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Hello my Friends,
I have seen lots of opinions regarding T-Racks on usergroups, from I love it to I hate it, but no one addresses the issue of WHAT happens to the sound wave WHEN it goes through the different processors and the controls are applied. The manual seems to be a bit shallow when it comes to explain the principles and concepts involved with the processors. I am a "know-to" kind of guy. In my line of work, Nuclear Medicine/CT Scan, I've seen through the years many people making mediocre exams. They just push buttons; if you ask them WHY they adjust a parameter, they get upset, they don't know HOW to reason their action. Much less, don't know how to compensate for it when it affects other factors of the exam. I would like to understand T-Racks at the "know-how" level. I want to know how the signal is transformed/modified as it passes through the different components on a conceptual manner. (I got no problems understanding the physics of dynamic modulation.) I work with orchestral music in my free time. I use Logic Pro and plug-ins for my mixes. I use T-racks and The Inspector from Elemental Audio in Waveburner when mastering. I have been reading Bob Katz's book on Mastering and have decided to learn T-Racks in and out. When I ask some of my friends, they just show me how "well" they would do it. Yeah right... Could some of you wizards out there, please, help me to understand: a) The correct steps/approach in processing the signal through Comp/Lim/Clip b) The Effect main knobs have on the signal Any comment and assistance will be deeply appreciated. Thanks in advance my friends. Merry Christmas. Rikardo Mr.Composer |
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![]() "Mr.Composer" wrote in message oups.com... .. I would like to understand T-Racks at the "know-how" level. I want to know how the signal is transformed/modified as it passes through the different components on a conceptual manner. (I got no problems understanding the physics of dynamic modulation.) There is little to learn about T-Racks in itself other than it's particular routing and methodology. What *is* important to learn and understand is the physics and musical implications of EQ and dynamics processing. geoff |
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![]() Mr.Composer wrote: I have seen lots of opinions regarding T-Racks on usergroups, from I love it to I hate it That's the way it is in audio, and restaurants, and movies, and . . . . but no one addresses the issue of WHAT happens to the sound wave WHEN it goes through the different processors and the controls are applied. The manual seems to be a bit shallow when it comes to explain the principles and concepts involved with the processors. You won't usually find a tutorial on what a compressor is when you buy a compressor, maybe just a little, but what it (and any other signal processor) does depends on what's going into it. A compressor reduces dynamic range by reducing the gain as the input level increases. As to what that DOES to the sound depends on the sound and how you apply the process. It can make it louder by making it denser, it can make it sound duller by chopping off initial transients, it can make it sound punchier by leaving the initial transient and reducing the level of everything beyond the attack so the attack sounds relatively louder. It can do many things. A book will help you to understand the principles, but you really can't know what's going to happen unitl you try. Could some of you wizards out there, please, help me to understand: a) The correct steps/approach in processing the signal through Comp/Lim/Clip b) The Effect main knobs have on the signal I wrote an article about compression in Recording Magazine (December 96) and most of it I think is still on the Manley Labs web site. You might see if you can find it from http://www.maneylabs.com |
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Geoff@home wrote:
"Mr.Composer" wrote in message roups.com... I would like to understand T-Racks at the "know-how" level. I want to know how the signal is transformed/modified as it passes through the different components on a conceptual manner. (I got no problems understanding the physics of dynamic modulation.) There is little to learn about T-Racks in itself other than it's particular routing and methodology. What *is* important to learn and understand is the physics and musical implications of EQ and dynamics processing. And for that, I don't know how you'd go about learning that with the emulated systems. I think I learned an awful lot of it from reading the principles of operation in old Orban manuals, to be honest. That and abusing Orban products of various sorts. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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I have seen lots of opinions regarding T-Racks on usergroups, from I
love it to I hate it, but no one addresses the issue of WHAT happens to the sound wave WHEN it goes through the different processors and the controls are applied. The manual seems to be a bit shallow when it comes to explain the principles and concepts involved with the processors. The properties of EQ's, compressors, limiters, and saturation are too easily found with a web search, so I'll leave that to you. A big part of the appeal of T-Racks is the under-the-hood harmonics processing. It's emulating tubes at various stages, which is for the mostpart coloration by adding harmonics. A "tube harmonics" search should fetch plenty of info. My take on T-Racks is that certain components do certain tasks very well, but for example I'd rather have a compressor plug-in and a tube harmonics plug-in, rather than blindly apply harmonics. I think this is where the industry is heading, the end of magical misuse of analog gear, the deconstruction of coloration into its various processes, and tools to address each process at a fundamental level. The only T-Racks process that does only what it says is the Soft Clipper, which is a saturator and peak limiter that I find very handy. |
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![]() Thank you all, my friends, for all the assistance and your time. I have followed everyone's suggestions and visited suggested sites. Thanks. There are some knobs, still, a bit confussing to me in the Limiter and Clipper: a) Overload and Threshold - Limiter section b) Saturation lights - Clipper Are these the the ones related to the harmonic saturation/coloration that Zigakly spoke about? Do you guys think could elaborate on that? Thanks Rikardo |
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There are some knobs, still, a bit confussing to me in the Limiter and
Clipper: a) Overload and Threshold - Limiter section Threshold - the point at which the limiter starts to attenuate the signal Overload - I suspect a better word for this is make-up, a gain stage after the limiter to regain some of what was attenuated, perhaps with a saturation function. Both aspects are redundant with the Soft Clipper present. b) Saturation lights - Clipper This indicates that saturation is being applied. I treat it as 50% saturation, meaning that if the incoming signal does not exceed 0dB, at the default -6dB saturation setting the signal can never exceed -3dB, so 3dB of make-up gain can be added afterwards. However we're left in the dark with no metering except the output. Are these the the ones related to the harmonic saturation/coloration that Zigakly spoke about? No, there are absolutely no indicators or controls related to the coloration. That's why I called it blind, and addressing those issues with at least a modicum of control is how I expect the industry will progress. Take a look at Voxengo plugs, for example, www.voxengo.com |
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