Little Lili (The man *with* a country but without a clue) a ecrit:

Ok, my sweet guinea-pig nothing but "happy dreams".
I will be your nightmare, your torments.

And so, we conclude today's international medley of Lionelle's favorite
patriotic tunes with a final stop in the Middle East for Lionelle's version of
the Israeli National Anthem, *Hatikva*.

For those intent on singing along with this heartfelt song, below is a link
where you may find the music.The fifth one down (organ - quelle coincidence)
works best, and matches the words note for note:

http://www.science.co.il/Israel-anthem.asp

*Hatikva* translates as *The Hope*

And thus, for Lionelle we have:

*The Dope*

We don't like the Hebrews
They have too much dough
We'll arm the Muslims
That's the way to go

Though we got ****ed by Germans
Now we are allied
Marching together
Frankenstein and Bride

We despise all US policy
Ruling Europe, that's our destiny
But if we froggies get into a jam
You will soon see us kissing
Up to Uncle Sam
And when we froggies get into a jam
We will soon be kissing
Up to Uncle Sam


Lionelle le petit (kiss kiss!)


Thank you. Thank you very much
Elvis has left the building. . .

Le Lionellaise a écrit :
Little Lili (The man *with* a country but without a clue) a ecrit:


Ok, my sweet guinea-pig nothing but "happy dreams".
I will be your nightmare, your torments.


And so, we conclude today's international medley of Lionelle's favorite
patriotic tunes with a final stop in the Middle East for Lionelle's version of
the Israeli National Anthem, *Hatikva*.

For those intent on singing along with this heartfelt song, below is a link
where you may find the music.The fifth one down (organ - quelle coincidence)
works best, and matches the words note for note:

http://www.science.co.il/Israel-anthem.asp

*Hatikva* translates as *The Hope*

And thus, for Lionelle we have:

*The Dope*

We don't like the Hebrews
They have too much dough
We'll arm the Muslims
That's the way to go

Though we got ****ed by Germans
Now we are allied
Marching together
Frankenstein and Bride

We despise all US policy
Ruling Europe, that's our destiny
But if we froggies get into a jam
You will soon see us kissing
Up to Uncle Sam
And when we froggies get into a jam
We will soon be kissing
Up to Uncle Sam


Lionelle le petit (kiss kiss!)


Thank you. Thank you very much
Elvis has left the building. . .


Less funny because it badly smells "hard nationalism".
It would be better if our little "guéguerre" stay strictly around
personal habits, moral and manners.
The risk is to see the game wildly escape to racism and xenophobia.
From this point, and considering international context, I sincerely
find that the choice of the last hymn has been badly done.
I sincerely believe that it's nothing else but a mistake.

See you tomorrow,
Lionel

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
[snip]

Less funny because it badly smells "hard nationalism".
It would be better if our little "guéguerre" stay strictly around
personal habits, moral and manners.
The risk is to see the game wildly escape to racism and xenophobia.
From this point, and considering international context, I sincerely
find that the choice of the last hymn has been badly done.
I sincerely believe that it's nothing else but a mistake.

See you tomorrow,
Lionel

Lionel,
This is the hardest thing about this group. Your opponent will use any
means to dig under your skin. For example, the allegations that Arny is a
child molester, or references to his dead son, etc.
Because your attacker has no scruples, your only defense is to ignore
him entirely.
Bob

Bobo, you finished your nap. How nice for you.

This is the hardest thing about this group. Your opponent will use any
means to dig under your skin. For example, the allegations that Arny is a
child molester, or references to his dead son, etc.

Boy, are you stupid. Krooger posted his sex-with-children stories
himself. The only thing we don't know is if he's already guilty or
still in the planning stage. As for Dead Nate, boy are you stupid.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. Get a clue already.

Bob Morein a écrit :
"Lionel" wrote in message
...
[snip]

Less funny because it badly smells "hard nationalism".
It would be better if our little "guéguerre" stay strictly around
personal habits, moral and manners.
The risk is to see the game wildly escape to racism and xenophobia.
From this point, and considering international context, I sincerely
find that the choice of the last hymn has been badly done.
I sincerely believe that it's nothing else but a mistake.

See you tomorrow,
Lionel


Lionel,
This is the hardest thing about this group. Your opponent will use any
means to dig under your skin. For example, the allegations that Arny is a
child molester, or references to his dead son, etc.
Because your attacker has no scruples, your only defense is to ignore
him entirely.
Bob



Thank Bob for your kind advices.

I don't mind, I'm just a little bit desappointed. Up to now his efforts
to be funny required time and imagination and so, need to be
recompensed. Now he took the "easy way", the rank stupidity of
nationality and religion.

As you suggested me before I give you this phrase from André Malraux who
said by the early 60s :
"Le XXI siècle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas"
approx.translated : XXIst century will be religious or will not be.
Visionary, no ?

dave weil a écrit :
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:53:56 -0400, "Bob Morein"
wrote:


"Lionel" wrote in message
...
[snip]

Less funny because it badly smells "hard nationalism".
It would be better if our little "guéguerre" stay strictly around
personal habits, moral and manners.
The risk is to see the game wildly escape to racism and xenophobia.
From this point, and considering international context, I sincerely
find that the choice of the last hymn has been badly done.
I sincerely believe that it's nothing else but a mistake.

See you tomorrow,
Lionel


Lionel,
This is the hardest thing about this group. Your opponent will use any
means to dig under your skin. For example, the allegations that Arny is a
child molester, or references to his dead son, etc.
Because your attacker has no scruples, your only defense is to ignore
him entirely.
Bob


Is that what you recommend that Greg do with you?


I'm not agree Dave.
Ok, you are the "good boy" here. I'm sure Greg found what he was
*expressly* looking for. Nothing else, nothing less.

George M. Middius a écrit :

Bobo, you finished your nap. How nice for you.


This is the hardest thing about this group. Your opponent will use any
means to dig under your skin. For example, the allegations that Arny is a
child molester, or references to his dead son, etc.


Boy, are you stupid. Krooger posted his sex-with-children stories
himself. The only thing we don't know is if he's already guilty or
still in the planning stage. As for Dead Nate, boy are you stupid.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. Get a clue already.


La Georgetta, Divà mia.
Fratelli amorosi del bel' canto, Georgetta va a cantare una bella
cansone para tuti.
Silenzio per favore !

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
Bob Morein a écrit :
"Lionel" wrote in message
...
[snip]

Less funny because it badly smells "hard nationalism".
It would be better if our little "guéguerre" stay strictly around
personal habits, moral and manners.
The risk is to see the game wildly escape to racism and xenophobia.
From this point, and considering international context, I sincerely
find that the choice of the last hymn has been badly done.
I sincerely believe that it's nothing else but a mistake.

See you tomorrow,
Lionel


Lionel,
This is the hardest thing about this group. Your opponent will use
any
means to dig under your skin. For example, the allegations that Arny is
a
child molester, or references to his dead son, etc.
Because your attacker has no scruples, your only defense is to
ignore
him entirely.
Bob



Thank Bob for your kind advices.

I don't mind, I'm just a little bit desappointed. Up to now his efforts
to be funny required time and imagination and so, need to be
recompensed. Now he took the "easy way", the rank stupidity of
nationality and religion.

As you suggested me before I give you this phrase from André Malraux who
said by the early 60s :
"Le XXI siècle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas"
approx.translated : XXIst century will be religious or will not be.
Visionary, no ?

Interesting, but I am afraid religion is more the cause of horror than
salvation.

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:53:56 -0400, "Bob Morein"
[snip]

Is that what you recommend that Greg do with you?

It would be one step in the maturation of his character to do so.

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
Le Lionellaise a écrit :

We don't like the Hebrews
They have too much dough
We'll arm the Muslims
That's the way to go

Good one. Just permit me to correct minor anomalies:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - a member of the American House of
Representatives proposed to rename "French fries" to "Freedom fries" to
try to obtain the support of Paris for the rebuilding of Iraq. In the
spring, the American Congress, furious at the opposition of France to a
military intervention in Iraq, chose to rename "French fries"
as "Freedom Fries" in the cafeteria and banquet rooms of the
Capitol. Texas Democratic representative Sheila Jackson Lee says
times have changed, and it would be desirable to cancel this highly
symbolic measure to attract the favours of France again. President George W
Bush now exhorts everyone to forget "the past squabbles'", says Sheila
Jackson Lee, in a letter which circulates in Capitol. "As a symbolic start ,
it would be good to rehabilitate the ' French fries' and 'French toast'".

My understanding is that in Europe, the creation of these "fries" is such an
embarassement that no country will take credit for them. In France, they are
called "Belgian Fries", in Belgium, they are called "Dutch Fries", etc.

So maybe this will backfire. Lionelle, do the French really want credit for
this food, which is responsible for so many heart attacks?

Bobo said:

Interesting, but I am afraid religion is more the cause of horror than
salvation.


Is that why Gregipus is a racist mother****er?

Bobo said:

Boy, are you stupid. Krooger posted his sex-with-children stories
himself. The only thing we don't know is if he's already guilty or
still in the planning stage. As for Dead Nate, boy are you stupid.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. Get a clue already.

Alright, alright already.
I'm not motivated to Google every claim or factoid.

And here I thought you were simply in denial. Pleading ignorance is
permissible for the excuse of "I don't know", but not for a rush to
judgment.


I've come around to your opinion that Krueger is crazy.

Attaboy.

But even if he is the source of the "Dead Nate" kick, everybody has a
different take on morality. I prefer not to kick somebody in the nuts, even
if they make the taunt.

The trouble is that only a few of us have made Dead Nate jokes of
any sort, yet Krooger accuses every one of his detractors of doing
it. In that tumultuous soup of irrationality that passes for Mr.
****'s consciousness, we're all acting in concert, so the stupid
**** randomly accuses M, N, and P of saying what X or Y actually
said.

As you've seen, I'm not beneath a kick in the head.

I'm with you on your attacks on Gregipus, although for different
reasons. I think dave has given him too much forebearance just
because he's taking a risk in the marketplace. Gregipus should be
locked away, and probably will be soon.

Bobo said:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) .... "As a symbolic start ,
it would be good to rehabilitate the ' French fries' and 'French toast'".

Yes, describe that dish accurately -- "stale bread dipped in eggs
and fried in lard".

George M. Middius wrote:



I'm with you on your attacks on Gregipus, although for different
reasons. I think dave has given him too much forebearance just
because he's taking a risk in the marketplace. Gregipus should be
locked away, and probably will be soon.



You condone Morion's Brian McCarty like behavior? I do think this is
the lowest you've ever sunk, George.

"trotsky" wrote in message
ink.net...
George M. Middius wrote:



I'm with you on your attacks on Gregipus, although for different
reasons. I think dave has given him too much forebearance just
because he's taking a risk in the marketplace. Gregipus should be
locked away, and probably will be soon.



You condone Morion's Brian McCarty like behavior? I do think this is
the lowest you've ever sunk, George.

On the contrary, George is taking a brave stand.

In role playing games, this would be considered suicidal to the persona.

"George M. Middius" wrote in message
...


Bobo said:

Interesting, but I am afraid religion is more the cause of horror than
salvation.


Is that why Gregipus is a racist mother****er?

Unfair strategy of argument.
You know I wouldn't contradict you.

"George M. Middius" wrote in message
...


Bobo said:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) .... "As a symbolic start ,
it would be good to rehabilitate the ' French fries' and 'French
toast'".

Yes, describe that dish accurately -- "stale bread dipped in eggs
and fried in lard".

It's the better of the two.
Fries = cis-trans with an audible angina alarm.

Bob Morein a écrit :
"Lionel" wrote in message
...

Bob Morein a écrit :

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
[snip]


Less funny because it badly smells "hard nationalism".
It would be better if our little "guéguerre" stay strictly around
personal habits, moral and manners.
The risk is to see the game wildly escape to racism and xenophobia.
From this point, and considering international context, I sincerely
find that the choice of the last hymn has been badly done.
I sincerely believe that it's nothing else but a mistake.

See you tomorrow,
Lionel


Lionel,
This is the hardest thing about this group. Your opponent will use

any

means to dig under your skin. For example, the allegations that Arny is

a

child molester, or references to his dead son, etc.
Because your attacker has no scruples, your only defense is to

ignore

him entirely.
Bob



Thank Bob for your kind advices.

I don't mind, I'm just a little bit desappointed. Up to now his efforts
to be funny required time and imagination and so, need to be
recompensed. Now he took the "easy way", the rank stupidity of
nationality and religion.

As you suggested me before I give you this phrase from André Malraux who
said by the early 60s :
"Le XXI siècle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas"
approx.translated : XXIst century will be religious or will not be.
Visionary, no ?


Interesting, but I am afraid religion is more the cause of horror than
salvation.


André Malraux wasn't religious, he was totaly agnostic.
He was French minister of the culture (Assouan in Egypt...).
He told this sentence in a famous speech at a date where the dialectic
was only communism and capitalism... And he saw that !

trotsky gets down to brass tacks. As much as he's capable of,
anyway.

I'm with you on your attacks on Gregipus, although for different
reasons. I think dave has given him too much forebearance just
because he's taking a risk in the marketplace. Gregipus should be
locked away, and probably will be soon.

You condone Morion's Brian McCarty like behavior? I do think this is
the lowest you've ever sunk, George.

What are you bitching about, mother****er? The whole group knows
Bwian is your first sockpuppet.

BTW, why are you the object of derision and ridicule in six or seven
Usenet groups? I can't believe RAO is unique in being blind to your
alleged genius. More likely, isn't it, that you're just a ****, and
everybody knows it?

Bob Morein a écrit :


So maybe this will backfire. Lionelle, do the French really want credit for
this food, which is responsible for so many heart attacks?



Oh sure I will not claim for that... because first patato come from
America. Parmentier brought it in is luggage.
So I let USA the responsability of all those deaths... ;-)
....Just like tobacco.

Bob Morein a écrit :

So maybe this will backfire. Lionelle, do the French really want credit for
this food, which is responsible for so many heart attacks?

Ooops I've missed this one : my first name is Lionel (like Hampton,
Jospin...) not Lionelle.
You made the error here above ;-p

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
Bob Morein a écrit :
"Lionel" wrote in message
...

Bob Morein a écrit :

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
[snip]


Less funny because it badly smells "hard nationalism".
It would be better if our little "guéguerre" stay strictly around
personal habits, moral and manners.
The risk is to see the game wildly escape to racism and xenophobia.
From this point, and considering international context, I sincerely
find that the choice of the last hymn has been badly done.
I sincerely believe that it's nothing else but a mistake.

See you tomorrow,
Lionel


Lionel,
This is the hardest thing about this group. Your opponent will use

any

means to dig under your skin. For example, the allegations that Arny is

a

child molester, or references to his dead son, etc.
Because your attacker has no scruples, your only defense is to

ignore

him entirely.
Bob



Thank Bob for your kind advices.

I don't mind, I'm just a little bit desappointed. Up to now his efforts
to be funny required time and imagination and so, need to be
recompensed. Now he took the "easy way", the rank stupidity of
nationality and religion.

As you suggested me before I give you this phrase from André Malraux who
said by the early 60s :
"Le XXI siècle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas"
approx.translated : XXIst century will be religious or will not be.
Visionary, no ?


Interesting, but I am afraid religion is more the cause of horror than
salvation.


André Malraux wasn't religious, he was totaly agnostic.
He was French minister of the culture (Assouan in Egypt...).
He told this sentence in a famous speech at a date where the dialectic
was only communism and capitalism... And he saw that !

So now it's been replaced with Islam vs. Christendom.
I fail to see the improvement.

George M. Middius wrote:


trotsky gets down to brass tacks. As much as he's capable of,
anyway.


I'm with you on your attacks on Gregipus, although for different
reasons. I think dave has given him too much forebearance just
because he's taking a risk in the marketplace. Gregipus should be
locked away, and probably will be soon.



You condone Morion's Brian McCarty like behavior? I do think this is
the lowest you've ever sunk, George.


What are you bitching about, mother****er? The whole group knows
Bwian is your first sockpuppet.

BTW, why are you the object of derision and ridicule in six or seven
Usenet groups? I can't believe RAO is unique in being blind to your
alleged genius. More likely, isn't it, that you're just a ****, and
everybody knows it?



By "everybody" you mean the eight e-mails that you've saved?

Bob Morein a écrit :
"Lionel" wrote in message
...

Bob Morein a écrit :

"Lionel" wrote in message
...


Bob Morein a écrit :


"Lionel" wrote in message
...
[snip]



Less funny because it badly smells "hard nationalism".
It would be better if our little "guéguerre" stay strictly around
personal habits, moral and manners.
The risk is to see the game wildly escape to racism and xenophobia.

From this point, and considering international context, I sincerely

find that the choice of the last hymn has been badly done.
I sincerely believe that it's nothing else but a mistake.

See you tomorrow,
Lionel


Lionel,
This is the hardest thing about this group. Your opponent will use

any


means to dig under your skin. For example, the allegations that Arny is

a


child molester, or references to his dead son, etc.
Because your attacker has no scruples, your only defense is to

ignore


him entirely.
Bob



Thank Bob for your kind advices.

I don't mind, I'm just a little bit desappointed. Up to now his efforts
to be funny required time and imagination and so, need to be
recompensed. Now he took the "easy way", the rank stupidity of
nationality and religion.

As you suggested me before I give you this phrase from André Malraux who
said by the early 60s :
"Le XXI siècle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas"
approx.translated : XXIst century will be religious or will not be.
Visionary, no ?


Interesting, but I am afraid religion is more the cause of horror than
salvation.



André Malraux wasn't religious, he was totaly agnostic.
He was French minister of the culture (Assouan in Egypt...).
He told this sentence in a famous speech at a date where the dialectic
was only communism and capitalism... And he saw that !


So now it's been replaced with Islam vs. Christendom.
I fail to see the improvement.


I think we don't understand together.
I try to explain :

- Malraux told this sentence in 1960 so I'm only interesting in the fact
that he "already" knew at this date that in 2003 the opposed forces will
be no more "politics" but "religious" !
- Do you know any possible improvement ? )

Sockpuppet Yustabe a écrit :
"Bob Morein" wrote in message
...

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
[snip]

Less funny because it badly smells "hard nationalism".
It would be better if our little "guéguerre" stay strictly around
personal habits, moral and manners.
The risk is to see the game wildly escape to racism and xenophobia.
From this point, and considering international context, I sincerely
find that the choice of the last hymn has been badly done.
I sincerely believe that it's nothing else but a mistake.

See you tomorrow,
Lionel


Lionel,
This is the hardest thing about this group. Your opponent will use any
means to dig under your skin. For example, the allegations that Arny is a
child molester, or references to his dead son, etc.
Because your attacker has no scruples, your only defense is to ignore
him entirely.
Bob




You left out the dig about one of the posters being a bitter 51 year
old unemployed loser still living with his parents.



Just a game we spend good time...
It's like a fishing party... In France we call that "un dîner de con".
With 3 or 4 friends you invite a guy a little bit stupid and naïve, you
give him an interesting subject for a long discussion (ie : politic,
religion....) like you put a nickel in a juke-box and let's go you start
to laugh for all the evening.
In order to be more funny you can add all the artifices of conversation,
quiproco, trap etc...

Poor Gregipus. All those drugs he ingested are finally taking their
toll on what's left of his mind.

BTW, why are you the object of derision and ridicule in six or seven
Usenet groups? I can't believe RAO is unique in being blind to your
alleged genius. More likely, isn't it, that you're just a ****, and
everybody knows it?

By "everybody" you mean the eight e-mails that you've saved?

I'll try to explain this v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y so even you can
understand.

First I observed that you're a pariah in six or seven Usenet groups.
I listed them in a post a couple of days ago, but what with your
rampant drug abuse, I suppose you might have forgotten all about it.

Then I opined that it's not RAO that has you figured wrong. This was
based on the implicit reference to your frequent and fatuous claims
of destroying people verbally and logically.

Finally, I concluded that *because* you are regarded as vile and
nasty by the participants in seven or eight newsgroups (that is, RAO
plus the others I listed earlier), *hence* the point of friction is
*you*.

Now as to your latest drug-induced question, "everybody" refers to
the hundreds of Usenetters in all these newsgroups where you are
regarded as shoe-wipe. Do you understand? If not, feel free to
finish off the packet.

George M. Middius wrote:


Poor Gregipus. All those drugs he ingested are finally taking their
toll on what's left of his mind.


BTW, why are you the object of derision and ridicule in six or seven
Usenet groups? I can't believe RAO is unique in being blind to your
alleged genius. More likely, isn't it, that you're just a ****, and
everybody knows it?



By "everybody" you mean the eight e-mails that you've saved?


I'll try to explain this v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y so even you can
understand.

First I observed that you're a pariah in six or seven Usenet groups.
I listed them in a post a couple of days ago, but what with your
rampant drug abuse, I suppose you might have forgotten all about it.

Then I opined that it's not RAO that has you figured wrong. This was
based on the implicit reference to your frequent and fatuous claims
of destroying people verbally and logically.

Finally, I concluded that *because* you are regarded as vile and
nasty by the participants in seven or eight newsgroups (that is, RAO
plus the others I listed earlier), *hence* the point of friction is
*you*.

Now as to your latest drug-induced question, "everybody" refers to
the hundreds of Usenetters in all these newsgroups where you are
regarded as shoe-wipe. Do you understand? If not, feel free to
finish off the packet.



George, if your wrist gets any limper your hand will fall off.


P.S. I'm wondering if any of the rao regulars saw the sketch with Chris
Kattan on SNL Saturday night, where he plays an obviously gay fellow
trying to kiss Jennifer Garner (what a chore that would be) and then
having a slap fight with her beau. For some reason George's post really
reminded me of this.

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
...

"Bob Morein" wrote in message
...

do the French really want credit for
this food, which is responsible for so many heart attacks?



What an idiot!!!

A combination of lots of unhealthy habits would do that.
French Fries would't cause any deaths at all, if
it were the sole vice. (Of course, unless someone choked on one.

You neglect the monotony of some diets. There are many Americans who line up
every lunchtime at MacDonalds for their supersized fries/cola/Mac.
And the "fry" is emblematic of all the crap Americans eat. Bad habits come
in bunches.

Bobo said to Lionella:

Now I understand. I am in agreement. He was very prescient.

.... for a Frog, you mean.

George M. Middius a écrit :

Bobo said to Lionella:


Now I understand. I am in agreement. He was very prescient.


... for a Frog, you mean.


Sorry Georgetta, it's late. You should return to play with Trotsky.

trotsky refuses to face the deficiency of his mental faculties.

Poor Gregipus. All those drugs he ingested are finally taking their
toll on what's left of his mind.


BTW, why are you the object of derision and ridicule in six or seven
Usenet groups? I can't believe RAO is unique in being blind to your
alleged genius. More likely, isn't it, that you're just a ****, and
everybody knows it?



By "everybody" you mean the eight e-mails that you've saved?


I'll try to explain this v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y so even you can
understand.

First I observed that you're a pariah in six or seven Usenet groups.
I listed them in a post a couple of days ago, but what with your
rampant drug abuse, I suppose you might have forgotten all about it.

Then I opined that it's not RAO that has you figured wrong. This was
based on the implicit reference to your frequent and fatuous claims
of destroying people verbally and logically.

Finally, I concluded that *because* you are regarded as vile and
nasty by the participants in seven or eight newsgroups (that is, RAO
plus the others I listed earlier), *hence* the point of friction is
*you*.

Now as to your latest drug-induced question, "everybody" refers to
the hundreds of Usenetters in all these newsgroups where you are
regarded as shoe-wipe. Do you understand? If not, feel free to
finish off the packet.

George, if your wrist gets any limper your hand will fall off.


Total meltdown, as expected. Score! Big score!

George 100
trotsky -5000

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:40:28 +0200, Lionel
wrote:

Bob Morein a écrit :


So maybe this will backfire. Lionelle, do the French really want credit for
this food, which is responsible for so many heart attacks?



Oh sure I will not claim for that... because first patato come from
America.

Well, sort of. South America.

Parmentier brought it in is luggage.

Wrong nationality. Try Spanish.

So I let USA the responsability of all those deaths... ;-)
...Just like tobacco.

Better blame the Aztecs.

Hope you have a nice potato pancake for breakfast...

PS, speaking of Parmentier, what would French cuisine be without
vichyssoise?

Oh sure I will not claim for that... because first patato come from
America.




Well, sort of. South America.



Peru to be exact.



So I let USA the responsability of all those deaths... ;-)
...Just like tobacco.




Better blame the Aztecs.



I think it would be the Incas.


PS, speaking of Parmentier, what would French cuisine be without
vichyssoise?


Speaking of French cuisine, what would it be without New Orleans?

On 16 Sep 2003 06:27:50 GMT, (S888Wheel) wrote:


Oh sure I will not claim for that... because first patato come from
America.




Well, sort of. South America.



Peru to be exact.



So I let USA the responsability of all those deaths... ;-)
...Just like tobacco.




Better blame the Aztecs.



I think it would be the Incas.

You're right. I always get them mixed up g.


PS, speaking of Parmentier, what would French cuisine be without
vichyssoise?


Speaking of French cuisine, what would it be without New Orleans?

dave weil a écrit :
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:40:28 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


Bob Morein a écrit :


So maybe this will backfire. Lionelle, do the French really want credit for
this food, which is responsible for so many heart attacks?




Oh sure I will not claim for that... because first patato come from
America.


Well, sort of. South America.


Parmentier brought it in is luggage.


Wrong nationality. Try Spanish.


So I let USA the responsability of all those deaths... ;-)
...Just like tobacco.


Better blame the Aztecs.

Hope you have a nice potato pancake for breakfast...

PS, speaking of Parmentier, what would French cuisine be without
vichyssoise?

Thank you Dave and S888.

In France we use to say that Americans don't know european, history,
geography... I guess that the problem come from here.
Anyway your theories are to much revisionist for me and I will keep my
national heros :

* Parmentier for the patato
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11506a.htm

* Nicot for the tobacco
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Nicot

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:56:33 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

dave weil a écrit :
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:40:28 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


Bob Morein a écrit :


So maybe this will backfire. Lionelle, do the French really want credit for
this food, which is responsible for so many heart attacks?




Oh sure I will not claim for that... because first patato come from
America.


Well, sort of. South America.


Parmentier brought it in is luggage.


Wrong nationality. Try Spanish.


So I let USA the responsability of all those deaths... ;-)
...Just like tobacco.


Better blame the Aztecs.

Hope you have a nice potato pancake for breakfast...

PS, speaking of Parmentier, what would French cuisine be without
vichyssoise?

Thank you Dave and S888.

In France we use to say that Americans don't know european, history,
geography... I guess that the problem come from here.
Anyway your theories are to much revisionist for me and I will keep my
national heros :

* Parmentier for the patato
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11506a.htm

Ummmm, yes. But he got the potato from the Spanish, who brought it
from Peru. So, the first potato came from Peru by the Spanish.

* Nicot for the tobacco
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Nicot

You forget Raleigh. Sir Walter.

Oh, you're talking about who brought this stuff to *France*. OK. Then
you know whose graves to defile. At least it's not Jim Morrison's.

Hell, you're fighting the wrong battles. You should be taking credit
for the automobile, right? Or is that something that you're ashamed
of? g

dave weil a écrit :

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:56:33 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:


dave weil a écrit :

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:40:28 +0200, Lionel
wrote:



Bob Morein a écrit :



So maybe this will backfire. Lionelle, do the French really want credit for
this food, which is responsible for so many heart attacks?




Oh sure I will not claim for that... because first patato come from
America.


Well, sort of. South America.



Parmentier brought it in is luggage.


Wrong nationality. Try Spanish.



So I let USA the responsability of all those deaths... ;-)
...Just like tobacco.


Better blame the Aztecs.

Hope you have a nice potato pancake for breakfast...

PS, speaking of Parmentier, what would French cuisine be without
vichyssoise?

Thank you Dave and S888.

In France we use to say that Americans don't know european, history,
geography... I guess that the problem come from here.
Anyway your theories are to much revisionist for me and I will keep my
national heros :

* Parmentier for the patato
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11506a.htm


Ummmm, yes. But he got the potato from the Spanish, who brought it
from Peru. So, the first potato came from Peru by the Spanish.


* Nicot for the tobacco
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Nicot


You forget Raleigh. Sir Walter.

Oh, you're talking about who brought this stuff to *France*. OK. Then
you know whose graves to defile. At least it's not Jim Morrison's.

Hell, you're fighting the wrong battles. You should be taking credit
for the automobile, right? Or is that something that you're ashamed
of? g


I never go to "Pére-Lachaise", I don't have any pleasure in deads' cult.

I don't fight anything...
.... in this era of hard nationalist behaviours I do like everybody, I
stud myself to few patriotic "certitudes". ;-)

"Lionel" lionel{dot}chapuis{at}free{dot}fr wrote in message
...
dave weil a écrit :

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:56:33 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:


dave weil a écrit :

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:40:28 +0200, Lionel
wrote:



Bob Morein a écrit :



So maybe this will backfire. Lionelle, do the French really want
credit for
this food, which is responsible for so many heart attacks?




Oh sure I will not claim for that... because first patato come from
America.


Well, sort of. South America.



Parmentier brought it in is luggage.


Wrong nationality. Try Spanish.



So I let USA the responsability of all those deaths... ;-)
...Just like tobacco.


Better blame the Aztecs.

Hope you have a nice potato pancake for breakfast...

PS, speaking of Parmentier, what would French cuisine be without
vichyssoise?

Thank you Dave and S888.

In France we use to say that Americans don't know european, history,
geography... I guess that the problem come from here.
Anyway your theories are to much revisionist for me and I will keep my
national heros :

* Parmentier for the patato
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11506a.htm


Ummmm, yes. But he got the potato from the Spanish, who brought it
from Peru. So, the first potato came from Peru by the Spanish.


* Nicot for the tobacco
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Nicot


You forget Raleigh. Sir Walter.

Oh, you're talking about who brought this stuff to *France*. OK. Then
you know whose graves to defile. At least it's not Jim Morrison's.

Hell, you're fighting the wrong battles. You should be taking credit
for the automobile, right? Or is that something that you're ashamed
of? g


I never go to "Pére-Lachaise", I don't have any pleasure in deads' cult.

I don't fight anything...
... in this era of hard nationalist behaviours I do like everybody, I
stud myself to few patriotic "certitudes". ;-)

Just to save you potential future embarassment, "stud" is English slang for
guy who gets a lot of sex. A "stud" horse is one which is kept to impregnate
mares.

Bob Morein a écrit :
"Lionel" lionel{dot}chapuis{at}free{dot}fr wrote in message
...

dave weil a écrit :


On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:56:33 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:



dave weil a écrit :


On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:40:28 +0200, Lionel
wrote:




Bob Morein a écrit :




So maybe this will backfire. Lionelle, do the French really want

credit for

this food, which is responsible for so many heart attacks?




Oh sure I will not claim for that... because first patato come from
America.


Well, sort of. South America.




Parmentier brought it in is luggage.


Wrong nationality. Try Spanish.




So I let USA the responsability of all those deaths... ;-)
...Just like tobacco.


Better blame the Aztecs.

Hope you have a nice potato pancake for breakfast...

PS, speaking of Parmentier, what would French cuisine be without
vichyssoise?

Thank you Dave and S888.

In France we use to say that Americans don't know european, history,
geography... I guess that the problem come from here.
Anyway your theories are to much revisionist for me and I will keep my
national heros :

* Parmentier for the patato
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11506a.htm


Ummmm, yes. But he got the potato from the Spanish, who brought it
from Peru. So, the first potato came from Peru by the Spanish.



* Nicot for the tobacco
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Nicot


You forget Raleigh. Sir Walter.

Oh, you're talking about who brought this stuff to *France*. OK. Then
you know whose graves to defile. At least it's not Jim Morrison's.

Hell, you're fighting the wrong battles. You should be taking credit
for the automobile, right? Or is that something that you're ashamed
of? g

I never go to "Pére-Lachaise", I don't have any pleasure in deads' cult.

I don't fight anything...
... in this era of hard nationalist behaviours I do like everybody, I
stud myself to few patriotic "certitudes". ;-)


Just to save you potential future embarassment, "stud" is English slang for
guy who gets a lot of sex. A "stud" horse is one which is kept to impregnate
mares.


Oh Lord, you save me. I cannot imagine what would happen with my pride
if "Le Lionellaise" would have find that first.

Lionel

"Lionel" lionel{dot}chapuis{at}free{dot}fr wrote in message
...
Bob Morein a écrit :
"Lionel" lionel{dot}chapuis{at}free{dot}fr wrote in message
...

dave weil a écrit :


On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:56:33 +0200, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:



dave weil a écrit :


On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:40:28 +0200, Lionel
wrote:




Bob Morein a écrit :




So maybe this will backfire. Lionelle, do the French really want

credit for

this food, which is responsible for so many heart attacks?




Oh sure I will not claim for that... because first patato come from
America.


Well, sort of. South America.




Parmentier brought it in is luggage.


Wrong nationality. Try Spanish.




So I let USA the responsability of all those deaths... ;-)
...Just like tobacco.


Better blame the Aztecs.

Hope you have a nice potato pancake for breakfast...

PS, speaking of Parmentier, what would French cuisine be without
vichyssoise?

Thank you Dave and S888.

In France we use to say that Americans don't know european, history,
geography... I guess that the problem come from here.
Anyway your theories are to much revisionist for me and I will keep my
national heros :

* Parmentier for the patato
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11506a.htm


Ummmm, yes. But he got the potato from the Spanish, who brought it
from Peru. So, the first potato came from Peru by the Spanish.



* Nicot for the tobacco
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Nicot


You forget Raleigh. Sir Walter.

Oh, you're talking about who brought this stuff to *France*. OK. Then
you know whose graves to defile. At least it's not Jim Morrison's.

Hell, you're fighting the wrong battles. You should be taking credit
for the automobile, right? Or is that something that you're ashamed
of? g

I never go to "Pére-Lachaise", I don't have any pleasure in deads' cult.

I don't fight anything...
... in this era of hard nationalist behaviours I do like everybody, I
stud myself to few patriotic "certitudes". ;-)


Just to save you potential future embarassment, "stud" is English slang
for
guy who gets a lot of sex. A "stud" horse is one which is kept to
impregnate
mares.


Oh Lord, you save me. I cannot imagine what would happen with my pride
if "Le Lionellaise" would have find that first.

Lionel

Just for laughs, a word-for-word translation:
"in this area of hard (erect?) nationalistic behaviours I do like everybody,
I am a gigolo (male prostitute) to a few patriotic "certitudes". ;-)."