.... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do we) you can
go stuff yourselves.

:0)~

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do we) you can
go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Boon

"Sandman" wrote in message
...
... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do we) you
can
go stuff yourselves.

:0)~


I had a good mooch at my friend's house.




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Jim Sanders wrote:

. to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do we) you can
go stuff yourselves.

:0)~










Happy Thanksgiving to all those RAO lurkers and posters still in contact with
reality. You know who you are.





Bruce J. Richman

Sandman wrote:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do we) you can
go stuff yourselves.

:0)~



Happy Thanksgiving to everybody.
Special thanks to the ones who daily bring us some fun with their
incredible stupidity. Thanks to all speaker-builders, lawsuit-bringers
to make RAO so entertaining. ;O)

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do we)
you can go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Yup, growing a brain can be a painful experience.

Liney,

I hope you had the pleasure of a California Chardonnay with your
Thanksgiving turkey, assuming you celebrated the holiday since your
country has copied so much of our culture.

Our dinner was particularly special with the holiday music playing
through our Bose LifeStyle 50 system!

The Big Cheese

Lionel wrote:
Sandman wrote:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do we)
you can
go stuff yourselves.

:0)~



Happy Thanksgiving to everybody.
Special thanks to the ones who daily bring us some fun with their
incredible stupidity. Thanks to all speaker-builders, lawsuit-bringers
to make RAO so entertaining. ;O)

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do we)
you can go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Yup, growing a brain can be a painful experience.

As opposed to already having one and using it to make you look stupid on an
almost daily basis, yes.

Boon

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do we)
you can go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Yup, growing a brain can be a painful experience.

As opposed to already having one and using it to make you look stupid
on an almost daily basis, yes.

Look Phillips, you don't post here daily or anything like it. Whole weeks,
even fortnights go by without you posting here. So you can't be talking
about you making me "look stupid on an almost daily basis".

Nahh, Phillips this is just another one of your fantasies, pedophile or
otherwise. For example, google shows no posts from you for Oct 5 through Oct
19 just to pick of your more recent periods of incarceration or other kind
of Usenet incapacitation.

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do we)
you can go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Yup, growing a brain can be a painful experience.

As opposed to already having one and using it to make you look stupid
on an almost daily basis, yes.

Look Phillips, you don't post here daily or anything like it. Whole weeks,
even fortnights go by without you posting here. So you can't be talking
about you making me "look stupid on an almost daily basis".

I see. You're just trying to salvage whatever's left of your credibility after
I kicked your ass, so I'll give you that one. Instead, I shall say "As opposed
to already having one and using it to make you look stupid over the last five
years."


Nahh, Phillips this is just another one of your fantasies, pedophile or
otherwise. For example, google shows no posts from you for Oct 5 through Oct
19 just to pick of your more recent periods of incarceration or other kind
of Usenet incapacitation.

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's when my
mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care of for my wife's
family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do so.

Let's compare that to you, posting here on RAO on the day of your son's
funeral.

Boon

Marc Phillips said to ****-for-Brains:

Nahh, Phillips this is just another one of your fantasies, pedophile or
otherwise. For example, google shows no posts from you for Oct 5 through Oct
19 just to pick of your more recent periods of incarceration or other kind
of Usenet incapacitation.

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's when my
mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care of for my wife's
family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do so.

Let's compare that to you, posting here on RAO on the day of your son's
funeral.

Arnii is very serious about running his "business" here on Usenet.

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do
we) you can go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Yup, growing a brain can be a painful experience.

As opposed to already having one and using it to make you look
stupid on an almost daily basis, yes.

Look Phillips, you don't post here daily or anything like it. Whole
weeks, even fortnights go by without you posting here. So you can't
be talking about you making me "look stupid on an almost daily
basis".

I see. You're just trying to salvage whatever's left of your
credibility after I kicked your ass, so I'll give you that one.
Instead, I shall say "As opposed to already having one and using it
to make you look stupid over the last five years."


Nahh, Phillips this is just another one of your fantasies, pedophile
or otherwise. For example, google shows no posts from you for Oct 5
through Oct 19 just to pick of your more recent periods of
incarceration or other kind of Usenet incapacitation.

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's
when my mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care of
for my wife's family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do so.

Why don't you point us at an obituary that proves your claim, Phillips.

Let's compare that to you, posting here on RAO on the day of your
son's funeral.

The bottom line Phillips is that some of us have minds big enough to handle
more than one thing at a time, and some of us don't. If you grew yours a
lot, you'd be able to understand what I mean by this.

"Sandman" said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

Same goes from me to all of you reading this!

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:37:46 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do
we) you can go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Yup, growing a brain can be a painful experience.

As opposed to already having one and using it to make you look
stupid on an almost daily basis, yes.

Look Phillips, you don't post here daily or anything like it. Whole
weeks, even fortnights go by without you posting here. So you can't
be talking about you making me "look stupid on an almost daily
basis".

I see. You're just trying to salvage whatever's left of your
credibility after I kicked your ass, so I'll give you that one.
Instead, I shall say "As opposed to already having one and using it
to make you look stupid over the last five years."


Nahh, Phillips this is just another one of your fantasies, pedophile
or otherwise. For example, google shows no posts from you for Oct 5
through Oct 19 just to pick of your more recent periods of
incarceration or other kind of Usenet incapacitation.

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's
when my mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care of
for my wife's family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do so.

Why don't you point us at an obituary that proves your claim, Phillips.

Why would you demand proof of such a mundane claim? It's not
as if he's claiming he was off touring with the Rolling Stones or
climbing Mt. Everest. And what's the big deal about him not posting
for a two-week period, anyway? I once went SIX WHOLE MONTHS without
posting anything on Usenet, while I was on an aircraft carrier in the
middle of the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile, Marc goes away for two weeks,
and you're assuming incarceration??
I've appreciated your help on technical issues here, but where
in the world do you get off asking a man to post proof of a death in
his family, as if he has to justify an absence of ANY length to you or
anyone else?

Scott Gardner



Let's compare that to you, posting here on RAO on the day of your
son's funeral.

The bottom line Phillips is that some of us have minds big enough to handle
more than one thing at a time, and some of us don't. If you grew yours a
lot, you'd be able to understand what I mean by this.

Scott Gardner said to ****-for-Brains:

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's
when my mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care of
for my wife's family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do so.

Why don't you point us at an obituary that proves your claim, Phillips.

Why would you demand proof of such a mundane claim?

Looks like you're homing in on the source of the nonsensical "prove it!"
challenges, at least on RAO.

And what's the big deal about him not posting
for a two-week period, anyway? I once went SIX WHOLE MONTHS without
posting anything on Usenet, while I was on an aircraft carrier in the
middle of the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile, Marc goes away for two weeks,
and you're assuming incarceration??

Arnii the Kroo**** uses Kroo-Logic, a close cousin of the fractured
version of human language he uses (Krooglish). It sort of goes like this
(remember, I am human, so no guarantees of accuracy): A human says
something, but does not "prove" it. Therefore, according to the tenets
of Kroo-Logic, the statement is not "true", which means it is "false",
which means any other possible alternative that pops into Mr. ****'s
head is just as likely to be true. Corollarily, the more fear Mr. ****
has of the human in question, the more likely an especially nasty
alternative is to be "true".

This is a foundation of "the debating trade". Mr. **** imagines that his
activities on Usenet (principally consisting of lies, paranoid
imaginings, more lies, frequent unwarranted personal attacks, and still
more lies) constitute a "trade" that will one day remunerate him.


I've appreciated your help on technical issues here, but where
in the world do you get off asking a man to post proof of a death in
his family, as if he has to justify an absence of ANY length to you or
anyone else?

How dare you question Turdborg while he's in the throes of a "debating
trade" spasm. For that, you've just made Kroo****'s enemies list.

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do
we) you can go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Yup, growing a brain can be a painful experience.

As opposed to already having one and using it to make you look
stupid on an almost daily basis, yes.

Look Phillips, you don't post here daily or anything like it. Whole
weeks, even fortnights go by without you posting here. So you can't
be talking about you making me "look stupid on an almost daily
basis".

I see. You're just trying to salvage whatever's left of your
credibility after I kicked your ass, so I'll give you that one.
Instead, I shall say "As opposed to already having one and using it
to make you look stupid over the last five years."


Nahh, Phillips this is just another one of your fantasies, pedophile
or otherwise. For example, google shows no posts from you for Oct 5
through Oct 19 just to pick of your more recent periods of
incarceration or other kind of Usenet incapacitation.

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's
when my mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care of
for my wife's family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do so.

Why don't you point us at an obituary that proves your claim, Phillips.

Let's compare that to you, posting here on RAO on the day of your
son's funeral.

The bottom line Phillips is that some of us have minds big enough to handle
more than one thing at a time, and some of us don't. If you grew yours a
lot, you'd be able to understand what I mean by this.

Break out the champagne, ****bag. You just hit a new low.

Boon

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
[snip]

Why don't you point us at an obituary that proves your claim, Phillips.

Let's compare that to you, posting here on RAO on the day of your
son's funeral.

Here rests the soul of Arny Krueger, which bit the dust years before his
body gave out.

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Sandman" said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

Same goes from me to all of you reading this!

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

And best wishes to you, Sander.

Bob Morein
Solid State Constituency

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
Sandman wrote:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do we) you
can
go stuff yourselves.

:0)~



Happy Thanksgiving to everybody.
Special thanks to the ones who daily bring us some fun with their
incredible stupidity. Thanks to all speaker-builders, lawsuit-bringers
to make RAO so entertaining. ;O)


What about ME? .

Scott Gardner said:

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's
when my mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care of
for my wife's family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do so.

Why don't you point us at an obituary that proves your claim, Phillips.

Why would you demand proof of such a mundane claim? It's not
as if he's claiming he was off touring with the Rolling Stones or
climbing Mt. Everest. And what's the big deal about him not posting
for a two-week period, anyway? I once went SIX WHOLE MONTHS without
posting anything on Usenet, while I was on an aircraft carrier in the
middle of the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile, Marc goes away for two weeks,
and you're assuming incarceration??
I've appreciated your help on technical issues here, but where
in the world do you get off asking a man to post proof of a death in
his family, as if he has to justify an absence of ANY length to you or
anyone else?

Exactly, Scott, and thank you for your sentiments. Just to give you an idea of
how Arny thinks, if I did supply an obituary, there is no way I could link it
to myself. Arny would merely say, "Where is the proof that this is your
mother-in-law?"

In other words, it would go on and on. This is the length that Arny goes to to
avoid accountability for his words and actions. This is how far Arny goes in
order to avoid admitting he is wrong. This is how far Arny goes in order to
avoid getting caught lying. It's very easy to prove Arny's lies, but it's
impossible to get him to concede. I just caught Arny in about five lies in the
last day, and this is how desperate he is to avoid concession...he wants to see
an obituary! I'm sure he'll want a death certificate next. Can you see me
asking my wife's family, still grieving, for that, just to prove some that some
idiot on the Internet is lying? Of course not! And Arny knows this. There is
never any proof definitive enough for Arny, and he will never have to admit he
is wrong.

It's very sad, but so it is for the life of an Internet geek such as Arny.

Boon

"Scott Gardner" wrote in message

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:37:46 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do
we) you can go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Yup, growing a brain can be a painful experience.

As opposed to already having one and using it to make you look
stupid on an almost daily basis, yes.

Look Phillips, you don't post here daily or anything like it. Whole
weeks, even fortnights go by without you posting here. So you can't
be talking about you making me "look stupid on an almost daily
basis".

I see. You're just trying to salvage whatever's left of your
credibility after I kicked your ass, so I'll give you that one.
Instead, I shall say "As opposed to already having one and using it
to make you look stupid over the last five years."

Nahh, Phillips this is just another one of your fantasies,
pedophile or otherwise. For example, google shows no posts from
you for Oct 5 through Oct 19 just to pick of your more recent
periods of incarceration or other kind of Usenet incapacitation.

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's
when my mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care
of for my wife's family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do
so.

Why don't you point us at an obituary that proves your claim,
Phillips.

Why would you demand proof of such a mundane claim?

Something about Marc's long history of telling convenient, dramatic lies.

It's not
as if he's claiming he was off touring with the Rolling Stones or
climbing Mt. Everest. And what's the big deal about him not posting
for a two-week period, anyway? I once went SIX WHOLE MONTHS without
posting anything on Usenet, while I was on an aircraft carrier in the
middle of the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile, Marc goes away for two weeks,
and you're assuming incarceration??

There's a long history of disputes between Marc and I. Scott, do you often
go around and jump into disputes involving other people?

So Scott, there was something about Marc's claim that he just "kicked my
ass" that you didn't notice?

I've appreciated your help on technical issues here, but where
in the world do you get off asking a man to post proof of a death in
his family, as if he has to justify an absence of ANY length to you or
anyone else?

Notice what Marc tries to turn this "fact" into:

Let's compare that to you, posting here on RAO on the day of your
son's funeral.

IOW, because Marc had to clean up a lot of messes in his wife's family when
his mother died, it somehow reflects on what I did when my son died, some 5
years ago. Hint: our family worked together to resolve a lot of issues so
they all didn't require my 24/7 personal attention.

The bottom line Phillips is that some of us have minds big enough to
handle more than one thing at a time, and some of us don't. If you
grew yours a lot, you'd be able to understand what I mean by this.

I guess you think that Marc's lame attempt to use my son's death against me
is just fine, right Scott?

I see you've made a point of not taking any exception to it or questioning
it in any way. Just normal things you see every day, right?

Mr. Middius said:


I've appreciated your help on technical issues here, but where
in the world do you get off asking a man to post proof of a death in
his family, as if he has to justify an absence of ANY length to you or
anyone else?

How dare you question Turdborg while he's in the throes of a "debating
trade" spasm. For that, you've just made Kroo****'s enemies list.

Actually, Mr. Gardner's situation has shed some light on something that has
been quite obvious for a while. It was difficult and shocking for him to see
Arny act this way, especially since he had been "helpful" on some technical
information in the past. This may go some ways in explaining why people such
as McKelvy or Paul Wagner or any other Kroopologist defend Arny so
vehemently...Arny got 'em a deal on some sort of computer hardware.
It's kind of difficult to condemn someone for being a lying, hypocritical
pedophile when they just got you a killer deal on something. I'm sure Arny
didn't even have to be explicit about repaying the favor on RAO. Mr. Gardner,
it appears, is too smart to fall for Arny's "helpfulness." Many are not.

Boon

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Exactly, Scott, and thank you for your sentiments. Just to give you
an idea of how Arny thinks, if I did supply an obituary, there is no
way I could link it to myself. Arny would merely say, "Where is the
proof that this is your mother-in-law?"

In fact Marc, obituaries often contain the names of sons & daughters in-law.

So, I guess you have to invent another lie to cover your tracks.

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:23:29 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Scott Gardner" wrote in message

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:37:46 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do
we) you can go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Yup, growing a brain can be a painful experience.

As opposed to already having one and using it to make you look
stupid on an almost daily basis, yes.

Look Phillips, you don't post here daily or anything like it. Whole
weeks, even fortnights go by without you posting here. So you can't
be talking about you making me "look stupid on an almost daily
basis".

I see. You're just trying to salvage whatever's left of your
credibility after I kicked your ass, so I'll give you that one.
Instead, I shall say "As opposed to already having one and using it
to make you look stupid over the last five years."

Nahh, Phillips this is just another one of your fantasies,
pedophile or otherwise. For example, google shows no posts from
you for Oct 5 through Oct 19 just to pick of your more recent
periods of incarceration or other kind of Usenet incapacitation.

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's
when my mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care
of for my wife's family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do
so.

Why don't you point us at an obituary that proves your claim,
Phillips.

Why would you demand proof of such a mundane claim?

Something about Marc's long history of telling convenient, dramatic lies.

It's not
as if he's claiming he was off touring with the Rolling Stones or
climbing Mt. Everest. And what's the big deal about him not posting
for a two-week period, anyway? I once went SIX WHOLE MONTHS without
posting anything on Usenet, while I was on an aircraft carrier in the
middle of the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile, Marc goes away for two weeks,
and you're assuming incarceration??

There's a long history of disputes between Marc and I. Scott, do you often
go around and jump into disputes involving other people?


Hey, if you don't want people to throw the "bull**** flag" when you
ask for something like the proof of his mother-in-law's death, don't
post in a public forum.

So Scott, there was something about Marc's claim that he just "kicked my
ass" that you didn't notice?

I've appreciated your help on technical issues here, but where
in the world do you get off asking a man to post proof of a death in
his family, as if he has to justify an absence of ANY length to you or
anyone else?

Notice what Marc tries to turn this "fact" into:

Let's compare that to you, posting here on RAO on the day of your
son's funeral.

IOW, because Marc had to clean up a lot of messes in his wife's family when
his mother died, it somehow reflects on what I did when my son died, some 5
years ago. Hint: our family worked together to resolve a lot of issues so
they all didn't require my 24/7 personal attention.

The bottom line Phillips is that some of us have minds big enough to
handle more than one thing at a time, and some of us don't. If you
grew yours a lot, you'd be able to understand what I mean by this.

I guess you think that Marc's lame attempt to use my son's death against me
is just fine, right Scott?

I see you've made a point of not taking any exception to it or questioning
it in any way. Just normal things you see every day, right?

No, I don't think it was appropriate for him to bring your son's death
into the discussion, but I was so stunned by your request that I
wanted to address that point first.

Scott Gardner

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Exactly, Scott, and thank you for your sentiments. Just to give you
an idea of how Arny thinks, if I did supply an obituary, there is no
way I could link it to myself. Arny would merely say, "Where is the
proof that this is your mother-in-law?"

In fact Marc, obituaries often contain the names of sons & daughters in-law.

Often, but not always.


So, I guess you have to invent another lie to cover your tracks.

In your fantasy world, yes. In the real world, if your clergyman saw this
thread, he would ask you to leave his church.

Boon

On 28 Nov 2003 21:23:54 GMT, (Marc Phillips)
wrote:

Mr. Middius said:


I've appreciated your help on technical issues here, but where
in the world do you get off asking a man to post proof of a death in
his family, as if he has to justify an absence of ANY length to you or
anyone else?

How dare you question Turdborg while he's in the throes of a "debating
trade" spasm. For that, you've just made Kroo****'s enemies list.

Actually, Mr. Gardner's situation has shed some light on something that has
been quite obvious for a while. It was difficult and shocking for him to see
Arny act this way, especially since he had been "helpful" on some technical
information in the past. This may go some ways in explaining why people such
as McKelvy or Paul Wagner or any other Kroopologist defend Arny so
vehemently...Arny got 'em a deal on some sort of computer hardware.
It's kind of difficult to condemn someone for being a lying, hypocritical
pedophile when they just got you a killer deal on something. I'm sure Arny
didn't even have to be explicit about repaying the favor on RAO. Mr. Gardner,
it appears, is too smart to fall for Arny's "helpfulness." Many are not.

Boon

Just wanted to say I'm not choosing sides in this train wreck
of a newsgroup. I've been staying out of most of the threads up to
this point. I only made the comment I did because Krueger's request
for an obituary came so soon after the thread I started about the
foolishness of "proof" on Usenet. It was such a glaring example of
what I've experienced all over Usenet that I jumped in.
Since the concept of "proof" in so untenable on Usenet, I try
to take everything with a grain of salt. Arny's been helpful in
explaining some technical concepts to me, and I thanked him for it.
He made what I think anyone would consider a wildly unreasonable
request of Marc, so I commented on that as well.
I don't have any vested interest in anyone's cause here - and
that's how I like it.

Scott Gardner

Marc Phillips said to ****-for-Brains:

In the real world, if your clergyman saw this
thread, he would ask you to leave his church.

Remember how they used to dunk people to find out if they were
witches? What we need is a modern ordeal to determine if an apparent
human being is actually a soulless automaton that's powered by the
anger and outrage it excites in real humans.

Scott Gardner said:

On 28 Nov 2003 21:23:54 GMT, (Marc Phillips)
wrote:

Mr. Middius said:


I've appreciated your help on technical issues here, but where
in the world do you get off asking a man to post proof of a death in
his family, as if he has to justify an absence of ANY length to you or
anyone else?

How dare you question Turdborg while he's in the throes of a "debating
trade" spasm. For that, you've just made Kroo****'s enemies list.

Actually, Mr. Gardner's situation has shed some light on something that has
been quite obvious for a while. It was difficult and shocking for him to
see
Arny act this way, especially since he had been "helpful" on some technical
information in the past. This may go some ways in explaining why people
such
as McKelvy or Paul Wagner or any other Kroopologist defend Arny so
vehemently...Arny got 'em a deal on some sort of computer hardware.
It's kind of difficult to condemn someone for being a lying, hypocritical
pedophile when they just got you a killer deal on something. I'm sure Arny
didn't even have to be explicit about repaying the favor on RAO. Mr.
Gardner,
it appears, is too smart to fall for Arny's "helpfulness." Many are not.

Boon

Just wanted to say I'm not choosing sides in this train wreck
of a newsgroup. I've been staying out of most of the threads up to
this point. I only made the comment I did because Krueger's request
for an obituary came so soon after the thread I started about the
foolishness of "proof" on Usenet. It was such a glaring example of
what I've experienced all over Usenet that I jumped in.
Since the concept of "proof" in so untenable on Usenet, I try
to take everything with a grain of salt. Arny's been helpful in
explaining some technical concepts to me, and I thanked him for it.
He made what I think anyone would consider a wildly unreasonable
request of Marc, so I commented on that as well.
I don't have any vested interest in anyone's cause here - and
that's how I like it.

I totally respect that, Scott. The mess you're looking at is at least five
years in the making, and I wouldn't want anyone to jump in the middle of it
without knowing at least some of the history. I know, for instance, that you
objected to my bringing up the fact that Arny posted on RAO the day of his
son's funeral. But you should also know that I strenuously objected, both on
RAO and in private e-mails, against people bringing up Nate's death on RAO, for
a long time. Arny, however, twisted my objections into "making horrific
comments about the death of my son." I know you really don't care to know
about this, but it's important that newbies know what kind of person Arny is
before they blindly accept his advice about audio.

Arny is routinely destroyed by real engineers who come in here to see what's
going on. What they find is an Internet geek of questionable experience trying
to pass himself off as an audio expert. They take offense to what Arny is
doing, and he, in turn, calls them liars without proof, and tries to discredit
them. An unknowing newbie might think that because he is so brazen in his
attacks, that he might be right. In reality, the real engineers are so
disgusted with his behavior that they leave RAO forever.

So be careful about Arny's "helpful" advice.

Boon

Mr. Middius said:

Marc Phillips said to ****-for-Brains:

In the real world, if your clergyman saw this
thread, he would ask you to leave his church.

Remember how they used to dunk people to find out if they were
witches? What we need is a modern ordeal to determine if an apparent
human being is actually a soulless automaton that's powered by the
anger and outrage it excites in real humans.

Is Arny's clergyman really named Wick? If it is, I think I'll track him down.

Boon

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do
we) you can go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Yup, growing a brain can be a painful experience.

As opposed to already having one and using it to make you look
stupid on an almost daily basis, yes.

Look Phillips, you don't post here daily or anything like it. Whole
weeks, even fortnights go by without you posting here. So you can't
be talking about you making me "look stupid on an almost daily
basis".

I see. You're just trying to salvage whatever's left of your
credibility after I kicked your ass, so I'll give you that one.
Instead, I shall say "As opposed to already having one and using it
to make you look stupid over the last five years."


Nahh, Phillips this is just another one of your fantasies, pedophile
or otherwise. For example, google shows no posts from you for Oct 5
through Oct 19 just to pick of your more recent periods of
incarceration or other kind of Usenet incapacitation.

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's
when my mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care of
for my wife's family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do so.

Why don't you point us at an obituary that proves your claim, Phillips.

Let's compare that to you, posting here on RAO on the day of your
son's funeral.

The bottom line Phillips is that some of us have minds big enough to
handle
more than one thing at a time, and some of us don't. If you grew yours a
lot, you'd be able to understand what I mean by this.


That response made you look even worse than you already look.
I didn't think that it would be possible.




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Mr. Phillips wrote:


Mr. Middius said:


I've appreciated your help on technical issues here, but where
in the world do you get off asking a man to post proof of a death in
his family, as if he has to justify an absence of ANY length to you or
anyone else?

How dare you question Turdborg while he's in the throes of a "debating
trade" spasm. For that, you've just made Kroo****'s enemies list.

Actually, Mr. Gardner's situation has shed some light on something that has
been quite obvious for a while. It was difficult and shocking for him to see
Arny act this way, especially since he had been "helpful" on some technical
information in the past. This may go some ways in explaining why people such
as McKelvy or Paul Wagner or any other Kroopologist defend Arny so
vehemently...Arny got 'em a deal on some sort of computer hardware.
It's kind of difficult to condemn someone for being a lying, hypocritical
pedophile when they just got you a killer deal on something. I'm sure Arny
didn't even have to be explicit about repaying the favor on RAO. Mr.
Gardner,
it appears, is too smart to fall for Arny's "helpfulness." Many are not.

Boon








Fortunately, there are many others posting on RAO, e.g. Glenn Zelniker, John
Atkinson, Goofball, etc., who appear ready and able to dispense technical
advice when asked without using it as an excuse to engage in a paranoid set of
unprovoked personal insults. Therefore, technical help (if needed or wanted)
can certainly be had with no strings attached.



Bruce J. Richman

Sandman wrote:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

"George Washington, the republic's first president, proclaimed
Nov. 26, 1789, as a day for thanking God for bringing America
through its trials, that an official holiday was marked."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=35828

Amen, eh, 'lil Georgie?


GeoSynch

"Scott Gardner" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:37:46 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Jim said:

... to the few sane people left (and lurking) on RAO.

As for the rest of you turkeys (you know who you are; and so do
we) you can go stuff yourselves.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jim! Today I'm thankful I'm not Arny.

Yup, growing a brain can be a painful experience.

As opposed to already having one and using it to make you look
stupid on an almost daily basis, yes.

Look Phillips, you don't post here daily or anything like it. Whole
weeks, even fortnights go by without you posting here. So you can't
be talking about you making me "look stupid on an almost daily
basis".

I see. You're just trying to salvage whatever's left of your
credibility after I kicked your ass, so I'll give you that one.
Instead, I shall say "As opposed to already having one and using it
to make you look stupid over the last five years."


Nahh, Phillips this is just another one of your fantasies, pedophile
or otherwise. For example, google shows no posts from you for Oct 5
through Oct 19 just to pick of your more recent periods of
incarceration or other kind of Usenet incapacitation.

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's
when my mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care of
for my wife's family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do so.

Why don't you point us at an obituary that proves your claim, Phillips.

Why would you demand proof of such a mundane claim? It's not
as if he's claiming he was off touring with the Rolling Stones or
climbing Mt. Everest. And what's the big deal about him not posting
for a two-week period, anyway? I once went SIX WHOLE MONTHS without
posting anything on Usenet, while I was on an aircraft carrier in the
middle of the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile, Marc goes away for two weeks,
and you're assuming incarceration??
I've appreciated your help on technical issues here, but where
in the world do you get off asking a man to post proof of a death in
his family, as if he has to justify an absence of ANY length to you or
anyone else?

Scott Gardner


The technical term for this is called Kroo****.




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Just wanted to say I'm not choosing sides in this train wreck
of a newsgroup. I've been staying out of most of the threads up to
this point. I only made the comment I did because Krueger's request
for an obituary came so soon after the thread I started about the
foolishness of "proof" on Usenet. It was such a glaring example of
what I've experienced all over Usenet that I jumped in.
Since the concept of "proof" in so untenable on Usenet, I try
to take everything with a grain of salt. Arny's been helpful in
explaining some technical concepts to me, and I thanked him for it.
He made what I think anyone would consider a wildly unreasonable
request of Marc, so I commented on that as well.
I don't have any vested interest in anyone's cause here - and
that's how I like it.

Scott Gardner


BRBR

See what happens if you disagree with him on any audio related topics. He
accused me of being a "widely reported pedophile." Since then he has accused me
of being homeless, jobless and a drug addict.

"Scott Gardner" wrote in message


Just wanted to say I'm not choosing sides in this train wreck
of a newsgroup.

You've been doing a fine job of skewering me every chance you get, Scott.
You also are doing a fine job of overlooking Marc's attacks on me. I'm
wondering what I ever did to harm you badly enough that you're continuing to
assist my enemies.

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Scott Gardner said:

That would be another fantasy of yours. In the real world, that's
when my mother-in-law died, and I had a lot of things to take care of
for my wife's family. In fact, I took a week off of work to do so.

Why don't you point us at an obituary that proves your claim, Phillips.

Why would you demand proof of such a mundane claim? It's not
as if he's claiming he was off touring with the Rolling Stones or
climbing Mt. Everest. And what's the big deal about him not posting
for a two-week period, anyway? I once went SIX WHOLE MONTHS without
posting anything on Usenet, while I was on an aircraft carrier in the
middle of the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile, Marc goes away for two weeks,
and you're assuming incarceration??
I've appreciated your help on technical issues here, but where
in the world do you get off asking a man to post proof of a death in
his family, as if he has to justify an absence of ANY length to you or
anyone else?

Exactly, Scott, and thank you for your sentiments. Just to give you an
idea of
how Arny thinks, if I did supply an obituary, there is no way I could link
it
to myself. Arny would merely say, "Where is the proof that this is your
mother-in-law?"

In other words, it would go on and on. This is the length that Arny goes
to to
avoid accountability for his words and actions. This is how far Arny goes
in
order to avoid admitting he is wrong. This is how far Arny goes in order
to
avoid getting caught lying. It's very easy to prove Arny's lies, but it's
impossible to get him to concede. I just caught Arny in about five lies
in the
last day, and this is how desperate he is to avoid concession...he wants
to see
an obituary! I'm sure he'll want a death certificate next. Can you see
me
asking my wife's family, still grieving, for that, just to prove some that
some
idiot on the Internet is lying? Of course not! And Arny knows this.
There is
never any proof definitive enough for Arny, and he will never have to
admit he
is wrong.


This is why i will not divulge any persoal information to Arny.




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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:15:55 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Scott Gardner" wrote in message


Just wanted to say I'm not choosing sides in this train wreck
of a newsgroup.

You've been doing a fine job of skewering me every chance you get, Scott.
You also are doing a fine job of overlooking Marc's attacks on me. I'm
wondering what I ever did to harm you badly enough that you're continuing to
assist my enemies.


There aren't enough hours in the day for me to "skewer you
every chance I get". In fact, other than the topic of "proof" on
Usenet, what have I said to or about you that you find objectionable?
Most of our communication so far has been regarding what sampling rate
to use for transferring LPs to computer files, and your explanation of
the Nyquist theorem. I thought both of those discussions were civil
and productive.
Also, I'm hardly "assisting your enemies". My interactions
with other people on this newsgroup are not colored by how I or they
feel about you, Arny. Sockpuppet Yustabe appears to be one of your
"enemies", and he and I disagree pretty strongly on what constitutes a
"textbook". That doesn't mean that I like him or don't like him, and
it *certainly* doesn't mean that I like or dislike you by extension.
It's not all about namecalling, cliques and who can sit with whom in
the cafeteria.

Scott Gardner

Marc Phillips said:

Remember how they used to dunk people to find out if they were
witches? What we need is a modern ordeal to determine if an apparent
human being is actually a soulless automaton that's powered by the
anger and outrage it excites in real humans.

Is Arny's clergyman really named Wick? If it is, I think I'll track him down.

http://www.riverviewbaptist.net/about/staff.htm

S888Wheel said:

See what happens if you disagree with him on any audio related topics. He
accused me of being a "widely reported pedophile." Since then he has accused me
of being homeless, jobless and a drug addict.

I think he called you a wife-beater too.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Scott Gardner" wrote in message


Just wanted to say I'm not choosing sides in this train wreck
of a newsgroup.

You've been doing a fine job of skewering me every chance you get, Scott.
You also are doing a fine job of overlooking Marc's attacks on me. I'm
wondering what I ever did to harm you badly enough that you're continuing
to
assist my enemies.



My God!!!!
This is so ridiculous, I first suspected it might be a forgery
but it isn't, this is the 'real' Arny, making an unwarranted
attack against someone who actually beagn with
having some empathy towards the man, and who still considers
himself neutral.

The delusional paranoia fueling his post just stuns me.




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