't tried it, you could try rigging
onboard CD connectors... The recording software will also allow you
to control each level without fumbling through the creative mixer, and
allow you to treat each output as independent busses, or as a single
7.1 bus. Thus you can use your card to output a studio monitor
signal, a couple monitor signals for tallent, and another to a
mixer... If you so desired. Or you can mix in surround sound.



On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:47:25 GMT, benjamin&sharon
wrote:

I don't know the answer to your question, but I have one regarding the
Audigy 2 which I (mistakenly) bought and am stuck with until finances
are better.

I have found it impossible to record a track without recording all the
previously recorded tracks onto the new track, short of hard panning
everything and assigning the incoming signal to the other side. This is
a frustrating limitation, and for the life of me I can not figure out
how to record multiple tracks at a time with this limitation. I don't
know if my settings are wrong in cakewalk (pro 9, by the way...finances
again, or from some reviews I may be better off sticking with what I
know), or if it's the card. I'm no technical wiz, but I've never had
this trouble before. Only reason I don't use my old card is because it
(or the driver) seems to be incompatible with my operating system. I
still have the old card, and if someone knows why a terratec ewx 24/96
driver won't work with with windows 2k, please let me know. Maybe I
should sell the Audigy2 to a gamer and reinstall the old card, but
meanwhile I'm pretty lost. Any ideas?

-Benjamin

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I didn't read the whole thread, but I can share my experiences with
Audigy 2. Audigy 2 NX, actually, which is a USB-connected external
device. I recorded using this device, and the recording parameters
were set to 96kHz/24-bit (a 32-bit recording into Audition). The
frequency content of the recorded file proved that the sampling
ferquency was truly 96 kHz. But the real bit resolution was 16.

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Someone by the name of doc seems to know how to run this card. If so,
can you, or someone, tell me how to set it up to record four tracks at a
time? Allegedly the zs platinum pro can do this, but I need the "audigy
for idiots" guide or whatever, because I don't see how to do it. I
don't care if two tracks are digital and two are analog, or if it's two
"stereo tracks", but any way you slice it, that is a functionality I
need, and the final test to whether this card lives up to it's
advertisement. If it it does, I will never talk poo poo about
soundblaster again (weel, until the card randomly fries itself or
something). Thanks in advance.

-Benjamin Johnson
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"benjamin&sharon" wrote in message
. net...

Someone by the name of doc seems to know how to run this card. If so,
can you, or someone, tell me how to set it up to record four tracks at a
time? Allegedly the zs platinum pro can do this, but I need the "audigy
for idiots" guide or whatever, because I don't see how to do it.


I don't have the ZS, but if your card takes 4 inputs (I believe someone
suggested that could be 4 mono), there must be a command on your software
(what are you using?) to arm 4 different mono traciks.

Look in the help file for "recording multiple inputs" or something to that
effect.

I'm assuming you're using some audio/midi software like Cakewalk etc, not
Windows recorder or the like.




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Doc wrote:
"benjamin&sharon" wrote in message
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Someone by the name of doc seems to know how to run this card. If so,
can you, or someone, tell me how to set it up to record four tracks at a
time? Allegedly the zs platinum pro can do this, but I need the "audigy
for idiots" guide or whatever, because I don't see how to do it.



I don't have the ZS, but if your card takes 4 inputs (I believe someone
suggested that could be 4 mono), there must be a command on your software
(what are you using?) to arm 4 different mono traciks.

Look in the help file for "recording multiple inputs" or something to that
effect.

I'm assuming you're using some audio/midi software like Cakewalk etc, not
Windows recorder or the like.



I'm using cakewalk pro 9. In the place where I choose inputs, all I'm
shown is "left SB Audigy Zs Audio"," right SB Audigy Zs Audio" and
"stereo SB Audigy Zs Audio", which to my knowledge is the left and right
together. The box for the card has multiple inputs, including an
optical stereo input, a line/mic, and line in 2, but i can't see where I
can select more than one of those.
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You need software that uses ASIO drivers. I don't know if Cakewalk
does. I know everything by Steinburg does, so Cubasis, Nuendo,
Wavelab, etc. Multi-track recording only available with ASIO drivers,
and in that case I've done more than 4 tracks. Check your cakewalk
manual for ASIO.

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 02:02:59 GMT, benjamin&sharon
wrote:


Someone by the name of doc seems to know how to run this card. If so,
can you, or someone, tell me how to set it up to record four tracks at a
time? Allegedly the zs platinum pro can do this, but I need the "audigy
for idiots" guide or whatever, because I don't see how to do it. I
don't care if two tracks are digital and two are analog, or if it's two
"stereo tracks", but any way you slice it, that is a functionality I
need, and the final test to whether this card lives up to it's
advertisement. If it it does, I will never talk poo poo about
soundblaster again (weel, until the card randomly fries itself or
something). Thanks in advance.

-Benjamin Johnson

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"benjamin&sharon" wrote in message
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I'm using cakewalk pro 9. In the place where I choose inputs, all I'm
shown is "left SB Audigy Zs Audio"," right SB Audigy Zs Audio" and
"stereo SB Audigy Zs Audio", which to my knowledge is the left and right
together. The box for the card has multiple inputs, including an
optical stereo input, a line/mic, and line in 2, but i can't see where I
can select more than one of those.


If you don't find this subject covered in the help files or whatever
documentation, (how to accept multiple inputs) I would definitely direct the
question to Cakewalk's tech support. By e-mail, you have to go to their
website under support. I'm pretty sure they'll have the answer, even if it's
"Cakewalk won't do this". By the standards I've encountered with various
providers, Cakewalk's tech support is pretty good. Unfortunately, Creative's
is among the worst imo.

By the way, do you know for a fact that Audigy ZS will actually assign those
4 inputs to 4 separate tracks? Would seem logical, but just an angle to
investigate. You can try directing the question to Creative, but I wouldn't
bet the farm as to whether you'll get a useful answer, or any answer at all.


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"benjamin&sharon" wrote in message
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Someone by the name of doc seems to know how to run this card. If so,
can you, or someone, tell me how to set it up to record four tracks at a
time? Allegedly the zs platinum pro can do this, but I need the "audigy
for idiots" guide or whatever, because I don't see how to do it. I
don't care if two tracks are digital and two are analog, or if it's two
"stereo tracks", but any way you slice it, that is a functionality I
need, and the final test to whether this card lives up to it's
advertisement. If it it does, I will never talk poo poo about
soundblaster again (weel, until the card randomly fries itself or
something). Thanks in advance.

-Benjamin Johnson


I do not know about this but am guessing it's just more Creative
marketing chicanery. Like whatever card it was some time ago where they lead
buyers to believe it recorded and played back 24/96. Clever wording, can't
recall exactly how they put it. In reality 24/96 was playback only. It just
recorded up to 16 bit, and only up to 48K sample rate. They seem to be
pretty good at deceptive advertising, both on their site and on the boxes in
the store. Not alot of REAL information there. If they would only put as
much effort into product quality... Heh, just had a thought. Maube the CEO
is planning on running for President
Doc is probably correct in his assessment of Creative support. I found
the Creative newsgroups about the same when it came to anything DAW related.
But then their cards aren't really meant for that use. And that was some
years ago, not an enlightening experience so I never wasted the time going
back. Could be different now.
From the tone of this thread I would speculate that, yes indeed, this
card has technically 4 audio inputs. 2 analog line inputs and 2 s/pdif. So
what's new about that? My 7 year old DamnBlaster has that. Problem is that
the Creative mixer never allowed the use of more than one input source at
any one time. So yeah, ya gots 4 inputs. Just can't use 'em all at once.
Then again, I could be wrong. I mean I'm not absolutely certain but seems
like anymore they actually do make a card that records 24/96. Wouldn't count
on the timing being very accurate though.
Final thought before I sign off. You might be able to finagle 4 outputs
using a combination of analog & digital. Maybe that's what you're thinking
about.
--

__________ Steve Wilson


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