Maybe I need to start hangin' here and extolling the virtues and
attributes of Bose.

Seems like I've been successful in running off most of the trolls,
misfits, and psychos out of alt.home.theater-misc, so I'll give it a
shot here. You really need my services here.

Seems like most of the misfits that post here talk about non-audio or
non-A/V products. You dick heads need to go somewhere else. I mean, do
you think Shrub even listens to an audiophool system?

Amar has installed multiple sets of 901' and Lifestyle 50 systems
throughout Shrub's and the VP's quarters as well as on the Air Force One
planes. So if it's good enough for our President it should sure as hell
be good enough for you!

Bose, Better Sound Through Better Research

The Big Cheese

The Big Cheese wrote in message ...
Maybe I need to start hangin' here and extolling the virtues and
attributes of Bose.

Seems like I've been successful in running off most of the trolls,
misfits, and psychos out of alt.home.theater-misc, so I'll give it a
shot here. You really need my services here.

Seems like most of the misfits that post here talk about non-audio or
non-A/V products. You dick heads need to go somewhere else. I mean, do
you think Shrub even listens to an audiophool system?

Amar has installed multiple sets of 901' and Lifestyle 50 systems
throughout Shrub's and the VP's quarters as well as on the Air Force One
planes. So if it's good enough for our President it should sure as hell
be good enough for you!

Bose, Better Sound Through Better Research



A good place to start would be to tell us the measured performance of
Bose products: What are the frequency response curves? What digital
"tricks" does Bose do to get accurate sound from small boxs? What is
the maximum undistorted sound power level? What is the mean time
between failure. Etc.

I realise you choose the opinion forum, but you are allowed to present
facts here.

Bob Stanton

"The Big Cheese" wrote in message
...
Maybe I need to start hangin' here and extolling the virtues and
attributes of Bose.

Seems like I've been successful in running off most of the trolls,
misfits, and psychos out of alt.home.theater-misc, so I'll give it a
shot here. You really need my services here.

Seems like most of the misfits that post here talk about non-audio or
non-A/V products. You dick heads need to go somewhere else. I mean, do
you think Shrub even listens to an audiophool system?

Cheese,
I've been praying for someone to replace Howard Ferstler.

Thank you for reaffirming my faith in the almighty.

My first request is -- I hope this doesn't sound too contradictory --
could you please try to antagonize both the tweakos, and sliderule jockeys,
while maintaining an allegedly self-consistent position? Keeps the number of
sockpuppets to the minimum.

It's nice to have a blimp to hover over us all.

FACTS:

1. Bose is the number one speaker brand in the world.

2. Bose sell more speakers than all the other speaker companies combined.

3. If Bose were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not happened.

4. Bose has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

5. Therefore Bose is the best speaker.


Bob-Stanton wrote:

I realise you choose the opinion forum, but you are allowed to present
facts here.

Bob Stanton

Robert, you sound like my kind of person.

I really like ****ing off all the tweakos and misfits who take pleasure
in spending $25,000 on a set of speaker cables and yet cannot hear the
difference in a DBT test.

The agony of defeat probably drove Steve Zipster to an early grave, for
example. Poor little Yamaha integrated kicked big ol' Pass's ass!

The boy probably would have never been able to pick out Bose 901's from
Apogees in a truly blind ABT.

It's nice to be wanted.

The Big Cheese

Robert Morein wrote:

Cheese,
I've been praying for someone to replace Howard Ferstler.

Thank you for reaffirming my faith in the almighty.

My first request is -- I hope this doesn't sound too contradictory --
could you please try to antagonize both the tweakos, and sliderule jockeys,
while maintaining an allegedly self-consistent position? Keeps the number of
sockpuppets to the minimum.

It's nice to have a blimp to hover over us all.

The Big Cheese a écrit :
FACTS:

FACTS :

1. Bose is the number one speaker brand in the world.

G. W. Bush is the president of 280,000,000 Americans

2. Bose sell more speakers than all the other speaker companies combined.

G. W. Bush is the president of 280,000,000 Americans

3. If Bose were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not
happened.

G. W. Bush is the president of 280,000,000 Americans

4. Bose has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

G. W. Bush is the president of 280,000,000 Americans

5. Therefore Bose is the best speaker.

Therefore G. W. Bush is an asshole.

--
"Keep the bugs off your glass and the bears off your ass"
Bad Plus

Monsieur Looneyel,

From your email address, it appears you are just a french toadie.

Chirac is an even bigger asshole and if he were educated, he would be
able to speak the King's English, but he cannot as he is nothing more
than an ignorant french country bumpkin.

G.W. Bush is multilingual unlike your miserable excrement of a president.

Now, can you say "adios" to the group and just like go away unless you
have something relevant regarding audio to post?

Anyway, in this country we like to eat frogs, but I suspect you're all
asshole and no legs.

The Big Cheese

Lionel wrote:
The Big Cheese a écrit :

FACTS:

FACTS :

1. Bose is the number one speaker brand in the world.

G. W. Bush is the president of 280,000,000 Americans

2. Bose sell more speakers than all the other speaker companies combined.

G. W. Bush is the president of 280,000,000 Americans

3. If Bose were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not
happened.

G. W. Bush is the president of 280,000,000 Americans

4. Bose has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

G. W. Bush is the president of 280,000,000 Americans

5. Therefore Bose is the best speaker.

Therefore G. W. Bush is an asshole.

--
"Keep the bugs off your glass and the bears off your ass"
Bad Plus

Bob-Stanton wrote:

The Big Cheese wrote in message ...

Maybe I need to start hangin' here and extolling the virtues and
attributes of Bose.

Seems like I've been successful in running off most of the trolls,
misfits, and psychos out of alt.home.theater-misc, so I'll give it a
shot here. You really need my services here.

Oh man - talk about the impossible dream.

Anything is possible if you want it badly enough.

The Big Cheese

Joseph Oberlander wrote:
Bob-Stanton wrote:

The Big Cheese wrote in message
...

Maybe I need to start hangin' here and extolling the virtues and
attributes of Bose.

Seems like I've been successful in running off most of the trolls,
misfits, and psychos out of alt.home.theater-misc, so I'll give it a
shot here. You really need my services here.


Oh man - talk about the impossible dream.

FACTS:

1. McDonalds is the number one hamburger brand in the world.

2. McDonalds sell more hamburgers than all the other hamburger companies
combined.

3. If McDonalds were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not
happened.

4. McDonalds has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

5. Therefore McDonalds is the best hamburger.


I had McDonalds today.... in my car.....

Know what I'm talkin' about?

That's right..... I'm ignorant.

G.W. Bush is multilingual.............



Does he plan to learn English?

"The Big Cheese" wrote in message


FACTS:

1. Bose is the number one speaker brand in the world.

Does that mean that all of their speakers are the best in their product
category?

2. Bose sell more speakers than all the other speaker companies
combined.

I'd like to see proof of that. They're not the biggest consumer electronics
company, and they have lots of very large competitors. When one says "all
other speaker companies combined", they are saying quite a lot.

3. If Bose were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not
happened.

Doesn't "Not bad" sound a little like damning with faint praise? What about
people who want something better than "not bad"?

4. Bose has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

I'd like to see proof of that.

5. Therefore Bose is the best speaker.

I find it interesting that nowhere did you discuss sound quality, technical
performance, or value for money spent.

On balance, I've never said that Bose were the dregs of the earth and the
worst speaker known to man. It is also quite clear to me that some of their
products don't sound very good, especially given the price. Bose is
well-known for doing things that appeal to the mass market, that also
sharply compromise sound quality.

Is there a reason why you're going around all the major forums asking the
same question?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...e&pagenumber=1

There's some excellent answers to your questions about Bose... these are
your postings, correct?

Just wondering why you're extolling the virtues here but accepting Bose's
faults at AVSforum...

"The Big Cheese" wrote in message
...
Maybe I need to start hangin' here and extolling the virtues and
attributes of Bose.

Seems like I've been successful in running off most of the trolls,
misfits, and psychos out of alt.home.theater-misc, so I'll give it a
shot here. You really need my services here.

Seems like most of the misfits that post here talk about non-audio or
non-A/V products. You dick heads need to go somewhere else. I mean, do
you think Shrub even listens to an audiophool system?

Amar has installed multiple sets of 901' and Lifestyle 50 systems
throughout Shrub's and the VP's quarters as well as on the Air Force One
planes. So if it's good enough for our President it should sure as hell
be good enough for you!

Bose, Better Sound Through Better Research

The Big Cheese

The Big Cheese Shelleyed:

FACTS:

1. Bose is the number one speaker brand in the world.

What do you think they use to pipe in the hip-hop at Mickey D's?

2. Bose sell more speakers than all the other speaker companies combined.

Nature made more insects than all the other animals in the animal
kingdom combined.

3. If Bose were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not happened.

Some human beings are bad, and yet we keep making them. Sounds
contradictory.

4. Bose has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

Ford has more repeat car and truck buyers than any other car company.
You do the math.

5. Therefore Bose is the best speaker.

So Bwian McNutJob has been telling the truth? Amazing.

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:36:25 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"The Big Cheese" wrote in message


FACTS:

1. Bose is the number one speaker brand in the world.

Does that mean that all of their speakers are the best in their product
category?

2. Bose sell more speakers than all the other speaker companies
combined.

I'd like to see proof of that. They're not the biggest consumer electronics
company, and they have lots of very large competitors. When one says "all
other speaker companies combined", they are saying quite a lot.

3. If Bose were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not
happened.

Doesn't "Not bad" sound a little like damning with faint praise? What about
people who want something better than "not bad"?

4. Bose has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

I'd like to see proof of that.

5. Therefore Bose is the best speaker.

I find it interesting that nowhere did you discuss sound quality, technical
performance, or value for money spent.

On balance, I've never said that Bose were the dregs of the earth and the
worst speaker known to man. It is also quite clear to me that some of their
products don't sound very good, especially given the price. Bose is
well-known for doing things that appeal to the mass market, that also
sharply compromise sound quality.

Sucker!

Tor b, you are much too hard on yourself: Lighten up!

You made an informed choice and picked what you wanted.

You are NOT ignorant.

The Big Cheese

tor b wrote:
FACTS:

1. McDonalds is the number one hamburger brand in the world.

2. McDonalds sell more hamburgers than all the other hamburger companies
combined.

3. If McDonalds were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not
happened.

4. McDonalds has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

5. Therefore McDonalds is the best hamburger.


I had McDonalds today.... in my car.....

Know what I'm talkin' about?

That's right..... I'm ignorant.

He speaks Texan: It's more expressive than English.

Now talk about audio, not politics. This is not a political usenet group.

The Big Cheese

tor b wrote:
G.W. Bush is multilingual.............




Does he plan to learn English?

Not everyone likes the best.

Not everyone drive a Toyota that never breaks.

Some people choose to not get vaccinations for diseases that can kill
them.

Life is full of people who make bad choices, like those to pass on
buying Bose speakers. I can't save everyone from making a bad choice.

The Big Cheese

Jeffrey Chang wrote:
Is there a reason why you're going around all the major forums asking the
same question?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...e&pagenumber=1

There's some excellent answers to your questions about Bose... these are
your postings, correct?

Just wondering why you're extolling the virtues here but accepting Bose's
faults at AVSforum...

Middiot writes:

George M. Middius wrote:

The Big Cheese Shelleyed:


FACTS:

1. Bose is the number one speaker brand in the world.


What do you think they use to pipe in the hip-hop at Mickey D's?

So what's the relevance here?



2. Bose sell more speakers than all the other speaker companies combined.


Nature made more insects than all the other animals in the animal
kingdom combined.


Yes, and you're one of the less advanced insects posting here.


3. If Bose were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not happened.


Some human beings are bad, and yet we keep making them. Sounds
contradictory.


Darwin's theory works, and the bad one eventually go away. Works the
same way in the marketplace, where the good ones, like Bose, just keep
growing and taking market share away from the bad one.


4. Bose has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.


Ford has more repeat car and truck buyers than any other car company.
You do the math.


Wrong. GM has more repeat customers than Ford. Look for Ford to be
sold or broken up in less than 3 years.


5. Therefore Bose is the best speaker.


So Bwian McNutJob has been telling the truth? Amazing.



Bwian is well, unique - Nothing quite like it exists on this planet.

In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:

Maybe I need to start hangin' here and extolling the virtues and
attributes of Bose.


I furgot ta send your share of the meds. Sorrie.

In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:

Monsieur Looneyel,

From your email address, it appears you are just a french toadie.



R u a ****? I is a ****. we are awl ****s. yipyipyipalooloo!

In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:

He speaks Texan: It's more expressive than English.



What do u uze to pollish yer boots?

In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:

Tor b, you are much too hard on yourself: Lighten up!


U make me feel smart. U'r a **** too.

In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:

Middiot writes:

George M. Middius wrote:

The Big Cheese Shelleyed:



doo u drive a Kadillac, ****?

In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:

Robert, you sound like my kind of person.


If you looke on your shoo and it's not mud, what iz it? only a ****
finds out by taste testing with your tung.

In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:

Not everyone likes the best.


U don't get payed for posts, ****. Arny has been lying to U.

tor b wrote:

FACTS:

1. McDonalds is the number one hamburger brand in the world.

2. McDonalds sell more hamburgers than all the other hamburger companies
combined.

3. If McDonalds were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not
happened.

4. McDonalds has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

5. Therefore McDonalds is the best hamburger.

Bad logic. 1+2+3+4 (not equal sign) 5 in this case. Quantity and
low price are not equivalent to quality.

Mr Cheese, I bet you couldn't tell allot of difference in a level matched
DBT between a £4000 Bose system and a cheap £400 Sony rig.
So is the Bose system worth £3600 more?, if you think it is explain how it's
worth the extra amount. just like spending money on an overpriced and hyped
up speaker cable or interconnect with a fancy name stuck on it. If the
majority of the public fritter their money away on marketing hype and
designer names as your statistics prove then IMO this has become a very sad
world indeed.

Lets hope the future generations are blessed with more common sense.


"The Big Cheese" wrote in message
...
Not everyone likes the best.

Not everyone drive a Toyota that never breaks.

Some people choose to not get vaccinations for diseases that can kill
them.

Life is full of people who make bad choices, like those to pass on
buying Bose speakers. I can't save everyone from making a bad choice.

The Big Cheese

Jeffrey Chang wrote:
Is there a reason why you're going around all the major forums asking
the
same question?


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...e&pagenumber=1

There's some excellent answers to your questions about Bose... these are
your postings, correct?

Just wondering why you're extolling the virtues here but accepting
Bose's
faults at AVSforum...

"The Big Cheese" wrote in message
...
Middiot writes:

snip


Darwin's theory works, and the bad one eventually go away. Works the
same way in the marketplace, where the good ones, like Bose, just keep
growing and taking market share away from the bad one.

"Bad money crowds out good." -- Gresham's Law.
The audio variant: mpeg crowds out PCM.

4. Bose has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

Wrong. Crack has more repeat customers.

Ford has more repeat car and truck buyers than any other car company.
You do the math.


Wrong. GM has more repeat customers than Ford. Look for Ford to be
sold or broken up in less than 3 years.


5. Therefore Bose is the best speaker.

Cheese,
A little sublety would go a long way here. The hardest thing to argue
against is something that is almost true. For example, if you were to say,
"Bose makes the best speakers in the under-$300 class", or "The Bose 901"
remains as remarkable today as when it was introduce 90 years ago", a rapid
rise in blood pressure would be perceptible among many of the denizens here.

Personally, I've always found it remarkable that Radio Shack purchased
manufacturing rights to one of the most remarkable tweeters in the world,
the Linaeum, and managed to bury it, partly by adhering to Bose construction
techniques in any version larger than 5 inches.

In article , says...

Amar has installed multiple sets of 901' and Lifestyle 50 systems
throughout Shrub's and the VP's quarters as well as on the Air Force One
planes. So if it's good enough for our President it should sure as hell
be good enough for you!

Maybe that bose noise is to blame for all the bone headed decisions the
president has been making. Not to mention his cabinet too.
-------------
Alex

In article , says...

FACTS:
1. Bose is the number one speaker brand in the world.

Number one advertising brand. No argument there.

2. Bose sell more speakers than all the other speaker companies combined.

I doubt it. I'm sure the guys who make computer speakers, which of
comparable quality to bose, sell more speakers than bose.

3. If Bose were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not happened.

I've got a bridge to sell you if you believe that. bose advertises more
than anyone else. that is why they sell as many as they do.

4. Bose has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

Based on raw numbers or percentages?

5. Therefore Bose is the best speaker.

The real question is best at what? It certainly isn't sound reproduction.
Ask their ad agency and they will say they are the best spenders.
-----------
Alex

In article ,
says...
FACTS:
1. McDonalds is the number one hamburger brand in the world.
2. McDonalds sell more hamburgers than all the other hamburger companies
combined.
3. If McDonalds were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not
happened.
4. McDonalds has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.
5. Therefore McDonalds is the best hamburger.

At least with McD's quality is comensurate with price. Something that
can't be said about bose.
-------------
Alex

I think you're on to something.... It's only taxpayer dollars, why not
spend the extra cash. Who cares if the dumbass couldn't tell the difference
between a woofer and a frickin ham sandwich.


"Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

Amar has installed multiple sets of 901' and Lifestyle 50 systems
throughout Shrub's and the VP's quarters as well as on the Air Force One
planes. So if it's good enough for our President it should sure as hell
be good enough for you!

Maybe that bose noise is to blame for all the bone headed decisions the
president has been making. Not to mention his cabinet too.
-------------
Alex

The Big Cheese wrote in message ...
FACTS:

1. Bose is the number one speaker brand in the world.

2. Bose sell more speakers than all the other speaker companies combined.

3. If Bose were bad, people would quit buying them. This has not happened.

4. Bose has more repeat customers than any other brand or company.

5. Therefore Bose is the best speaker.



That is a good start, but you've only told us some things we already
know. Do you have any other facts about Bose? Perhaps something
interesting, or useful? Some technical information?

I'm disappointed, I thought you were a Bose insider, but you seem to
know nothing.


Bob Stanton

P.S. You conclusion (line 5) doesn't necessarly follow from 1 - 4.

Alex Rodriguez wrote:

In article , says...


Amar has installed multiple sets of 901' and Lifestyle 50 systems
throughout Shrub's and the VP's quarters as well as on the Air Force One
planes. So if it's good enough for our President it should sure as hell
be good enough for you!


Maybe that bose noise is to blame for all the bone headed decisions the
president has been making. Not to mention his cabinet too.

Actually, Bose is made to do exactly what it's supposed to do.

I went into their store the other day at the mall and realized that he
was a brilliant, if misguided engineer. They are artificially NOT
accurate and boost the upper-ranges to compensate for really noisy
environments like malls and vehicles. They sould acceptable in those
environments due to the 50-70dbdb or more crud that drowns out the
upper midrange.

They are made to demo well in their Bose stores and simmilar outlets.
Nothing else.

Get them home, though, and they sound like crap - distorted in
a quiet environment as they are anything but accurate or flat-response.

You are correct, of course, Deep Goat Boy: The meds will better help
you appreciate the truly superb sound of Bose speakers.

Please start them as soon as possible. Just check your in-box for lots
of offers. Losers like you always get more spam than real email.

The Big Cheese

Deep Ghoti wrote:
In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:


Maybe I need to start hangin' here and extolling the virtues and
attributes of Bose.



I furgot ta send your share of the meds. Sorrie.

Deep Goat Boy,

In case you haven't figured it out, all the frogs are ****s according to
the non-audio posters on this group.

So lets get back to audio and forget the politics - There's other groups
for that, Goat Boy.

The Big Cheese

Deep Ghoti wrote:
In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:


Monsieur Looneyel,

From your email address, it appears you are just a french toadie.




R u a ****? I is a ****. we are awl ****s. yipyipyipalooloo!

Deep Goat Boy,

I use the snot that drips from your big nose to polish my boots after
I've beaten the pure livin' **** out of ya'!

I really like it when you use your tongue to spit shine my boots.

The clean and polished boots really help my Bose speakers sound better.

If I need a tube trap to help the bass resonse, I just kick your fat ass
into the appropriate location in my listening room.

The Big Cheese

Deep Ghoti wrote:
In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:


He speaks Texan: It's more expressive than English.




What do u uze to pollish yer boots?

Hey Goat Boy,

I think you must be a hermaphrodite?

Tell us the truth, Goat Boy.

Can you really **** yourself?

Do you enjoy it?

Is it fun?

The Big Cheese

Deep Ghoti wrote:
In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:


Tor b, you are much too hard on yourself: Lighten up!



U make me feel smart. U'r a **** too.

Hey Goat Boy,

I don't need to drive when I have you to carry me everywhere I need to
go on your fat ass!

The Big Cheese

Deep Ghoti wrote:
In message ,
The Big Cheese wrote:


Middiot writes:

George M. Middius wrote:

The Big Cheese Shelleyed:




doo u drive a Kadillac, ****?